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this is my first week using tmobile in the US with the nexus one.
I am not able to get download speeds more than 800kbps. it does not matter how good the reception is.
I have tried in various places in north CA and in cleveland OH.
I think that such speeds are pretty bad for 3g. with at&t I used to 2-3mbps at times.
my friend with the verizon droid is seeing 1.5mbps-2.5mbps download speed .
what are other users on tmobile are seeing?
seems like tmobile is rate limiting the speeds or their network is just really bad.
How are u measuring the speed? I use the speed test app and it used to have a server close by in San Jose (65 mi) now I have to use a server in new Mexico and I'm in CA so that makes it seem slower too
There are two apps in the market i test with: speedtest.net and extreme speed test.
I also checked with the laptop tethered to the phone. same pathetic speeds. i can hardly call it 3g comparing to the competitors.
Is it the phone or is it tmobiles network?
clubtech said:
There are two apps in the market i test with: speedtest.net and extreme speed test.
I also checked with the laptop tethered to the phone. same pathetic speeds. i can hardly call it 3g comparing to the competitors.
Is it the phone or is it tmobiles network?
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i just got 2MB/s up and 400 kb/s down
WOW thats whats im talking about best ive ever seen
still waiting for those 6mb/s up and 1mb/s down (a.k.a. my cable high speed enternet at home)
I have never seen verizon that fast in my area, generally 500 kbits to 1mbits but I would say that you are getting the norm for tmo as mine have never reached 1 mbit but can go past 10 mbit on wifi.
BGR did a test a while back although not scientific agrees with the tests I have done in my area.
BGR Carrier Wars
Average Download Speed
1. Sprint: 1361kbs
2. AT&T: 933kbps
3. T-Mobile: 786kbps
4. Verizon: 701kbps
Average Upload Speed
1. Verizon: 322kbps
2. Sprint: 267kbps
3. AT&T: 180kbps
4. T-Mobile: 177kbps
Try this speed test....
I usually see 1000 - 1200 kbps but quite often see 1700 - 2000 kbps using the speedtest.net app in the android market. Something to remember, your 3G connection is initially UMTS and will switch to HSDPA on demand and when available. You may notice that your first test will show a ping of ~300ms and speeds of 500 - 700 kbps (UMTS), but if you hit "test again" immediately after the first test completes you should see a ping of about ~175ms and approximately double the speed (HSDPA). I've noticed that the default server (closest server according to the speedtest.net app) is usually slow and doesn't give me proper results. I've had very good luck using the Chicago server. Try using the Chicago server and run back-to-back tests, let us know if your results change.
I would agree T-Mobile's 3G is crap. Using a Rogers G1 on AT&T using speedtest.net app, I was seeing over 2Mbit down and over 800kbit up consistently.
T-Mobile's so called "7.2 Mbit upgrade" is a joke. Kind of like their coverage maps. I want to like them, but at least in my area, AT&T obliterates them. It's too big of a different for me. If an AT&T 3G compatible nexus one is released, I will have to get one. I could probably live with the slower speeds if the coverage wasn't so spotty.
Your move T-Immobile.
-James
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I would agree T-Mobile's 3G is crap. Using a Rogers G1 on AT&T using speedtest.net app, I was seeing over 2Mbit down and over 800kbit up consistently.
T-Mobile's so called "7.2 Mbit upgrade" is a joke. Kind of like their coverage maps. I want to like them, but at least in my area, AT&T obliterates them. It's too big of a different for me. If an AT&T 3G compatible nexus one is released, I will have to get one. I could probably live with the slower speeds if the coverage wasn't so spotty.
Your move T-Immobile.
-James
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As a former T-Mo Wireless Engineer Intern, I can tell you that there is only a very very small roll out on 7.2 right now. They are testing the network before they enable more circuits. The original plan when I worked there was for a gradual 2 city per month rollout. Then slowly build the network to cope with added traffic. Its suppose to be a gradual process that will also involve using old equipment and expanding current 3g service. The high speed roll out was priority one, then is service expansion. Also contracts were involved last I saw that would expand coverage 2-fold, but negotiations for tower rights were falling through, so I don't know where thats going.
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As a former T-Mo Wireless Engineer Intern, I can tell you that there is only a very very small roll out on 7.2 right now. They are testing the network before they enable more circuits. The original plan when I worked there was for a gradual 2 city per month rollout. Then slowly build the network to cope with added traffic. Its suppose to be a gradual process that will also involve using old equipment and expanding current 3g service. The high speed roll out was priority one, then is service expansion. Also contracts were involved last I saw that would expand coverage 2-fold, but negotiations for tower rights were falling through, so I don't know where thats going.
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Wow, talk about an honest answer. If I could just get coverage at my house, I could support team Magenta
-James
There is an issue with 3g on the nexus that has been commented on a number of times, and that is the flapping of UMTS and HSDPA. (not to be confused with those flapping between 2g and 3g). With my G1 I was able to get speeds as high as 3Mbit, but I too have only seen 800Kbit max on my nexus and I believe its due to this constant flapping of 3g technologies.
Today is my first day on tmobile with the N1, I've been running on Edge ATT.
I was worried about switching over because my gf has had tmobile and doesn't have great service at our house.
I was afraid mine would be worse with the 3g issues the N1 has been having but it appears to be almost identical to hers.
in my living room we get 1-2 bars 3g and I see test speeds of 50-300 down and 950-1250 up.
I go to my office right above the living room and get 3 bars and 700-900 down speeds with 700-900 up speeds.
No stoked about it but I havnt had any signal swapping issues so I'm going to use it for GPS to test out now and see how it does. GPS and mapping even on edge with ATT was super fast so I have high hopes.
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There is an issue with 3g on the nexus that has been commented on a number of times, and that is the flapping of UMTS and HSDPA. (not to be confused with those flapping between 2g and 3g). With my G1 I was able to get speeds as high as 3Mbit, but I too have only seen 800Kbit max on my nexus and I believe its due to this constant flapping of 3g technologies.
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So are you saying that if you pop in the SIM card from the N1 to the G1 in the same place you get 3Mbps vs. 800Kbps on the N1?
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So are you saying that if you pop in the SIM card from the N1 to the G1 in the same place you get 3Mbps vs. 800Kbps on the N1?
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Correct, I get full signal at my work (-63dBm 25asu). The G1 didn't skip around and stuck firmly to UMTS, and I was getting much better rates with it. My N1 however maxes out at no more than 800.
@jmcdonald what are you agreeing with LOL were talking about decent speeds then you say you agree with the low speeds??? LOL
Anyway I don't have 3g flopping problems neither did I on my g1
I am seeing speeds in most cases upward of 2.2 mbps... and am even averaging over 1mbps in upload speeds which is pretty good when I have full 3g reception in the Northern NJ area.
I get anywhere from 2.0 - 3.5Mbps down on average, and I have seen up to 4.5Mbps down on occasion. Up is always around 1 - 1.3Mbps.
However, I'm in Philadelphia, and we have HSPA+
Wow, I don't know how you guys are getting DL speeds upwards of 1.5mbps! Here in San Diego, the most I've seen anyone on ATT get is around 1.2mbps, and 1.1 on Sprint. Tmo is usually anywhere from 700-1mbps with some spikes over that now and then.
My G1 and N1 get the same speed range.
I'm in Maryland, just outside of D.C. I also just switched from AT&T to T-Mobile (yesterday actually). I'm also getting DL speeds of like 700-800 kbps. Hope it will someday be a little faster than that.
download - 137kbps
upload - 217kbps
From all the repots in this post it seems that tmob is just slower in some parts of the country and faster in others.
I hope they are planning on catching as 700-800kbps is a joke.
is just me or anyone having 3g problems. my 3g icon changes to edge then 3g very often sometimes withing feets of distance. very annoying, cuz my speed goes up n down. san jose area
Im in Pa and Ny and i dont get this issue
Hawaii. Yup. for no reason it'll cut and go from 3G to Edge
hope we dont get the same bug the nexus had or has not sure if they fix it...i guess we need to wait n see.
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hope we dont get the same bug the nexus had or has not sure if they fix it...i guess we need to wait n see.
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Nexus still has this issue I gave my wife my nexus and got the Hd2 for this reason
I'm in the San Jose Area and I don't have that problem.
same problem here in Olympia. went to the store to see what was up and the awesome clerks were more confused then i was
I'm not experiencing any issues like that here in Virginia Beach, VA. Sorry to hear about that, I know it would frustrate me!
Same city, Constant 3G at home but there are some areas of San Jose that I notice no signal or very weak signal. T-Mobile Store on Curtner for example.
same problems in Denver.
lost my tethering connection a few times due to this. I forced it to just the GSM/EDGE band, it's more reliable, but is SLOOOW.
-Tony
am in NYC and often my connection changes from 3G to E
me to in Marlton, NJ
What are the 3G frequencies for the US version? I live in Guatemala, and want to buy this without a contract
Thanks!
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What are the 3G frequencies for the US version? I live in Guatemala, and want to buy this without a contract
Thanks!
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WCDMA/HSPA: 1700 MHz (AWS) / 2100 MHz
has anyone tried a different radio ROM yet?
nope. and no word as to if the 2.09.51.03 radio works on the stock rom.
-Tony
I'm wandering if the other 3g mobile devices of tmobile have this..
Seems like Nexus One issue
I have the same issue, fluctuating from 3 bar 3G to 3-4 bar edge.
From what I read on other forums Nexus one seems to have had the same issue on TMo network. I am not sure if it is resolved yet.
I am kinda having the problem but I was told because they are about to launch HSDPA in my area so they have been turning it on and off alto so its messing with my reception and going from E to 3G to H and back and forth
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I'm in the San Jose Area and I don't have that problem.
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finally you got the phone as well i got myself one as well
I live near San Jose and today I tested out the "trial" 4G network at the Cisco campus. I seemed to get a good signal but the results were disappointing - 1.5 Mbps downstream, 800 Kbps upstream.
Is anyone able to get better? Maybe the "trial" network at Cisco is just crappy??
Here in Atlanta I'm getting download speeds of about 3megs. I believe that they are capping the speeds. I have a 4g usb dongle and that is the same speed I get on it. Once upon a time I used to get anywhere from 6-11megs using the dongle and it now only gets 3megs (just like my phone). I know there is no signal strength issue because the tower is on the roof of the building and I get a very good signal.
Anyone else experiencing this?
I got 2.2mbps, but no 4g. I was thinking it was 4g, but I shut the 4g button down and it's never said 4g and I still get 2.2mbps down and .32mbps up. I'm in Pasadena. I'm not sure what to make of that.
I'm in a 4g coverage area and still cant get it to connect to 4g unless im at sprint or bestbuy... and even then 3g is still faster...
Nothing against anybody, but I would kill for 3G where I live, let alone crappy 4G.
Be thankful for what you have, no matter how much you may think it sucks.
In the roswell/alpharetta area and I am getting about 4.7mbs works pretty well. Sprint tv needs improvement though otherwise very happy with new phone. Seems snappier than incredible phone I have too.
I'm in Dallas and I"m loving my 4.5ish download and 1.3 upload, you heard right. 1.3 upload.
pretty bAd
I'm getting 1 bar or less of 4g service at my house.. I live in tacoma wa. The 4g coverage map shows that I should have about the best service speed.. I just have to stand outside and down the block to get it. so much for pitching Comcast.
Dallas, TX
I am currently north of Dallas and I get zero bars of 4G, though sometimes I see one bar light up. So far the most I have seen in a speed test is 1.6 mbps down and 223 kbps up.
I will test again when I am actually in the City of Dallas and see if it improves. Web is still quicker than any other phone I have owned.
in san antonio tx i get about 1.8 down and 1.5 up lol.... and before the launch a friend used to get from 10-11 megs on his wireless card... i think since the phone is new the network is congested with ppl doing speed tests and downloading apps
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In the roswell/alpharetta area and I am getting about 4.7mbs works pretty well. Sprint tv needs improvement though otherwise very happy with new phone. Seems snappier than incredible phone I have too.
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I'm also in roswell, however i'm not seeing speeds above 3mb
Are you getting close to the speeds of 3?
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I'm also in roswell, however i'm not seeing speeds above 3mb
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I've tried running the speed test in the Roswell, Sandy Springs, Smyrna, Airport area, and McDonough and I still keep getting the same speeds nothing higher than 3.3 down. I consistently seem to get anywhere from 2.7-3.0
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I live near San Jose and today I tested out the "trial" 4G network at the Cisco campus. I seemed to get a good signal but the results were disappointing - 1.5 Mbps downstream, 800 Kbps upstream.
Is anyone able to get better? Maybe the "trial" network at Cisco is just crappy??
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OP, I did a whole write up on the Bay Area 4G network - which in case you haven't noticed, is just for developer testing, NOT meant for EVO devices - over on my blog. Please read.
http://dylandersen.me/post/633300884/4g-in-the-bay-area-how-fast-is-it-really
THIS NEEDS TO BE SETTLED! I think I have an objective view.
I'm in Houston, TX so we have 4G coverage with ClearWire. I got my EVO yesterday, along with everybody else. I went to Best Buy to look at some accessories, while I was there I was chatting with the ClearWire rep running the demo and trying to sign up new customers. He was inside with store with his Clearwire USB dongle and laptop. We decided to run some speed comparisons, so I downloaded 2 speedtest apps from the Android market, one of them being for Speedtest.net. The best speed I got on my EVO with 4G enabled (and 1 bar of 4g) was about 2.25 Mbit down, and 1.1 Mbit up. I ran this test multiple times with me standing next to him, then putting my EVO next to the USB dongle to make sure I was getting the same signal. The rep's laptop, again running the speedtest from Speedtest.net and us using the the SAME servers, he got at least 6 Mbit down and almost 2 Mbit up. The best he got that I saw was like 7.2 Mbit down. He said that earlier that day he got as high as 10 Mbit down.
This is just telling me that it's either the processor that is limiting the speed, or it's the 4G antenna in the EVO. I saw that his 4G signal was pretty good being a bit outside the city, in Katy at Fry Road and I-10. I live just outside downtown I do get 4G inside my home, but again 1 or 2 bars. With my limited investigation I'm going to have to conclude that the network speed is NOT ClearWire's fault, but more like a hardware limitation on the EVO. If someone modded the phone with a better antenna the speed might improve.
About the existing 3G speed and with EVO is WOW! 3G response is soooo much faster on the EVO that it was on my G1. Another comparison is my home AT&T U-verse: I get 5.71 Mbit down and 0.94 Mbit up. I'm trying to think of a way that I can get my TV another way and get ClearWire for home instead of U-verse.
I dont think clear caps their 4G at all. See if you can connect to clear's 4G from your phone.
I get 2.5-3.5mb down and 800-1.3mb up. Still better than my dsl.
1.33 mpbs is the most I've gotten with 4G enabled. I am going to try again when I get home and see if the speed improves.
Anyone out there in the LA area getting 4g? I don't get 4g at all. My 3g is really fast, but no 4g shows. It just shows "scanning" in the settings.
Ok nevermind: LA still shows as coming soon on the sprint site.
****, I'm in Portland, one of the first WiMax areas, and I'm only getting 300/k down and 800/k up as I speedtest it now.
No big to me. I have wifi at home that pegs 5/5ish and at work about the same. I usually keep the 3g/4g off unless I am out and need it. Battery suckin' pig that stuff.
Since the end of November, most of Texas, it seems, has had a drop in speed/service quality with Sprint's 3G and 4G networks.
In Austin, I would regularly get between 1 and 2 mpbs download on 3G, and up to 6 on 4G. After the end of November, I get between 100-500kbps, if anything, and 4G service has been halved.
I called Sprint and they said that the outage is still in effect and they are working on it. I have experienced the slow network in Austin and Dallas. Very frustrating.
Anyone else?
San Antonio has had some issues as of late. I'm not a heavy data user, but definitely noticed a slowdown.
i live in austin and by my house (campus/hyde parK) speed across 3g has remained pretty constant. im in a low lying area so i have no 4g there
at work (arboretum area) i work at the top of a hill and prefer 4g to work wifi. I can normally get 3-4 and have even got 6 or 7 a handful of tests. i have never seen 3g anywhere (on my evo obv) above about 800 kbs. where are you that you have seen 1-2 mbps? cedar park? round rock?
for reference i just downloaded the 58 mb 3.7 update over 4g in about 2 or 3 minutes.
I live in South Austin, William Cannon and Manchaca, basically, and would always get over 1000kbps there, even though I am in a valley and don't have the best signal.
At work, by Zilker Park, and downtown I consistently used to get between 1 and 2 mbps. I never see 1mbps anymore.
Here is a copy of the email I got back from Sprint Support:
Dear Mr. _____:
We regret any frustration this matter may have caused. Our records indicate that there is a trouble ticket open for the Austin area. Customers may experience connectivity issues during this time. We are currently investigating this matter for the root cause of the issue.
Sincerely,
SprintCares
Im in San Antonio as well and it has defiantly been throttled down. you might want to try this little tweek it helped me alot since im on the line of 1604 and service really craps out there.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/htc-evo-4g/124138-increase-call-quality.html
ps u need to get ur MSL
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Im in San Antonio as well and it has defiantly been throttled down. you might want to try this little tweek it helped me alot since im on the line of 1604 and service really craps out there.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/htc-evo-4g/124138-increase-call-quality.html
ps u need to get ur MSL
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service around 1604 has sucked bad lately, same with out in helotes, and just about everywhere i go normally.
I live in Houston and I noticed a some what slower data rate here since about the middle of November... I had rooted my phone and thought maybe i would get better connection with it being rooted and nothing changed... I havent called Sprint yet because I have been so busy, but maybe after the holidays I will call them and see whats going on.
per the rep i just talked to, tower down affecting (wouldn't say where it is) San antonio, and a handful of other south texas cities, brownsville, san B____ something. and a city in west texas.
said national 3g coverage is down, probably due to the winter storms, but i doubt any towers i receive coverage from have been affected.
I live in Mineral Wells, a small town about an hour west of Ft. Worth, and I haven't really noticed a significant drop. I don't have access to Wifi or 4G, freaking boondocks, all I have to base this on is my 3G service.
I just ran a test off of a server in Austin with the SpeedTest app, and got:
Download: 139.6 kB/s
Upload: 82.8 kB/s
Ping: 175 ms
What do y'all think, good numbers?
Yea thats San Benito, I grew up there. Its been kinda slow recently here. but I dont notice. I am always on wifi when I get into the house.
Have been seeing the same thing here in NE San Antonio (IH 35 N & 1604) just tested again with 4G and got 3.55 mbs down & 0.85 mbs up. 3G 0.70mbs down & 0.26 mbs up. I have seen up in the 6.0 mbs when I first bought phone in October.
prosper (north of dallas) 3g sucks eggs. 4g is kinda spotty, but there.
I have wondered why service was lagging so bad. I have been driving around Dallas all day today trying to load maps and it has taken about 5 minutes per page over 3g. Can't get a decent 4g signal to stick and haven't been able to for the past month. I have noticed a major decline in signal strength/speed. I use mine mainly for the hotspot and it has definitely dropped in speed in the past month. I now get about 100 kbps if I am lucky. I hope they fix something soon.
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I have wondered why service was lagging so bad. I have been driving around Dallas all day today trying to load maps and it has taken about 5 minutes per page over 3g. Can't get a decent 4g signal to stick and haven't been able to for the past month. I have noticed a major decline in signal strength/speed. I use mine mainly for the hotspot and it has definitely dropped in speed in the past month. I now get about 100 kbps if I am lucky. I hope they fix something soon.
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There are updated radio's for the Evo and it helped get my speeds back up. I am in Richardson and both 3g and 4g had slowed to half. Now 3g is back to normal and 4g is close to what it was a few months back.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715485&highlight=radio+combo
If you are not on the new 3.70 build number only flash the radio and wimax update to the latest. DO NOT UPDATE PRI IF YOUR NOT ON 3.70!!
Seems like Sprint finally fixed whatever was the problem this weekend. On Saturday, suddenly my phone was finally getting over 1000kbps on speedtest.net and seemingly working like it used to.
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prosper (north of dallas) 3g sucks eggs. 4g is kinda spotty, but there.
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down the road in aubrey 3g is spotty at best... !!! although the home agent hack did help somewat but its still disappointing speeds not to mention with the entire north dfw metroplex exploding in population u would think they would have 4g blanketed by now but nope...
Is anyone having any major radio problems recently? I heard a few days ago something happened with Sprints network, but haven't verified it.
I'm currently running CM7-n94 and the past few days my 3g speeds using speed test are in the double digits! O_O I mean to say like 87b/s. It's worthless for me to even use the browser now if I'm not using wifi.
I'm flashing back to Froyo STOCK right now, (leaving it S-OFF) and calling sprint to complain.
Two Questions:
1.) Anyone else recently having really piss poor (more than usual) data speeds with 3G?
2.) Can I update to the OTA the from Froyo stock with S-OFF and still be rooted?
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Is anyone having any major radio problems recently? I heard a few days ago something happened with Sprints network, but haven't verified it.
I'm currently running CM7-n94 and the past few days my 3g speeds using speed test are in the double digits! O_O I mean to say like 87b/s. It's worthless for me to even use the browser now if I'm not using wifi.
I'm flashing back to Froyo STOCK right now, (leaving it S-OFF) and calling sprint to complain.
Two Questions:
1.) Anyone else recently having really piss poor (more than usual) data speeds with 3G?
2.) Can I update to the OTA the from Froyo stock with S-OFF and still be rooted?
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1. There are some cities that are subject to some slow speeds. Where are you located?
2. As long as your radio is s-off you're good to go.
About 5 miles from Center City Philadelphia.
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About 5 miles from Center City Philadelphia.
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Haven't ever read any complaints from anyone in Pennsylvania.
Try updating your prl and data profile.
Maybe call Sprint as well.
You could also completely unroot back to 3.70 and then reroot and see if it might help.
Also, updating your radios to the latest.
There's a thread in the development section.
I'm mobile or I'd give you a link.
Oh, ya, been there and done all that. This is even my 3rd EVO and I've never been able to break the 250-300k/bs limit on any of them, but this 87 is just getting ridiculous.
So sprint is sending me an Airave, but the guy said it's most likely not going to fix my problem. My next solution is to argue my way out of the contract and go with a more reliable carrier... Sadly there are no other phones out I want right now.
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So sprint is sending me an Airave, but the guy said it's most likely not going to fix my problem. My next solution is to argue my way out of the contract and go with a more reliable carrier... Sadly there are no other phones out I want right now.
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"reliable carrier" changes per the area you live.
If you make a note of the issue and it isn't fixed within a reasonable amount of time they will waive your ETF as they are technically violating the contract.
Akron, Ohio here and my data speeds have been crap all day. Phone keeps pulsing between 0 and 2 bars, but never seems to lock on to the tower reliably.
Akron, Ohio here and my data speeds have been crap all day. Phone keeps pulsing between 0 and 2 bars, but never seems to lock on to the tower reliably.
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Could just be a temporary area issue.
Personally, my data speeds absolutely SUCKED on the 05.02 radio. Ive since flashed back to 04.08 and all is well.
It's been a while, but one evening a 6 pack of beer and I sat down and flashed every single radio, and did 3 speed tests on each radio combo. Took about 2 hours all done and said, but there never was a huge difference.
The sprint rep said my location should have full coverage (I live in NJ, right outside of Philadelphia. Every carrier has full coverage here). I asked him what the average 3G speeds were, and he said I should be getting anywhere between 600kb/s and 1.2Mb/s.
I've never seen either of those numbers except when I use 4G. Keep in mind that I've used this phone everywhere from Utah, Colorado, NC, VA, DC, NYC, Philly, Trenton, etc and it's all the same. I, as the Spring rep, would like to blame the hardware, but this is the 3rd Evo I've had in a year.
My 4G speeds are usually about 2.5Mb/s. Friend of mine has the Atrix and he's getting 2.5Mb/s on 3G as AT&T hasn't rolled their 4G network out yet. I also have a friend with a Thunderbolt, and he's getting ~22Mb/s average. (Yes, that's Twenty Two)
So, again, as far as I'm concerned, the Evo is the best phone on the market still, however the service is a deal breaker for me.
I'm going to try this Airave thing out, but if it doesn't work I'm going to be shopping/waiting for the next LTE phone assuming Verizon gets a phone that's worth half a crap.
In addition...
This won't help at all but I need to add that I've switched from T-mobile to Sprint, and the 3G speed of T-mobile was incredibly fast in NYC. Sprint was bareable, but since the update it's been speeds of 0.19Mbs d/l and around 0.15Mbs up. It sucks because at my job I'm indoors with no 4G around so I'm confined to 3G. But at school when I have 4G full blast it's almost close to fiber optic speed.