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Hey all
I have a problem with my M3000, and it's pissing me off.
It seems as if the internal clock doesn't keep running once the screen is turned off.
Example:
I go to bed at 11.50pm, after setting the alarm to 06.00am, I turn the screen off and to go sleep. I wake up at 08.00am, angrily grab the phone, turn it on. In the upper right corner, the time of shut-down (11.50pm) is displayed for about 2 secs. Then it jumps to the actual time (08.00am) and the alarm starts ringing...
What the heck? I mean, this is something quite annoying, am I really the only one with that problem? Btw, my wife has the same model, bought it the same week, and has the exact same problem.
The orange people didn't know what to do. I never unlocked it or changed the rom, the phone is in original state.
Thanx for any help
RizzzO
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=43692
Anyone have experience with this? If i type words, press up/down, or pretty much do anything on the keyboard, from time to time the backlight will just turn off.
I've tried messing with pretty much all the backlight settings with no effect.. Anyone know of a fix for this?
SH4YD33 said:
Anyone have experience with this? If i type words, press up/down, or pretty much do anything on the keyboard, from time to time the backlight will just turn off.
I've tried messing with pretty much all the backlight settings with no effect.. Anyone know of a fix for this?
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Can't think of anything other than a loose internal connector. If you are more or less continuously typing with no long gaps then the light should not go off - even if it does then as soon as you type a letter it should come back on.
I would not try opening up or anything, before doing a hard reset - just to rule out a software issue. If you have lots installed then make a full backup first saves much time re-installing everything.
Mike
I've had the same problem.
different roms do it.
I'm sure it's a bug in the design of the keyboard circuit, or a software bug.
happens mainly when I type fast.
I have the same problem, Did you notice when you slide the phone open the screen rotates but the light takes a few seconds to turn on? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=314974
always happens when i start typing but then comes right back on... kinda annoying but does not really slow things down.
i've noticed this happening on certain roms, either when i've just flipped the keyboard out or start typing an email etc too fast.
agentp said:
i've noticed this happening on certain roms, either when i've just flipped the keyboard out or start typing an email etc too fast.
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Its happened on every WM6 rom that i've used.. didnt even have the original cingular rom on the phone long enough to see if it happened in WM5.. Not sure but it can be annoying when im trying to send quick texts.. etc
Guess there is no fix..
just got it
I've just got my 8525 monday, the 2nd, and i've noticed that as well as the hang after waking it up from sleep mode. I believe the keybrd issue is caused by the rom, since i only realized it does that after it sleep mode or i've been searching webpages for a while.
does anyone know of any good rom upgrades for a noobie?
this is annoying usually i can stop it if i turn the backlight time out off (which i normally have set on 30 second timeout)
yea i have the same issue if i am typing fast and it only happened once i started using wm6, it flickers off then back on seemingly randomly
Hello, greeting from Poland,
I have found out that same problem few days ago (Hermes=VarioII, WM5) alghougt I'm using Hermes few months. I think that I have found something interesting to be checked:
When you use hardware keyboard in Hermes, an input method is still set to the last used value.
I have notified that when I have input method set to 'Remote Keyboard' (a part of TranCreative software) there are no blacklight blackouts. Recently I was on holidays and set input method to standard 'Keyboard' and this is when this all begin.
Can any one confirm that?
If this is true - we know at least that this is software bug...
Kind regards,
MA
I have the same problem but it only happens at really high speed but it is really annoying and slows you down.
Yup, I have noticed this issue as well.
SAME HERE!
Kills my productivity, and need to type fast fast fast. Type fast, light goes off for a few secs. Sux.
same here...dont really care it comes right back on.
My screen backlight goes off and won't come back on
I'm not sure if I'm experiencing the same problem... My screen backlight turns off and won't come back on no matter what I do. I tried clicking, scrolling up and down, opening and closing the phone, turning it off and on. Nothing. Black screen. I tried to go into the Backlight Settings panel but couldn't find it. I have to reset it or shut it down for the screen to work. Then the panel is there again.
Last time it happened when I unplugged the usb port. FWIW, I have the 8525 and the latest ROM (2.15 I think.)
Does anyone know how to stop the Today screen activating when the device turns off/on? I often turn my Nike off when I need to do something else for a moment and I'd like to be able to immediately return to what I was doing without going to the Today screen and then into the Start Menu. Even worse if it's something under Settings I have to go through the menus.
I don't understand very well the problem, do you mean that, when you are in any screen, turn off the screen and turn on again it's in the Today screen?.
In my device that doesn't happens, if i turn off/on the screen, the device remains in the application, form, etc.. that I was.
Mine does the same as the guy above me .. only using sliding actions i go back to today screen
btw since I've installed sliding actions .. my phone connects to internet everytime I receive message or have had a phone call
dekoning, I used to have the Today screen activate on slide as well. I use Slide Actions to disable all slide actions. It didn't take the first time, but after a few tries it now is working perfectly.
After using MortPlayer, I've figured out that the Today screen is activated whenever the screen turns on.
carlosmozas, what ROM version are you using?
I had to hard-reset my device at the beginning of the year and this issue was gone. But it came back! It started happening last weekend, I don't have a clue what I changed to cause this.
I don't want to hard-reset again!
Jive Turkey said:
I had to hard-reset my device at the beginning of the year and this issue was gone. But it came back! It started happening last weekend, I don't have a clue what I changed to cause this.
I don't want to hard-reset again!
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Maybe setting up device new and creating a backup (Sprite Backup or similar) is faster than locating the problem itself
Hi,
I've searched for several hours now in these forums and on Google, with no success.
I need an app that leaves the device switched on, but powers off the screen.
In settings/power I can dim the screen, but there is no setting to dim it completely or just switch it off.
I've found screensavers that can show a blank screen, but the screen is still actually powered up, just showing a black image presumably.
I've found apps that can switch off the screen. But you have to manually click on them to switch off the screen.
Does anyone know of a screensaver that after a set interval will leave the device running, but power off the screen please?
Suspend is no good, the device must be up and running apps.
Thanks for your help.
ClearOutLoft said:
Hi,
I've searched for several hours now in these forums and on Google, with no success.
I need an app that leaves the device switched on, but powers off the screen.
In settings/power I can dim the screen, but there is no setting to dim it completely or just switch it off.
I've found screensavers that can show a blank screen, but the screen is still actually powered up, just showing a black image presumably.
I've found apps that can switch off the screen. But you have to manually click on them to switch off the screen.
Does anyone know of a screensaver that after a set interval will leave the device running, but power off the screen please?
Suspend is no good, the device must be up and running apps.
Thanks for your help.
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What apps are you trying to "keep running"? The only thing that might be an issue when the screen goes into it's normal sleep mode is that audio will stop outputting, and wifi connections will suspend, but there's cabs available here to easily get around both of those (and keep them going even when the screen shuts off).
Well, it's actually to solve another long-running problem that has made me almost lose the will to live....
Alarms don't go off reliably on my TP2.
Sometimes, randomly, the alarm doesn't go off until I press the power button to wake it up. The the alarm instantly goes off. So, if I set an alarm for 6am, sometimes the phone wakes up and the alarm sounds, sometimes not. And if I switch the phone on manually sometime later, at 6:15 say, the 6am alarm sounds then.
It will work fine for a few days, then fail.
It happened on WM6.1 and still continues after upgrading to WM6.5.
I have spent countless hours googling and searching XDA-Dev. I have tried probably ten different alarm apps, with no luck. I have hard-reset various times. I have tried various recommended registry tweaks. I've tried checking the notification queue regularly for any errors. I've tried so many different suggestions, for example, never pressing the power button to turn the phone off, only ever let it hibernate automatically. Warm-resetting it each day. And the list goes on.
So, I'm experimenting with just leaving the phone on forever. But turning the screen off at night to save power / not shorten the life of the screen hardware.
Which leads me to the question about screensavers which actually power off the screen automatically after a set delay. Just like a normal screensaver on a PC.
It's hard to easily convey the frustration I have for the TP2. An excellent phone. But a phone which I can't trust to do the simplest thing: to wake me up in the morning?
It'll end up in the bin at some point very soon now.....
A suggestion
Hi,
In my opinion there must be an application, change or customisation that is leading you to those problems. My suggestion is, to perform a sync towards any computer or server to keep your contacts, then, hard reset and keep the phone with the factory defaults for a while. Then, test the phone's alarms and if all is okay, add one by one your applications and changes, testing the alarms in between. Please do that on the official ROM (whatever 6.5 or 6.1) but official one. You will flash if needed later on.
I know it will be a pain, but you will find the problem.
I am using a TP2 with stock WM6.5 ROM. I have not had yet any issue with the alarms. However, I remember to have had those kind of problems before with WM 5.0 and 6.1. There were always related to freeware applications, customisations, no official ROMs, registry hacks and restored backups done from older builds upon upgrade. The alarm bug in old WM version was also known, but I have not experienced it on newer versions.
There can be some issues with the notification database by times, but as said above, it is almost every time due to customisations.
I am not saying that we should keep our phones without applications, third party software, cooked ROMs, customisation etc. But the goal is to find out what is the reason, and believe me. It is the best if not only way.
If you post the list of applications and hacks that you have in your phone, I can try to see if there is any I could identify like guilty one, based on my own experience.
Complementary, I recommend you to install and use these two applications in attachment. They have worked for me on WM5, 6, 6.1 and 6.5 so far. They are freeware and therefore you can use them without problems.
Good luck!
Thanks for taking the time to reply. All very good advice. I'll have a go when I've got some free time again. In the meantime, has anyone come across a screensaver that actually powers off the screen please?
Thanks again.
ClearOutLoft said:
Well, it's actually to solve another long-running problem that has made me almost lose the will to live....
Alarms don't go off reliably on my TP2.
Sometimes, randomly, the alarm doesn't go off until I press the power button to wake it up. The the alarm instantly goes off. So, if I set an alarm for 6am, sometimes the phone wakes up and the alarm sounds, sometimes not. And if I switch the phone on manually sometime later, at 6:15 say, the 6am alarm sounds then.
It will work fine for a few days, then fail.
It happened on WM6.1 and still continues after upgrading to WM6.5.
I have spent countless hours googling and searching XDA-Dev. I have tried probably ten different alarm apps, with no luck. I have hard-reset various times. I have tried various recommended registry tweaks. I've tried checking the notification queue regularly for any errors. I've tried so many different suggestions, for example, never pressing the power button to turn the phone off, only ever let it hibernate automatically. Warm-resetting it each day. And the list goes on.
So, I'm experimenting with just leaving the phone on forever. But turning the screen off at night to save power / not shorten the life of the screen hardware.
Which leads me to the question about screensavers which actually power off the screen automatically after a set delay. Just like a normal screensaver on a PC.
It's hard to easily convey the frustration I have for the TP2. An excellent phone. But a phone which I can't trust to do the simplest thing: to wake me up in the morning?
It'll end up in the bin at some point very soon now.....
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do you turn your ringer to silent or vibrate when you go to bed? if so,
go to start/settings/clocks&alarms/more and make sure that the "sound alarms box" is checked. this will make sure that even if your phone ringers/alerts are off, your alarm will ring. also, if you charge your phone while you sleep, go to the backlight settings and uncheck the "turn screen off on ac power" box. if you cant sleep with the phone light on, set it to max dim on ac power and flip it over. i always had this issue when i had the tmobile wing.
ClearOutLoft said:
Hi,
I've searched for several hours now in these forums and on Google, with no success.
I need an app that leaves the device switched on, but powers off the screen.
In settings/power I can dim the screen, but there is no setting to dim it completely or just switch it off.
I've found screensavers that can show a blank screen, but the screen is still actually powered up, just showing a black image presumably.
I've found apps that can switch off the screen. But you have to manually click on them to switch off the screen.
Does anyone know of a screensaver that after a set interval will leave the device running, but power off the screen please?
Suspend is no good, the device must be up and running apps.
Thanks for your help.
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S2U2 on this forum.
try g alarm.it worked perfect for me with tilt
I have similar Issues with my TP2;
I notice that it is more to do with HIBERNATING than screen off.
My TP2 has go to the point where allowing it to go to hibernation means Screen of Death.
Overnight I charge it and do not let the screen go off and it seems ok (so far).
Guess I will have to Hard reset and test my freeware.
Cheers
G
I had the exact same problem. When the phone goes to sleep, it is ASLEEP. I didn't use the alarm too much but the phone would never notify me when SMS arrived. I'd hit the power switch to check, and bam, three messages arrive at once, some from hours ago. Immensely frustrating, but the problem went away when I installed Energy rom.
I just noticed this morning that when I hit the power button the screen only dims now. I swear it used to shut off the display completely before today, and I know for certain that is how it worked on 1.6. This really is annoying, because now when I put it in my pocket the 3 buttons are constantly being depresses and they vibrate, which lights the display again. That coupled with this stupid lock screen that I have to try to open 3-4 times is really making me angry. Maybe it's just me thugh.....
I'm assuming you upgraded to 2.1?
I remember reading somewhere that someone had a similar issue after upgrading to 2.1 but then they re flashed 2.1 a different way and problem went away.
Same issue here, it really eats up my battery life, and I do end up pushing those soft keys all-too often... I am on 2.1 and that is definitely when the problem started, I'm going to try reflashing to see if I can eliminate the issue.
try the steps found here on streaksmart.com. She reports that she has no issues when its done that way. I don't have my streak yet but will follow these steps when i get it.
I had a similar problem before, only the screen would go off and on again and stay on!
Turns out it was an APP that done this.
It is possible an app is causing the problem.
Don't leave wifi on when not using and the problem disappears.
vatk said:
Don't leave wifi on when not using and the problem disappears.
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I've been experimenting with what's been causing this on mine, and I noticed that sometimes wifi will not shut all the way off. It hangs at "Turning off..."
So I tried not letting it sleep with wifi on, I turn it on if I need it, then turn it off (really a big pain in the butt) but went two days with no "no sleep" problems.
Today I tried leaving wifi on all the time, not two hours later it happened.
Since it's not happening to everybody, I wonder if it has something to do with our wifi setups. Maybe the router brand, or the encryption type, or something?
Last night I powered off the phone before better. I have wifi on all the time and I never shut it off. Today though, I have had no issues with the sleep function. It's still mid afternoon so we'll see if it continues this way. If so I will explore the wifi solution as well.
I was having this problem and somehow this setting was wrong:
SETTINGS>>APPLICATIONS>>DEVELOPMENT>>STAY AWAKE
mine was checked and we all know what that mean. Check yours to be sure if your not up for flashing again. Just a thought in case you overlooked this...
bhyde said:
I was having this problem and somehow this setting was wrong:
SETTINGS>>APPLICATIONS>>DEVELOPMENT>>STAY AWAKE
mine was checked and we all know what that mean. Check yours to be sure if your not up for flashing again. Just a thought in case you overlooked this...
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Yes, it means the screen will not time out and go off when it's being charged, but you can still turn it off, and mine wasn't plugged in when I couldn't turn it off.
I don't think this is related to what I've been seeing, but thanks.
It seems that Bluetooth did it today. I was fine all day going black on sleep with power button, but once I switched on wireless to connect to my car stereo it never went off again. Even if I turn off the wireless I have to shut down and reboot.
jnovello said:
It seems that Bluetooth did it today. I was fine all day going black on sleep with power button, but once I switched on wireless to connect to my car stereo it never went off again. Even if I turn off the wireless I have to shut down and reboot.
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Same here. Started car and it showed zero signal strength for the phone on the dashboard display. Pressed the power button on the Dell Streak and the car display then displayed the signal strength. From then on, the screen would dim but not shut off.
Pete
petesbodyparts said:
Same here. Started car and it showed zero signal strength for the phone on the dashboard display. Pressed the power button on the Dell Streak and the car display then displayed the signal strength. From then on, the screen would dim but not shut off.
Pete
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Was your wifi also enabled (even if not connected to any AP's) when this happened?
a042349 said:
Was your wifi also enabled (even if not connected to any AP's) when this happened?
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Yes, and I couldn't turn it off once the "screen dim bug" took hold. Today I've rebooted and left Bluetooth OFF and Wireless ON and have not had an issue all day long, and that's making calls, using 3G, wireless and running a pile of apps. I think I can live with no Bluetooth until the next release.
Pete
I don't think it's BT. I think it's wifi not recovering properly from sleep mode.
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I don't think it's BT. I think it's wifi not recovering properly from sleep mode.
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Fair call. However, I've now had BT off for 6 hours and I'm using 3G, wireless and USB transfers and it hasn't hiccuped yet. This is the longest I've had with no screen dim bug.
I did notice that when I walked out to the car, the Streak could still "see" my home wireless network, then starting the car and the BT pairing and connecting is when the screen dim bug came back.
Maybe it's when both are run at the same time and both are connected/paired?
petesbodyparts said:
Fair call. However, I've now had BT off for 6 hours and I'm using 3G, wireless and USB transfers and it hasn't hiccuped yet. This is the longest I've had with no screen dim bug.
I did notice that when I walked out to the car, the Streak could still "see" my home wireless network, then starting the car and the BT pairing and connecting is when the screen dim bug came back.
Maybe it's when both are run at the same time and both are connected/paired?
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I agree its looks like its a wifi issue. I always keep my bluetooth off and it still did it.
I got mine fixed... but the problem is i did a bunch of steps and now cant figure out which one actually fixed it. its been running great for 12hrs now.
What I did, since I noticed that wifi sometimes didn't sleep or wake itself up properly all the time (which i think is what's affecting our Streak sleeping), was turn off the wifi sleep. In other words when my device shuts off wifi stays active.
However, I then used "Tasker" from the Market and setup two profiles. When the screen goes off it shuts off 3G, wifi and autosync. Then when the screen comes on it turns on 3g/wifi, waits 20 secs and enables autosync (which then initiates a mail/calendar/contacts sync).
This has worked perfectly, and I get mad good battery life to boot. Now this means I don't get mail/updates (facebook, weather, etc - still get calls and txts obviously) but for me it's not a big deal especially for the battery life.
I may eventually setup more Tasker events to duplicate "Juice Defender" and poll every half hour (3G only, when screen is off only) to get my updates, but for now it's been working great.
I also setup profiles so if I'm not where I have wifi pairings it shuts down wifi. Also if it detects I'm connected via wifi (at home for instance) it disables my lock screen. I also have it set to only start GPS for apps that need it (Maps, Navigation, Places, etc) and that helps save battery too.
Tasker is an awesome app for $3.99. It has a steep learning curve, but there are enough walk-throughs available to teach you how to do the basics.
rebel146 said:
I agree its looks like its a wifi issue. I always keep my bluetooth off and it still did it.
I got mine fixed... but the problem is i did a bunch of steps and now cant figure out which one actually fixed it. its been running great for 12hrs now.
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Found the fix on Modaco. Have a look at the last page of the thread called "2.1 Bugs ....., Add what you find please....."
I never knew there was an "Advanced" menu for WiFi!
yeah that is not it. I also have mine set to never time out so does that mean it will never shut off either? Anyway, it keeps happening through the day. Wifi and bluetooth do seem to have something to do with it, but I need them both on all the time so the only thing I can do is reboot. Then it is good for a couple hours. Are the any apps that have a reboot? That's one thing I miss on the iPhone.