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Manila 2.5 problem with TD2

Hi, there!
I'm having a nasty problem with my TD2 and have no idea what is going on.
The phone is working fine with the stock tom or any Manila 2.1/Titanium cooked rom.
The problem begins with any Manila 2.5 rom (believe me I tested them all).
I use activesync to synchronize my contacts, calendar and mail with Gmail. My typical contact consists of a name,surname, phone number,mail, birthday and a picture downloaded from facebook automatically.
Now when I flash a 2.5 rom, I do a hard reset two times, and synchronize with activesync. Then I go to the people tab to add favorites.
I add the first - everything is fine.
Second - ok
Third and manila dies completely after I select a particular detail on a contact.
I can go to start menu, lock the phone etc, but cannot return to home screen. After reseting the phone, everything is fine until I go to the people tab - selecting this hangs Manila.
Sometimes after doing a reset the people tab works but adding another favorite hangs it again.
What could cause this?

No idea what could cause, but the favourites I set up in manila 2.1 (and synced with Outlook) automatically come up when I first sync 2.5 with Outlook. I don't need to add them...
Might be some incompatibility with syncing to GMAIL

Outlook mobile steals focus

Hi there.
I have a little issue with outlook, when it syncs up my imap account it steals the focus and shows up as the active window. It does it wether there is new mail or not, but not every time. Same thing when the device is sleeping, i wake it back up and it shows my inbox even if outlook was closed before going to sleep.
Has anyone else had this issue (and maybe knows how to fix it) ?

Same thing happens to me also, it's not all the time but sometimes and I can't tell whats going on to make it happen.
I'm using pop.
Annoying it is though.
Regards

I had this on WM6.5 Kaiser ROM but havent had it yet on the Leo

any luck with this issue. just read some essential feeds and the mail application pop up about 10 times
thanks
nev

I haven't had this problem for quite a while now. I haven't changed my email configuration but i did change roms a few times since then (netnrg and energy mostly). So i guess the issue is somehow fixed in recent roms.

Stop Outlook stealing focus
Make sure that Outlook is running
Go into Task Manager
Press and Hold on 'Outlook E-mail'
Select 'Add Exclusive' from the pop-up menu
You can confirm it has been added by going to the 'Exclusive' tab next.
Not sure why this is required, but this means that Outlook will always be running in the background and won't need to pop up on top of other apps (was very frustrating for me when watching movies and this would happen).

[Solution] Manila 1922 Freeezing!

Hi all,
I have had manila freezing problems on past few roms on namely,
XannyTech's 1.0, 1.1,
PDAVIET - v5, v7
(i mention these because i have flashed only these, not others, so this solution could be for other roms too).
Though both these roms are beautifully made up, i had severe manila freezing problems. i didnt install much, but still it occured, and always it happened shortly after i flashed.
Now i had overlooked the exact happening of it, and finally was able to see it happen.
This freezing of manila is happening due to addition of a POP/IMAP MAIL ACCOUNT only. (in reference to my case) And i have been successful in confirming this as i am able to recreate this problem.
I have added a hotmail account too, but that doesn't disturb the manila at all, but only the pop/imap mail account is troubling it.
When the Manila freezes, i am still able to go to the start menu, and from there to MAIL, and then i delete the pop mail account, and soft reset. Everything is back to normal, and the phone works beautifully!
I have been having this problem within a short time of flashing the rom, as i always sync and download my mails immediately after flashing so i can be on the move.
This solution is there, but the lack of having my pop mail on my phone is becoming a problem to me as its my business mail.
Request to Chefs: Can you please try and see if it also happens with you?
I can confirm that the following softwares are NOT the ones creating problem...
S2U2,
Showcase,
I hope this is helpful to all! and i hope the great Chefs here help in overcoming this problem.

I had no problems with manila freezes on pdaviet v5 and v6 with gmail account.

as i said mate, its happening mostly with private business domain pop/imap mail accounts mainly.
Can you try installing a business mail domain on it and see if it freezes?

I will try tomorow at work.

I have the problem you mentioned, but I can not said you is for the POP3 mail account. Manila in several ROMS freezing and go back to prove another ROM in order to have the HD2 OK. Next time I'll flash I not going to install the mail to know if the right problem.

I have IMAP for AOL & pop3 for hotmail installed on various ROM's & no freezing. I have been using Sense on both the HD2 & Xperia for a long time. I think you're on the wrong track. I did encounter freezing with Showcase. I am interested to know what makes you think that it's not this. I take it you have Showcase installed?

Weepatc, i have showcase installed, and working smoothly.
i have set hotmail and gmail accounts and both working fine.
now i have a couple of business domain. and ONLY when i set them up, do i encounter Manila to freeze up for good.
The moment i remove those accounts from the email settings, all is back to normal.
i have tried out this process about 6-7 times to reconfirm if that is what causing the hangups, and that is what caused it all the time.

Maybe u should try to flash a rom, then setup emails without installing showcase. I had a problem with this app on some roms, especially the new ones with start button at tho bottom.

Insane Devil said:
Weepatc, i have showcase installed, and working smoothly.
i have set hotmail and gmail accounts and both working fine.
now i have a couple of business domain. and ONLY when i set them up, do i encounter Manila to freeze up for good.
The moment i remove those accounts from the email settings, all is back to normal.
i have tried out this process about 6-7 times to reconfirm if that is what causing the hangups, and that is what caused it all the time.
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Are your email accounts set up to retrieve email automatically. If so, it might be an idea to set it up for manual Send/Recieve & try that.

I also have freezing issue but ramdomly and suddenly. I tried XannyTech ROM 1. 0 and 1.1
any workaround ?

weepatc said:
I have IMAP for AOL & pop3 for hotmail installed on various ROM's & no freezing. I have been using Sense on both the HD2 & Xperia for a long time. I think you're on the wrong track. I did encounter freezing with Showcase. I am interested to know what makes you think that it's not this. I take it you have Showcase installed?
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I think he is on the right track with this. I have been having the same issues and after setup mail with Seven (www.seven.com). It seems to occurred when setting up Push e-mail for POP or Exchange.
However, I am only observing this issue with the 28XXX and the 235XX builds (basically anything using 6.5.X UI.) It does not occurred with 218XX builds which just 6.5 UI.

I aggree something bogus is happening, i was fine on miri 1.0 6.5.x with exchange and hotmail, no freezes, upgraded to xanytech evolution rc1....freezes like a mofo, also got freezing on miri 1.1 but i think that may have been down to something else

Hi there...
i'm just using HD2Owners Roms...
have also the Manilla freezes...
since i'm not using pop3 or Imap ... only Exchange sync!!!
Startmenü still available... just got into the orignal Windows Settings (thanks to B&B Tweaks... to have a option to enable this..)
so just got into the home settings, and disable and renable sense...
then sense isnt freezing...
i had many programm now in focus.. the last one was fpsece... but i didn't have installed this cab right now and sense still freezing from time to time... but not everytime... so no guess whats the real problem....

I'm going to try flashing back to stock then flashing again, this has happened before on other devices, flashing from custom rom to custom rom, it might be worth a shot, its only going to take 10mins, i'll try tonight and post my results.
Si

Cool, so now more and more people are experiencing the same problem. Atleast now we know what is causing the problem, so its easier to search for a solution.
Coming to think of it, this problem is cropping up only on the Manila 2.5.1922 version.
I think we should request some chefs to make a rom with the old 1921 manila.

look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5308280&postcount=164
my "story"
maybe it has something to do with manilla customizing...

same issue here with WM 6.5.x office 2010beta

I think manilla freezes like you describe in circumstances where the installed software makes a change to manilla in some way.
I have had the same problems when installing the HTC Network plugin, because it adds the network plugin option to the Other settings tab within manilla. I have also been able to repeat this fault consistently, and has always requred a hard reset to rectify.
However, from what i can gather, it is something that only applys to Manilla 1922 as opposed to 1921, which is a real pain when everyone seems to be using 1922 in their roms now.

i use 1922 in my rom and never had a freeze

makeveral said:
i use 1922 in my rom and never had a freeze
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The question for you is: are you doing any e-mail (pushing or pop) with it. Are you also using it on HD2 device. I have used Manila all day today with no lockups or freezes, however I have not setup any of my e-mail stuff. I did installed my applications and still no issues. I will soon setup my e-mail and then freezes are guaranteed

HD2 with 1.66 ROM and Hotmail

Ever since i updated to the new 1.66 ROM i have been unable to sync my hd2 with hotmail. everytime i tried to set up a new email acct using 'mail' tab on home screen, they simply open up my browser and send me to the hotmail site.
using the window live app gives me the same problem. With the old 1.48 i'm able to sync email with my hotmail acct directly thru the 'mail' tab on the home screen w/o opening the browser. anyone else experiencing this problem?

Live Account
I'm having the same issue, except on ROM 1.48 (still waiting for ROM 1.66 in South Africa!) So perhaps not ROM specific related! Maybe a hotfix somehow changed this. I am running the SMS Update of 24/01/2010 which seems to have fixed the SMS stuck in Outbox issue.

I have updated to 1.66 and set up hotmail perfectly OK through the windows live app. It syncs every 30 minutes with no issues so far. Perhaps you have some other applications causing a conflict?

enping said:
Ever since i updated to the new 1.66 ROM i have been unable to sync my hd2 with hotmail. everytime i tried to set up a new email acct using 'mail' tab on home screen, they simply open up my browser and send me to the hotmail site.
using the window live app gives me the same problem. With the old 1.48 i'm able to sync email with my hotmail acct directly thru the 'mail' tab on the home screen w/o opening the browser. anyone else experiencing this problem?
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have the same problem, i have to setup manually
enter a non valid hotmail acc first, eg. [email protected]
then setup the rest manually, do not download mails at end of setup (it will fail anyway since it's not a valid acc).
upon setup finish, go back to your account settings & enter the correct hotmail acc, eg. [email protected]. then download mails
1 thing strange is that it scan thru all your emails in your hotmail acc, which takes rather long time even though i set it for 7 days emails.
hope it helps

1.66 here, and yes...same problem with Windows live and hotmail. Wont work at all. Ill redo the 1.66 now and try hotmail right after to check if it works, before i do anything else. Stay tuned...

TheRealBnold said:
1.66 here, and yes...same problem with Windows live and hotmail. Wont work at all. Ill redo the 1.66 now and try hotmail right after to check if it works, before i do anything else. Stay tuned...
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Worked perfect, now i just have to figure out what i installed to spoil it...

Same here...
TheRealBnold said:
Worked perfect, now i just have to figure out what i installed to spoil it...
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...so I guess I will have to do (another) hard reset...unless you are faster than me, which I guess

managed to get it working aft all... i simply ran the setup for windows live again... working perfectly now... weird... maybe there was something wrong with the hotmail website the last time? hmm...

enping said:
managed to get it working aft all... i simply ran the setup for windows live again... working perfectly now... weird... maybe there was something wrong with the hotmail website the last time? hmm...
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Yeah, I have noticed the same. Might have been some serverside changes or something at Microsoft, since it seems to be running fine now

same problems here. Just done a hard reset and still no joy. Going to flash another rom and see if the problem goes away

flashed another new rom and also a old rom that I know works and it still won't connect to live services.
It'll ask for user name / password, and then start doing it's stuff - d/ling contacts, inbox, folders - but this will take around 10 minuted for it to complete.
It'll then come up with an sync error and go back to the main page. Looking at sync status though it shows it as successful.
Hopefully it'll all be working again tomorrow as it does seem to be a problem at microsofts side

[PROB]: Manila 2.5.2x Slow People tab because People/Email Tab in sync with Exchange

Hi
I will gift with 100€ for the first chef that can Fix this (using 2.5.2x manila & VM 6.5.x)
I have found a problem with Manila 2.5.2x (manila 2.5.19211619 does not have this problem)
I have test several custom rom with manila 2.5.2x and all of them has the same problem
For sure I have MTTY, Hard Reset Etc on every new Flash.
These are the problems (400 contacts and 40 emails)
1.- Open Sence/manila "All People"
2.- Select a contact, Go to Email Tab of the contact .. Very slow
3.- pusht Back--- Slow
4.- Open a Contact and select a Diferent Call Number that the default, it takes 10sec to dial
Now:
Go to ActiveSync Options and Deselect (emails)
Do the same 1 to 4... FAST!!!
remenber this is only happeing when you sync Contacts and Emails with Exchange.
The problem is that everytime you open a contact it lookups for the emails and this slowdown everything
Is there anyway to avoid to do the lookups of emails?? It should just lookup for emails when I select the Email Tab(stock Rom does it) of the contact but not every time I open ALL People or a single contact or I want to select a diferent Number.
Any Idea of a Hack??? or a way to fix??
UPDATE 1:
I have open a "Request" on the forum to see if some expert can help us
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=676527
Update 2:
any rom (stock or Custom) with Manila Build 2.5.19211619 works fast.. No problem with contacts so is a Manila 2.5.2x Problem..
Update 3:
Temporal Trick : I have move all the email fields of the contacts to the Notes field and now "All people" is fast! not a good solution but at least I can use my phone with contacts and Emails
Iosu
Thanks!!

Hi..
I'm the only one with this problem???
Iosu

I have the same problem but not with Exchange but with synching with Lotus Notes Traveller.
This is why I am still using Duttys ML WWE 1.5 because on this one it working like on stock roms.
Best regards,
dingolino
iosub said:
Hi
I'm posting on the ROM section because I have check Reveral Custom Roms an all of them have the same problem. Stocks ROM are OK.
For sure I have MTTY, Hard Reset Etc on every new Flash.
These are the problems (400 contacts and 40 emails)
1.- Open Sence/manila "All People"
2.- Select a contact, Go to Email Tab of the contact .. Very slow
3.- pusht Back--- Slow
4.- Open a Contact and select a Diferent Call Number that the default, it takes 10sec to dial
Now:
Go to ActiveSync Options and Deselect (emails)
Do the same 1 to 4... FAST!!!
remenber this is only happeing when you sync Contacts and Emails with Exchange.
The problem is that everytime you open a contact it lookups for the emails and this slowdown everything
Is there anyway to avoid to do the lookups of emails?? It should just lookup for emails when I select the Email Tab(stock Rom does it) of the contact but not every time I open ALL People or a single contact or I want to select a diferent Number.
Any Idea of a Hack??? or a way to fix??
Thanks!!
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I used about 30 different cooked ROMs on my LEO and i doesnt have this problems... Syncing with Exchange 2007 emails, contacts, calendar and tasks.
Try Task 29, use correct Radio and make HR after flash.

Petulinek said:
I used about 30 different cooked ROMs on my LEO and i doesnt have this problems... Syncing with Exchange 2007 emails, contacts, calendar and tasks.
Try Task 29, use correct Radio and make HR after flash.
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thanks for your suggestion, but as I had say I allways do task 29 (also task 28 sometimes ) with mtty, hard reset etc etc..
also I have 2 HD2 same thing in both. stock rom no problem .. only with custom rom. if I disable HTC SENSE , the winmo contacs are realty fast .

dingolino said:
I have the same problem but not with Exchange but with synching with Lotus Notes Traveller.
This is why I am still using Duttys ML WWE 1.5 because on this one it working like on stock roms.
Best regards,
dingolino
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thanks! I will try ..
btw, did you ask to dutty if he knows a solution?

Yes I have asked Dutty and he was so kind and made a quick test rom but also no change.
Normlay the stock roms have .NET 2.0 and I install .NET 3.5 so I was thinking that maybe there is the root cause for the behaviour, but the old WWE 1.5 from Dutty has also .NET 3.5 integrated.
Could it have something to do with policies, safety features, certificates which are missing in a cooked rom and left behind for space and speed reasons?
We have now for test purpose a new sync software installed - msuite - to see if this is changing. I have to test till end of this months but I am traveling next week and need a working phone.
Best regards,
dingolino
iosub said:
thanks! I will try ..
btw, did you ask to dutty if he knows a solution?
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dingolino said:
Yes I have asked Dutty and he was so kind and made a quick test rom but also no change.
Normlay the stock roms have .NET 2.0 and I install .NET 3.5 so I was thinking that maybe there is the root cause for the behaviour, but the old WWE 1.5 from Dutty has also .NET 3.5 integrated.
Could it have something to do with policies, safety features, certificates which are missing in a cooked rom and left behind for space and speed reasons?
We have now for test purpose a new sync software installed - msuite - to see if this is changing. I have to test till end of this months but I am traveling next week and need a working phone.
Best regards,
dingolino
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Hi
Are you talking about this rom?
Duttys Leo Sense 2.5 Multi-Lang 6.5.5 V1.5 |WWE|SVE|DE|ITA|FRA|NLD|SPA|DAN|NOR|PTG
Based Rom 1.75 ( CE OS Build 5.2.23563.5.5.0)
thanks

No I am talking about Version 1.5 based on 1.66 but WM 6.5 not 6.5.x,
Duttys_Leo_Sense_2.5_5.2.21889.5.0.87_1.66_Multi_Lang_V1.5_WWE
Best regards,
dingolino
iosub said:
Hi
Are you talking about this rom?
Duttys Leo Sense 2.5 Multi-Lang 6.5.5 V1.5 |WWE|SVE|DE|ITA|FRA|NLD|SPA|DAN|NOR|PTG
Based Rom 1.75 ( CE OS Build 5.2.23563.5.5.0)
thanks
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Hi
any chef jump on this???
Thanks!

It seem that there are more people affected by the same problem.
Issue seems to be related to the latest manila versions 2.5.2012. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=669324
Older manila 2.5.1920 does not show this contact lockup issue.
Those having the problem, can you please advise if your company is deploying IT policies on your phone when you sync the first time with exchange? This is what may be creating the problem.

The same issue here!
My company applies only a Password policy to the phone (screen is locked after 2 minutes and password is needed to unlock it)
Kind Regards,
Weave

im not using exchange or any syncing but im having the problem

lbhocky19 said:
im not using exchange or any syncing but im having the problem
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do you have emails? gmail ? hotmail ?

HI..
Update first Post
I will gift with 100€ for the first chef that can Fix this (using 2.5.2x manila & VM 6.5.x)

Updated post one with a temporal Trick..
Iosu

New manila packages from LEO 2.13
the Leo 2.13 ROM has upgraded all the packages related to the contacts.
Hopefully the problem is gone.
I've seen a few ROM for the LEO already released with this new packages (E.G. Miri). Anyone has tried if the problem appear in these new ROMs?

I have this same problem. Sense 2.12/Exchange 2003 server with NO policies. Removing email sync on my exchange account does not help. One things I've noticed is that it only happens when I choose my a certain contact (MY wife!) as one of my favorites. I chose six other favorites and they all were added with no problem. I tried completely deleting the contact and recreating it but the results were the same.

I managed to solve the problem by exporting my contacts from exchnage via pimbackup and completely removing exchange account. That's obviously NOT an ideal solution.
Even without exchange, it seemed a little laggy when I added my favorites. Since some people without exchnage are reporting the issue, I wonder if the issue be caused by having a large number of contacts (I had 65 Exchange contacts) with the contacts being from Exchange making the problem worse.

Leo 2.13 doesn't seem to solve the problem.
I've cooked a ROM using the following updated packages from Leo2.13, but unfortunatelly I got the same problem.
Contact_Picker_1_0_20143220_00
Contact_Utility_Engine_1_2_20141225_00
Facebook_Engine_1_1_20143627_00
HTCMessaging_Client_1_5_20143625_00
Social_Networks_Engine_1_1_20113927_01
I haven't been able yet to identify which package is responsible for the lockup, but I'll be cooking a new ROM with these packages from the old 1.66 ROM
If anyone have a clear idea of which package is producing the problem, please let us know.