http://www.androidcentral.com/best-buy-now-expecting-hero-rom-update-may-7
At last ?
Or is it another web rumor ?
just wondering, what happened to the taiwan update end of april? any1 hear anything?
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I thought I read on here that the update is going to be in two stages, one preparing the phone and the other giving us 2.1 which was pushed back to June. Maybe this is just the crappy update.
I don't believe that bull****. Just another rumor.
Also can someone enlighten me what the hell means this: "and could cause seizures in small pets" ?
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Also can someone enlighten me what the hell means this: "and could cause seizures in small pets" ?
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yeah they really could have been more specific in what they mean by "small", are we talking hamster size seizures or Yorkshire terrier size seizures?
HTC
Damn...
I was considering doing the OTA update in a pet shop...
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I was considering doing the OTA update
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that's crazy talk
Anyway I was asking myself :
Assuming that almost every member/reader of this forum would have tried at least once to install a custom ROM on their Hero, what to expect from the Official 2.1 update ?
Will I be sticking with it ? Will I wait for Villain/Kimera/other ports ? Assuming also that custom Roms will never be 100% stable...
Because from my experience with custom roms (and I've installed A LOT of them on A LOT of devices), it's allways about finding a compromise between speed and stability...
Yep, it's wednesday morning and I really don't wanna get to work...
I think when this 2.1 update comes out (probably won't happen soon, not even friday, as we all know HTC) this only may help custom modders in the stability of their roms, nothing else I'm guessing.
Wouldn't that be the Sprint Hero anyway?
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Assuming also that custom Roms will never be 100% stable...
Because from my experience with custom roms (and I've installed A LOT of them on A LOT of devices), it's allways about finding a compromise between speed and stability...
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Hmmmm,.... Well I haven't had the experience of swapping and changing ROMs on my Hero,... But having had it for about 2-3 months now, I'm still 100% happy with the speed and stability of the ROM I flashed to it on day 1, ... MCR3.2. I think I'v had 3 or 4 application force closes, and only had it freeze up forcing a re-boot ONCE!!!
I'm sure the custom 2.1's will be just as stable once we get the official ROM to use as a base.
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Wouldn't that be the Sprint Hero anyway?
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Yes, I would assume so.
I'm not really looking for a more stable 2.1 rom. I just want the speed that is in the 1.5 roms. Since i've heard the 2.1 should be faster the the previous versions I have high hopes får the official release and that the dev can make the most out of it.
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So it wouldn't change anything, would it? I mean, don't we already have ROMs made from the Sprint Hero leak?
Hopefully this news would be true. I'm also looking forward to 2.1 rombut not because of its new capability but actually for developers in enhancing making the 2.1 rom using overclocked method
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Same here
Hope that devs wil make some nice looking and fast rom out of it.
And no way i;m flashing it on my G2. Lucky that the gold card procedure worked out for me.
Am @ Chpoubs_4.1 it looks amazing
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http://www.androidcentral.com/best-buy-now-expecting-hero-rom-update-may-7
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no feel.....
I just really hope the battery life will improve.
Current 2.1 ROMs are already quick and stable enough for me, I wish the battery would last longer though. Aside from that, there are only a few minor bugs in most 2.1 ROMs that are currently out there, which do not really bother me.
Its not the 2.1 ROMS that are the problem its all down to the Kernel,which no1 has!surely if it was coming soon then it would have leaked somehow!
if you follow the link from the article it says sprint hero...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6386414#post6386414
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if it isnt gonna come out then i'm gonna root my phone.
the update being? the only one i can think of is the T-MO market
if you wanna wait, wait til spring
The OTA update to Android 2.0? That's still a rumor at this point.
it was just confirmed today that the g1 and mytouch are getting android 2.0 by the end of january.
markshield07 said:
it was just confirmed today that the g1 and mytouch are getting android 2.0 by the end of january.
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Source? 10 Characters
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Source? 10 Characters
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Best evidence so for http://www.androidguys.com/2010/01/...m_campaign=Feed:+androidguyscom+(AndroidGuys)
That seems reliable...
So did Toyota
In the past the rumors have rarely been reliable in regards to timing, so I wont be holding my breath. The Eclair roms that are available in the developers section work very well for now
That's definitely the most trustworthy-looking 2.x rumor so far. However, I won't believe it until it's officially confirmed by T-Mobile USA.
What timing! Just after finally rooting and installing CyanogenMod, an official OTA for 2.0 might be right around the corner. I wonder what would be considered preferred by most XDA users...a good modded 1.6 ROM like CM, or an offical T-Mobile 2.0 ROM.
The good modded 1.6 roms have a lot of 2.0 in them. Really besides aesthetics and the hella cool live wallpapers there are not a lot of changes that are noticeable. Speed wise there doesnt seem to be any issues either- they seem about equal. Might as well wait unless your into testing out roms and such. I am, so I have to have the latest daily
If this comes out I might actually Un-Root and Force Update.
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If this comes out I might actually Un-Root and Force Update.
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It will be on here faster than you can unroot and force update! No need to worry about unrooting so you can get the newest update, there will be a version within hours of the OTA's starting on XDA, and if history is anything to go by, they will probably have it on here a couple days early.
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If this comes out I might actually Un-Root and Force Update.
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cyan or enom would have a update before you even put the RC29 onto your sd.
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cyan or enom would have a update before you even put the RC29 onto your sd.
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Are you referring to a CyanogenMod build with 2.0, or simply a regular 2.0 dump put out by Cyanogen? I'm keeping my fingers crossed for CM with 2.0!!!
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a good modded 1.6 ROM like CM, or an offical T-Mobile 2.0 ROM.
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CM is not a good rom. It is bloated and slow.
Official rom is also not good. It lacks some basic necessities, like wired tether and apps-to-sd.
The preferred choice should be an AOSP 2.something build with minor kernel customizations, and using the drivers that will finally be available from the official rom.
I would stay with my un-rooted G1 if there was a simple app to let me put my apps on the SD.
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Don't remember this being the case when Donut was released. At least not the stable versions.
try manups 2.1 rom.
if you can do with out hd youtube and videorecording its faster than cyanogens latest. it's actually the first rom i've stuck with more than a day that isn't cyanogens.
Just to let you guys know the G2 is the Hero in Europe.
So if that post is true. The G1 and the Hero will be getting 2.0/2.1 and 2.0/2.1 sense by the end of january.
It seems to me thanks to the leak, we have everything an official release would have, except the bugs . Why is everyone anticipating it so much?
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It seems to me thanks to the leak, we have everything an official release would have, except the bugs . Why is everyone anticipating it so much?
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1. fresh kitchen.
2. kernel source code for the .29 kernel.
3.??
I think it is more for the code guys, because once they release officially then leagally HTC has to release the source (which they probably wont without pestering again) but that will allow the code monkeys (no offence you guys are awesome) to work their magic and get things really improved.
That is a very good question. I am completely happy with what I have now. Fresh 2.0d is, IMO, as good as it gets.
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What changes for us?
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We can start reading 5 new FroYo threads per day!
Thank you. That makes perfect sense. I had forgotten about the Kernel being OSS.
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kernel source code for the .29 kernel
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2.1 + Overclock + Working Camera = yes
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2.1 + Overclock + Working Camera = yes
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That
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All I care about is Fresh 2.1!
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That is a very good question. I am completely happy with what I have now. Fresh 2.0d is, IMO, as good as it gets.
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All I care about is Fresh 2.1!
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!!!
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It seems to me thanks to the leak, we have everything an official release would have, except the bugs . Why is everyone anticipating it so much?
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Some of you guys are completely delusional. The official release is going to fix an enormous number of bugs that currently exist in all 2.1-leak-based roms.
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Some of you guys are completely delusional. The official release is going to fix an enormous number of bugs that currently exist in all 2.1-leak-based roms.
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And most likely create more bugs than it fixes.....just as the November MR did.
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Some of you guys are completely delusional. The official release is going to fix an enormous number of bugs that currently exist in all 2.1-leak-based roms.
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im not sure what bugs you are refering to. I have 0 problems with my phone (except when I mess with stuff)
First the OFFICIAL version shouldn't have us running back and forth to FIX little things.
Loading a ROM after the release should be as smooth as say....Fresh 1.1
I haven't had to FIX anything in that ROM and everything works.
My 2 cents is that being able to find the thread you want with the ROM dev you like and then load that ROM would be sweet.
But sifting thru' 200 plus pages and being asked to fix the ROM is weird for me.
Seems the dev would ADD the fix and re-release?.....no?
But like everyone else, I'm waiting for the OFFICIAL release before jumping into making assorted changes which we ALL might have to re-change when the release comes about.
Thanks,
Bubba.
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First the OFFICIAL version shouldn't have us running back and forth to FIX little things.
Loading a ROM after the release should be as smooth as say....Fresh 1.1
I haven't had to FIX anything in that ROM and everything works.
My 2 cents is that being able to find the thread you want with the ROM dev you like and then load that ROM would be sweet.
But sifting thru' 200 plus pages and being asked to fix the ROM is weird for me.
Seems the dev would ADD the fix and re-release?.....no?
But like everyone else, I'm waiting for the OFFICIAL release before jumping into making assorted changes which we ALL might have to re-change when the release comes about.
Thanks,
Bubba.
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The forums are called 'XDA DEVELOPERS'. If you (not you specifically but in general) are going to ***** and whine because the ROMs you're using aren't 100% flawless...you're in the wrong place. Sit down shut up and wait for the official release. These ROMs aren't perfect, nor are they intended to be...but by and large they're a hell of a lot better than the crap Sprint has consistently put out (both Android and WinMo).
As for 'fixing huge amount of bugs'....umm..I doubt it. I doubt Sprint would even be aware of most of them were it not for developers and testers like those here on XDA.
With the update to 2.1, Hero users will be able to activate an ancient supernatural power known as Voltron. We can either use it to better humanity...or destroy society.... I call dibs on the head.
With the update to 2.1, Hero users will be able to activate an ancient supernatural power known as Voltron. We can either use it to better humanity...or destroy society.... I call dibs on the head.
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lol I think apple is gonna do that. lol
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I wouldn't look for that .29 kernel source to be available when the office 2.1 drops. HTC's gonna **** around for a while before giving that up.
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2. kernel source code for the .29 kernel.
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Considering how long it took to get the source code for the .27 kernel, don't count on it.
bubbacs1 said:
First the OFFICIAL version shouldn't have us running back and forth to FIX little things.
Loading a ROM after the release should be as smooth as say....Fresh 1.1
I haven't had to FIX anything in that ROM and everything works.
My 2 cents is that being able to find the thread you want with the ROM dev you like and then load that ROM would be sweet.
But sifting thru' 200 plus pages and being asked to fix the ROM is weird for me.
Seems the dev would ADD the fix and re-release?.....no?
But like everyone else, I'm waiting for the OFFICIAL release before jumping into making assorted changes which we ALL might have to re-change when the release comes about.
Thanks,
Bubba.
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well i never really had any problems since i rooted and installed the roms that ive gotten from xda (damage 2.0r3 and now 2.07.2) to be honest they have been much more bug free than the stock rom 1.56 that i origionally had. so im sticking with xda and to go back and never be able to root again.... well thats scarry
As you all may know I've been away from the developing scene for a couple months now. I had a lot of things to take care of and I just really couldn't find the time to work on any projects...Well the good new is IM BACK! I have a couple tricks up my sleeve as usual,so stay updated for the release of my next project. To everybody who supported me once before and continues to support my work I want to say thank you.
-Cannon
YAYSICKLE!!!! awesome donut roms maybe??
cool hopefully some thing comes up for you to do but I think the g1 is a dead device now a days lol... but who knows.
Really dead? I guess that only problem js low memory.. i'm just running SuperF ROM and it's really fast... after replacing some issues and including app2sd it's gonna rocks,man...
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Good luck in your future endeavours as long as they aren't based on CM source
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YAYSICKLE!!!! awesome donut roms maybe??
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Curious how did u get 7.5kbps?
It'll be a pleasure, CaNNoN Complete Eclair was first custom ROM I ever flashed . I'm waiting for your next releases! Maybe a ROM based on 2.2.1 OTA with more locales, locking launcher in memory, apps2ext, busybox and root? It would be ideal piece of software for G1.
please tell me this is still happening
I feel like the Aria is slow with developments. NOT COMPLAINING, I love liberated and CM6 (awesome, btw) but when do you think new ROMS are going to come out?
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I feel like the Aria is slow with developments. NOT COMPLAINING, I love liberated and CM6 (awesome, btw) but when do you think new ROMS are going to come out?
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New ROMS based on what??? We have HTC Sense ROMs for Eclair 2.1 and Froyo 2.2 and AOSP CM 6.1. What else are you looking?
Personally I hate visiting the other device forums because everybody and their brother has 'cooked' up another ROM (mostly just new themes or added favorite apps). IMO who has time to stiff through all the various ROMs and threads? I find it much easier to review 3 different ROM threads and try to help others than to try and go through 10 or 15 threads and seeing messages such as 'well this worked on this ROM but it doesn't on that ROM, why not?'
OK, I'll get off my soap box now...
I agree. Plenty of good variety in the ROMs we have.
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New ROMS based on what??? We have HTC Sense ROMs for Eclair 2.1 and Froyo 2.2 and AOSP CM 6.1. What else are you looking?
Personally I hate visiting the other device forums because everybody and their brother has 'cooked' up another ROM (mostly just new themes or added favorite apps). IMO who has time to stiff through all the various ROMs and threads? I find it much easier to review 3 different ROM threads and try to help others than to try and go through 10 or 15 threads and seeing messages such as 'well this worked on this ROM but it doesn't on that ROM, why not?'
OK, I'll get off my soap box now...
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Agreed. You cleared some things up.
Hopefully we'll get an official Aria Froyo update before Christmas...
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Agreed. You cleared some things up.
Hopefully we'll get an official Aria Froyo update before Christmas...
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Complete with AT&T bloatware no doubt
You can always go buy an EVO or Desire and take your pick from upteen different ROMs
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Complete with AT&T bloatware no doubt
You can always go buy an EVO or Desire and take your pick from upteen different ROMs
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There's nothing wrong with that actually. Sometimes it's a good thing because there are more people developing towards something greater. We have 1 or 2 guys doing all this work. There are some pretty badass ROMs for the more popular phones out there. If we had more people developing and cooking, we'd no doubt have something better than what we have even now.
Screw those giant phones.
But a little more ROMS would be cool, we just need more people with the Aria.
It's not a bad phone...hah.
What would you like to see in a new ROM?
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What would you like to see in a new ROM?
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Not too sure, as I have only had the Aria and used the two ROMS.
it's not a bad thing that we may only have 3 roms, but they are actually good quality roms, not just thrown together, and they are constantly being updated, but it would be kool if they had more help with them. Although i wish they had some people creating or porting themes, if i knew how i would, if anybody wanna help me learn, i wouldn't mind contributing by making themes for the aria, cause i kno i'm not the only one wishing they could have a theme to try out
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it's not a bad thing that we may only have 3 roms, but they are actually good quality roms, not just thrown together, and they are constantly being updated, but it would be kool if they had more help with them. Although i wish they had some people creating or porting themes, if i knew how i would, if anybody wanna help me learn, i wouldn't mind contributing by making themes for the aria, cause i kno i'm not the only one wishing they could have a theme to try out
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+1 on themes
I recently rooted and installed CM6.1.0RC2, and only thing I'd say it's missing is Flash Lite compared to Sense. Wish there was a way to get Flash Lite on CM, sadly not possible. Still loving CM though. Might test Sense again when there's an official Froyo update from AT&T and attn1 has taken out all the bloatware.
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I recently rooted and installed CM6.1.0RC2, and only thing I'd say it's missing is Flash Lite compared to Sense. Wish there was a way to get Flash Lite on CM, sadly not possible. Still loving CM though. Might test Sense again when there's an official Froyo update from AT&T and attn1 has taken out all the bloatware.
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Hopefully it's before Christmas.
AT&T is just soooo slow
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I recently rooted and installed CM6.1.0RC2, and only thing I'd say it's missing is Flash Lite compared to Sense. Wish there was a way to get Flash Lite on CM, sadly not possible. Still loving CM though. Might test Sense again when there's an official Froyo update from AT&T and attn1 has taken out all the bloatware.
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Wait... why wait for the official ATT rom? It's going to be near identically the same as the Gratia ROM with 2.2 in it. You can go download it and flash it now.
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Wait... why wait for the official ATT rom? It's going to be near identically the same as the Gratia ROM with 2.2 in it. You can go download it and flash it now.
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Agreed. Waiting for the AT&T ROM to be released and then having someone remove the bloatware is pointless. What you will end up with is available now as Liberated FR07...
Sorry didn't mean the rom, meant the source kernel for attn1 to add and hopefully figure out why track wake isn't on plus all the other little things that's on his list that aren't in the current build.
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Sorry didn't mean the rom, meant the source kernel for attn1 to add and hopefully figure out why track wake isn't on plus all the other little things that's on his list that aren't in the current build.
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Um trackball wake works. So does wifi tethering and overclocking. We also have flash working.
Check this post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9615379&postcount=128
Check the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=821933&page=13
From what I understand it's using the froyo kernel from the legend now.
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That's right folks- get your supercharged Froyo sense goodness now with the newer kernel source released by HTC for the HTC legend. Everything works as far as I know, except for the built in wifi hotspot app for which we have replaced with the working Wireless Tether app thanks to the work of shakerhero. Final thanks go to attn1 and jznomoney for their hard work on the CM kernel, ladios for bundling up the kernel, trackpad wake fix, and wireless tether in a single, proper package.
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Just gotta flash it yourself. Been running it for a couple of days. Prior to that was using the CM6.1 kernel for OC and trackball wake.
kura808 looks like i've been missing some good reading
thanks for the links too.
http://www.samfirmware.com/apps/blog/entries/show/6282349-android-2-3-2-leaks-for-galaxy-s-
This is a just leaked rom for the galaxy s. hopefully the devs can use it for the vibrant.
well even if not at least we know now that Samsung wasn't lying about March for the euro/Asian markets.
Nice, hopefully we will be able to use this to our advantage?
Also, couldn't we flash this since we now have the kernel that allow us to flash i900 ROMS? If we could just flash those files, then flash the kernel through Odin somehow it might work. Idk though, I'm no dev.
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well even if not at least we know now that Samsung wasn't lying about March for the euro/Asian markets.
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+1, Samsung might actually hold up to their promises this time around! Or, probably not.
more details - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=974117
GINGERBREAD leaked
damb, this is so great, im thinking maybe tonight we might have a port for the vibrant, and i wonder if eugene and krylon know about this considering, it just today got leaked, a few hours ago.............. anyways, everyone post on this, lets get the hype going, we want this baby ported ASAP.. always thanks so much eugene and krylon, my brothers of galaxy android
So far from what i've read over there...
Looks like quadrant scores are not improved over 2.2 which is what i'm sure most people are hoping for. It also appears that the screen off animation is not present in the rom. It's also using Touchwiz 3.0 and not 4. Market is broken, and gingerbread keyboard also not included. Looks like an early beta build from what i've read.
**edit**
market is working, they have root access, and they are in the process of deodexing.
So far from what i've read over there...
damn double post. please delete
Sweet, hope we can get some cooked roms soon
The bad thing about it, it uses touchwiz 3.0, not stock.
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The bad thing about it, it uses touchwiz 3.0, not stock.
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True but we have CM7 for that. I was looking forward to TW 4.0. Cant wait to try out both.
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True but we have CM7 for that. I was looking forward to TW 4.0. Cant wait to try out both.
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Im using cm7 right now. Cant wait to be finished.
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True but we have CM7 for that. I was looking forward to TW 4.0. Cant wait to try out both.
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did they do that much improvement on tw 4.0 to make it all exciting and everyone wanting it now.
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did they do that much improvement on tw 4.0 to make it all exciting and everyone wanting it now.
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There are videos on youtube if you want to see.
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Man how things have turned around for us Vibrant owners. Source... 2.2.1 roms/ports... unofficial CM7.. And now this. We can finally be proud Vibrant owners
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Nice, hopefully we will be able to use this to our advantage?
Also, couldn't we flash this since we now have the kernel that allow us to flash i900 ROMS? If we could just flash those files, then flash the kernel through Odin somehow it might work. Idk though, I'm no dev.
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The kernel that allows us to flash i9000 ROMs is only 2.2 and 2.2.1 compatible. I'm pretty sure someone would have to build a new kernel to let us flash that or port the ROM over.
The crowds are getting restless over there. They're in an uproar about "this is missing" and "that is missing". One of the complaints is about the gingerbread wallpaper being missing. But these guys forget that our 2.1 devices didn't come with stock 2.1 walls. They instead came with whatever wallpapers samsung gave us. Overall it's starting to sound more complete than the first froyo leaks that we used to have which is reassuring. Some of the guys say that the leak is stable and everything is working on their devices. One of the nice improvements they're reporting is functioning hardware acceleration.
No TV-off?! NOooOoO!
(not being sarcastic)
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The crowds are getting restless over there. They're in an uproar about "this is missing" and "that is missing". One of the complaints is about the gingerbread wallpaper being missing. But these guys forget that our 2.1 devices didn't come with stock 2.1 walls. They instead came with whatever wallpapers samsung gave us. Overall it's starting to sound more complete than the first froyo leaks that we used to have which is reassuring. Some of the guys say that the leak is stable and everything is working on their devices. One of the nice improvements they're reporting is functioning hardware acceleration.
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Funny to see their behavior over it when we are just sinking our teeth into 2.2.1. Maybe its a good thing though.. I myself am so pleased with the performance boost of 2.2.1 that I'm in no rush to flash again but of course I'm in the minority on that.
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Funny to see their behavior over it when we are just sinking our teeth into 2.2.1. Maybe its a good thing though.. I myself am so pleased with the performance boost of 2.2.1 that I'm in no rush to flash again but of course I'm in the minority on that.
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Na I'm with you on that, running Bionix 1.3 and it really is just as fast as CM7 was for. Really the only thing that gingerbread had over this ROM is that the applications list loaded faster. Plus on this I have themes