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Rooting from Donut

So I'm assuming that the "One Click Root" method is not going to work in Donut. Is that correct?
If so, I'll need to downgrade to Cupcake first. Does anyone have a download link? Is there anything I need to do before applying the update.zip to downgrade?
Thanks for your support

OolonColuphid said:
So I'm assuming that the "One Click Root" method is not going to work in Donut. Is that correct?
If so, I'll need to downgrade to Cupcake first. Does anyone have a download link? Is there anything I need to do before applying the update.zip to downgrade?
Thanks for your support
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Go read the many stickies on rooting. You don't downgrade to Cupcake, you downgrade all the way back to RC29.

cigar3tte said:
Go read the many stickies on rooting. You don't downgrade to Cupcake, you downgrade all the way back to RC29.
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Your suggestion doesn't make any sense since there are plenty of devices that shipped with 1.5 (i.e. rogers dream), which happen to be quite incompatible with 1.0 firmware. It is therefore impossible to downgrade to rc29.
If you're *very lucky*, the bootloader you have won't enforce versions and might actually allow downgrading to 1.5, in which case the 1c-root procedure will work.

lbcoder said:
Your suggestion doesn't make any sense since there are plenty of devices that shipped with 1.5 (i.e. rogers dream), which happen to be quite incompatible with 1.0 firmware. It is therefore impossible to downgrade to rc29.
If you're *very lucky*, the bootloader you have won't enforce versions and might actually allow downgrading to 1.5, in which case the 1c-root procedure will work.
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My apologies, only thought of the G1.

lbcoder said:
Your suggestion doesn't make any sense since there are plenty of devices that shipped with 1.5 (i.e. rogers dream), which happen to be quite incompatible with 1.0 firmware. It is therefore impossible to downgrade to rc29.
If you're *very lucky*, the bootloader you have won't enforce versions and might actually allow downgrading to 1.5, in which case the 1c-root procedure will work.
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Are you saying that I wouldn't be able to root using the "traditional" method?

OolonColuphid said:
Are you saying that I wouldn't be able to root using the "traditional" method?
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Post your phone info before you ask that.

cigar3tte said:
Post your phone info before you ask that.
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Sorry. It's a US T-Mobile G1

I would like to know the answer to this too. I was updating to 4.1.999, something went wrong and now im on 1.6 dev phone firmware. Im not sure if i can go back to rc29 or not or if i should even try. Won't going back to RC29 with the new SPL brick my phone?
(Current) Details are
G1 / Dream phone
firmware 1.6
hard SPL
Build: dream_devphone-userdebug 1.6 DRC83 14721 test-keys
Normal recovery console
Thanks

HardSPL won't brick phones, not to the same degree as dangerSPL anyways.

If you have a REAL SPL (i.e. Engineering, or Hard -- can't imagine why anyone would want that though since it doesn't offer any real advantage over Engineering), then there is ABSOLUTELY NO REASON to go flashing nbh's/downgrade to rc29. The reason for this is that these bootloaders do NOT enforce signatures, and DO allow full access to the system. The only reason for going to rc29 is if you have a RECENT VERSION UNHACKED device that is CARRIER BRANDED (and happens to be compatible).
If you have Engineering SPL or similar, then the ONLY thing that nbh's will do is RISK CREATING A BRICK.
Yes, you can brick *any* time you write an NBH, IPL, or SPL (not just the deathspl). Chances are low, but if something goes wrong, its dead.
sprarky said:
I would like to know the answer to this too. I was updating to 4.1.999, something went wrong and now im on 1.6 dev phone firmware. Im not sure if i can go back to rc29 or not or if i should even try. Won't going back to RC29 with the new SPL brick my phone?
(Current) Details are
G1 / Dream phone
firmware 1.6
hard SPL
Build: dream_devphone-userdebug 1.6 DRC83 14721 test-keys
Normal recovery console
Thanks
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lbcoder said:
If you have a REAL SPL (i.e. Engineering, or Hard -- can't imagine why anyone would want that though since it doesn't offer any real advantage over Engineering), then there is ABSOLUTELY NO REASON to go flashing nbh's/downgrade to rc29. The reason for this is that these bootloaders do NOT enforce signatures, and DO allow full access to the system. The only reason for going to rc29 is if you have a RECENT VERSION UNHACKED device that is CARRIER BRANDED (and happens to be compatible).
If you have Engineering SPL or similar, then the ONLY thing that nbh's will do is RISK CREATING A BRICK.
Yes, you can brick *any* time you write an NBH, IPL, or SPL (not just the deathspl). Chances are low, but if something goes wrong, its dead.
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OK cool. Thanks for that. That confirms a few things for me.
Now this might seem a little ignorant but how do i get my root back now? I have done several searches but couldn't really find anything that confirms the exact method for this situation.
If there is no reason to go back to RC29 and do that whole process again then whats the other way of doing it?
As i now have the normal recovery console back any attempt to try and flash CM's just results in the phone telling me i cant su (or don't have root)
Thanks again

Sounds like you have acess to fastboot with your spl you could use fastboot to flash cyanogen's or whichever recovery image you choose, then you would be able flash any rom's you would like through recovery

jackslim said:
Sounds like you have acess to fastboot with your spl you could use fastboot to flash cyanogen's or whichever recovery image you choose, then you would be able flash any rom's you would like through recovery
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Yeah i do! that sounds exactly like what i need to do. You know of a how-to anywhere for doing this?
Cheers

Do you already have fastboot installed on your pc?? If not a simple search of theese forums can yield you instructions on setting up fastboot. Once you have it installed you can open up a terminal and go the directory in which your recovery image is stored and run the command
fastboot flash recovery cm-recovery1.4.img assuming you're using cyanogen's recovery

jackslim said:
Do you already have fastboot installed on your pc?? If not a simple search of theese forums can yield you instructions on setting up fastboot. Once you have it installed you can open up a terminal and go the directory in which your recovery image is stored and run the command
fastboot flash recovery cm-recovery1.4.img assuming you're using cyanogen's recovery
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Hey,
Thanks for your help. Managed to get it all working they way you described after some searching and a few hours. Thanks again dude.
OolonColuphid - Hope i didn't hijack your thread too badly. Does any of the above information help you out at all? I found it fairly easy to flash the recovery from fastboot then flash back to whatever i want via the recovery console.
Cheers,
Sean

Alright, I've been doing some reading up on rooting and it sounds interesting. I tried following the steps on theUnlockr.com but keep running into issues. Just FYI, I recently upgraded to 1.6 Donut from 1.5 thru a phone update so it is NOT stock in my phone. Please let me know what I need to do (in lamens terms) so I can get this going.
G1/Dream
Firmware 1.6 Donut
Build Number: DRC83
Please let me know what I need to do (in lamens terms) so I can get this going.

ephayzee said:
Alright, I've been doing some reading up on rooting and it sounds interesting. I tried following the steps on theUnlockr.com but keep running into issues. Just FYI, I recently upgraded to 1.6 Donut from 1.5 thru a phone update so it is NOT stock in my phone. Please let me know what I need to do (in lamens terms) so I can get this going.
G1/Dream
Firmware 1.6 Donut
Build Number: DRC83
Please let me know what I need to do (in lamens terms) so I can get this going.
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You're phone is still considered stock because it has unmodified software on it, even though you have 1.6 it's through the official OTA update whether installed manually or recieved in due time over your network. You can root your phone, pretty much just follow the steps outlined in this guide found on theese forums
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442480

jackslim said:
You're phone is still considered stock because it has unmodified software on it, even though you have 1.6 it's through the official OTA update whether installed manually or recieved in due time over your network. You can root your phone, pretty much just follow the steps outlined in this guide found on theese forums
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442480
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Good looking man, thanks!

Does FlashRec still work on donut, or have they patched that exploit?

OolonColuphid said:
Does FlashRec still work on donut, or have they patched that exploit?
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OMG! can u not read!

Ok, so I want to update...

Ok, so I want to update to 1.6 aka "Donut", and as you may notice by looking at my signature. I have a Rooted MT3G, do I need to un-root my MT3G first? or can I update while my MT3G is rooted?

Jay_8698 said:
Ok, so I want to update to 1.6 aka "Donut", and as you may notice by looking at my signature. I have a Rooted MT3G, do I need to un-root my MT3G first? or can I update while my MT3G is rooted?
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you can just flash the 1.6 ota just like you would a rom.... update.zip
this is the the plain 1.6 (donut) rom
http://developer.htc.com/google-io-device.html
there are also a ton of cooked 1.6 roms in the dev section if you wanna go that route

You'll need to wipe going from Cupcake to Donut so it doesn't really matter whether you have Root or not.
If you just want plain Donut, use that link above.
If you want Donut with root, use nk02's ROM.
If you want Donut with tether, apps2sd and all that stuff there are a few ROMs around now. Check out Amon_RA's Donut or Dwang's Donut ROM.
Of course, fastboot Amon_RA's Recovery to perform a nandroid backup of your stock phone (incase you ever have to send it in for warranty) and to flash the new zip.

Ok, so I used the guide here and every time I tried to install the 1.6 update. It said no signature found, the only reason I can think of this is because I have a ROM file named "update".
Can I delete the ROM file off my myTouch once I installed it or do I need to keep it there so the ROM would keep working?
Can anyone explain why the 1.6 update isn't working for me?
Thank you.

Jay_8698 said:
Ok, so I used the guide here and every time I tried to install the 1.6 update. It said no signature found, the only reason I can think of this is because I have a ROM file named "update".
Can I delete the ROM file off my myTouch once I installed it or do I need to keep it there so the ROM would keep working?
Can anyone explain why the 1.6 update isn't working for me?
Thank you.
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It is the exact same process as you did to your hero rom. It looks like you already did the 1 touch root so simply turn on phone and then mount phone via cable and transfer the file and rename it "update.zip". After that, disconnect the cable and turn off the phone and then hold the home + power button. Wipe the data and then install the update like you did before and voila, you're done.
To see it all in a video, I believe I followed this when I did it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1o2ujqazjcY

HBOOT 1.49.0200 and 2.1 RUU

I just recently rooted my phone with the new methods and also did the bootloader mod as well. My question is what would happen if I flashed the stock RUU of the latest OTA on my phone that has the 1.49.0200 S=OFF bootloader and Amon_RA's recovery installed? I know it would un root the phone but would the custom recovery and engineering bootloader be intact still? Basically what I want to do is have a stock ROM with superuser support. Thats it. OTA notifications would still show up but I would just ignore them. I'm guessing if the recovery and bootloader were not touched by the RUU I would just flash my overclocking-kernel-v3 and EngTools to root though recovery.
Thanks in advanced. You guys are great. Keep up the great work. You have my full support.

If you want a stock ROM with SU just get plain jane. Or install SU by putting the .apk on the phone.

Why not use a rom like Ivan's or Plain Jane?

FunkyFender said:
Why not use a rom like Ivan's or Plain Jane?
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I have this obsession with having things as close to stock as possible. I would just prefer the "stock" way even with the apps like Amazon MP3 and other stuff still installed. I also just wanted to know what are some limitations of the engineering bootloader like if I did upgrade to a new official OTA in the future.

amoeller said:
I have this obsession with having things as close to stock as possible. I would just prefer the "stock" way even with the apps like Amazon MP3 and other stuff still installed. I also just wanted to know what are some limitations of the engineering bootloader like if I did upgrade to a new official OTA in the future.
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If you flashed the current RUU it wouldn't mess with hboot so you would be able to flash a recovery and add root to the rom.
And if the update thats coming doesn't mess with hboot you should be able to add root to it later, but we don't know if it will mess with hboot.

It would be very easy to simply keep everything the same in the OTA rom and just add su

also im pretty sure u cant use the RUU if you have the bootloader 1.49.200 because the bootloader on the RUU is 1.49.000 so its lower it wont go.

amoeller said:
I have this obsession with having things as close to stock as possible.
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I'd suggest you actually take a look at the ROMs suggested. They might surprise you how "stock" they are.

I rooted my phone back when I had HBOOT 1.47, and it brought me to 1.49.200 for root, and I flashed the RUU and it brought me back down to 1.49.000.

Downgrade Problem!

I have searched and searched, tried every method, but I am offically stuck (I think) - I'm prepping a rooted Eris for return - i had previously been able to flash the 2.1 RUU to return to stock, but it now will not work - I guess somewhere along the lines of rooting/ROM flashing my bootloader has changed (it is now v1.49.000) - I can't get any RUU to work (get ERROR in RUU interface) - I have also tried flashing a P00IMG through HBOOT, but it also errors out (something is older than something else - forgot exactly) - I have tried flashing new HBOOT/Recovery Image through ADB per a JCASE post, but that will not work either - I've gotten older ROM's loaded that will allow for new OTA updates, but they ultimately will not work (signature issues i believe) -
So the question is, is there a method that will get me back to 2.1 "stock" & get rid of Amon Ra recovery?
Again, I have searched and tried every method I could find - I have updated my SDK - help anyone?

Ive seen people just send in rooted ones without any problem, so I dont know if they'll check. But if your worried, i would just flash a 2.1 rom that looks like the stock, cause i dont think they'll know the difference.

Do you have a Nandroid backup from when you first rooted?

crax0r said:
Do you have a Nandroid backup from when you first rooted?
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Unfortunately I don't have it - you wanna loan me yours?
I'm only kind of kidding....

download unzipme.zip which jcase removed on xda from here http://androidmobileos.com/?p=14928 Inside theres dowgrade rom that you flash through custom recovery (which ever one you use). After that you just follow the instructions (adb parts). Works very well. If you will have any issues with adb part as far as flashing back to stock recovery and hboot than check your hboot version and make sure its s-off. If its not you can get it s-off with batery pull trick.

i had an issue like this where the ruu would say that my phone was disconnected and told me to connect it to the computer,i was on a froyo rom,i flashed a 2.1 rom and the ruu worked,just an fyi just incase this might help if you want to return to stock 2.1,once you run the ruu and sync with google you wiil receive the july update also.
sent from my Eris using Tapatalk pro

Need Step Process on Reverting to Stock 2.2 Then Full Root...

I wanna wipe radio/pri/prl/rom/custom recovery/EVERYTHING completely to a stock 2.2 froyo sprint rom WITHOUT root and custom recovery.
After i return my phone to 2.2 like i just got it from sprint...
Then i want to full root it and have the new 1.8 RA recovery...
I guess whatever custom rom i go back to from there, i'll decide.. but for now
I want a piece of mind that my phone is properly working like it should from factory.
Thanks for any assistance on what proper steps i should take.

TorxT3D said:
I wanna wipe radio/pri/prl/rom/custom recovery/EVERYTHING completely to a stock 2.2 froyo sprint rom WITHOUT root and custom recovery.
After i return my phone to 2.2 like i just got it from sprint...
Then i want to full root it and have the new 1.8 RA recovery...
I guess whatever custom rom i go back to from there, i'll decide.. but for now
I want a piece of mind that my phone is properly working like it should from factory.
Thanks for any assistance on what proper steps i should take.
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Firstly, how did you root your phone? I see your join date is from '07, so you aren't a newbie that came on here in June when you got your Evo (like me.....lol). If you rooted the "old school" way using toast's method, all you have to do is flash a Sprint RUU (any Sprint RUU, as it will prompt you to the an OTA update to 2.2 even if you flash an older RUU) and your phone goes back to stock. If you rooted with Unrevoked Forever that keeps S-off, then it may be more complicated. I wouldn't be able to tell you because I've personally never used any of the Unrevoked team's stuff.

oh, sorry for lack of pre-rooting details.
yea launch phone with(at the time) 2.1, and i used that 3 button OTA simpleroot.
can i flash the sprint ruu 2.2, then use the new unrevoked?
do i need to wipe any details with ##786#?