Flashing 2.1 on to HTC Hero on Orange in UK - Hero CDMA General

Hi guys,
I am new to xda, so bare with me if I am repeating stuff that has already been asked. I have a HTC hero over here in the UK with Orange, and was wandering if the cracked versions of Android 2.1 such as Fresh ROM by Flipzmode will work on my HTC Hero? I.e - will everything still work on the network like calls, 3G and all that sort of stuff.
If so, could someone also give me/link me to some detailed instructions on how to flash the ROM onto my Hero. I am quite computer proficient but do not wana mess up my phone by doing something wrong.
Thanks guys
Ben

http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=508
You're in the wrong forum here, CDMA only (very different phone, only the name is the same). You cannot use anything by flipz, but I'm sure you all over the pond have a dev that comes close.
-cheers

I could be wrong, but I don't think it will flash on to a GSM hero.
Problem being the difference in radio I believe.

Go for it. Let us know how it turns out for you...

VinceOB said:
Go for it. Let us know how it turns out for you...
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wow.......

Kcarpenter said:
wow.......
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I know right....

VinceOB said:
I know right....
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I mean that could be deadly...at least to the hero.

Kcarpenter said:
I mean that could be deadly...at least to the hero.
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It would be funny too.

VinceOB said:
It would be funny too.
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Just thinking out loud...or in text...what ever.
Would a CDMA radio brick a GSM phone? I mean GSM Radios run at a higher voltage than our CDMA radios do, and thats what causes the actual issue.
Now I would also think if he loaded flipz rom he would be fine(maybe not boot, but still fixable) because it doesn't touch the radio....unless he loads a flipz radio....then see the first thought.
Oh look at that .... shiny *chases*

VinceOB said:
It would be funny too.
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No it would be obnoxious. The guy asked a personally legitimate question in the proper forum. And you responded by telling him to do something knowing it could brick his phone. Or at the very least prevent it from booting. Pretty rude.

smw6180 said:
No it would be obnoxious. The guy asked a personally legitimate question in the proper forum. And you responded by telling him to do something knowing it could brick his phone. Or at the very least prevent it from booting. Pretty rude.
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So. Who made you the obnoxious rude people police? By the way, he's NOT in the right forum.

VinceOB said:
So. Who made you the obnoxious rude people police? By the way, he's NOT in the right forum.
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He was asking a question about the HERO...it's not necessarily his fault he didn't realize he was talking about a GSM device. So he went to the spot where he saw 'hero' in the thread and asked.
I'm not the 'obnixious rude people police'...but at least I have the good sense not to tell someone to do something that's obviously harmful to their device. If you want to kick someone in the nards via forum text, feel free as far as I'm concerned. But don't advise noobs in how to bust their phone. That's beyond rude.

smw6180 said:
He was asking a question about the HERO...it's not necessarily his fault he didn't realize he was talking about a GSM device. So he went to the spot where he saw 'hero' in the thread and asked.
I'm not the 'obnixious rude people police'...but at least I have the good sense not to tell someone to do something that's obviously harmful to their device. If you want to kick someone in the nards via forum text, feel free as far as I'm concerned. But don't advise noobs in how to bust their phone. That's beyond rude.
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I kinda have to agree.. The point of these forums is to share information and help others. If you don't want to share or be helpful fine, but it's pretty nasty to knowingly tell someone to do something that could possibly damage their phone. I realize there was some sarcasm in the post, but someone new to all this might not get it. Not to mention there are plenty of people that have no idea what GSM, CDMA, or iDen are.

wonbattlelost said:
i agree whole heartily, but lets just drop it no reason for the drama; the OP got his [correct] info so lets just leave it be
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*Facepalm* pacifist.

Related

OK so.. what exactly can I do with my G1?

I rooted it a while back and updated to Cupcake (1.5), basically so I could tether it to my laptop, and have used it for that since but..
Now I come back, browse the forum and people are talking about new FWs and ROMs, and I want in on it.
I would especially like to be able to store apps on my SD card aswell if anyone can help there.
And could someone post maybe a quick breakdown of any new stuff you can do with a rooted phone that I may not know about.
Thanks a bunch.
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I rooted it a while back and updated to Cupcake (1.5), basically so I could tether it to my laptop, and have used it for that since but..
Now I come back, browse the forum and people are talking about new FWs and ROMs, and I want in on it.
I would especially like to be able to store apps on my SD card aswell if anyone can help there.
And could someone post maybe a quick breakdown of any new stuff you can do with a rooted phone that I may not know about.
Thanks a bunch.
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OK so basically search these forums for anything you want like "apps2sd" or go to the dream android development section to check out all the latest roms. Looking at all the different threads by yourself will be way more informative then me trying to explain it to you. Have fun .
P.S. Check out the new cyan rom that just came out
Lucky for you I was in your position recently, I saved all the useful links for easier access in the future.
This link is probably the most helpful and will bring you up to speed and have you prepared for pretty much everything thats out now.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=533731
I would start with cyan's recovery image first, run down the list till you are on he latest SPL and Radio (Might wanna do a little research before on this, Good brick potential if done wrong). Then I would stop at the part about JacHero, If you want to test that rom. Go ahead, Hero is great but runs slower.
I prefer CyanogenMod. Here's the link to that.
Stable: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=537204
"Experimental": http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=539744
I quoted that cause it's always ran stable for me. Last thing about apps to sd, If you partition your sdcard and set it up like the tutorial, Cyan's rom will set up apps2sd automatically.
I'd say thats a pretty good start, good luck and welcome back.
You can make phone calls and text.
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You can make phone calls and text.
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I can tell your just as bored as I am lol
DirectMatrix said:
I can tell your just as bored as I am lol
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Oh yes. I'm at work, and have nothing better to do. I think the Army pays me to surf XDA. LOL.
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Oh yes. I'm at work, and have nothing better to do. I think the Army pays me to surf XDA. LOL.
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Good to see there is someone else wasting the taxpayer's money other than me LOL
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Good to see there is someone else wasting the taxpayer's money other than me LOL
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LOL, o yes. I work maybe 1 hour and bs for 7, and if I get to bored then I'll just leave early and still get paid. Wow after reading this, I guess I got it made.
The rooting process is still the same and you flash all these new roms like you would a JF build. the process is pretty much the same juat the stuff is sooo mucb cooler: )
I learned something new you can do with your G1. You know that little glass hole on the back of your G1?? Its not a peep hole to look at the inner workings of your phone as I originally thought. That is actually a camera you could take pictures/videos with...
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^^ That's me trying to peek into my phone before I figured out it was actually a camera. Say Cheeze!
Just found this app called "browser" anyone heard of this. I heard it connects to this thing called the world wide web or something like that. This technology is way over my head.
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Just found this app called "browser" anyone heard of this. I heard it connects to this thing called the world wide web or something like that. This technology is way over my head.
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Someone's gonna find the OP swinging from the ceiling at his house tomorrow with a note attached that says:
I killed myself because I got flamed too much over at XDA
Love,
OP
Your too much lol
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Someone's gonna find the OP swinging from the ceiling at his house tomorrow with a note attached that says:
I killed myself because I got flamed too much over at XDA
Love,
OP
Your too much lol
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LOL. I wonder what app he would use to do that.
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LOL. I wonder what app he would use to do that.
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http://tinyurl.com/mu3clb
TikiiTorch said:
http://tinyurl.com/mu3clb[/QU
lmao.........
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TikiiTorch said:
http://tinyurl.com/mu3clb
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LOL,LOL.
supremeteam256 said:
You can make phone calls and text.
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I think this requires something called "friends". I assume you can download them from the internet somewhere though.
AdamPI said:
I think this requires something called "friends". I assume you can download them from the internet somewhere though.
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LOL. I love these kind of threads. Makes my day go by a lil faster.
AdamPI said:
I think this requires something called "friends". I assume you can download them from the internet somewhere though.
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MSN contacts count, right?
And thanks Introspektive, appreciated.
Now then.. what is this world wide webz?
Keith. said:
MSN contacts count, right?
And thanks Introspektive, appreciated.
Now then.. what is this world wide webz?
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I'm trying to google it right now, tried wikipedia but the dam thing is so confusing. LOL.
Thanks Keith for having a good attitude, some people would get pissed at the jokes we make, but it's all out of fun.

The Official 2.1 Rumors Thread

THIS is the thread where you can post all your 2.1 rumors in. Rather than cluttering up our tiny sub-forum, just post it HERE. At this point, Sprint should just open up DamageControl, remove DC specifics and SU, and send that out OTA. Can a mod please sticky this?
//RUMORS LIST//
4/16/10
4/24/10
4/26/10
All other rumors have been proven
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THIS is the thread where you can post all your 2.1 rumors in. Rather than cluttering up our tiny sub-forum, just post it HERE. At this point, Sprint should just open up DamageControl, remove DC specifics and SU, and send that out OTA. Can a mod please sticky this?
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This SO isn't getting stickied, but nice try.
BTW *I* heard that 2.1 will be released tonight! That's right! TONIGHT an OTA is coming for 2.1. But it will be silent, and you won't be able to tell that's it's been done.
In fact after the 2.1 update your phone will look JUST LIKE IT'S a 1.56 stock rom! Pretty sweet coding, if you ask me.

			
				
R U Freak'in Serious
Stop already with the G$%^&* D(*&^ 2.1 threads.
Thanks,
Bubba.
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R U Freak'in Serious
Stop already with the G$%^&* D(*&^ 2.1 threads.
Thanks,
Bubba.
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I'm trying to get everyone to post the rumors here instead of making a new thread. Of course that isn't going to happen though.
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R U Freak'in Serious
Stop already with the G$%^&* D(*&^ 2.1 threads.
Thanks,
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There there. They make prozac for a reason. Try some.
4/26/10 heard it here first
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There there. They make prozac for a reason. Try some.
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Prozac my A$$.
We need MODs/Admins to get a grip on these BS threads everyone posts BEFORE looking around or using the S E A R C H Function.
Thanks,
Bubba.
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Prozac my A$$.
We need MODs/Admins to get a grip on these BS threads everyone posts BEFORE looking around or using the S E A R C H Function.
Thanks,
Bubba.
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We have mods? Ooh I know. Since you're so good at it and all, why don't you make a new tutorial thread on how to use the S E A R C H function (I couldn't find that one. Just the Search function by the way).
bubbacs1 said:
Prozac my A$$.
We need MODs/Admins to get a grip on these BS threads everyone posts BEFORE looking around or using the S E A R C H Function.
Thanks,
Bubba.
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Let me get something straight. This thread is to
CUT DOWN ON THE BS THREADS PEOPLE ARE MAKING.
Some people need big text to get it through their minds.
I gonna start a thread for people posting threads to stop people from posting threads
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I gonna start a thread for people posting threads to stop people from posting threads
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Make a rumor thread, though!
Yeah, this seems like it was a bad idea. Well, whatever.
I searched, and I searched, but I couldn't find....no way on earth to find Peace of Mind!
Thank You, Thank You....two shows nightly.
Bubba.
.......fail
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LAWL
10char
A date has not been officially confirmed yet.
What is confirmed is that the update will be OTW only, the update will be released on sprint.com (not sure about htc.com), and you will be able to download it and perform the update....
what i don't know, as of yet, is if the update will wipe your phone, although i assume it will, considering what the update includes.
All i can tell you at this time, is that no sprint employee knows when the update will be released, all we have been told is this: "In the near future"...
outside of those 2 facts, all other information would result in a breach of privacy contract, and i will not risk that.
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A date has not been officially confirmed yet.
What is confirmed is that the update will be OTW only, the update will be released on sprint.com (not sure about htc.com), and you will be able to download it and perform the update....
what i don't know, as of yet, is if the update will wipe your phone, although i assume it will, considering what the update includes.
All i can tell you at this time, is that no sprint employee knows when the update will be released, all we have been told is this: "In the near future"...
outside of those 2 facts, all other information would result in a breach of privacy contract, and i will not risk that.
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"Employee" ... as in retail?
Someone's gotta know
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I gonna start a thread for people posting threads to stop people from posting threads
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Please Do.. This would be great...
IF YOU DON'T WANT TO READ THE THREAD THEN DON'T CLICK ON IT
Pretty Simple
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"Employee" ... as in retail?
Someone's gotta know
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no one that you're going to talk to, and honestly, the devs won't know a date until they finish it lol
and no, i'm not retail

Gratia ROM + Aria + HTC Sync 3.0

Can we use HTC Sync with this new rom safely?
Which ROM
kaschenberg said:
Can we use HTC Sync with this new rom safely?
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You really should be putting questions like this in the appropriate Thread, not create a new Thread. If you're talking about Liberated with Froyo ROM, put the question there. Same goes for the next question you asked.
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You really should be putting questions like this in the appropriate Thread, not create a new Thread. If you're talking about Liberated with Froyo ROM, put the question there. Same goes for the next question you asked.
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It technically doesn't matter. If someone were to search the forum the result would be the same, they'd get the answer they were looking for. Ultimately, that is what a forum is for: exchange of information. As long as we can search it successfully, that is the end goal.
You're just being too damn nit picky and I don't have the patience for it!
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It technically doesn't matter. If someone were to search the forum the result would be the same, they'd get the answer they were looking for. Ultimately, that is what a forum is for: exchange of information. As long as we can search it successfully, that is the end goal.
You're just being too damn nit picky and I don't have the patience for it!
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Nit picky, patience????? I guess that means you have the patience to wait for someone to finally read your Thread (which is totally misplaced) and answer your question. Wait all you want. As of this hour, I'm the only one that has replied. And all I was trying to do is help your feeble mind get an answer to your stupid question. EXCUSE ME for trying to help. Oh by the way, people usually search THREADs, not the whole damn site, DUDE! Oh BTW, you never mentioned which ROM you were asking about since you didn't add the question in any particula thread. Did you expect people to answer your question for all ROMS in the ARIA secdtion? DUH!
kaschenberg said:
It technically doesn't matter. If someone were to search the forum the result would be the same, they'd get the answer they were looking for. Ultimately, that is what a forum is for: exchange of information. As long as we can search it successfully, that is the end goal.
You're just being too damn nit picky and I don't have the patience for it!
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Post in the proper thread. It's that friggin simple.
cease said:
Nit picky, patience????? I guess that means you have the patience to wait for someone to finally read your Thread (which is totally misplaced) and answer your question. Wait all you want. As of this hour, I'm the only one that has replied. And all I was trying to do is help your feeble mind get an answer to your stupid question. EXCUSE ME for trying to help. Oh by the way, people usually search THREADs, not the whole damn site, DUDE! Oh BTW, you never mentioned which ROM you were asking about since you didn't add the question in any particula thread. Did you expect people to answer your question for all ROMS in the ARIA secdtion? DUH!
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Oh by the way, people usually search THREADs,
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Well, I guess I'm indifferent that I usually search phone device sections, or a sub-section of the device (development, general, etc). In this case, my question fits perfectly where I'd be able to find it!
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Oh BTW, you never mentioned which ROM you were asking about since you didn't add the question in any particula thread.
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I did ask which ROM, the subject clearly states the Gratia ROM - there's only one in existence!
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Did you expect people to answer your question for all ROMS in the ARIA secdtion?
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Why not? I actually already found my answer though! Thanks for the help DUDE!
And, I don't post in the General section because most of the dimwits in the GENERAL section have not a friggen clue what they're talking about. 95% of them probably don't even know about the Gratia ROM being ported to our device.
I stand corrected on the ROM question; you did state it, my mistake.
Still not sure why you didn't post your question in the Gratia Thread that was already started; namely: "HTC Sense UI Froyo ROM for HTC Aria aka Liberty aka Gratia"; fits beautifully there. And, I was really only trying to help you get an answer quicker; no nit picky'ing intended.

important, please read

I have gotten quite sick of all the stupid derailments in the forums lately. Why is it necessary to start off talking about bugs in the latest ***** ROM, and somehow end up talking about how poster #56 is a slimy d-nozzler that has no place talking about zebra pigmentation. I understand that everyone has incredibly hilarious wit, and a need to share it. All i ask is that you think before you post. Everyone is *****ing about this problem for a reason. its not a joke anymore. one post is helpful, the next 26 pages are full or bumtards arguing about whos e-member is bigger.
no need to answer to this, as there is nothing to respond to. just read this, laugh about the truth, and learn.
First!
Sorry iSaint.
Wow...really? A D-nozzler? No one should ever be degaded that badly..lol.
stir fry a lot said:
First!
Sorry iSaint.
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Done with that dude don't want to piss off that 25%
he's sick and tired and tired and sick!
iSaint said:
Done with that dude don't want to piss off that 25%
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that's a shame. i thought it was quite funny.
This thread is a nice treat. Anyone have info about ciq?
by the way, im not trying to sound like i care that deeply, it's just very aggravating trying to learn something, and all i see is useless sh!t that has nothing to do with the topic at hand. maybe im just not understanding something, but im pretty sure im not the only one thats kind of irked at the level of trolling
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I have gotten quite sick of all the stupid derailments in the forums lately. Why is it necessary to start off talking about bugs in the latest ***** ROM, and somehow end up talking about how poster #56 is a slimy d-nozzler that has no place talking about zebra pigmentation. I understand that everyone has incredibly hilarious wit, and a need to share it. All i ask is that you think before you post. Everyone is *****ing about this problem for a reason. its not a joke anymore. one post is helpful, the next 26 pages are full or bumtards arguing about whos e-member is bigger.
no need to answer to this, as there is nothing to respond to. just read this, laugh about the truth, and learn.
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Welcome to XDA Developers, home of 10% info and 90% bull****
Ehhh I'm thinking more like 70 30
But we have sammich technology and we're not afraid to enjoy the treats of it!
Haha......
heathmcabee said:
Welcome to XDA Developers, home of 10% info and 90% bull****
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Reminds me of a certain Subaru forum Nick named nast1c0ck....
"If Satan lived in heaven he'd be me.... "
this thread is coming across extremely butt hurt
murso74 said:
this thread is coming across extremely butt hurt
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very "loose butthole" (anyone watch workaholics ?? ROFLMAO)
(crap, I just went off topic again.. what's this thread about ?? OH "sick of stuff getting off topic"... )
I agree in the more informative threads.. getting REALLY derailed sucks.. but sometimes I think...
"all dev and no play makes for a boring ass XDA".. but that's just me
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very "loose butthole" (anyone watch workaholics ?? ROFLMAO)
(crap, I just went off topic again.. what's this thread about ?? OH "sick of stuff getting off topic"... )
I agree in the more informative threads.. getting REALLY derailed sucks.. but sometimes I think...
"all dev and no play makes for a boring ass XDA".. but that's just me
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i agree 100% (and im quite glad someone likes workaholics too) but thats why everyone has the ability to make new threads. if im talking about the popular ciq issue, why would someone ask for the reason their mms isnt working in the same thread? thats all im saying. im not trying to be some asshole that is against the fun and betterment of the group. Devs get the most work done while having fun, no doubt. but stpid people posting stupid things non stop is whats hurting the epic community so much
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This was important?
Boobies..... now there's something that's important....
I think it started out important. Then was derailed with talk of tasty treats. And now boobies.
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HAHAHA, winnar!!!

NOT FAIR!!!!!

http://www.droiddog.com/android-blog/2011/11/cyanogenmod-9-ics-hitting-galaxy-tab-10-1/
This better come to the iconia fast!!!!!
Mod edit:
Thread closed at OP request
I'm sure once CM9 is out, a developer will work on porting it to this tablet. May take a bit. But I'm positive we'll see it. Remember we have some pretty good developers working on our device
You started another worthless thread.
Just what we needed, someone crying for candy or ice cream.
frankws said:
You started another worthless thread.
Just what we needed, someone crying for candy or ice cream.
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Virtual Tantrum lol
frankws said:
You started another worthless thread.
Just what we needed, someone crying for candy or ice cream.
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I gave you a "thanks" not because of this post, but because us low thanks count folk need to stick together.
Sort of defeats the point of a Thanks button then...
melcali said:
I gave you a "thanks" not because of this post, but because us low thanks count folk need to stick together.
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melcali said:
I gave you a "thanks" not because of this post, but because us low thanks count folk need to stick together.
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Ditto, I returned the favor.
Damn, defeated by irony...
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Damn, defeated by irony...
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gosh every time i start a new thread people get off topic
azoller1 said:
gosh every time i start a new thread people get off topic
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As I said, it is a worthless thread.
There were already other threads dealing with ICS.
If read the rules you should not have started it.
So people are just having fun with it.
Besides, there is nothing unfair about it.
frankws said:
as i said, it is a worthless thread.
There were already other threads dealing with ics.
If read the rules you should not have started it.
So people are just having fun with it.
Besides, there is nothing unfair about it.
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azoller1 said:
gosh every time i start a new thread people get off topic
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Gosh every time i follow a thread where the topic does not state anything useful i see these posts
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frankws said:
As I said, it is a worthless thread.
There were already other threads dealing with ICS.
If read the rules you should not have started it.
So people are just having fun with it.
Besides, there is nothing unfair about it.
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Actually this is about CM9 and ICS and im pretty sure there is no other thread about it
azoller1 said:
Actually this is about CM9 and ICS and im pretty sure there is no other thread about it
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i think the problem is not really the subject, but the way you treated it ("not fair", "This better come to the iconia fast")
and also maybe some of the people who answered here are "usually rude"...
InvalidCast said:
i think the problem is not really the subject, but the way you treated it ("not fair", "This better come to the iconia fast")
and also maybe some of the people who answered here are "usually rude"...
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I was not intending to be rude if that's how your view it.
I was just stating the fact because we have a site cluttered with multiple threads dealing with the same thing. And multiple dealing with another subject.
It gets harder and harder to find what you are looking for in the cluttered garbage. It would be nice if the moderators would actually do something about it, like delete this useless thread and all our useless posts, including mine.
Oh no, I should not be so rude to myself. My bad.
shiz. i ate 24 ice cream sandwiches within 2 freakin days. i bet that hasnt been discussed.
frankws said:
I was not intending to be rude if that's how your view it.
I was just stating the fact because we have a site cluttered with multiple threads dealing with the same thing. And multiple dealing with another subject.
It gets harder and harder to find what you are looking for in the cluttered garbage. It would be nice if the moderators would actually do something about it, like delete this useless thread and all our useless posts, including mine.
Oh no, I should not be so rude to myself. My bad.
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Please re-read my message. Nowhere it's said i'm talking about you: please be kind enough not to make me say things i did not say.

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