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http://droidheaven.com/2009/12/12/g1-and-mytouch-3g-to-get-2-5-update-in-january/
just when i thought my g1 was getting out dated and they where going to stop giving us updates.
Even though our Devs are hard at work to get 2.0 and 2.1 working, and for the most part they are very quick and reliable but dont have a working camera unless htc gives us camera drivers we are screwed. but i came across this today and i now have hope. i was going to buy a nexus next month but now that its confirmed that we are getting a 2.5 OTA update i see no need in upgrading just wait until Cyanogen Drizzy or JAC (where are you MLIGN???)get a hold of this one
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is this for real?
I don't want to sound like a sceptic, but this sounds scetchy.
let me get this straight....
their new $500 phone is only gonna have 2.1 but the 'outdated' G1 will get 2.5....
....not a hope in hell of them doing that
i will eat my hat if we have 2.5 on the G1 before january is out....
hopefully my hat will taste good...id love this to be true....but its unlikely
Well.......
According to Eugene373 they have the camera drivers, but will not release them just yet...
Only a matter of time!
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let me get this straight....
their new $500 phone is only gonna have 2.1 but the 'outdated' G1 will get 2.5....
....not a hope in hell of them doing that
i will eat my hat if we have 2.5 on the G1 before january is out....
hopefully my hat will taste good...id love this to be true....but its unlikely
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If you have the new flavored hats, you might go back for seconds. I'm sure the G1's "2.5" will be 2.0 with flash if it even comes out.
Bit offtopic but isn't flash just an application, technically a browser addon?
It wouldn't need to be in a rom, just on the android market as "Flash" or included in an update to the browser application.
If you piece all the rumors and truly confirmed info from those that get the leaks, the G1 is getting an update sometime in January/February to 2.0/2.1/2.5... something with a 2 at the front. Wow! Such shocking news "confirmed" by an un-named "source" on a site that has also "confirmed" in the past we would be getting 2.0 then 2.1 and now 2.5.
I made a Post with the exact same topic so a mod please lock it/delete it.
The g1/mytouch is not getting android 2.5 it is getting 2.0/2.0.1
They got the mytouch version working but the damn unrooted g1 just doesn't have the space for it so we have to wait so they can slim it down.
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http://droidheaven.com/2009/12/12/g1-and-mytouch-3g-to-get-2-5-update-in-january/
just when i thought my g1 was getting out dated and they where going to stop giving us updates.
Even though our Devs are hard at work to get 2.0 and 2.1 working, and for the most part they are very quick and reliable but dont have a working camera unless htc gives us camera drivers we are screwed. but i came across this today and i now have hope. i was going to buy a nexus next month but now that its confirmed that we are getting a 2.5 OTA update i see no need in upgrading just wait until Cyanogen Drizzy or JAC (where are you MLIGN???)get a hold of this one
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sounds like the cupcake rumor mill all over again...
I dont trust this one bit
2.5? What is that exactly?
Honestly, it's getting annoying to see specific releases of Android for specific phones (e.g., 2.0 for Droid, 2.1 for N1). It's almost like after 1.6, the releases started to become phone specific rather than generic.
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If you have the new flavored hats, you might go back for seconds. I'm sure the G1's "2.5" will be 2.0 with flash if it even comes out.
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Hopefully its Android 2.1 with Flash but ughh damn it I don't wanna wait! My hat is strawberry!
I am a Rep for T-mobile i would like to know where he got the info on that. thats the first i have heard of anything like that.
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I am a Rep for T-mobile i would like to know where he got the info on that. thats the first i have heard of anything like that.
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So you guys will have a update for Mytouch 3G though?
Or will it get discontinued along with G1?
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I am a Rep for T-mobile i would like to know where he got the info on that. thats the first i have heard of anything like that.
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And congratulations for violating streamline policy. Better hope your coach/senior doesnt see you tossing that around. I watched LOTS of people get fired for doing that back when I was a TMO FCR.
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I am a Rep for T-mobile i would like to know where he got the info on that. thats the first i have heard of anything like that.
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And you won't be the first to hear of it either. I promise you, as hard as it is to believe, that HTC and TMO upper management are the first to know. Next up are leaks from devs for HTC to media. Then official confirmation from TMO to the media. Then, about a week after that, if not longer, reps are informed. Don't say otherwise, since some of us work in the business as well, likely for much longer, and have seen how this works.
Reps are always left in the dark until the very end. It is stupid, since reps deal with the public face to face and can make a selling point out of a bunch of the stuff that is kept in the dark, but it is the way it is.
2.5?!?! HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHHA!!! You gotta love rumors. The update coming out in January, if any update at all, will more then likely be 2.0 with or without flash. If it's that easy for people to post rumors regarding android, why doesn't someone post something regarding android 17.1 (wedding cake). It's the merge of iPhone & Android!!!! ROTF!
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And you won't be the first to hear of it either. I promise you, as hard as it is to believe, that HTC and TMO upper management are the first to know. Next up are leaks from devs for HTC to media. Then official confirmation from TMO to the media. Then, about a week after that, if not longer, reps are informed. Don't say otherwise, since some of us work in the business as well, likely for much longer, and have seen how this works.
Reps are always left in the dark until the very end. It is stupid, since reps deal with the public face to face and can make a selling point out of a bunch of the stuff that is kept in the dark, but it is the way it is.
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I agree 100%!!! I work for a cable provider, who will remain nameless, and we (reps) are always the last to know about anything. You have no idea how many times a customer called and informed me of a new process/website/service. It amazes me. The front-line associates are ALWAYS the last to know!
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I agree 100%!!! I work for a cable provider, who will remain nameless, and we (reps) are always the last to know about anything. You have no idea how many times a customer called and informed me of a new process/website/service. It amazes me. The front-line associates are ALWAYS the last to know!
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Yeah, I work for a cell phone provider, and we get a launch email about a week before the phone launches. I usually know sooner because I am one of the testers for smart phones, but I don't even get all of them, and if I am not testing it I don't know anything until that email... plus, even as a tester, I only get about a 4 week heads up, which is about 2-3 months behind the management picking our phones.
Worst of all, when we do new promos/plans we get our launch info the day before and thus have about 18 hours to read and figure out the new promos, come up with a selling strategy and figure out what sort of customer it is right for.
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Did you read the comments? "I just talked to a t-mobile rep. he said he never heard of the update and there is no documents.
But he did tell me that there is an update coming and it is coming quickly"
I'm posting this up here so everyone can see it and doesn't have to go through threads to see it.
If this 2.1 update is legit, there is a way to grab the OTA update. \
Essentially what you will need to do is decline the update when your phone asks you about it.
Run this command on your computer with the SDK installed and adb set up:
Code:
adb -d logcat UpdateReceiver:I CheckinService:I *:S
Post the link that is returned.
As a note - I'll throw this in my signature for now as well.
2.1 will be difficult if not impossible to downgrade from. If you upgrade, and we find root on 1.5, you are out of luck if the exploit has been patched. I think we *should* be able to downgrade the phone, but I also think that it *will* require some technical skills. If you lack these skills, realize you *WILL NOT* get root if we find an exploit that has been patched in 2.1 but not in 1.5.
Simply put: I have every intention of upgrading my phone when this update hits it. But, I also have every intention of finding a way to downgrade it afterwards and keep working on root with 1.5. Then, I'll post a walkthrough for downgrading. More than likely it will involve a goldcard (which sucks to make kind of).
Enjoy, and thanks! Post that link if you get an OTA alert!
so this will give us the 2.1 update? question is, will it have the upgraded sense ui? i read on another post not from this site that eris users who upgraded to 2.1 through a mishap with verizon had their phone completely useless.
if your phone has the option to update, that command will print out a URL of where the OTA update file is located. It should be something like clients.android.google.com/updates/desirec/desirec-ota.(6random numbers).(8 random hex).zip. That will allow the rest of us to get the update before its pushed to our devices.
I have an extra eris, so messege me if you need to try something out. I have Ubuntu installed already.
I'll get that thing up here IF it actually pops. Has VZW been able to clear up if 2.1 is indeed a myth or truth?
My phone just randomly reset. I'm calling VZW as we speak. I'll see what is going on while I'm on the phone with them.
My phone just randomly reset as well. But no update
Verizon just let me know that the current version installed on our phones is 1.17.605.1. I'm being transferred to tech support to fix a network connnection problem I've been having, but after that I'll make sure to ask about the 2.1 update.
Thanks!
zifnab06 said:
Verizon just let me know that the current version installed on our phones is 1.17.605.1. I'm being transferred to tech support to fix a network connnection problem I've been having, but after that I'll make sure to ask about the 2.1 update.
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Yeah i was having network issues yesturday actually. i did a hard reset twice. the internet was working but i couldnt make phone calls or send texts. called verizon as soon as i got home, and they told me there was an issue with the services. had me do some weird stuff but i didnt write it down =/
2.1 from Verizon:
So, from the mouth of the dragon, verizon told me that "I know the update is coming *soon*, but no official date has been set yet". The Tech Support rep told me that most of the posts I've probably seen online have been fake (sorry, but I actually believe most of them, I want the leaked copy if there is one, or the OTA if it does come out). So, simply put, I'd assume you WILL NOT be getting an OTA in the next few days. But, soon for verizon is better than "soon" for Blizzard (Blizzard's definition of soon is sometime between now and the end of the universe, preferably closer to the now side).
Thanks!
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2.1 from Verizon:
So, from the mouth of the dragon, verizon told me that "I know the update is coming *soon*, but no official date has been set yet". The Tech Support rep told me that most of the posts I've probably seen online have been fake (sorry, but I actually believe most of them, I want the leaked copy if there is one, or the OTA if it does come out). So, simply put, I'd assume you WILL NOT be getting an OTA in the next few days. But, soon for verizon is better than "soon" for Blizzard (Blizzard's definition of soon is sometime between now and the end of the universe, preferably closer to the now side).
Thanks!
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if we were relying on blizzard we wouldnt get 2.1 till 2020
I'm just glad we are getting it!
And at least we know its coming between now and the end of march.
Framework43 said:
I'm just glad we are getting it!
And at least we know its coming between now and the end of march.
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My prediction is you guys will get 2.1 on January 1st, 2012... Which sucks, because that's precisely the time when the world is going to end. So you guys are kind of SOL if i'm right.
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PS... Framework43 McDonalds might sue you over your sig. If they do, just say you got fat by eating too many happy meals, and you should be okay.
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My prediction is you guys will get 2.1 on January 1st, 2012... Which sucks, because that's precisely the time when the world is going to end. So you guys are kind of SOL if i'm right.
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PS... Framework43 McDonalds might sue you over your sig. If they do, just say you got fat by eating too many happy meals, and you should be okay.
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LMAO. To bad they would probably ask for a picture. That shouldn't be so hard with all the fat internet pictures
Nah, I think we will get our update soon.
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My prediction is you guys will get 2.1 on January 1st, 2012... Which sucks, because that's precisely the time when the world is going to end. So you guys are kind of SOL if i'm right.
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PS... Framework43 McDonalds might sue you over your sig. If they do, just say you got fat by eating too many happy meals, and you should be okay.
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December 20th 2012. Just to point out (12-20-20-12)
I got to see an Eris running 2.1 with Sense and some of its neat new enhancements. I also got to see why it's not released yet. Some of the defects aren't too nice. If you manage to get a copy of the update, I would not use it on a device you use actively.
Wait until release. There's a reason it's not being pushed, yet. I can get it now, if I wanted, but it even scares me The person who showed me his device is a developer.
I have no release date. As far as I know, there isn't one, yet. Just "any day now."
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December 20th 2012. Just to point out (12-20-20-12)
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Lol my bad, so you guys might not be hosed afterall!!!!!
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I got to see an Eris running 2.1 with Sense and some of its neat new enhancements. I also got to see why it's not released yet. Some of the defects aren't too nice. If you manage to get a copy of the update, I would not use it on a device you use actively.
Wait until release. There's a reason it's not being pushed, yet. I can get it now, if I wanted, but it even scares me The person who showed me his device is a developer.
I have no release date. As far as I know, there isn't one, yet. Just "any day now."
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Get it! You could give it to the dev team and they could tell if people on 2.1 could root! Plus... somebody (me) might not care (me) if it is somewhat unstable (me). LOL
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if your phone has the option to update, that command will print out a URL of where the OTA update file is located. It should be something like clients.android.google.com/updates/desirec/desirec-ota.(6random numbers).(8 random hex).zip. That will allow the rest of us to get the update before its pushed to our devices.
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Could you just go to the parent directory in a web browser to see all of the files in the folder? I guess I will try it.
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December 20th 2012. Just to point out (12-20-20-12)
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You are wrong also. It's December 21, 2012. There is no relation to the Gregorian calendar date that determines it.
Since the 2.1 Leak thread is no longer sticky.....
Can we get a sticky 'status thread' for those of us stuck with the 2.1 leak so we know what is, if anything, going on or whether the devs have abandoned us?
I'd much prefer not to go haggle with the verizon wireless store, but I will if I have to. As it stands, the lack of information on this topic leaves me not sure what to do. A little input is all I ask.
I agree. Some sort of status would be nice.
there wont be any updates on the status. it will be a new thread that will all of a sudden come out and say "we have root / downgrade / whatever for those on 2.1 leak" instead of a posting in an existing thread.
so let me repeat that THERE IS NO ROOT FOR 2.1 LEAK YET.
any updates will be posted in a new thread!
you will find out when it has happened....it will be one the of the top threads.
I appreciate the response.
Can you at least tell me if someone is in fact working on it or is it just something that a dev 'may' stumble on at some point?
2.1 leak
I was just on the IRC chat yesterday and they were working on this very thing. Finding a rooted ROM was a little serendipitous and that may leave some of the 2.1 leakers feeling a little left out. Though I do not speak for any of the devs I do know that they plan on addressing this issue espcially because 2.1 official update will be out...eventually. This means that their current method of obtaining root would be obsolete. If you have another method of downgrading your phone then I would suggest using it if you are impatient like me.
So you should learn to do this thing called search.... there was a post about this very subject a day or two ago.
We, the devs, are currently working on some methods for downgrading 2.1 leaked to either 1.5 or the rooted 2.1.
We don't want a new thread about it because we are at this point just poking and prodding around on the phones hoping to find something. Most ideas we have are tried within an hour and don't work, so no need to constantly post about them.
Just please rest assured that on the irc server we are working hard to get 2.1 leak rooted or downgraded. Right now there are still a couple of us devs with the 2.1 leak so it is in our interest to get this thing worked out.
I didn't particularly want a new thread about this to keep track of either. That's why a stickied thread, maybe even locked until someone has an update, was a good idea I thought. One place, top of the list, that all us 2.1 leak users can subscribe too and know when progress is made.
What was so wrong about wanting that instead of watching the board every day, waiting for news, skimming all the titles, or searching each week to see if anything has change?
Gotta agree..
Even if it's just a place to vent, I think us early adopters of the leak deserve a place to huddle up and wonder out loud whether anyone is working on the issue or if we're just stuck..
Nobody has claimed yet to have been force at gunpoint to upgrade. We're here by our own volition..
I will agree with jcase from another thread that we can't whine much unless we're willing to help out, though.. irc.wastate.net was it?
Personally, I don't think its very beneficial for anyone to have a thread where its nothing but "ranting". There are better things to spend time looking at and/or talking about.
Rest assured that when/if a way to downgrade arises, you'll know within hours just like the root, just like the leak.
Not sure why this hasn't been done yet but I just politely explained to Verizon that my phone was pushed with the 2.1 update and that it breaks Facebook contact sync and kills the battery life and I'd to downgrade, wait for them to call HTC and say that's not possible and ask for an exchange. Done.
That actually works?
Not sure why this hasn't been done yet but I just politely explained to Verizon that my phone was pushed with the 2.1 update and that it breaks Facebook contact sync and kills the battery life and I'd to downgrade, wait for them to call HTC and say that's not possible and ask for an exchange. Done.
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let me know if it worked for you
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Not sure why this hasn't been done yet but I just politely explained to Verizon that my phone was pushed with the 2.1 update and that it breaks Facebook contact sync and kills the battery life and I'd to downgrade, wait for them to call HTC and say that's not possible and ask for an exchange. Done.
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Worked for me, cept I called 611 vs going into the store...
i just called Verizon and it worked for me they asked me for firmware version i told them 2.1 they also asked me for kernel version and software number she told its up to date i told them what issues i had getting my new phone tomorrow
All us dev's have given up and bought the n1, switching to tmobile. Everyone of us, no more working on the leaked 2.1 phones we have.
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All us dev's have given up and bought the n1, switching to tmobile. Everyone of us, no more working on the leaked 2.1 phones we have.
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LOL, good job!
AnomynousPierson said:
I appreciate the response.
Can you at least tell me if someone is in fact working on it or is it just something that a dev 'may' stumble on at some point?
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drop by the IRC chat and you can get real time updates....though they don't want to always be asked about it , if you are there you can see all of them discussing it...trust me they are trying as alot of them have 2.1leak....
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All us dev's have given up and bought the n1, switching to tmobile. Everyone of us, no more working on the leaked 2.1 phones we have.
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...trust me they are trying as alot of them have 2.1leak
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This seems to be a bit contradictory. :/
EDIT: I'm thinking jcase might have been trying to use sarcasm in a forum, which isn't very detectable.
well when i went into the store yesterday the tech told me that 2.1 was up to date and the 2.1 official was pushed out by htc about a week or two ago? huh? makes you wonder what they are smokin! ill just go to another store and just be mean to em about it and tell em that 2.1 is not out and i demand a new phone...
The whole Mytouch line getting Froyo Pretty soon T-mobile legit news.
I wandering how soon is soon lol they keep saying soon.
Check out the link even has a pamphlet.
http://mobile.engadget.com/2010/06/10/android-2-2-coming-to-the-full-mytouch-3g-range/
Bunch of **** teases thats all they are
"A modified version of the Faves Gallery"......oh joy, now everyone can 'enjoy' that stellar feature!
well, I have heard that it would have Froyo before launch date, that didn't happen. I heard it would be this week (with one day left is possible but not probable). I just saw in another post it would be next week (don't hold your breath). Some reports say by the end of the year. I am inclined to believe it will happen but we will not know when until we get it all of a sudden. Just my thoughts.
from our friend chief:
ChiefzReloaded
T-Mobile training was today in store for managers... froyo for mt3g and slide will start rolling out next week.... just fyi
hopefully with an updated sms app, So the normal mytouch is going to get all the sense crap too?
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hopefully with an updated sms app, So the normal mytouch is going to get all the sense crap too?
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Froyo is the Android base, not necessarily the UI
"...no phone left behind"
My cliq just rolled over in its grave is gave tmo the finger.
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"...no phone left behind"
My cliq just rolled over in its grave is gave tmo the finger.
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"No phone left behind no matter how long we make the Cliq guys wait! Oh... and let's just brush the Behold under the carpet and hope nobody notices that one."
This is likely what the big June 19th event was all about.
They say that is a Father's Day special on tmonews.com. Free phone with a family plan or something. I hope its really a froyo update. Either way if we get root soon... we can update now. well, when its ported. and with sense ui, that will be no easy task. Of course, they could port the desire rom.
I wonder how they could roll out FroYo for us next week when the Nexus doesn't even have it's OTA yet?
Unless Google is purposely waiting to do the OTA on the Nexus at the same time as the MyTouch line? Trying to even the playing field a bit?
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I wonder how they could roll out FroYo for us next week when the Nexus doesn't even have it's OTA yet?
Unless Google is purposely waiting to do the OTA on the Nexus at the same time as the MyTouch line? Trying to even the playing field a bit?
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Google has to mod the 2.2 AOSP code just like everyone else does for their devices. All the OHA members are privy to the latest code equally.
The reason the nexus got an update so far ahead last time appears to be that other other companies didn't appear to care about updating the phones. Now that they have google pushing updates so quickly to their own phone, they are making other phones look lame by having to wait so long for updates.
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Google has to mod the 2.2 AOSP code just like everyone else does for their devices. All the OHA members are privy to the latest code equally.
The reason the nexus got an update so far ahead last time appears to be that other other companies didn't appear to care about updating the phones. Now that they have google pushing updates so quickly to their own phone, they are making other phones look lame by having to wait so long for updates.
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Interesting theory. I guess there could be several theories behind it as well. I'll play devil's advocate here and say that maybe now, Google has decided not to update the Nexus as quickly either to allow the other devices to catch up, or because they simply don't care anymore (since they aren't selling it directly anymore).
Thoughts?
why would t-mobile open at 8am for an android update?.........
All I have to say is, froyo is going to rock on this slide.
as long as the bloatware they put in the slide will be gone... hate all the crap... >.< want root so i can get rid of the stupid programs that are useless!
Yeah apps2sd and tether will be nice for an unrooted phone. I think it is a little odd that the tmo stuff cannot be removed seeing as this phone is supposed to be "100% you" ...
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Yeah apps2sd and tether will be nice for an unrooted phone. I think it is a little odd that the tmo stuff cannot be removed seeing as this phone is supposed to be "100% you" ...
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Hahahha! Exactly what I was thinking... yeah, It should have been removable. I got about 20MB by using factory data reset. All it did was erase some wallpapers and other minor, useless crap. I cant wait until the devs root this baby. Ive got like 20mb left on internal storage. sucks...
I would bet we dont see froyo unitl late summer or fall. HTC has to update sense ui for froyo, plus then the wait on tmobile. I would guess that the MT3G will get a froyo ota before we do.
Oh God... I just had a SCARY thought! What if tmobile doesnt include A2SD on their version of 2.2?! They sure did screw us on the live wallpapers for 2.1 on the MTS. Maybe that was just because of the sense ui. I mean it does animate the weather as a live wallpaper, sort of...
I just saw on android central that the Eris will be getting an update on July 16th. I just rooted not to long ago and I love it. Just wanted to know if it is possible for me to still get the OTA update now that I have rooted?
remember how there was a few people
who got that update a bout 2 weeks ago?
thats what this is. just the rest of them
are getting it.
once someone who gets it can pull the
url, then the devs will be able to put
it into their roms.
Ivans 1.2?
Ok, Thanks!!!
Is this just an update fixing all the garbage problems with the 2.1 OTA? Took 'em long enough. Good thing I rooted the day I got the OTA because it was terrible.
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Is this just an update fixing all the garbage problems with the 2.1 OTA? Took 'em long enough. Good thing I rooted the day I got the OTA because it was terrible.
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can we use this to get root for the leakers ?
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can we use this to get root for the leakers ?
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for some odd reason I doubt it
Believe it (an OTA update) when you (or others) see it.
Hopefully I will have my new phone by the time this comes out. I simply had crazy issues with the Eris and am going to get a different phone.
I am going to assume that it will be the end of the month before everyone gets the OTA.
It'll probably a rolling update across the country since the last big update ordeal crashed a few servers. If you jump on Verizon's site after the rolling update is done you should be bale to update by downloading that way. One of the reasons the was also such a wait for the 2.1 update was there was a big jump from 1.5 to 2.1.
It'll be interesting to see what all happens with the update, and rooted phones.