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[Q] Nook Color Root?

Ok this might be a stupid question but I was wondering if those more knowledgeable think the new Nook Color tablet/eReader might be rootable?
I'm only asking since it does seem to be running a heavily skinned version of android, and I doubt that they'll release a Kindle app for it
I wouldn't even bother asking really but the price point is tempting.

Anything running android is more than likely rootable unless it has special hardware like the HTC G2 or Moto Droid2 to prevent such things. However...without any way of turning USB debugging on from the interface, even issuing commands through the ADB / SDK might not be of much use. The device may present its' own unique set of challenges.

im very much hoping to see whether XDA can root it. The original nook was extremely simple to root.
A rooted $250 tablet with a vividview screen with anti-glare laminant running cyanogen and android market access would be tremendous.

It would be my son's Christmas present for sure! If I like it I'll get another one for myself... But it has to be rooted so I can install at least a real office suite (the one that comes with it only views M$ Office documents, you can't edit them. And of course I need a comic book reader for that nice monitor. It's almost the size of a good old Marvel or DC comic!

From the look of the device, it appears to only have 1 'hard' button ('n') rather than the 4 standard android buttons (home, menu, search, back). How would this be addressed if the device is indeed rootable?
I guess there could be a UI overlay/modification for stock android (via launcher) that uses the 'n' button to activate an on-screen "drawer" that contains all 4 buttons.

Anything's possible with the wiz kids (and older wiz dudes) on this board!

sprntrl said:
From the look of the device, it appears to only have 1 'hard' button ('n') rather than the 4 standard android buttons (home, menu, search, back). How would this be addressed if the device is indeed rootable?
I guess there could be a UI overlay/modification for stock android (via launcher) that uses the 'n' button to activate an on-screen "drawer" that contains all 4 buttons.
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I saw a "dead" demo unit today and they appear to have four hard buttons (not all of which useful): power, vol+, vol-, nook.
I don't know if it will be possible on the NookColor, but other "single button" android tablets have been hacked to use the hard volume buttons as menu and back and simply ignore search.

I agree! The Nook Color apparently has processor that is comparable to the Motorola X and Droid 2. I think that it would be amazing if it is rooted and could run Stock Android and the Market! Then it would be kind of like the Galaxy Tab, except for some hardware but they both have the same IPS screen resolution, and the Nook costs a lot less money. I already ordered mine. Can't wait to see what happens!

Mastiff said:
It would be my son's Christmas present for sure! If I like it I'll get another one for myself... But it has to be rooted so I can install at least a real office suite (the one that comes with it only views M$ Office documents, you can't edit them. And of course I need a comic book reader for that nice monitor. It's almost the size of a good old Marvel or DC comic!
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This would be awesome if they can add in a nice comic book reader and subscription service like the newsstand they are pushing so hard. 75% of Ipad/Galaxy Tab Power for half the price. Preordered one for me and one for the wife

This would be awesome

Preordered for my son for Christmas. Hope they root it so he can read his comic books on it!

Archos
Assuming the Nook Color can be rooted, there may be a simple solution to the hardware buttons. If anyone has seen the Archos 7o or Archos 101, both of those have no hardware buttons for menu, home, back etc. Instead, they have an overlay of those buttons on the screen of the device. They're always there so it's like they're hardware buttons. It seems like a small sacrifice to make for a $250 7 inch Android tablet. Depending on the amount of RAM it has, its a winner for me

Haha I bought this solely with the hopes of this being rooted. The only issue I see is being able to enable USB debugging to root.

rutter9 said:
Haha I bought this solely with the hopes of this being rooted. The only issue I see is being able to enable USB debugging to root.
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You should be able to get adb access in recovery mode right? Just modify the adb driver with the hardware id and that should get things moving. Then you just need to enable it in the os somehow...There must be some sort of toolkit somewhere. Hmmmm....I might pick up one of these tonight to do some digging. I just need to figure out how to justify it to the wife!

Tonight? I thought they weren't out until Friday next week... As for the wife you need to do what I do: Let her buy a new dress or something. That always helps!

Mastiff said:
Tonight? I thought they weren't out until Friday next week... As for the wife you need to do what I do: Let her buy a new dress or something. That always helps!
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Preorders shipped early. Mine actually comes in tomorrow! They claim November 19th but that's for preorders. Not sure what the store's deals are probably have to call.

But the question is, does this have the horsepower to get stock Android 2.2/2.3 working smoothly?

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But the question is, does this have the horsepower to get stock Android 2.2/2.3 working smoothly?
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Engadget said that it has a TI Omap 800 mhz processor, and half a gig of RAM. I think thats workable for Froyo or Gingerbread

i cant wait to see what gets done with the nook. if it gets rooted and froyo on it ill go out and buy one just for that. i want a tablet but everything that has been coming out is not what im looking for. like the samsung tab really nice tablet but way to expensive.

InGeNeTiCs said:
You should be able to get adb access in recovery mode right? Just modify the adb driver with the hardware id and that should get things moving. Then you just need to enable it in the os somehow...There must be some sort of toolkit somewhere. Hmmmm....I might pick up one of these tonight to do some digging. I just need to figure out how to justify it to the wife!
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Im no developer, but would it be possible to inject a debugging flag via a website? kinda like jailbreakme used the pdf exploit to inject its bootrom but way less complicated id think..

the last emperor? motorola ES400, the best wm6.5 device

purchased motorola es400. truly happy with this device, do think it's the greatest wm6 device with fantastic usability.
pros:
1. qwerty keyboard is easy to press, even better than any blackberry keyboard
2. 3.0 VGA tft screen: high brightness, clear display
3. perfect size to fit your hands, rugged phone, rubber frame give you best feeling
4. 1500mah standard battery + 3000 mah extended battery, a gigantic power house. so no worry about battery
cons:
1. wm6.5(hope it'd be a android one)
2. system needs to be more optimized, it took 5 to 6 seconds to shoot a picture after you press camara button!!

came more pictures.
1 more cons: 2.5mm headset jack

more pictures....................

Looks like that came from the Symbol line of devices. Lots of retailers use the MC-70 and related devices for inventory work and more. Very good devices for that type of work, but way to big and bulky for average use.
When Motorola bought out Symbol they started make a line that was more slim and trim in the hopes of getting executives/manager to adopt them. They'd not only be able to perform the inventory type jobs but also work as the default cellphone for the individual.
They are very rugged and well built devices. They can take a LOT of abuse and still function. If I recall the OS has also been "ruggedized." What I mean is that they sort of strip out some of the more advance, high end stuff that is more likely to cause incompatibility and/or crashes. I know this is true of some of Symbol's earlier devices. I don't know if it's true with the Motorola stuff... especially if they wanted execs to use these I doubt they would have done too much to 'em.
Great devices for Field Work, but I don't know they're usually not cutting edge tech or the most feature packed machines.

You've got Windows EH 6.5 on this right ? What build number do you see on it ? Just curious

Sorry but the best WM device is Leo
At least for me

orb3000 said:
Sorry but the best WM device is Leo
At least for me
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Add me to this. Leo is already Legendary.

Can anybody with this device upload dumped ROM?

Hello
i need a german Rom for this device!
Can anybody help

Hi,
Try following link, it should offer you a download link with when you provide your device's SN
http://support.symbol.com/support/s...eId=&dialogID=216462608&stateId=1 0 216464033

As mentioned above, these devices are really designed for data capture work in the business arena. Just the job, for barcode reading, warehouse pick list instructions, utility company meter reading, in the field survey response capture, customer order capture, etc. etc, but for personal phone use, it is a bit of a heavyweight.
Having said that, if you make a habit of dropping your phone down the WC, quite a common method of trashing it by all accounts, such a purchase could be a very good investment. It will survive that sort of thing time after time. You will have to give it some really serious abuse in order to break it.
This is where Microsoft is taking the CE/Mobile/Embedded platform.
Windows Phone 7 is now purely a consumer product.

..if it had DPAD and wm6.1...
sigh.
what's the cost of this, btw?
any kitchens available?

Regarding the cost, they're not cheap, but then again you get what you pay for.
Here in the UK they start at just over £400.

thank you buddy, nice work

mrteii, have you tried to shoot a photo at night using the flashlight? the light is distributed also into lens, making an ugly white arc at the bottom of the picture. anyway, the PenTile display is very nice. i'm currently using this device alongside with mc75a, which i like much more

On Sprint in the USA, the Touch Pro 2 is the best Windows Mobile device. I would get a Leo/HD2 if I was on T-Mobile.

Anyone one could get this ES400 rom ?

orb3000 said:
Sorry but the best WM device is Leo
At least for me
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Also think that! Proud leo owner here!

Ev0luti0n_ said:
Also think that! Proud leo owner here!
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go away..
sheesh.

I just received this device off ebay several days ago, brand new, unbranded and it came with the extended battery. I've added a PNY 32GB class 10 microsd card and activated it with an at&t gophone plan. I'm getting the H data symbol up top so it looks like I'm connecting at 3.5G speeds and so far so good! It's quite beastly in size but I love the display and the keyboard! I hope they release an updated model in Android/WP7 form, but I kinda like how it feels like a computer on a phone. It's my first WM phone, my previous phone was a Palm Pre.

Hate myself for asking but - should i buy?

Hey guys, like i said in in the title (and having been on xda for a while) I hate myself for posting a "should i buy" thread, but i think i must have missed something.
As far as i see it the vega has pretty much the same spec as tablets double its price (thinking xoom / eee transforma) and yet the only difference i can see is the shipped android version and 1.2ghs processor vs 1.0ghz in the vega.
I have a HD2 and am happy flashing and running custom roms (running Android on my HD2) so as far as I see it i can get honeycomb flashed in the not too distant future when the boys finish the ROM build and just overclock to 1.4ghz and I am away.
And here in lies my question really, is the touchscreen nice to use? Whats the viewing angle like? HDMI out actually any good in the real world? Anyone use the tablet for work and not just media?
I would like to be able to use an openoffice / MS application on my tablet and if i could connect it up to projectors/tvs via hdmi for presentations and media that would be a real bonus - but only if it actually looks decent and works well.
Thanks for the time taken to read this, I am serious about buying but dont want to waste cash on the vega if people think the eee transforma would be more suitable.
Thanks;
Andy

is the touchscreen nice to use?
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Yes
Whats the viewing angle like?
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Not enough
HDMI out actually any good in the real world?
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Yes, it's good
I would like to be able to use an openoffice / MS application on my tablet and if i could connect it up to projectors/tvs via hdmi for presentations and media that would be a real bonus - but only if it actually looks decent and works well.
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There is no OO (or LibreOffice or MS office) at all/ There is Google Docs and Pixel Office

Thanks for such a quick reply. Google docs is fine i think but does it work offline on the tablet ok? Whats pixcel office like?
Battery life about as advertised (8hours)
Sorry for rippling questions in, i guess im just trying to work out what i would get extra for over twice the cash in a xoom / eee.

The key difference in price seems to be tied to screen quality and what the big names think they can get away with charging. Clearly the Motorola has a much better screen display than the Vega. However, for the price, the Vega is great for trying things out. There are a number of different user ROM's available and you can see how to push the technology without worrying about messing up your 'expensive' tablet. Also the Vega is UNBRICKABLE.
I use QuickOffice HD on the Vega and find it able to cope with MS Office 2010 Docs and Spreadsheets with no major issues.

I usee quickoffice works a treat also corvus and newbe5 have created a honeycomb port which is still in progress but something to look towards to if you buy one

Thanks for the answers guys. Im actually in a position to buy one vat free at the moment so with the latest dixons price thats £160 for a 10in tablet. Im kind of finding it hard to tell myself the xoom screen would be worth the extra £300 but you guys have the advent what do you think?
Also, whats the max internal storage i can get 16gb microsd? Will USB thumb drives autmount when inserted?
And can you charge the advent via usb?
(I should say im out of the uk at the moment hence why i cant see the advent but can get vat free - gives with one hand..)
Thanks

I have an old-batch Vega, with a worse screen, and I'm not unhappy with it (it can be testy, but it works). The new batch has better screens, more responsive, so the main qualm against the device is partially deflected. For 160 punds you cannot go wrong: it's a super-budget price for a quite capable tablet. Right now there are new smartphones which are not up to the horsepower of an Advent Vega. And if you overclock it... oh boy. 1,4 Ghz at your service. Believe me, the Advent Vega is a steal.

I am running with a 32GB Micro SDHC which I think is the max it can take. You need to get the system into USB Host mode, which needs some changes either to the stock rom, or use one of the very good alternate roms, if you want to plug a USB Stick onto it, but you shouldn't have the need.
I don't think the Xoom is worth the extra at the moment while I am still assessing whether the tablet is an indispensable device for daily use. I do use the Vega daily though and find the screen fine if a little tight on brightness and viewing angle.
There is an over-clock kernel available here now that also gets the Vega to out-perform the Xoom.

32gb would be perfect - and im pretty much mind made up.
Custom ROM
32GB Micro
Overclock to 1.2 as a starter for 10
Android 3 when the boys get round to finishing it.
Thanks for all of your help / comments

I´m sorry to borrow your topic but I´m also considering buying this device (or POV Mobii since they pretty much share the same hardware) and no doubt that all this replies help make me rest assured that this is the best low budget tablet around, however I just cannot find a way to order this to Portugal.
I tried Amazon (only shows POV Mobii and for 280 pounds (!) which makes me feel like i´m being robbed) Ebay and other known on-line shops to no success.
Can anyone tell me where can I order this device (and identical ones as told before) on-line within EU? The ones I come across with at Ebay are from UK and none of them ship to Portugal, which is a shame.
Although I have the possibility I refuse to pay 500€+ for a device that otherwise would cost half if there was none of this tablet hype thingy messing with the markets (Shame on you Mr. Jobs).
Any help is appreciated guys.
Thank you,
Mix

Hi Badmix.
You can try to order the PoV Mobii Tegra from Amazon.de .. I don't know about the shipping to Portugal, but the Price in DE is 280€. Just try it if the price is ok for you
best regards

£160 !?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
JUST BUY it... just buy it now... don't waste the chance!!!
It's an absolutely steal!!!
32Gb - no problem (I have 16gb and don't use it all)
overclock? - Corvus 1.5Ghz done.
USB drive, mouse n keyboard? - custom kernel (needs reboot) or use the dock station (as I do)

BadMix said:
I´m sorry to borrow your topic but I´m also considering buying this device (or POV Mobii since they pretty much share the same hardware) and no doubt that all this replies help make me rest assured that this is the best low budget tablet around, however I just cannot find a way to order this to Portugal.
I tried Amazon (only shows POV Mobii and for 280 pounds (!) which makes me feel like i´m being robbed) Ebay and other known on-line shops to no success.
Can anyone tell me where can I order this device (and identical ones as told before) on-line within EU? The ones I come across with at Ebay are from UK and none of them ship to Portugal, which is a shame.
Although I have the possibility I refuse to pay 500€+ for a device that otherwise would cost half if there was none of this tablet hype thingy messing with the markets (Shame on you Mr. Jobs).
Any help is appreciated guys.
Thank you,
Mix
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If you are still unclear, Advent are a firm under the Currys/PCWorld brand and only operate in the UK.
If you can find someone who is willing to buy for you (for a 'fee' maybe), then that is prob the best way to go.
Hope this helps.

Thank you for the helpful replies.
I just ordered from a German shop the POV Mobii Tegra for 236£ (270€) and I am pretty sure that I could not have done a better deal for the amount of money i was willing to spend.
Next step: buying a decent case to give my new investment the biggest life spawn possible.
Cheers guys once again.
Mix

Anyone know where to get this less then £200 in the UK
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Ebay have a fair few if you want nearly new.
Other than that dixons group have the monopoly on this item sadly.

Okay thanks, another question that is keeping me from buying this is that I'm wondering whether the Vega has multitouch problems like the desire and nexus one, also has anyone played games like Nova and how does it run and is it playable with the multitouch.

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I have an old-batch Vega, with a worse screen
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Is there a way to tell whether a Vega is of the old or the new batch with the nicer screen?
Asking because there is a used one that I am considering.
Thank you!

Give me some reasons why I should get a Xoom and trade my iPad 2

I want to hear from Xoom users some advantages on getting the Xoom. I currently have an iPad 2 and it's cool but there is no JB for it yet. I saw some articles on Google IO today and was amazed at the USB host support which would make it awesome for emulators.
What are some advantages you guys think would be? I currently own an Evo so I'm familiar with Android. I'm more interested in knowing the cool things you can do with it. I found someone in CL who is interested in trading his Xoom for my iPad 2. Thanks.

Reason #1, it gets you away from Kool-Aide drinking mac-bots who think everything has to be white.

Anyone else have a constructive response?

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I want to hear from Xoom users some advantages on getting the Xoom. I currently have an iPad 2 and it's cool but there is no JB for it yet. I saw some articles on Google IO today and was amazed at the USB host support which would make it awesome for emulators.
What are some advantages you guys think would be? I currently own an Evo so I'm familiar with the Evo. I'm more interested in knowing the cool things you can do with it. I found someone in CL who is interested in trading his Xoom for my iPad 2. Thanks.
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Those of us who show our loyalty to google will be rewarded with land and women once the takeover is complete.
Additionally, flash is neat, USB hosting, I'm fairly siked about google music. Greater customization. I'd wait to see how 3.1 runs but it looks very promising in the dev notes.

you are not bound to itunes, you can customize your UI, your notifications wont interrupt you, its positioned to be compatible with a ****load of other devices, hdmi ready, amazon and sony love android

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How is that not contructive? Apple confines you to their standards. Time to open up and do what the user wants to do....Coca-cola taste a ton better than Kool-Aide

Best advice I can give you is just read the reviews and see if you like it. Seriously read up.
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Upcoming ice cream sandwich!
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http://cameradojo.com/2011/04/20/my-take-on-android-tablets-vs-ipad/

dunno why you need convincing ... just check out the features and play with one at a best buy.

Is Google Body available for the Xoom? I'm interested in that. I'll still have my 1st gen iPad so I don't mind trading it in. Are their any cool things you can do with it like connecting bluetooth devices, etc?
One thing I hate about the iPad 2 is the camera. I took a picture of my daughter up close and it was so blurry I thought she was a UFO. I think it's rated at under 1MP.

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dunno why you need convincing ... just check out the features and play with one at a best buy.
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I played with one at Best Buy but it was molested beyond recognition. There was so much stuff scattered all over the screen I didn't have the patience to look through it. I wanted input from someone who owns it and has played with it for over a month.
Are the apps catching up? What I mean by this is are there a lot of tablet apps out yet or just phone apps.

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Is Google Body available for the Xoom? I'm interested in that. I'll still have my 1st gen iPad so I don't mind trading it in. Are their any cool things you can do with it like connecting bluetooth devices, etc?
One thing I hate about the iPad 2 is the camera. I took a picture of my daughter up close and it was so blurry I thought she was a UFO. I think it's rated at under 1MP.
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see, something you could have easily checked online Google Body is one of the "made for Honeycomb" apps. It was released along with the XOOM.

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I played with one at Best Buy but it was molested beyond recognition. There was so much stuff scattered all over the screen I didn't have the patience to look through it. I wanted input from someone who owns it and has played with it for over a month.
Are the apps catching up? What I mean by this is are there a lot of tablet apps out yet or just phone apps.
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Plenty of tablet apps and "tegra HD" apps available.
Also, pretty much every app I've tried that didn't specify Honeycomb support worked anyways. the "HD" games are spectacular (youtube "pinball HD honeycomb" ... it's 2.99 USD (2.84 CDN haha) and it rocks.

multitasking, much better webexperience than safari, flash support
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Starting a thread like this is just to fan the flames of fanboyism. Don't come on this forum and try to stoke fires. Go try them out and make your own decisions.

I actually purchased the Ipad 2 and received it about 2 weeks ago. It took me less than a week to call Apple and request and return package. I then went into Best buy and purchased a Xoom.
Here are the reasons why:
- FLASH: I watch videos online all the time, and most of them are sites that use flash
- Being able to just download a mp3, an image, or even videos right from the browser and save it wherever I want to
- Being able to open the downloaded file with the app I want
- Being able to connect my Xoom to my PC at work and transfer whatever file I want
- Being able to customize my homescreen to my liking
- Notifications
- Widgets (I just hated that fact that I always had to go to the settings to activate bluetooth or wi-fi for example
- Now with Honeycomb 3.1 announced, I'm really not regretting buying the Xoom

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I actually purchased the Ipad 2 and received it about 2 weeks ago. It took me less than a week to call Apple and request and return package. I then went into Best buy and purchased a Xoom.
Here are the reasons why:
- FLASH: I watch videos online all the time, and most of them are sites that use flash
- Being able to just download a mp3, an image, or even videos right from the browser and save it wherever I want to
- Being able to open the downloaded file with the app I want
- Being able to connect my Xoom to my PC at work and transfer whatever file I want
- Being able to customize my homescreen to my liking
- Notifications
- Widgets (I just hated that fact that I always had to go to the settings to activate bluetooth or wi-fi for example
- Now with Honeycomb 3.1 announced, I'm really not regretting buying the Xoom
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Thanks. I'm going to pull the trigger and do the trade. I still have an iPad 1st gen so I can fall back on the apps I love like Netflix. Hopefully they hack other OS's on the Xoom like Linux. Thanks for all the positive responses from the few of you who weren't just looking to increase your post count.
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In short, it's not quite a slick as the iPad 2 and there are nowhere near enough tablet specific apps, but imo the browser is better, it's more customizable, google maps is far better as is the multi-tasking. But you should know that HD videos will require re-encoding due to the Tegra2 chip and it's limitations.

I think the biggest reason you have already mentioned in your post.
Jail-break.
iPad2 is a Jail. It needs to be broken.
I used to be an iPhone user (3GS and 4G).
I am sick of being told you should do things this way and if you don't , you are screwed.
Xoom and all other android device brings me "freedom" in what I OWN.
Specifically in terms of functions
0. Flash
1. You get much better camera (5mp back, 2mp front facing)
2. You have the rights to root it, install customized roms/themes
3. You can install third party apps freely.
4. You can flash kernels to overclock your CPU to 1.5Ghz while iPad 2 is stuck at 1G max
5. You have strong Dev community to create stuff. as long as there is a need. Apparently it requires certain level of computer proficiency but from what you mentioned, you definitely have it.
6. You have google rolling out more and more exciting updates and with an open source concept, the market share of Android will bypass iOS by much and developer community will definitely notice this part of the market and create apps (commercial apps) around it.
7. many apps you know what is going on because you can see source code.
8. To someone who may worry that iPad apps are more than Honeycomb apps, I think at the current rate of brining new apps to platform, it wont be a problem a few months later at all.
9. Oh, you can install and dual boot Ubuntu in it.

Is this tablet a good Buy?

I'm debating on getting this tablet Android version or getting the Asus transformer mini(T102HA) Windows version.
Is the yoga book worth $399 or should I look into the ASUS?
As for usage I just need to be able to take notes, watch videos (YouTube, FreeflixHD,Koko time, ECT) check emails and web Browsing.
It would help to get some input from real users of the yoga book to help me narrow it down some..
Thanks in advance for your help..

That's an "apples and oranges" question, the answer to which depends how you feel about Android vs. Windows.
Speaking personally, I find the Windows tablet interface to be *horrible*; add in the much higher screen resolution on the YB, and I'll take the YB any day.
If you have to do any "real" work, however, I would prefer Windows (using the desktop interface, not the tablet interface) for the much wider range of software available and compatibility with peripherals such as printers.

Im leaning more towards an Android tablet or 2 in 1 like the the yogabook simple because I can do everything I need on a Android Device.

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Im leaning more towards an Android tablet or 2 in 1 like the the yogabook simple because I can do everything I need on a Android Device.
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I used to lug around in a 14.1 inch windows 10 notebook, but it got too heavy as the day went on. (I work out in the field)
Then I moved to a windows convertible netbook, and when I got the Yoga Book android, I have sinced used it on a daily basis, as I have migrated all my reports over to Google Docs so the interface on that is the same whether I'm on a Windows device or an android device as you use a browser anyways.
For quick local documents, Office for Android does its job. Though I admit, it is a bit easier on the netbook with physical keys and the familiarity of some windows apps (like paint and paint.net for example), but the portability is more than enough to make up for it, not to mention the proper layout of apps on the tablet interface of Android as compared to the Windows one.

I just saw the Android model YB1-X90F at Walmart for $249. Almost tempted to buy a second one at that price but it may go even lower considering Lenovo didn't properly push this to market which makes consumers think it is essentially no better than most other devices. I love mine. It is a tad heavier than most tabs but the Halo keyboard once you get used to using it seals the deal imho. Really like being able to take notes and draw on it as well. I cannot play my "Shield" only games (Nvidia Lightspeed Studio stuff) on it but for me that was a small price to pay to have an Android tablet that I can keep updated without losing major features. Otherwise it is powerful and plays everything else I enjoy without a hiccup.
Personally I played with the Windows version of this tab once and felt for the price the experience was less than stellar. Admittedly I didn't fuss to long.
One item to note for both, this is another personal preference item, but I despise the glare of the screen and immediately after buying this device installed a matte finish protector, much better.

MarkAllen said:
I just saw the Android model YB1-X90F at Walmart for $249. Almost tempted to buy a second one at that price but it may go even lower considering Lenovo didn't properly push this to market which makes consumers think it is essentially no better than most other devices. I love mine. It is a tad heavier than most tabs but the Halo keyboard once you get used to using it seals the deal imho. Really like being able to take notes and draw on it as well. I cannot play my "Shield" only games (Nvidia Lightspeed Studio stuff) on it but for me that was a small price to pay to have an Android tablet that I can keep updated without losing major features. Otherwise it is powerful and plays everything else I enjoy without a hiccup.
Personally I played with the Windows version of this tab once and felt for the price the experience was less than stellar. Admittedly I didn't fuss to long.
One item to note for both, this is another personal preference item, but I despise the glare of the screen and immediately after buying this device installed a matte finish protector, much better.
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Wow that's a great price I just saw it at my local Walmart for $399 but they may have not put up the correct prices as the sticker said the Android version was $499 and the Windows was $599 but then they had a bland tag that said $399? Confused yes

I have one still - couldn't get anyone to accept it from me as a gift (Lenovo has a poor rep around here). Went back to my sammy s10.5. BUT I take the yoga with me travelling: it's light and unobtrusive, good enough screen for airport video, and the sound is expecially good. Good for notes, except be careful with the keyboard if there is any movement: easily miiss keys.

Was this pricing online or in store?
MarkAllen said:
I just saw the Android model YB1-X90F at Walmart for $249. Almost tempted to buy a second one at that price but it may go even lower considering Lenovo didn't properly push this to market which makes consumers think it is essentially no better than most other devices. I love mine. It is a tad heavier than most tabs but the Halo keyboard once you get used to using it seals the deal imho. Really like being able to take notes and draw on it as well. I cannot play my "Shield" only games (Nvidia Lightspeed Studio stuff) on it but for me that was a small price to pay to have an Android tablet that I can keep updated without losing major features. Otherwise it is powerful and plays everything else I enjoy without a hiccup.
Personally I played with the Windows version of this tab once and felt for the price the experience was less than stellar. Admittedly I didn't fuss to long.
One item to note for both, this is another personal preference item, but I despise the glare of the screen and immediately after buying this device installed a matte finish protector, much better.
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05GT said:
Was this pricing online or in store?
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In store is where I saw it, actual device (at least two of them still) and price. I also can look up online and plug in my local store which does show the price of $249 but online states it is out of stock.
https://www.walmart.com/store/2694/...&dept_name=Electronics&query=lenovo+yoga+book

Search here:
https://brickseek.com/walmart-inventory-checker/?sku=106607294

$249 and you are doubting? Seriously?
Don't buy it, let others enjoy it...

jamespmi said:
$249 and you are doubting? Seriously?
Don't buy it, let others enjoy it...
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The price is really good. Just gotta find a store in my location that has them? Too bad Best Buy doesn't have it..

IMO I would skip it. It's utility is decent but there is minimal support from Lenovo and if you run into problems, your only option is to warranty repair it or factory reset. If you can't fix it with a reset, you can't fix it. Lenovo has not provided the necessary tools to reimage the device and start fresh. Not saying it's going to happen but if it does, you're out of luck. I would get a tablet from a manufacturer that is willing to invest at least some of their resources into supporting it. The update for Nougat isn't even scheduled until AFTER Android O drops. And I'm guessing given Lenovo's attention so far, that will probably be where the updates end.

Notasaurus said:
or factory reset
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Name ONE manufacturer handling it differently... ONE

jamespmi said:
Name ONE manufacturer handling it differently... ONE
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Nvidia and Huawei

jamespmi said:
Name ONE manufacturer handling it differently... ONE
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Off the top of my head Samsung, HTC, Google, all of them have software that allow you to re-image from a stock image. A factory reset won't fix corruption in the boot sector, or some types of malware. Right now I'm dealing with this very specific issue on mine. The latest update won't install because it failed the first time and now says there is something in the boot partition that doesn't match the old checksum. Sounds to me like it wrote the new boot and failed on the system update. But without a tool like Samsung Kies for my S7, I can't flash a clean image. Have an issue on my Pixel, phone or tablet and I can fastboot flash a nice clean image.

That's why I got the Windows Version. I don't see Android on Intel Motherboards. The hassle with a cropped Insyde Bios etc...
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something in the boot partition that doesn't match the old checksum.
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Write it new. Use Fastboot to rewrite the boot image...
Get one of the ROM's here in XDA, unpack it and flash each image manually so you can see if something goes wrong during the flashing...
This is are the steps I use on my Lenovo Tab. The boot image the last one to make sure none of the previous write on it...
Fastboot flash cache (cache.img)
Fastboot erase splash
Fastboot flash splash (splash.img)
Fastboot flash system (system.img)
Fastboot flash recovery (recovery.img)
Fastboot flash userdata (userdata.img)
Fastboot flash boot (boot.img)

That's the plan, and I can then understand if you have the windows version why you would recommend it. Honestly I was solidly behind even the Android version when I first got it. It's not until I ran into firmware issues that I realized how little effort Lenovo has put into support for the Android version. I have to pay $15 to Easy Firmware to get the software image. With the windows version all your updates will be handled by Microsoft and the system will be supported until it can't run the latest version of windows. And in that case I would recommend it as well.

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I have to pay $15 to Easy Firmware to get the software image
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Did you try the ones listed in this post?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72781619&postcount=6
I got the Windows Version mainly because as mentioned I don't see android on Intel Based Mainboards. I wanted a Wacom replacement for on the go. Networking with Android is just bull****. Yes I know there are solutions, but why the headache? I interchange data between the different Workstations to often so I avoid having all the hassle. Even tough everyone praises the Cloud, interchanging data with Windows is so much faster and comfortable... As soon as I have time I will even publish a trick how to use the Halo surface as external Wacom replacement over the network.

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rabilancia said:
Search here:
https://brickseek.com/walmart-inventory-checker/?sku=106607294
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Thanks! I can confirm the link. I just picked a brand new yoga book for 249 at Wal-Mart after reading your post.