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Hi all,
I've had a search for this but can't find any solutions.
Unless i'm being really stupid I xcan't find a way to make my XDA mini S count only OUTGOING calls. Basically, I get 100 free minutes a month and currently have no idea how many I am using. The only thing I can get the phone to count is a total of in and outgoing calls which is utterly useless.
Any suggestions?
Alex

DkToday is the app you need, it counts outgoing calls and sms. You can set the date you want to roll-over as well ( my minutes are round up and charged to me every 11th of the month.) I'll attach two files here. First install version 1.69, then replace with the dll in version 1.80. good luck!

Where's the setting options in dktoday?

Sorry, I forgot to mention that. Go to start-settings-today-items and tap the DKToday Plug-in. Then select options on the right side of the plug-in list, and the options menu pops-up.

When you say replace the DLL do you mean simply install the older version then copy and paste the new version into the install location?
Many thanks

Yes. If I remember correctly, the 1.80 cab only contains the .dll file and not the complete program. Simply installing the 1.80 cab should work, but not without having 1.69 installed first. So simply install version 1.69 and then install 1.80 over the old version.

Ah brill, have got it working. So if i tap on the phone icon is it meant to take me to missed calls? It doesn't seem to wor. The bluetooth one does. And what is the bar in the top right? battery? Is there a way to turn that off?

Downloaded this but cannot install on the Wizard.
Two files nether of which will install.
00CAB2BE.001
0DKTODAY.000
How do I get this on ?

the bar in the top right is a signal strength indicator, it shows you how strong your signal to the nearest GSM transmitter is, like the phone icon in the top bar. Clicking on it turns your screen off. Tapping on the phone symbol only works when you have a missed call. It then pops-up a screen, asking you if you want to call back the number you have not answered. It will not take you to the missed call section like the dialer does when you press the calls button there.
Disabling some lines in the plug-in can be done in options, by selecting which lines ( 1, 2 or 3) it should show.

@Nikko2: copy the cab files to your device using Active Sync or Explorer, than execute them from there, first 1.69, then 1.80. Choose Device as install location and it should work.

It doesn't count the sms. I have 150 and it comes out 000

Same here. App is not counting the text messages.

It first starts counting when you recieve an SMS. The only problem i have with that is that it counts my deliverynotifications as well. So it allways counts +1 when i sent a sms and get the notification. It doesn´t count how many sms you have in your inbox

freezor said:
It first starts counting when you recieve an SMS. The only problem i have with that is that it counts my deliverynotifications as well. So it allways counts +1 when i sent a sms and get the notification. It doesn´t count how many sms you have in your inbox
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Problem is, mine doesn't count in or out going sms. at all.

DKToday only counts sms delivery notifications. Be sure to turn that on. When you type a new message, go to menu-options and check the box. When the delivery notification is received by your phone, the app counts 1 sent sms. There is a way to turn these delivery notifications permanently on. I have posted this in a similar thread and it is also posted in the original thread on this program. use the search.
Be sure to verify if your provider charges you for these notifications, because some do. In Holland these notifications are free of charge, but that does not always go for other countries, so be sure to check this to avoid nasty surprises on your bill.

Koksie said:
DKToday only counts sms delivery notifications. Be sure to turn that on. When you type a new message, go to menu-options and check the box. When the delivery notification is received by your phone, the app counts 1 sent sms. There is a way to turn these delivery notifications permanently on. I have posted this in a similar thread and it is also posted in the original thread on this program. use the search.
Be sure to verify if your provider charges you for these notifications, because some do. In Holland these notifications are free of charge, but that does not always go for other countries, so be sure to check this to avoid nasty surprises on your bill.
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Thanks

dktoday seems to make my wizard/cingular8125 run really slow. Anyone else notice this?
What happens if you don't install 169 before 180?

Dr Doom said:
Hi all,
I've had a search for this but can't find any solutions.
Unless i'm being really stupid I xcan't find a way to make my XDA mini S count only OUTGOING calls. Basically, I get 100 free minutes a month and currently have no idea how many I am using. The only thing I can get the phone to count is a total of in and outgoing calls which is utterly useless.
Any suggestions?
Alex
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Use CalltimeApp - the perfect solution for keeping track of sent text messages, MMS and calltime...

DoctorT said:
Use CalltimeApp -
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Is it available in englis. Google only turned up german versions. I'd hate to have to learn another language just to track my SMS.

bittermormon said:
DoctorT said:
Use CalltimeApp -
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Is it available in englis. Google only turned up german versions. I'd hate to have to learn another language just to track my SMS.
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You may be right - I didn't know that...
But the program is very simple - I am sure you won't have a problem. I will email the developer and contact you in case he decides to make an english version - it can't be a big deal to translate the few menus...

how to stop notifications for email

I have gone to Notifications/Messaging: New e-mail message, and unchecked the box "Display message on screen." But I still get a notification message on the screen whenever there is an email. How do I stop this? (I've already searched this forum and could not find the answer, although I've seen the question asked before.)

just going to bump this up i have this issue also

yup, same here!

The more annoying one for me is the SMS sent notification.

What OS/ROM are you people using? I have never had this issue with any of the stock or WM6 ROMs I've used.
As for the SMS Sent notification, there are myriad apps that you can use to disable this. SK-Tools is one, but it's not free. HTweakC also has this option, and it is free, but you need to register with the DL site in order to get it.
If you have a Reg Editor, you can set it yourself with the following excerpt from the Wiki:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings]
"SMSNoSentMsg"=dword:00000001 ->0 to enable, 1 to disable.​Note ... the Wiki page I'm referring to is here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Registry[/INDENT][/B][/FONT]
And it also has information about, and a link for HTweakC.
-pvs
[EDIT] As an afterthought, I realized that I DO have phoneAlarm installed, and I believe that I get better control over the notifications with that tool. Maybe this is why I don't experience this issue? [/EDIT]​

Pvs, thanks for your reply. I have a Cingular 8525. It has had this problem from the time of original purchase--two months ago--using the stock configuration that comes out of the box. I recently upgraded to the new ROM on the HTC website, but I am not using WM 6 or anything like that. I still get a notification message on the screen whenever there is an email, even though I have unchecked the box "Display message on screen" under Notifications/Messaging: New e-mail message.

@Tim1234: FWIW, I used Sounds & Notifications to turn my screen notification for emails off (I typically leave it on), and it worked as its supposed to. At this point, I'm not sure how to solve your (and obviously others) problems with this.
Just to make sure ... you ARE talking about the bubble that appears at the bottom of the screen, right? You are NOT referring to the icon that appears on the top command bar. If it's the icon at the top, I don't think there's a way to disable it...though I may be wrong.
FWIW, I am currently using one of the WM6 ROMs, but I don't believe that is the issue.
Maybe someone else will chime-in with some other info. Sorry I could not be more help.
-pvs

Yes I am talking about the bubble that appears at the bottom of the screen.

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tim1234 said:
I have gone to Notifications/Messaging: New e-mail message, and unchecked the box "Display message on screen." But I still get a notification message on the screen whenever there is an email. How do I stop this? (I've already searched this forum and could not find the answer, although I've seen the question asked before.)
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Have you found a solution for your question?
Ciao,
DeepThought

no I have not!

SMS Delivery Notification

Ok, maybe this aint completely a pure Xperia Issue, more a WM6.1 Issue. But maybe the solution might be? .. if there is any
I'm a guy that like to get Delivery Notification on my text messages,
not to be confused with Sent noticed, which I find kinda useless, you receive a error msg if the SMS isnt sent anyhow.
But back to the Issue, SMS Delivery Notification.
As it is, you send your SMS and then get a NEW SMS telling you that your SMS was delivered.
(And it dont even bother matching the number to your addressbook, wtf?)
How I want it to work, and had several cellphones that did, is to just flag your sent SMS as delivered.
Does someone share my frustration? or am I just a whining sob?
And does anyone have a solution to this highly annoying(according to me) problem?
Some kinda SMS client for Windows Mobile, or for the Xperia?
The Sent Notification isn't an issue
I don't like it, but I know how to turn it off.
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What I would like... is to have the Delivery Notification /Report,
not as a separate "sms" that dont match against your address book.
But as a "green flag" or something that indicate that your SMS has been delieverd.
Had this feature on my earlier devices, then the SMS-icon was a envelope(as it is now)
and to see that it was sent you saw a "stamp-icon" and when it was delivered it was a
green check flag i the corner of the envelope. Hope you understand me now

I feel your pain.... then I installed advance config and disable the delivery notification... since then, that I am a happy man

i saw this:
http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/SMS/SMS-Reports-Eraser-Pro-69843.shtml
havent tried it yet...maybe you could and tell me how you get on with it ;p

odobo said:
I feel your pain.... then I installed advance config and disable the delivery notification... since then, that I am a happy man
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I think your talking about the Sent Notification, and I despise it ... disabled this too ... but the Delivery Notification I really like, so I can verify that my SMS reach its destination.

billybobjones said:
i saw this:
http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/SMS/SMS-Reports-Eraser-Pro-69843.shtml
havent tried it yet...maybe you could and tell me how you get on with it ;p
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I have looked at this prog too, not used it thou ... It might be a good idea, but still dont understand why they didnt just flag you excisting SMS instead of creating a separate "reporting SMS", especially useless when it dont match the number with you addressbook, or it just me that have stopped memorize ppl:s numbers?

billybobjones said:
i saw this:
http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/SMS/SMS-Reports-Eraser-Pro-69843.shtml
havent tried it yet...maybe you could and tell me how you get on with it ;p
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I use it and recommend it...

Wrekk said:
Ok, maybe this aint completely a pure Xperia Issue, more a WM6.1 Issue. But maybe the solution might be? .. if there is any
I'm a guy that like to get Delivery Notification on my text messages,
not to be confused with Sent noticed, which I find kinda useless, you receive a error msg if the SMS isnt sent anyhow.
But back to the Issue, SMS Delivery Notification.
As it is, you send your SMS and then get a NEW SMS telling you that your SMS was delivered.
(And it dont even bother matching the number to your addressbook, wtf?)
How I want it to work, and had several cellphones that did, is to just flag your sent SMS as delivered.
Does someone share my frustration? or am I just a whining sob?
And does anyone have a solution to this highly annoying(according to me) problem?
Some kinda SMS client for Windows Mobile, or for the Xperia?
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Okey I don't know if this is your answer but I've got a swe xperia as well.
I can write my way in swe and translate to eng but
in messages view, press meny -- verktyg -- alternativ -- SMS/MMS (i listan) -- Begär leveransmeddelanden
(menu -- tools -- alternatives -- SMS/MMS (from the list) -- Demand report on delivery)
This is deliveryreport and it works for me...
I shut off "Message Sent" xith Xperia Tweak from cliffords.

daweeb said:
Okey I don't know if this is your answer but I've got a swe xperia as well.
I can write my way in swe and translate to eng but
in messages view, press meny -- verktyg -- alternativ -- SMS/MMS (i listan) -- Begär leveransmeddelanden
(menu -- tools -- alternatives -- SMS/MMS (from the list) -- Demand report on delivery)
This is deliveryreport and it works for me...
I shut off "Message Sent" xith Xperia Tweak from cliffords.
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Thanx mate, but I think you misunderstand me, or I dont explain myself well enough
The Sent Notification isn't an issue
I don't like it, but I know how to turn it off.
What I would like... is to have the Delivery Notification /Report,
not as a separate "sms" that dont match against your address book.
But as a "green flag" or something that indicate that your SMS has been delieverd.
Had this feature on my earlier devices, then the SMS-icon was a envelope(as it is now)
and to see that it was sent you saw a "stamp-icon" and when it was delivered it was a
green check flag i the corner of the envelope. Hope you understand me now

What network are you on? I know some carriers don't support the delivery notification feature, but on O2 in the UK if you add *0# to the beginning of your message it will send you an SMS back when it's been delivered.. works for me (and *0# are all conveniently placed next to each other on the X1 keyboard, how nice!)

Hehe... I use TELE2 ... and I DO get a Delivery notification /report.
I just dont want it as a separate SMS! or as it say a msg from "System Administator" telling me my SMS has been delivered.
if you read the post I have posted above, I try to explain this a few times.
I do appreciate all you guys trying to help thou!
Cheers!

Same here - Again, the problem is NOT that the delivery notification itself annoys us, we know how to turn it off or on. The annoying part is just the way of presenting the notification. All other phones I had so far (as a matter of fact only Nokias) had a special way of treating the incoming delivery notification, they did not display the notification like a normal text message, but rather marked the corresponding sent text message as "delivered". If I turn on the delivery reports on the X1, I get a new text message for every one I sent. That is stupid
What we are looking for is a way of making Windows Mobile 6.1 read the incoming delivery reports and mark the corresponding sent text messages. Or at least they should not cause the X1 to notify us as the same way a normal text message does (i.e. same sound, same message dialog, etc...). I want to know that a message has been delivered without first having to believe "I got a text message" and then seeing that it's only a delivery report...

Yep, I'm looking for a solution to this issue too. Having recently bought an HTC Touch HD, this is one thing that I think my old Sony Ericsson K610i handled much better.
Would be great to find some tweak that makes the phone treat delivery reports as a status change of the sent text message (sms), rather than as a separate message altogether.

So what you're trying to say is:
Now: - You get a seperate sms saying the message has been delivered.
What you want: - The message in the "sent" folder changes icon when delivered.
Is there a solution for this that anyone knows of?
Thanks,

DankertV said:
Yep, I'm looking for a solution to this issue too. Having recently bought an HTC Touch HD, this is one thing that I think my old Sony Ericsson K610i handled much better.
Would be great to find some tweak that makes the phone treat delivery reports as a status change of the sent text message (sms), rather than as a separate message altogether.
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Finally someone that finds it as annoying as me!
Now tell me you are a kick-ass-win-mobile-developer!
I'm just a low-life-sql-dba-bad-ass
so I cant do **** about this... well except google

Another thing with the delivery report. I once got one when my ringtones were turned off, but the sound came anyway. So my theory is that its recognized as a system message, not a SMS. System voulme was still activated. Anyone noticed that too?

Wrekk said:
Finally someone that finds it as annoying as me!
Now tell me you are a kick-ass-win-mobile-developer!
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Nope, sorry, I'm not much of a win-mobile-developer... However, I did find a small app that actually fulfills my wishes somewhat. It's not perfect, but it's better than the default delivery reports...
Have a look at this site and have a go at SMS Delivery Recipt Fix. The author is active here on the forum, so you can find lots of info on this app in several threads (after all, that's how I found it). I just tried it on my phone (HTC Touch HD running Win Mobile 6.1) and it works brilliantly. The status message is still delivered as a separate sms, but now it pops up in a bubble, and the option to delete it is right there with it. In my opinion, that's a lot better than having to go into the inbox, find the report, and delete it from there. I think I'll stick with this solution.

That bubble with the "delete" option is how it works for me..but this just came with win 6.1, nothing special installed for that feature. Still it would be good to see wich contact is reported about.
But as i read that "fix" is meant to also show the contacts name, i will try that.

nurps said:
That bubble with the "delete" option is how it works for me..but this just came with win 6.1, nothing special installed for that feature. Still it would be good to see wich contact is reported about.
But as i read that "fix" is meant to also show the contacts name, i will try that.
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Yes, I do feel a bit stupid here, but I realised later that the bubble popup notification is a built-in function of WinMo 6.1... I just hadn't properly understood how to enable it, that only became clear to me once I had installed the sms fix. But, the fix still does a nice thing, i.e. link the displayed number to a name, which looks a lot better.

Yes but from the screenshot is moves the delete link from onscreen to menu / delete..that would be annoying again. Is that right?

nurps said:
Yes but from the screenshot is moves the delete link from onscreen to menu / delete..that would be annoying again. Is that right?
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Not at all. Look at the screenshots again. The one with a menu is the "new message" notification... There you have more options like "call sender", "delete message", and so on. The first screenshot shows how the delivery report is displayed, and this comes with two on-screen options: dismiss and delete. No menus to navigate here.

"SMS Sent" notification? Does the HD2 have it?

One thing I miss from my Touch Pro, is the little pop up confirming my SMS has been sent.
I can achieve a similar effect with delivery reports, but they make the same noise as receiving a text (which gives me false hope haha) and I have to delete them manually.

I believe some of the custom ROMs have this, but the stock 1.66 WWE HTC ROM doesn't.

Go to Messages section
All Messages
Menu
Settings
Options
Under SMS --> Tick Request deliver report.

erosennin said:
Go to Messages section
All Messages
Menu
Settings
Options
Under SMS --> Tick Request deliver report.
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try reading the whole post

Finding it hard at this time of the day

GaZ said:
One thing I miss from my Touch Pro, is the little pop up confirming my SMS has been sent.
I can achieve a similar effect with delivery reports, but they make the same noise as receiving a text (which gives me false hope haha) and I have to delete them manually.
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Besides the explanation mark not being present, i dont believe it does. I havent tried myself but i remember someone mentioning it may have this but not in threaded conversation mode, when this turned off in the old message format (so you can see the sent folder etc).

ROMs based on 2.10 have it - and it's probably the most annoying notification ever! So glad Miri took it out of his...

If you need “SMS sent” notification, you can use “Zenyee Disable HTC Messaging 1.2.CAB” from this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=631449
On my HD2 (official T-Mobile CZ ROM) it blocked conversation mode and restored it “SMS sent” notification.

Delivery report for SMS

Hi all! I've update the software & I enabled the delivery report for sms.
When I send a SMS, I did not receive the delivery report. Anybody encounter this?
How can I make the delivery report work? Thanks

lostsouls said:
Hi all! I've update the software & I enabled the delivery report for sms.
When I send a SMS, I did not receive the delivery report. Anybody encounter this?
How can I make the delivery report work? Thanks
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Are you using regular message application?
If so double check on you have ticked for delivery report for SMS and MMS in the settings
And check with your service provider its already activated to your sim card (this has noting to do with what kind of phone ur using, ask service provider to activate such service, if its available with them)

Shiwantha said:
Are you using regular message application?
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Yup. Regular SMS. No MMS
Shiwantha said:
If so double check on you have ticked for delivery report for SMS and MMS in the settings
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All checked... I never tried sending MMS though
Shiwantha said:
And check with your service provider its already activated to your sim card (this has noting to do with what kind of phone ur using, ask service provider to activate such service, if its available with them)
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My previous SE G900 is possible to receive, but not X10.

lostsouls said:
Hi all! I've update the software & I enabled the delivery report for sms.
When I send a SMS, I did not receive the delivery report. Anybody encounter this?
How can I make the delivery report work? Thanks
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the X10i does not notify you if the sms was delivered, you can check by tap and hold on the message (sms) you send and a menu pops up and you select view report, it will show you if it is delivered or pending. it is a pain in the a$$.

energie. said:
the X10i does not notify you if the sms was delivered, you can check by tap and hold on the message (sms) you send and a menu pops up and you select view report, it will show you if it is delivered or pending. it is a pain in the a$$.
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I just called customer service. They told me on the right side of the SMS, there's an envelope. If there's an exclamation mark on top of it, it means its delivered...

I haven't use the regular message from the beginning.
Try using Handcent Sms, its free. And I have made customized handcent sms for X10.
check this forum handcent sms Modified to XPERIA X10 GUI
Once you installed,
On Handcent, go to settings/sent notifications/pick notify when message is received.
and do a test msg to a friend. It should show you an indication and you can pick custom tone.
Note:
if you get 2 notification for one message its because handcent and regular message both alerting for same event.
go to regular message and setting and remove all the notifications. keep only handcent.
Good luck

Shiwantha said:
I haven't use the regular message from the beginning.
Try using Handcent Sms, its free. And I have made customized handcent sms for X10.
check this forum handcent sms Modified to XPERIA X10 GUI
Once you installed,
On Handcent, go to settings/sent notifications/pick notify when message is received.
and do a test msg to a friend. It should show you an indication and you can pick custom tone.
Note:
if you get 2 notification for one message its because handcent and regular message both alerting for same event.
go to regular message and setting and remove all the notifications. keep only handcent.
Good luck
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Thanks. I've downloaded HandCent. Its better than the regular SMS. I love it!!!!!!!

lostsouls said:
I just called customer service. They told me on the right side of the SMS, there's an envelope. If there's an exclamation mark on top of it, it means its delivered...
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If it is MMS, then Exclamation mark, else Tick mark for SMS.....

Hi all,
I think I'm having a similar problem -
When I send a message, it definitely is sent - my friends are receiving them - but in Handcent, I get the blue-turning circle next to the message (as if it is still sending) and in the stock messaging app, the same message has the envelope with the exclamation mark.
Yet the messages ARE being sent.
This has only just started happening in the last day or so. I have installed quite a few apps to help save the battery since rooting - e.g. JuiceDefender, SetCPU, TaskPanel and StartUp Manager, but as far as I can tell I've not done anything to the SMS settings. As far as I can tell...
I'm on R2BA023, rooted, on O2 UK.
I've had a look through all the settings I can think of but I'm stumped now. This is the final niggle in my otherwise great new rooted set-up...

Hey - just wanted to update as I seem to have fixed it...
Not sure HOW, but it's one of the following. Seems to be something in "Startup Manager".
1) I had removed "Handcent SMS" for "User startup". Under the basis of "if I need it, I will run it".
2) Had removed the default x10 "Messaging" app from "System startup". It had 3 entries in there. I removed them all...
So one of those things broke the Outbox. As I mentioned, messages would send (confirmed by friends) but still appear as "in progress".
So, having put them all back in "System Startup", and rebooted, the "stuck" messages finally stopped being "stuck". Fixing it seems to have sent the messages again, but they are no longer "in progress". They are, however, time-stamped with the current time (e.g. today) and not the time sent (e.g. yesterday). It turns out they have been "sent" again.
Oh dear, I just tinkered to try to pinpoint the problem and I've broken it again.
Further edit:
Actually, far from having fixed it, it seems that now the "stuck" messages only send during a reboot.
Trying to send them when the phone is "on" just leaves them stuck in the outbox. If I power off & on, they leave the outbox... BUT the recipient gets them again.
Damnit.
Any ideas?

Ungruntled said:
Hi all,
I think I'm having a similar problem -
When I send a message, it definitely is sent - my friends are receiving them - but in Handcent, I get the blue-turning circle next to the message (as if it is still sending) and in the stock messaging app, the same message has the envelope with the exclamation mark.
Yet the messages ARE being sent.
This has only just started happening in the last day or so. I have installed quite a few apps to help save the battery since rooting - e.g. JuiceDefender, SetCPU, TaskPanel and StartUp Manager, but as far as I can tell I've not done anything to the SMS settings. As far as I can tell...
I'm on R2BA023, rooted, on O2 UK.
I've had a look through all the settings I can think of but I'm stumped now. This is the final niggle in my otherwise great new rooted set-up...
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I dont think your rooting or any other application will affect this.
tell us what settings are u on when you go to :
On Handcent, go to settings/sent notifications/"What option??"

I think it's not so much the "rooting" as possibly "things I have tinkered with after I got power-crazy after rooting", i.e. trying to disable things I don't need from running at startup. Un-doing that seemed to improve it...
Odd that at the moment it sends during boot. So something runs at boot that sends my outbox messages, but it can't run once the phone is on.
I just uninstalled Handcent and used the stock app. Sent a message first time with no problems...
I will reinstall Handcent and take a look at what happens. I can't not have that app now, I love it (until I broke it).

TechGuru_x10 said:
If it is MMS, then Exclamation mark, else Tick mark for SMS.....
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its exclamation for all....

Well, re-installed Handcent. Seems to be okay now.
It's a bit odd, I never changed the settings in there, as far as I can tell.
Shiwantha, I remember that initially "Sent notifications" was on "Disable" but I changed it to "Notify when sent" when I was having problems, and it made no difference.
Anyway, it's fixed now. Thanks for your help!

A quick follow-up... I like to give as much info as possible in these situations so anyone else who happens to find this problem may find something here that helps...
After re-installing Handcent, there are now two entries in StartUp Manager's "User" section. After my previous tinker-sessions, I could only see one to enable/disable, but I thought there were two before.
So I think that I "broke" one of those start-up entries.
For the record, it is working now and I have:
- Disabled ALL "Messaging" entries in "system" section of Startup Manager
- Left BOTH entries for Handcent SMS in "user" section of Starup Manager
The only conclusion I can think of is that by disabling the "Handcent" entries, I "broke" one of them, and so could only re-enable one of the entries. I assume the other one had some kind of SMS outbox functionality.
I'm just guessing though. But at least I can disable the "messaging" stock apps and it all still works.
FIXED. Relief!

cvchetan said:
its exclamation for all....
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I just unrooted else would have shown u the screenshot.
Sent from my X10i using XDA App

In additon to owning the X10 I own the X1. The message delivery notification was driving me mad on the X1. With the X10 I noticed there is a red X if the message has not been sent. However, once it is send the red X is cleared away. I like it this way much better.