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How flimsy is the sim card cover i mean the bottom part of phone i removed it once and it bent managed to fix it but its got a creese mark now
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The very first thing I did was crush the cover taking it off when I got home. Disappointed coming from a very abused,yet still mint nexus.
A thread a few posts up says to email them

Lol yeah i wasnt even cruel to it nightmare
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same problem happen over here as well

push your thumbs across the top of the cover, do not pinch the sides! it specifically says not to pinch it in the first page of the instruction manual.
however i do agree the build quality of these bits are terrible.

Sim cover + gap fixed!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=827091&highlight=Sim+Cover

I don't have any problems with it at all. I think you have to remove it by sliding it down from the sides of the phone, rather than putting thumb/finger on the back.

Yup, killed one myself when I first got the DHD. HTC of course wouldn't just give me a new one - only set me back about £30 for a new one, including shipping

Yeah nearly snaped mine getting it off first time. Just creased/bent it but still works will get new one at some point. Find it best to ease it off from each side now, works for me.
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harro3 said:
I don't have any problems with it at all. I think you have to remove it by sliding it down from the sides of the phone, rather than putting thumb/finger on the back.
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Yep! Don't see how people have issues. It slides on perfect and clicks solidly into place. The battery cover has flimsy clips if you want to talk flimsy
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smurcoch said:
Yep! Don't see how people have issues. It slides on perfect and clicks solidly into place. The battery cover has flimsy clips if you want to talk flimsy
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I've got three DHDs around me (including mine), they are also bought from different operators. Not even one have perfect fit for the sim cover. All of them have a small bump at the center of the cover, and mine is doing some awful cracking noise. I've tried every possible way to fit the cover in (including the way described in the mentioned tread) .. no good..
So i don't think theres a DHD without this problem in the wild..

Desire HD multitouch

Did anyone here notice problems with multi-touch when pressing with 4 fingers in a square.
It fails to recognize all fingers or misplaces them or other strange behaviour.
That means the screen is not REAL multi-touch and that's kinda disappointing in my opinion.
(4 fingers work fine in most situations, only when trying to achieve a perfectly aligned square)
Can anyone else try this? (best program to use is "Multitouch visible test" free from market.)

Works for me.
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if there are 2 fingers on same row, one of them disapere.. if you do a perfect square, you get left with one finger working...

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if there are 2 fingers on same row, one of them disapere.. if you do a perfect square, you get left with one finger working...
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As I said, strange stuff happens with 4 fingers aligned like that

Foladko said:
As I said, strange stuff happens with 4 fingers aligned like that
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very wired.... but how cares, i can play fruit ninja with 4 fingers

I am having no problems at all...
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Works for me....
And yes, it is "real" multitouch

Fine here too.

All good with mine also - four points in a square with no problems whatsoever.

works fine with me too

I've been testing this further today and it's slightly more complicated.
I noticed that when plugged into charger it seems to work, but as soon as I disconnect it the issue is back.
It also worked or didn't randomly through the day.
So I guess this could be a software issue, possibly to conserve battery..?

Foladko said:
I've been testing this further today and it's slightly more complicated.
I noticed that when plugged into charger it seems to work, but as soon as I disconnect it the issue is back.
It also worked or didn't randomly through the day.
So I guess this could be a software issue, possibly to conserve battery..?
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I noticed this too! At first, I was happy that it worked for me, but then I read this, and plugged it out of the charger. So then we know that when we want to impress our friends with four points multitouch, we need to have the charger plugged in

Foladko said:
I've been testing this further today and it's slightly more complicated.
I noticed that when plugged into charger it seems to work, but as soon as I disconnect it the issue is back.
It also worked or didn't randomly through the day.
So I guess this could be a software issue, possibly to conserve battery..?
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I can confirm that. Just tried it and it behaves very strange. Seems to me that it's not related to charging because both times I had my phone off the charger...
EDIT: OK I rebooted just to see if it's software related. It's not. It's purely hardware. You have to hold your phone to get proper multitouch. Simple as that.
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DubelBoom said:
if there are 2 fingers on same row, one of them disapere.. if you do a perfect square, you get left with one finger working...
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You might have a faulty device if it doesn't work...
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Please remember that there are 4 different models of touch panel that HTC use in the Desire HD, 2 different screen models and 2 different camera modules. Not all DHDs are the same. If you have an ENG HBoot then you can see what hardware your DHD has by checking 'system info'.

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Please remember that there are 4 different models of touch panel that HTC use in the Desire HD, 2 different screen models and 2 different camera modules. Not all DHDs are the same. If you have an ENG HBoot then you can see what hardware your DHD has by checking 'system info'.
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Well I know about 2 different screens, and the Inspire 4G uses a slightly better camera, but I've never heard about 4 different touch panels being used
I also don't think it's a hardware issue, because then it wouldn't just work and then stop randomly. It really sounds like a software thing TBH
My phone has the auo screen and the touch pannel is: SYN3KT_0108

Foladko said:
Well I know about 2 different screens, and the Inspire 4G uses a slightly better camera, but I've never heard about 4 different touch panels being used
I also don't think it's a hardware issue, because then it wouldn't just work and then stop randomly. It really sounds like a software thing TBH
My phone has the auo screen and the touch pannel is: SYN3KT_0108
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Hold the phone while testing the touchscreen. if you just leave it on the table, it behaves like you describe. If you hold it in your hand, the touches are precise.

Foladko said:
Did anyone here notice problems with multi-touch when pressing with 4 fingers in a square.
It fails to recognize all fingers or misplaces them or other strange behaviour.
That means the screen is not REAL multi-touch and that's kinda disappointing in my opinion.
(4 fingers work fine in most situations, only when trying to achieve a perfectly aligned square)
Can anyone else try this? (best program to use is "Multitouch visible test" free from market.)
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If you get "Z-DeviceTest" app you can test almost everything... and our Display can recognize a maximum of 4 fingers, not more and not less, so its multitouch => Jazzhand XD^^

As others pointed out you need to hold the phone in your hand so your hand acts like a ground. And thats actually not really a problem since capacitive technology is supposed to be grounded if you want to make precise touch. Thats just basic electronic stuff we all should know
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Nece228 said:
As others pointed out you need to hold the phone in your hand so your hand acts like a ground. And thats actually not really a problem since capacitive technology is supposed to be grounded if you want to make precise touch. Thats just basic electronic stuff we all should know
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I have thought of that and I know how capacitive touch tech works.
That does make sense.
But then 4 touch shouldn't work at all when not plugged in or being held, instead only square position not working when not in contact, I mean 4 fingers is the same deal whatever way you position them on the screen?
Care to explain further?

Interesting stance on the Spen from Samsung

Well like some others here I have a faulty S-Pen. It starts interacting with the screen about 1-2cm away which is VERY frustrating. After seeing some threads here I got in touch with Samsung Customer Support and this is what I got.
I sent
I've had an issue with my s-pen over the last few weeks. The pen will ''''click'''' or ''''draw '''' something on the screen when its about 1-2cm away from the screen.
This makes annotation and drawing very difficult as it keeps pressing when I do not mean to.
Is this a firmware issue or hardware issue? From what I''''ve read online it looks to me to be hardware related.
Many thanks,
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This is what I got in return.
Dear Ben
Thank you for contacting Samsung.
I'm afraid that the s-pen is designed to work in this manner. It is an option that most customers tend to prefer so that the screen does not actually have to be touched/scratched by the pen. I'm sorry if this is an inconvenience to you.
If you require any further assistance, please contact Samsung again and we will be more than happy to help.
Kind regards
Ciaran
Online Support Team
SAMSUNG Customer Support Centre
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I know thats total BS. Who would want a stylus that unpredictably touches the screen without touching it?
Your thoughts?

khsbenny said:
total BS
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Well, that's not how I would want the S-Pen to work and for me that's not how it does work so I'd suggest you get back to them and explain that what you have is a definite problem.
For me the S-Pen does pretty much exactly what you (or any other sane person) would want - it takes a gentle but quite deliberate contact with the screen to make anything happen.

This is the same problem I have it really is frustrating :-!
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The pen should be detected when slightly above the surface of the screen, that's how my Wacom tablet works as well, but it should never "click" without actually touching the surface so there's definately something wrong.
You could try to calibrate your sensors and do a factory reset. If neither solve the problem then I would press Samsung to send a replacement pen.

bioweb said:
The pen should be detected when slightly above the surface of the screen, that's how my Wacom tablet works as well, but it should never "click" without actually touching the surface so there's definately something wrong.
You could try to calibrate your sensors and do a factory reset. If neither solve the problem then I would press Samsung to send a replacement pen.
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I've resetted, tried different roms and the only way I can get it to work normally is by moving the end of the pen. Its only a temporary solution though and only lasts a few minutes.

It's deffinately a hardware fault within the pen, its a tiny rubber o-ring between the magnet and the coil which breaks up over time allowing them to stay in contact when they shouldnt be, I replaced mine with cotton and it works like a charm now.
Samsung are talking out their arse's!

This is definately not normal behaviour as it defeats the whole purpose of the pen being pressure sensitive and it's just a load of bull that's what people prefer as it screws up any accuracy. I'm not aware of any setting that would invoke this behaviour so I'd say it's definately a hardware related issue.

Samsung Service Idiots said:
I'm afraid that the s-pen is designed to work in this manner.
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My thoughts? Sorry for nerding, but the answer is: LOL! If this is how it´s designed to work, millions of users (including me) are using a defect device.
The only way to reproduce this pen-behaviour is to lie down on your bed and to use the Note with the screen pointing to the ground (technical reasons).

That confirms that the s-pen is scratching the screen!

I've just sent them the exact same message as copied from your post, lets see what reply they give me

RudiRulez said:
I've just sent them the exact same message as copied from your post, lets see what reply they give me
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That will be interesting actually, I wonder if they'll offer you a new pen.
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Samsung technical support are crap. I rang them because my 7.7 went into a boot loop every time I powered off and had to let the battery go flat to escape from the loop. The solution they suggested was to never power off and when I argued that I should be able to power down they hung up on me. I returned the 7.7 to Amazon for a re-fund within the 30 days and got a replacement from Hong Kong with 3g for £60 less.

I'm glad samsung is not in automobile or aviation industry - people would die because of such a low quality control.

I think they might send you a free air compressor, when you tell them that the pressure sensivity doesn't work at 2cm above the screen without

Boy124 said:
I'm glad samsung is not in automobile or aviation industry - people would die because of such a low quality control.
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from what I read before, Samsung originated as a company selling trade exports of fish, vegetables and fruits to China.

Wonder if trying a third party penabled pen would make a difference.
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i found the solution. just wrap some metal foil above the button and the behaviour is gone. use some cellotape. saw on youtube. it is not mechanical.
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Will give that a try tomorrow thanks ;-)
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msnxda said:
i found the solution. just wrap some metal foil above the button and the behaviour is gone. use some cellotape. saw on youtube. it is not mechanical.
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Err which button are you talking about?

Habit..

I just got my note today and I was writing and all of a sudden the note wouldn't recognize the pen. Usually when you write with an actual and nothing writes you tend to shake it so out of habit I did that with the s-pen and then realized how idiotic I looked anyone else do this?
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antispiral said:
I just got my note today and I was writing and all of a sudden the note wouldn't recognize the pen. Usually when you write with an actual and nothing writes you tend to shake it so out of habit I did that with the s-pen and then realized how idiotic I looked anyone else do this?
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I find running in circles and flapping my arms works best. It's in the manual.

mitchellvii said:
I find running in circles and flapping my arms works best. It's in the manual.
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I knew I should have read manuall first lol
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Ah, the old OM (Oscillatory maintenance). It's a pet theory that that will do anything, but clearly it's a technique for wimps.
Everyone knows that when something stops working, clearly the best cure is PM (Percussive Maintenance)...
(Now I'll have to pay attention and see if I ever wimp out )

When I got my first Tablet PC, I used a Wacom stylus with an eraser end (which works with the Note 10.1 - BTW).
When I was drawing, I'd flip the pen over to erase and without thinking, I'd *brush away the eraser crumbs*... which makes sense on paper, but of course, doesn't make sense on a tablet.
I don't do it much anymore - but I still sometimes feel my arm wanting to do it even now...
Amazing how we get into these deep grooves and even more amazing how close to 'the real thing' these devices can be.

Thats nothing, I was reading an actual paper magazine and tried to scroll the page. Had to look and see if anyone noticed thank god no one did.
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bbgt2 said:
Thats nothing, I was reading an actual paper magazine and tried to scroll the page. Had to look and see if anyone noticed thank god no one did.
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Mine wasnt that bad... I was trying to show something on my brother's 17" laptop the other day and I ran my fingers on the screen to scroll down... Whooops...

junrider said:
Mine wasnt that bad... I was trying to show something on my brother's 17" laptop the other day and I ran my fingers on the screen to scroll down... Whooops...
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I regularly try to use touch on my laptop's external monitor. It looks like a large version of a tablet since it's on an arm, and really messes with my head.

TheWerewolf said:
When I got my first Tablet PC, I used a Wacom stylus with an eraser end (which works with the Note 10.1 - BTW).
When I was drawing, I'd flip the pen over to erase and without thinking, I'd *brush away the eraser crumbs*... which makes sense on paper, but of course, doesn't make sense on a tablet.
I don't do it much anymore - but I still sometimes feel my arm wanting to do it even now...
Amazing how we get into these deep grooves and even more amazing how close to 'the real thing' these devices can be.
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That's funny!

How S-Pen really works [use your Note2 without touching the screen at all]

Hey guys,
yesterday night while playing around with my international Note2, I found something pretty interesting, and I was able to control the entire phone WITHOUT touching the screen at all, neither with my fingers nor the S-Pen.
Basically the phone doesn't recognize the S-Pen click/tap by the contact of the pen with the screen, the phone does recognize the "tap" when the pen tip goes back.
Now try yourself: with the help of *whatever you want* ( I used a poker playing card ), bring the S-Pen near the screen, let's say over an icon, and with the object you've chosen make the pen tip go back. If you're accurate enough, you will see the icon being pressed.
Now throw the object away and use your fingers, take the pen in your hand, keep the tip pressed with your index finger and have fun.
I don't know if this might be useful for some future development or has already been posted/discovered, I'm just sharing my experience.
Best regards,
PurPLe SKy

Wo! You're right... It works!!
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hehehe
I think Almost all they know it.....
Two months before I made a video on it take a look at it.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOqPMT21NMA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
If you can you can update this link in OP

it is for fun only

raghavafitt said:
hehehe
I think Almost all they know it.....
Two months before I made a video on it take a look at it.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOqPMT21NMA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
If you can you can update this link in OP
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LOL, ok, ok
I got my Note2 less than a month ago and I discovered that just yesterday, also the title of the topic didn't match anything relevant/similar

here's a funny trick you can play on other note (2) owners if they have a somewhat flexible case: attach a magnet to the back of the phone.
it won't hurt any of the electronics, but the s-pen will refuse to write above the magnet.
I figured that out when I got a nice 360 flip case with a not so nice magnet in the back.
it took me a while to figure out there was nothing wrong with my stylus.

How to use s pen without touch to screen please reply me
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thinks for the info