Im all about performance. I partitioned my class 4 sd card and intalled DC v2.07. Had about 124mb's free memory but the phone was choppy. I wiped (not ext) and flashed DC v2.08 and now my phone is flying again but only have 27mbs free. I guess it stored the apps back to /System/app. So now my questions??
Will the phone perform as good as no a2sd if I get a class 6 sd card and use a2sd??
I guess with most people we just want to store apps in our sd card without loosing any performance.
Storing apps on your SDcard is fine, but you are asking the phone to do one more step in the grand scheme of things. Just another gate for data to pass through, so even with a class 6 SD card there is more than likely an ammount of slow down you could measure.
Personally I have an 8 Gb Trascend Class 6 and have apps2sd running, its just fine for me. No choppyness at all.
Most of the issue you are experiencing is having dalvik-cache on your sd card.
It should be fine with a class 6. A class 4 depends on the card. Would not recommend dalvik-cache on a class 2.
And, your software is stored in /data/app and data/app-private. /system/app is for core programs and is not moved in a2sd.
energizer1389 said:
Im all about performance. I partitioned my class 4 sd card and intalled DC v2.07. Had about 124mb's free memory but the phone was choppy. I wiped (not ext) and flashed DC v2.08 and now my phone is flying again but only have 27mbs free. I guess it stored the apps back to /System/app. So now my questions??
Will the phone perform as good as no a2sd if I get a class 6 sd card and use a2sd??
I guess with most people we just want to store apps in our sd card without loosing any performance.
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I installed my new transcend class 6 microsd card. Partitioned and used ext3. Moved apps and dalvik to sd and it runs fine. Im happy now. I have 110 free mbs.
I have an 8GB class 2 sandisk and I have had no problem nor any slowdown having apps2sd installed and having the dalvik cache installed as well. I keep looking around for a faster card, would like a 16GB, but when it comes down to it, with not having problems there is no real need to upgrade. Even though I really want one, if for nothing but bragging rights.
jlem26 said:
I have an 8GB class 2 sandisk and I have had no problem nor any slowdown having apps2sd installed and having the dalvik cache installed as well. I keep looking around for a faster card, would like a 16GB, but when it comes down to it, with not having problems there is no real need to upgrade. Even though I really want one, if for nothing but bragging rights.
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Don't forget that the Class of the card is rated based on the write speed. The read speed is what affects us the most when loading apps and a combination of the two when using the cache.
The read speed can be higher or lower based on the make of the card. Some name-brand Class 4 cards can read faster than the cheap Class 6 cards.
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I was just wondering would the sd card that the hero comes with (2gb) be worth it to parition it for A2SD?
thats what im using have about 40 something apps on it
Absolutely worth it. I was getting low space warnings without a2sd, but I'm running just fine now.
If you're one who loads a lot of music and video on your phone, you'll probably want to upgrade to a larger card anyway, but if you don't fill it up with that sort of thing, then you can install a2sd and still have plenty of space left for other things.
question: doesent a2sd fry your sd card overtime?
It's not so much the size you should be worried about, it's the speed. You want a class 4 or better, preferably class 6, 8 or 10.
Hello All I have a very simple question but plays a very important role in performance.
I got a 2GB SD CARD FROM SAMSUNG.
I have another LOCAL SD CARD 4GB
My question is will the SPEED Remain same to transfer or access data from both these SD CARDS.
I mean to say is will the LOCAL SD CARD BE SLOWER(since its not samsung branded) IN ACCESSING AND RETRIEVING DATA which will eventually slow down my phone or something like that.
I hope you all understood my question..will elaborate if u want me to.
hoping for a good answer.
Thanks
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cumon guys a small opinion would make a big difference
I am not very knowledgeable about this, but the class of the SD card matters when comparing performance. Here is a link that might help:
http://www.sdcard.org/developers/tech/speed_class/
i have noticed that when i changed sd card from samsung original (came with phone) to new transcend 8gb sd card, phone is now booting for 5 minutes....
It being a samsung card doesn't make the card more "compatible" with a samsung phone. A card is defined by the card, not by the brand.
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i have noticed that when i changed sd card from samsung original (came with phone) to new transcend 8gb sd card, phone is now booting for 5 minutes....
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yeah so it means that performance has degraded right.
Also i think booting is not much worry as its done from ROM
so apart from booting what else is buggy or degrading performance,comparing both 2 GB and 8 GB
its on a card to card basis, if it is slower for him it doesnt mean it will be slower for you.
You should use a Class 6 SD card. Slower cards are not adequate.
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You can use a class 6 SD card, however, i do not think the phone is capable of handling such high speed cards, and thus the read/write speed of the phone will limit the speed.
Conclusively i don't think there will be an increase in performance!
Does any one have the problem?
When I forgot to insert the SD card when flashing WP7, the market downloads were blazing fast. Unfortunately I had to reset the phone with the card in place and after that, now the downloads are crawling.
Do you know why? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
maybe it's because MicroSD memory is usually slower than Nand memroy.
Idk if by upgrading to a higher sdcard class will improve performance, but if u have another memory card around (with has different Class or Brand) why don't you test it with the market apps downloads and come back and tell us if u noticed any changes in performance?
no no no no,
righty, first things first, try reflashing with the SD in, it shouldnt make any difference over a hard reset but its worth the shot.
the reason its slow assuming the above doesnt work is because your SD card isnt compatible, there is some evidance that formatting the SD card in a digital camera has some effect but i think the best performance comes from cards that work from the outset.
note there isnt any list of compatibe cards, DO NOT assume that any card "recomended" by anyone will work.
statistically you have a better chance with a class 2 or 4 card, but that doesnt mean a class 6 or 10 wont work, no brand of card is above this issue, sandisk suffer just as much as the next brand.
in short, its luck if you can get one that works or not, theres nothing else too other than try sticking to class 2 or 4.
oh if your running a class 2 card fine, dont assume a class 4 will be quicker, it might not, it just depends on teh card...and a spot of luck1
Thanks for the reply!
I have the stock sandisk class 2 card that came with the phone. I think it might be similar to when Android was on SD card and the market downloads were really slow too. But after RAM builds and NAND builds came along, the dolwnloads happen blazingly fast.
Anyway, thanks for replying
I'm running deeperblue's honeycomb off an 8gb sd card on my Nook Color. Everything runs extremely slow, even things as simple as checking email, accessing the web, etc.
Any suggestions?
nking79 said:
I'm running deeperblue's honeycomb off an 8gb sd card on my Nook Color. Everything runs extremely slow, even things as simple as checking email, accessing the web, etc.
Any suggestions?
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Try a different SD card. Cheaper cards are generally better for running a rom because they have a faster small block read/write speed. More expensive cards are better in nearly every other aspect then what you're trying to do. I run HC (Madcat's Hybird) of a class 2 4GB Sandisk card (about $15 at Wal Mart) and it runs great. My wife's running CM7 off an identical card. Both are perfect.
I'm running HC off a PNY 8GB class 4 card, which was $24 from Best Buy. Maybe I should try to format the card and start over? Should I install CM7 on the card as well? Not sure of the process to follow - can you provide a link?
I'll bet you need a different MicroSD card to solve your performance issue, as hockeyfamily737 mentioned above.
See this thread: SD Strange-results - or - How I learned to love CM7 on SD
to find out why.
This software : Crystal Disk Mark is what we are using to test card speed.
Office Max is having a sale on SanDisk class 2/4 MicroSD cards, 8 gig size, for 12.99 a piece until saturday, might want to see if there's one around you.
Having been in the situation you are in, the MicroSD card used makes a significant difference.
Also, try downloading the app "SD Speed Increase" by Diego Stamigni. Setting the cache size to 2048kb can dramatically improve performance on the card you are using now. It's one of my must-have apps for running android from the SD card on the Nook.
Edited to add:
I used to run the same honeycomb version you are, but I swapped over to Dualboot Phiremod / Honeycomb Image. I run it from the sdcard, and the phiremod version of cm7 is my new daily-driver. It's a great image, you might want to check it out.
also honeycomb isnt fully reeased for AOSP so the nook version is just a port of the SDK, also maybe try a class 6 sd card? you can get a class 6 8gig for like $18 of amazon, i use a class 6 and its very fast
I have a Nook Color that is rooted running CyanogenMod 7.1.0 on internal memory. I have a 16GB Class 10 SD Card in it and was wondering what people are using for partitions on their SD Cards. I have pushed pretty much every app over to SD Card but some (not all) applications (Google Maps for instance) seem really sluggish and many times it force closes.
Is the Nook just not powerful enough to run Google Maps or is there something I need to adjust? Maybe a bigger swap partition? I set them up quite a while ago and don't recall what I set them to off the top of my head.
Using CyanogenMod I am overclocked to 1.2GHz with the Governor set to Performance.
VM heap size set to 48MB.
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class 10 cards are not as good as you'd think for any Android device. Android devices tend to write smaller files... a class 4 card (Sandisk recommended) is actually best for these devices.
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class 10 cards are not as good as you'd think for any Android device. Android devices tend to write smaller files... a class 4 card (Sandisk recommended) is actually best for these devices.
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I am mainly using Class 10 as that is what I had laying around in the Micro SD Card Format.
I have a 32 GB Class 4 in my Thunderbolt and it is fine. Do you really think it would slow it down much if it is Class 10? I could always toss it in an adapter and use it in my Canon T3i.
This thread here explains what the issue is and will tell you how to test your cards out to see if they'll work. Basically that Class10 card only gets Class 10 speeds when transferring large files and for small files (like an OS/app uses to write temp files) you get crap speed. it's not normally noticed in everyday use because the files are small and a little delay writing it isn't noticed by the user. Class 4 cards from SanDisk seem to be overall performers for files of all sizes.
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This thread here explains what the issue is and will tell you how to test your cards out to see if they'll work. Basically that Class10 card only gets Class 10 speeds when transferring large files and for small files (like an OS/app uses to write temp files) you get crap speed. it's not normally noticed in everyday use because the files are small and a little delay writing it isn't noticed by the user. Class 4 cards from SanDisk seem to be overall performers for files of all sizes.
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Hmm, that is interesting. Now does it matter that I am booting off internal memory? I am not dual booted and have CyanogenMod on internal memory. I am running Google Maps which is one of the programs that is really slow on internal memory. My guess is that what you are saying would apply because of the swap space being used on the SD card. I will say that my wife also has a Nook Color that I put my old 8GB Class 6 card from my old Nexus One in and hers seems to perform a little faster than mine. I haven't done the tweaks to VM heap size to hers that seems to have helped mine a little. So you may be on to something. I have a couple of these class 10 cards that I use on my Camera and have been happy with them. I think they are Samsung. The DSLR is 18MP so those files are pretty big so it might be just better to leave those cards for use there and get a couple of those SanDisk Class 4 cards for our Nooks.
Yeah, running apps from the sd would benefit from a fast sd card. When you get one, use CrystalDiskMark (pc) to check the 4k read/write speeds. I bought an 8gb and two 16gb Sandisk class 4 cards from Radio Shack that have reasonable speeds and work well. They're all in the .5 range for writes - not as good as some I've heard of, but they work well! Some (a Kingston and a knockoff Sandisk) I tested were as low as .006! I tried to use the Kingston before I tested its speed and got lots of instability and FCs. hth
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