Anyone else prefer the Gmail mobile web app? - Nexus One General

I really hope that Google starts improving the Gmail app on Android soon as it feels pretty lackluster compared with the mobile Gmail web app. I just find that everything looks and feels nicer on the web version than the native app.
A couple things I like better about the HTML version:
- Colour scheme is much nicer. The app is very bland.
- Copy and Paste is possible.
- When replying, quoted text is editable.
- If you have Gmail checking a POP account for you, replying to those emails sends from the correct account.
I'm still using the full app though as it loads faster (once loaded it doesn't seem a whole lot faster though), provides notifications and is the only way you can add attachments. I hope the Gmail team starts improving the native app at a similar pace to the web version.

a couple apps that may help you with your gmail app, even though you didn't mention these as an issue:
blackmoon attachsave - lets you save attachments to the sd card, not just view them
file sender - lets you attach any file to send

i absolutely agree with you.. gmail app needs to be improved..
another lack i'd like to say is that for older messages you can only read the day it was sent without the time!

But I have heard that this is the best gmail application on any platform. I'm not an email heavy person but it works fine for what I need to do and never had to say, "I wish I could do this" or, "I wish this was better."

I think Google has put all app improvements/updates on hold for now, such as the Gmail app and the obvious Music app.
Most likely they are waiting for FroYo, which is rumored to separate the Google Apps from Android's framework. Then they can update the app whenever they feel like without a new Android version (like they have done with Google Maps) and anyone on any Android version can download/update the app as they please.
I can't wait for FroYo. Along with full Flash 10.1 and rumors of all these new features, it's sure to be a major game changer.

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Facebook opens mobile site instead of touch

I had this issue on my myTouch as well but when I get an email from facebook saying someone has commented on a post I made or something similar and I click it I get sent to the ugly mobile site and it just loads the live feed not the actual post. I just wanted to know if there was any fix for this or if it could load the touch site instead (or even better the app) so I don't have to wait to go to my desktop or look though posts in the app since the notifications don't work on the Nexus One yet.
Yeah mine does it sporadically. I haven't used it for a couple of days but maybe it has to be in the current processes list/ list of current applications for it to recognise it, else it opens the browser. Just a suggestion.
The whole notification thing really irritates me. You'd think since it comes with the phone, they would at least check that it works ¬¬
Well the web address sent to you in your email is from facebook.com and it is a http link to the full web site, facebook doesn't know that you're viewing this from your phone. gmail/email on the phone is going to treat these links the same, there's nothing built into the formatting or platform to make these 'special'.
I would recommend you disable email notifications on facebook, and configure notifications within the facebook app. This should get you the behavior you desire.
Ok so since i've fixed my facebook notification issue I actually hate the facebook app. Seriously, what app shows a notification which you have to open via an external link? I thought that was the point of the app? The facebook mobile website is atrocious, and i'd actually prefer to open it in web view rather than mobile view, since that's the point of a smartphone.
I hate to bring it up but even the iPhone did a better job. Almost everything could be done through the app. Almost.
that aint the phones fault its the app developers lol
bofslime said:
Well the web address sent to you in your email is from facebook.com and it is a http link to the full web site, facebook doesn't know that you're viewing this from your phone. gmail/email on the phone is going to treat these links the same, there's nothing built into the formatting or platform to make these 'special'.
I would recommend you disable email notifications on facebook, and configure notifications within the facebook app. This should get you the behavior you desire.
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To anyone having some problems, the best workaround I can find is using Dolphin Browser and changing the User Agent to iPhone. This will automatically pull up touch.facebook.com

Default facebook

Is there any way to change the default facebook app/url. In People, if i select someone and tap one of their updates in the "updates and events" section it will jump to m.facebook.com to show me more detail.
Can i change it so that instead it goes to the android facebook app or to touch.facebook.com which i think is a much nicer mobile version of facebook.
Thanks
I wonder if it has anything to do with application defaults...wether or not the android facebook app has that type of OS integration. It obv does when wanting to post a picture from your photo gallery, but since people is an HTC specific app IDK if there is a way around this.
However, I would love to be told different as its annoying to keep on having to launch browser when there is a perfectly good facebook app laying around on the phone.
Precisely. Especially because the facebook application doesnt display event details or request and then navigates you to the horrible mobile facebook when touch.facebook.com can handle it all perfectly and look pretty decent too.

Gmail vs email app

Does anyone else find it a little strange that on a google phone that the standard email app allows you to pinch and zoom in emails, but the gmail app (or the mobile site for that matter) don't?! If I get an email with a large embedded image there seems to be no way to do this.
On a separate note, why has the third swype page with the cursor arrows gone? That was really useful when you're trying to navigate through text?
Nicolopolus said:
Does anyone else find it a little strange that on a google phone that the standard email app allows you to pinch and zoom in emails, but the gmail app (or the mobile site for that matter) don't?! If I get an email with a large embedded image there seems to be no way to do this.
On a separate note, why has the third swype page with the cursor arrows gone? That was really useful when you're trying to navigate through text?
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I agree they never allow gmail application to zoom i don't understand why !
the built in email app is just a stripped down version of k9mail which has more features.. recommend you try it.
May I add that it's frustrating that you cannot copy/paste text from the Gmail app?
It seems to me that some of the stock Google applications like the browser and gmail are left very vanilla - maybe, in the belief that 3rd party apps will fill the gap - maybe, that will be some of what they will be working on for Gingerbread (since they are claiming it will have a focus on user experience).
lgkahn said:
the built in email app is just a stripped down version of k9mail which has more features.. recommend you try it.
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Just quick question
Does the K9 Mail app allow for multiple Signatures for the different emails.
Currently the Samsung Email only allows one signature for all accounts which is a step back from my Blackberry.
This multiple-app thing is exactly why the iPhone does so well...
It's not a positive when you've got two programs that do the same thing out of the box.
I realize Google doesn't have much control over this, and even if they improved their stuff that Samsung/ATT/etc would probably put all their crap on it regardless. I'm just saying there's an advantage to the iPhone found here.

Any experience with TouchDown for Tablets on the XOOM ?

Does anybody tried to use TouchDown for Tablets in the XOOM ?, does it work OK ?, thanks
http://www.nitrodesk.com/bigscreen.aspx
Best email program out there if you use Exchange. Nothing even comes close. This email program was the nail in my iPad's coffin.
Its pretty good. Way better than the native email app for exchange.
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I use it everyday. Works great.
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I have both RoadSync and Touchdown, and Touchdown is the best, hands down. It looks good and offers better end user configuration such as the ability to delete or not delete a message from the server when deleted on the device AND the option of not marking.the message as read on the server. I have it installed on my Xoom and Incredible. RoadSync is just a little rough around the edges, but it did work on my Xoom as well.
I uninstalled it. Too many crashes while composing and does not support drafts folder. Support said they are working hard to improve stability on Xoom and they were the ones to tell me it doesn't support the drafts folder - when you save message as draft, nothing shows up in drafts folder, although you can get to it with the drafts button displayed when you are composing a new message.
it actully works really well!
While I prefer the looks of the default exchange client it doesn't come close to the functionality of TouchDown. I highly recommend it!
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Tried it...then uninstalled
I have three Exchange accounts, each of which requires a separate Touchdown profile because Touchdown does not support multiple Exchange accounts within a single profile. Accounts in the off-line profiles are not updated. Further, switching between profiles often causes the application to crash.
Customer support is great!
My biggest disappointment was that I cannot see the folder structure of my exchange account. I contacted support and they were very responsive. If anyone is interested here's what I wrote and the reply:
ME:
Dear support,
I downloaded the trial version of TouchDown upon recommendation in a forum. So far I am not really that impressed with the offered features. I was wondering if that is just a matter of updates until this will change:
1. On the main screen it reads "Emails: x (n unread) and
Appointment(s): y. Why can't I get to the emails/calendar when I tap on the summary info?
2. I haven't found a way to browse my exchange folders. I am sure that's a mistake on my behalf but it shouldn't be that hard to figure out!
3. Is there a way to (de)select all emails and delete/move them instead of clicking one after the other?
I understand that this is a new product for tablets but if I were to spend $20 on it I would like to see more features.
Thanks for listening!
SUPPORT:
Are you working on a Xoom? Are you saying that you see the email list but when you select and email it doesn't open? Or that you can't get to the Inbox?
You can choose what folders on Exchange to sync by going to settings>advanced>choose folders. Select what email folders you want to sync there. We are not a browser. We sync mail and you read it, forward etc...
There is a menu>more>select all function in the Inbox. You can then choose to delete or move.
Bottom line is that many features seem to be there but might be hidden and not intuitive. Don't think I'll pay $20 since I am fairly happy with the stock client.
The one thing I hate about touchdown is that he hasn't updated the UI since the days of Windows Mobile. It's just plain bad sometimes.
Bauxite said:
The one thing I hate about touchdown is that he hasn't updated the UI since the days of Windows Mobile. It's just plain bad sometimes.
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Agreed. The UI is painfully out-of-date. I banished it from my Xoom until they freshen up the design and usability.
I used Touchdown for a long time and it has by far has the most options. Tons O options. It was first to give you emails displayed as HTML instead of just text. The UI does need some refinement especially if using on a tablet (yes I know they have a tablet version now) and it is a hare buggy sometimes.
Since the Xoom I went back to just the stock email app. As it's faster/simpler than Touchdown and prettier. I don't like the fact that you can't tell the stock one to sync more than 30 days worth of emails though. (I have a couple saved folders, that I want it to sync all the saved emails in them). Plus the Stock calendar on the Xoom is much prettier than touchdowns calendar.
It Works
I'm using Touchdown and it works very well. It syncs my email, schedule and contacts. This is one of the apps that convinced me to keep the device.
Another touchdown user here, I'll agree with everyone else in that it's far more functional than the stock exchange client. I can deal with the UI because I go a free license from Moto.
Functional but in serious need of a facelift. Maybe one of our themers from XDA could take on the task.
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I've been using Touchdown since I moved to Android. It has its quirks, but I could never use the stock client since it doesn't support push to folders under the inbox. You have to manually sync those folders.
Coming from BlackBerry, it was the closest I could find to their email functionality (I still miss the email experience from my old 8830). They update pretty often. Buy the license from the market, but download the beta off the website. Just Google "Touchdown beta"

BBM, iMessage... what are the chances?

so since apple released whatever 'iMessage' for all apple products and its exclusive and what not, and all blackberry devices have BBM, how much do you gander android will release its own form of IM within the coming months before the release of icecream sandwich?
revamp of G-Talk... maybe? LOL that thing seriously need a big overhaul anyway.
a penny for your thoughts?
I personally like the idea of GTalk how it is now. They could just make sure its installed on every phone and maybe even put it on the first screen.
I like having it cross-platform and even available on the desktop.
Most of my friends have Android now, so more and more people are moving to GTalk.
I wish they would come out with a better desktop client though that'll do video rather than relying on the web one.
I think GTalk should be a feature they advertise more. Its already available on every Android phone, uses push for 2.2+ and works really well.
It would be cool
I would like to see google sync google talk across devices. Not sure if it could kill off SMS like everyone thinks though.
ethridgt said:
I would like to see google sync google talk across devices. Not sure if it could kill off SMS like everyone thinks though.
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The nice thing is that it uses Jabber, so there's lots of clients out there that will support it...all with their own feature sets. So its easily cross-platform, just not always the official app.
I think iMessage is going to be hugely popular as it looks like it's built right into the normal SMS messaging application in iOS and is going to be automaticly used any time you are sending a message to another iPhone user. Once people get used to using the combined messaging app, it's going to be nearly impossible to convince iPhone users to install a 3rd party chat app.
I now think it makes sense for RIM to open up BBM to other platforms, as they have the best chance of getting people to install their app, and if they are going to lose customers to iPhones and Androids (which is clearly happening), it would be in their best interest to at least keep them as BBM users.
Frankly, Google really dropped the ball by not seeing what a big problem all of these propietary chatting protocols are going to be for alternative mobile platforms. Many people in places like Canada (where blackberry and BBM are very popular) fear switching from blackberry as it means giving up all of your BBM contacts, and it's going to be the same thing for iPhone users soon. We needed an open spec protocol like XMPP to be the dominant protocol so that anyone can make a client for any device, but there are parts of Google Talk that just don't meet what people are looking for.
Google Talk needs at least the following, in my opinion:
- Remove the ability to log out
- Delivery (and maybe read) status for messages
- Improved group chat (currently the implementation is clumsy and inconsistent)
- Improved media transfers (photos and videos, but also contacts and locations)
- Combine SMS and Google Talk applications into one messaging super app, like iMessage.
The biggest problem with Google talk is its currently not widely available on every android phone.
Google doesn't need to revamp gtalk. It just needs to make Disco the default messaging program like Apple has done with iMessage. It would need to add MMS and remove the requirement for creating groups before sending messages but I can't imaging either would be too difficult to do before ICS is released.
http://techcrunch.com/2011/05/23/google-disco-2/
Been wishing this was in gtalk since 1.6. I dont think they need to combine it with the SMS app if they keep the green circle next the contacts name when they are signed on in Gtalk.
If they updated the BB and IOS apps to work with the new Gtalk apps it could dominate. But like google maps with navigation, they reserve group chats and video chatting to the web client and android users.
http://www.cultofmac.com/androids-going-to-help-apples-imessage-kill-off-sms/99831
PrawnPoBoy said:
I think iMessage is going to be hugely popular as it looks like it's built right into the normal SMS messaging application in iOS and is going to be automaticly used any time you are sending a message to another iPhone user. Once people get used to using the combined messaging app, it's going to be nearly impossible to convince iPhone users to install a 3rd party chat app.
I now think it makes sense for RIM to open up BBM to other platforms, as they have the best chance of getting people to install their app, and if they are going to lose customers to iPhones and Androids (which is clearly happening), it would be in their best interest to at least keep them as BBM users.
Frankly, Google really dropped the ball by not seeing what a big problem all of these propietary chatting protocols are going to be for alternative mobile platforms. Many people in places like Canada (where blackberry and BBM are very popular) fear switching from blackberry as it means giving up all of your BBM contacts, and it's going to be the same thing for iPhone users soon. We needed an open spec protocol like XMPP to be the dominant protocol so that anyone can make a client for any device, but there are parts of Google Talk that just don't meet what people are looking for.
Google Talk needs at least the following, in my opinion:
- Remove the ability to log out
- Delivery (and maybe read) status for messages
- Improved group chat (currently the implementation is clumsy and inconsistent)
- Improved media transfers (photos and videos, but also contacts and locations)
- Combine SMS and Google Talk applications into one messaging super app, like iMessage.
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+1, I totally agree with you.
It really has to be promoted. I have a lot of friends with Android devices whom doesn't even know that Gtalk exists, it's a real pain. It needs the option to login with a kind of a "PIN" maybe just like RIM has.
VicToR_AC said:
+1, I totally agree with you.
It really has to be promoted. I have a lot of friends with Android devices whom doesn't even know that Gtalk exists, it's a real pain. It needs the option to login with a kind of a "PIN" maybe just like RIM has.
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why use a pin though? that just creates more hassle for everyone. why not just tell them to add your gaccount which has everything integrated... your number/whatever you want to share.
FaithCry said:
why use a pin though? that just creates more hassle for everyone. why not just tell them to add your gaccount which has everything integrated... your number/whatever you want to share.
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Because as I can see, some of my friends with an Android device don't even use Gmail accounts, and there's when the problem using Gtalk begin!
VicToR_AC said:
Because as I can see, some of my friends with an Android device don't even use Gmail accounts, and there's when the problem using Gtalk begin!
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Fair enough...but then are you telling me they aren't downloading any apps from the market then? And thus not optimizing the android system already? Because if they can access the market they should be able to use g chat ...
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For it to work, any message system has to integrate with the default messaging app. Otherwise, it will be a failure. Apple did get iMessage right by integrating it with the sms app and make using it automatic (without any user input to setup).
^wait, so how does the phone know if the receiver is an iOS user and that the receiver has an internet connection? For iPads, there are no phone numbers associated with the devices. So how does iMessage integrate with the SMS app?
Currently you can see if the person is on gtalk in the SMS app by a green dot next to their name. That seems perfectly fine by me.
NexusDro said:
^wait, so how does the phone know if the receiver is an iOS user and that the receiver has an internet connection? For iPads, there are no phone numbers associated with the devices. So how does iMessage integrate with the SMS app?
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Actually, even iPad 3G users have a phone number (it just isn't visible to the user). My guess is it will do contact matching (which will check the contact's email against itunes accounts and the phone number). The phone number will probably be automatically registered to your account when you login to your phone with your itunes account. So it isn't hard to do that simple matching.
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Currently you can see if the person is on gtalk in the SMS app by a green dot next to their name. That seems perfectly fine by me.
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Which sms app? I don't see any green dots (or spaces for them) in the default app, or handcent.
I'm on CM7. Is this a feature in stock roms?
bozzykid said:
Actually, even iPad 3G users have a phone number (it just isn't visible to the user). My guess is it will do contact matching (which will check the contact's email against itunes accounts and the phone number). The phone number will probably be automatically registered to your account when you login to your phone with your itunes account. So it isn't hard to do that simple matching.
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But what if I switch between iphones and other phones all the time?
J.L.C. said:
Which sms app? I don't see any green dots (or spaces for them) in the default app, or handcent.
I'm on CM7. Is this a feature in stock roms?
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You can see who's online on Gtalk on the stock contact list.
NexusDro said:
You can see who's online on Gtalk on the stock contact list.
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Yep, you can. But the contact list isn't an sms app

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