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Sweet!

So who is getting one when it drops?

It's just another Android phone, nothing special.
They really need to use another form factor to sell it.

my contract is not over until this october.

I got the Eris back in December, but it looks like I may sell it to purchase this, just because it has a better cpu that will offer more support in the longer run and camera with flash(like my previous phone).

I'm getting one if my wife lets me
Otherwise I'm up for renewal 11 Jan 2011

I've had my G1 since April, and I feel like this might be the first phone to make me leave. Nexus was tempting, but the 5 mp camera was lackluster considering the X10 had a better camera and I knew better stuff would be coming out. After the Evo was announced I planned on getting one, but I played with a T Mobile HD2 today, and it was just too big. I had to move my hand to reach the top of the screen. Looks like I'm coming to Verizon!

Annoyed the desire didn't come with this 8meg sensor lol
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my friend just got his droid recently, and will be under 30 days when the preorder starts to roll, so he lucked out and will be getting this!
after seeing my n1, hes jealous! and now happy that he will be getting this!

I'm definitely going to get it if they did something about the multitouch issues or the pink hues on the LCD screen. I really doubt they fixed either though (I'm guessing it has the same parts as the N1 and Desire), so I'm going or wait and see. I may end up with the Motorola Shadow, I don't know yet.

iamrobk said:
I'm definitely going to get it if they did something about the multitouch issues or the pink hues on the LCD screen. I really doubt they fixed either though (I'm guessing it has the same parts as the N1 and Desire), so I'm going or wait and see. I may end up with the Motorola Shadow, I don't know yet.
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That has been resolved there are multiple test showing improvement of multi-touch over the nexus one

[ElCondor] said:
It's just another Android phone, nothing special.
They really need to use another form factor to sell it.
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I dunno. It has the memory my Droid is missing.has a decent camera as well. Throw Swype on it and it might be the first phone I've bought in a long time without a physical keyboard. I'll wait and see how rooting and battery life goes, but I think this is a likely purchase for me. Only a few things I don't care for with the Droid, but they seem to be addressed with this phone.

I wish there was a GSM version of the phone! Selling it in the future would be, oh, so much easier.

Come on... all I want is physical keyboard. Though I admit the back of the device looks sexy as hell (and I realize not everyone will like it).

OH YEAH
Pre-ordered mine! Can't wait for Thursday to come...unless I get lucky and Verizon decides to ship mine early too!! Switching from XV6900 with NFSFAN WM 6.5. Excited to try out Android, personally hope Android grows bigger than Apple and their iphone. Can't stand Apple products...

Evo is too big!

Has anyone else noticed the Evo is way too big to be a phone? I'm glade i'm waiting for the next 4g phone. Who really wants to watch a movie on their phone? I just hope the Devs stay with the Hero!

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Has anyone else noticed the Evo is way too big to be a phone? I'm glade i'm waiting for the next 4g phone. Who really wants to watch a movie on their phone? I just hope the Devs stay with the Hero!
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I agree. I handled the a dummy Evo yesterday at a Radio Shack, and it is half way to being a tablet. It would be nice to browse the web with that screen, but I already carry a ultralight laptop for that. I want the speed and processing power of the Evo, but in a form factor no bigger than my current hero.

I think a Sprint Nexus One would be the best compromise

the evo is a tad too big. any bigger and it'll be a droidpad. im staying with the hero for awhile. the only thing i like about the evo more than the hero is
1. 720p screen res
2. 8mp camera (5 is still awsome)
3. 1ghz snapdragon
4. 4g(which isnt all that great at the moment.
the hero is still a kickass phone

Yeah, that thing is like a brick in your pocket.

I just read the specs for the Hero 2 and it does not have the snapdragon or a faster processor. Sounds kinda lame, now I wish we were getting the N1.

What's wrong with Hero 1?

The problem is, it's not the latest and greatest anymore. Everyone, save a few, always want what's new and hot at the moment. As soon as the next phone comes out, all these people will be saying how much the EVO sucks in comparison.

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I just read the specs for the Hero 2 and it does not have the snapdragon or a faster processor. Sounds kinda lame, now I wish we were getting the N1.
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Link? I can only find rumor posts from February.

After browsing the Evo forums and hearing of all the disappointing realizations that clears 4g is not all it's hyped up to be and real world speeds are hardly impressive more often than not i cant help but chuckle. Not to mention as the OP said that thing is like a 1/8 scale ipad! plus im not going to fork over $450 for the first 4g device that will inevitably have it's fair share of bugs more than it already has. And for such a big screen u would thing HTC would have at least implemented 256k colors at the minimum. I know AMOLEDs are a bit more expensive. Why the 65k cap? I bought the hero back in October when it first came out so my Premier upgrade isn't due til this October. Id rather wait until 4g gets developed further and coverage increases dramatically. Plus i've got my hero rooted, overclocked, customized and running like a dream. I can live without the extra 232 mhZ (im running 768mhZ) til something a bit more solid comes to the market. My hero and i have been thru a lot and it can still do just about everything the Evo can do just at slightly less speed and fashion but i'm perfectly content with that. But inevitably this forum will fade into the background as most forums do when a new device is released cuz everyone feels like they have to be part of the new phone bandwagon every time something better comes out. Just like cp0200 said the hero is a badass phone if u customize it just right. Hopefully a few devs will stick around

I picked my EVO up at 8:00 AM yesterday, and returned it around noon today. One of my reasons for returning it was the disappointing performance of 4G here in Kansas City. I get better, more consistent speeds with 3G. Another reason was the size of the thing. I agree with you all, it is too big. I think if they had gone with a 3.7 inch screen, it would have been the perfect size. Every time I handled it, I was afraid that I was going to drop it. These two things had me wanting my Hero back.

To be perfectly honest, I'm completely disappointed with the EVO. I don't have one, but I've played with my friends, and my Hero just feels so much more stable. It might be that I'm running Darchdroid, or it might be that I just like the phone more.
The EVO is wayyy too big. I want my phone to fit in my pocket comfortably.
The software is the same HTC Sense crap. Why can't Sprint get a good vanilla Android phone? I was so excited when I heard the Nexus One was coming to Sprint and soooo disappointed when I heard it was cancelled for the EVO. And now that the EVO is out, I'm even more upset. The Nexus One is the perfect size and is plenty fast for my taste.
I found out I earned my upgrade last month, but there is no way I'm going to use it on the EVO. The extra $10 a month, crappy 4G I've been hearing about, and just the general unappealing aesthetics of the phone are more than enough to make me never want one for myself. I love my Hero, and I'll love it until I can get a decent vanilla Android phone on Sprint. Or I'll terminate early and go to T-Mobile... I've already been offered to have my ETF covered by them.

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Or I'll terminate early and go to T-Mobile... I've already been offered to have my ETF covered by them.
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If TMo's service wasn't so crappy where I live I would've stayed with them but obviously reliable service is more important than which carrier has the coolest phones

I dont think the EVO is too big, I think my Hero is too small when I can upgrade I will, I want a bigger touch screen, makes it easier to type IMO

assuming something better doesn't come out by october, that Evo will be hanging out in my back pocket (when it's not busy being worked hard in my hands), much the same way my Hero sits in my back pocket most of the time

That's what she said.

ripleys said:
I picked my EVO up at 8:00 AM yesterday, and returned it around noon today. One of my reasons for returning it was the disappointing performance of 4G here in Kansas City. I get better, more consistent speeds with 3G. Another reason was the size of the thing. I agree with you all, it is too big. I think if they had gone with a 3.7 inch screen, it would have been the perfect size. Every time I handled it, I was afraid that I was going to drop it. These two things had me wanting my Hero back.
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kc w00t w00t. kegs and eggs june 16th mumford and sons is playing 5am at firefly lounge. back on topic yea i really want the evo but i know something better will be out shortly. i may end up getting it anyway though

I agree with most of the comments here.
I checked one out here in Manhattan, and the 4G speeds were not too great.
It just feels way too big.
And someone commented before, it's the same 2.1 Sense ****. Feels laggy.
I am staying with Hero until the end of the year, then looking at my options.

The EVO is not too big. Your hands are too small
It is like a micro tablet computer, which is what I LOVE about it!!!
The thing is freakin awesome.

If you guys thing the EVO is too big, have you seen the Dell Streak specs?? It has a full 5 inch screen! And I want one of those too LOL

An HTC rant

To start off, I'd like to let you guys know that I'm a diehard Android and HTC fan. I have the ADP1, the Nexus One, and now the Evo. I was extremely excited about the Evo on launch day (like many of you). Now that much of this excitement has been killed by the recent plague of Evo problems, I'd like to share my concerns:
On my first Evo, I had some pretty bad light leaking from the soft keys. I returned that unit, only to receive what appears to be a refurbished unit. (Good luck trying to explain what light leaking is to the Sprint reps. The lady rolled her eyes at me trying to convince her this problem does in fact exist.) The new unit still had some very slight leakage, and the kickstand was also scratched up. I decided to suck it up and live with it, but the next few days made things worse.
Then we learned about the 30fps cap, touchscreen input lag, the screen lifting up, poor wifi reception, and probably still more to come...Seeing as HTC hasn't even acknowledged these issues, I don't think there will be a fix within my 30 day grace period. As much as I love what this phone COULD be, I'm stuck with what it really is; a bunch of high end components carelessly thrown together...
But not all is lost! HTC still has a chance to fix this! There are still about 20 days before I (and many others) return the Evo. I really hope HTC manages to fix this, whether its through a recall, or something else. I beg of you HTC: Fix your flagship device! It's sinking! (See what I did there?)

Thank god for 30 day full return of all money paid am I right?
P.S. you GOTTA know any 1st gen device you buy is gonna have hardware problems to be ironed out. Don't want to deal with them? Wait for the 2nd gen device a year from now
Example: Theres no way in hell I would buy an iPad due to it being a 1st gen device. I already knew before it came out that it would have hardware problems...

Ryan Frawley said:
Then we learned about the 30fps cap, touchscreen input lag, the screen lifting up, poor wifi reception, and probably still more to come...
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Of the things you listed, defective wifi and the screen lifting up are the only items that are actual defects and neither are present on my Evo. Additionally, my wifi reception is awesome, so I don't agree that that there is a global issue there either.
Actual defects are covered for 1 full year, which is about 6-8 months longer than I intend to keep the Evo (pending what is released). If my screen starts peeling or my wifi actually stops working I will RMA it for another.
I just want to suggest that maybe some of the "issues" users experience are beyond what is reasonable. What do you think?

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Actual defects are covered for 1 full year, which is about 6-8 months longer than I intend to keep the Evo (pending what is released)
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Wow
Must be nice to be so rich!

ap3604 said:
Wow
Must be nice to be so rich!
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Ha! I wish. Sprint Premier users can upgrade once per year... Unfortunately I paid a bit for an Evo so my upgrade will be ready come October (One year anniversary from the Hero release date). I hope there is something that convinces me to use it!

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Of the things you listed, defective wifi and the screen lifting up are the only items that are actual defects and neither are present on my Evo. Additionally, my wifi reception is awesome, so I don't agree that that there is a global issue there either.
Actual defects are covered for 1 full year, which is about 6-8 months longer than I intend to keep the Evo (pending what is released). If my screen starts peeling or my wifi actually stops working I will RMA it for another.
I just want to suggest that maybe some of the "issues" users experience are beyond what is reasonable. What do you think?
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None of these issues are particularly bad by themselves. But they are all quickly adding up to signs of poor quality control over at HTC.

danknee said:
Ha! I wish. Sprint Premier users can upgrade once per year... Unfortunately I paid a bit for an Evo so my upgrade will be ready come October (One year anniversary from the Hero release date). I hope there is something that convinces me to use it!
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I heard that when you activate any new phone, your upgrade eligibility bumps up to that date. I got this from a Sprint rep while planning to buy my Evo. So I won't be eligible for another year.

I agree with the guy on this board that said not to buy any first gen device, because most of the time it will have problems to work out. I haven't experienced any of the problems that some people seem to have, obviously out of hundreds of thousands there will be some problems and HTC and Sprint will deal with them as they come, hopefully in a timely manner.
I wouldn't return your EVO. Its a decent phone and good piece of hardware.

ap3604 said:
Thank god for 30 day full return of all money paid am I right?
P.S. you GOTTA know any 1st gen device you buy is gonna have hardware problems to be ironed out. Don't want to deal with them? Wait for the 2nd gen device a year from now
Example: Theres no way in hell I would buy an iPad due to it being a 1st gen device. I already knew before it came out that it would have hardware problems...
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Err, the iPad is actually a bad example to use as a 1st gen device NOT to buy as it is really solid with no hardware problems. Pls name one hardware defect the iPad has?

orris said:
I heard that when you activate any new phone, your upgrade eligibility bumps up to that date. I got this from a Sprint rep while planning to buy my Evo. So I won't be eligible for another year.
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My eligibility date still shows 10/01/10. You can check yours here. I will wait one billing cycle and check again to be sure. If not, then my gf is getting a used Evo to replace her Hero and I'll get whatever the next thing is.

I agree with the OP and about to do the same before my 30 days are up.
I just can't see the EVO running almost every game i put on it slower than the N1 and not to mention some games are just too choppy to play.
HTC had the exact same issue with the HD2 and they NEVER fixed it.
I hope that due to all the media attention the fps issue received, HTC will fix it in a timely manner.
The phone is great and all, but the N1 just beats it for now. at least for me.

clubtech said:
The phone is great and all, but the N1 just beats it for now. at least for me.
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Especially now that the N1 has 720p video recording that looks better then ours >.<

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Especially now that the N1 has 720p video recording that looks better then ours >.<
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Man... I wish I had the stone's to root my Nexus One...
Just a certifiable chicken

but what makes anyone think the HTC will be rolling out a 2nd gen EVO? It seems like every year they come out with completely new devices with different names and whatnot. Granted most internals would be the same but overall, the devices are new.

does htc just have a bad habit of using poor adhesive?
n1 from reports, touch pro from experience and now the evo. how many other htc phones have the problem?
i doubt i'll ever buy another htc phone again - heck before 26 days i may not even have this one anymore.

yep this is gonna b my last "High Tech Computers"phone.so much promises and hype they create before launch and once we get the device after falling for their trap we stuck with it.no more preordering anything for now on for me,jus gonna sit back and READ.

You aren't stuck with anything. Return it.

Uhh, have you been hiding in a cave???
LordLugard said:
Err, the iPad is actually a bad example to use as a 1st gen device NOT to buy as it is really solid with no hardware problems. Pls name one hardware defect the iPad has?
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Well, within a few days tons of iPad customers reported issues with Wi-Fi, which Apple confirmed.
I have read issues with some iPads overheating. (Just run a quick google search for 'ipad issues' and you'll see plenty of problems).
More recently, Apple/AT&T managed to leak 100,000+ customers email addresses.
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Is the iPad a poorly made/designed product? NO. Though I do not own one, I will be the first to admit it's a fantastic device.
However, just like any other 1st-gen piece of hardware sold to the masses, issues are bound to crop up, and the EVO is no exception.

LordLugard said:
Err, the iPad is actually a bad example to use as a 1st gen device NOT to buy as it is really solid with no hardware problems. Pls name one hardware defect the iPad has?
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Cant hold wifi. This is a known issue.

orris said:
I heard that when you activate any new phone, your upgrade eligibility bumps up to that date. I got this from a Sprint rep while planning to buy my Evo. So I won't be eligible for another year.
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That was not my experience. I upgraded in May 09 to a Samsung Rant, then bought a Touch/Vogue a few months later off ebay and activated it on my account but I was still able to upgrade as of May 2010 to my happy little Evo.

Wondering if Incredible 2 is worth it? Yes, yes it is.

Got it a few hours ago. On paper, the specs but don't seem like a huge upgrade, but when you actually use it, you can tell it is.
It's fast. No hiccups, lag, or anything. You may say, "my dinc doesn't have any lag or slowdown either," but when you mess with a dinc 2 you will see what I mean. Screen is gorgeous. Phone feels excellent. Speaker is less "tinny" than the original.
I still need to mess with a ton of other stuff, but if you have any questions, let me know.

I'm most concerned with if/when it gets rooted. And how many dev's it picks up. Looks like quite a few of them already went to the Thunderbolt. I'm not due for an upgrade until July 2012 anyway, so when that date comes, who knows what will be out, but I will probably go with whatever is already rooted, and has the most development.

I had one a few days ago, and honestly, the "faster" tihng is really overblown. A menu screen may pop up a microsecond faster, but it wasn;t any more useable or anything. And the glare on that screen could cut glass.

BrettApple said:
I'm most concerned with if/when it gets rooted. And how many dev's it picks up. Looks like quite a few of them already went to the Thunderbolt. I'm not due for an upgrade until July 2012 anyway, so when that date comes, who knows what will be out, but I will probably go with whatever is already rooted, and has the most development.
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Definitely agree with this, wonder what will be hot in development next summer.
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Engadget just gave the Galaxy S II a 9/10. And they hate android. It looks really nice - if it comes out on Verizon, I will have to think really hard about saying no...

I don't know what my next phone will be. I can't upgrade until March but I know I want an LTE phone and front facing camera and the dinc 2 only has one of my wants.
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I got one this morning and I'm liking it. I needed a world phone so it was a no-brainer for me. I like the screen size as compared to my dinc1. It's a good compromise with having a bigger screen without being one of the 4.3" phones that I thought were too big.
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Jes7er said:
Engadget just gave the Galaxy S II a 9/10. And they hate android. It looks really nice - if it comes out on Verizon, I will have to think really hard about saying no...
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I'm comming from a fascinate unless they fix their updating process and the file system don't buy any samsung phone...

Yea my upgrade isn't up until December I tried to talk my talk today, but it didn't get me anywhere.

What Sense version is it? What kernel? Is it drm protected so it can do netflix? I noticed on the vzw website it has the same processor as the Thunderbolt. So don't know if it would be. Also noticed it doesn't have a trackball or optical joystick. Thats gonna suck.

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What Sense version is it? What kernel? Is it drm protected so it can do netflix? I noticed on the vzw website it has the same processor as the Thunderbolt. So don't know if it would be. Also noticed it doesn't have a trackball or optical joystick. Thats gonna suck.
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I read somewhere that it's Sense 2.0. The kernel is 2.6.35.9. Don't know about drm.
As for the trackball/optical, i'm glad it doesn't have it. I never used it on my dinc1.

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I read somewhere that it's Sense 2.0. The kernel is 2.6.35.9. Don't know about drm.
As for the trackball/optical, i'm glad it doesn't have it. I never used it on my dinc1.
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Sense is version 2.00.0000.339629

Guess I'll have to play with one to check out the glare thing. DI2 is just the size I was looking for, but no dual core and no LTE, made me actually consider waiting for the GS2..... or better.

I believe its sense 2.1 and I personally like the optical joystick as well.
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All questions answered here:
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/controller?item=phoneFirst&action=viewPhoneDetail&selectedPhoneId=5641&deviceCategoryId=1

Im playin with one now at verizon and neither it or the tbolt are a big enough upgrade over the dinc for me. Tbolt maybe, dinc 2, no way. Im runnin optimized z and my phone is way smoother. Inc2 screen only slightly bigger, ive got a z camera that is the same. Dinc2 is already outdated IMO.
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I'm most concerned with if/when it gets rooted. And how many dev's it picks up. Looks like quite a few of them already went to the Thunderbolt...
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That's a big concern for me. I just picked up the DInc2 yesterday....at retail price. Why? Both my wife and I are deaf and we live in what you would call a rather remote area, but at least have VZW tower nearby. A 4G/LTE phone is overkill when one lives nearly 2 hours to the first traffic light. So, on paper, as a 3G phone with video chat capability at a lower price then the LTE stuff, the DInc2 really fits the bill by giving me video chat so my wife and I can sign to each other when in different locations. That's a big plus.
BUT... as I scout all the normal forums I've used for my Droid 1, Droid X and Nook, the DInc2 looks like a real sleeper in terms of dev interest. This is my first HTC phone and even though the Motorola Droid has that %*&$#@ 'locked' bootloader, there's still a lot of options as well as the leaked restore files. I don't really want to root a phone until the point where there's some solid dev work as well as the ability to restore after screwing something up.
So, since like I mentioned, we're nearly 2 hours to the first traffic light and the nearest VZW store is just beyond that, I may bring it back on Tuesday when we're in the area and wait for the next suitable phone that has video chat capabilities. I've always used VZW's one-year contract and now that this option has bit the dust, I don't want to sign a two-year extension at the end of the year unless its for a phone that well-supported by devs AND has decent battery life.

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That's a big concern for me. I just picked up the DInc2 yesterday....at retail price. Why? Both my wife and I are deaf and we live in what you would call a rather remote area, but at least have VZW tower nearby. A 4G/LTE phone is overkill when one lives nearly 2 hours to the first traffic light. So, on paper, as a 3G phone with video chat capability at a lower price then the LTE stuff, the DInc2 really fits the bill by giving me video chat so my wife and I can sign to each other when in different locations. That's a big plus.
BUT... as I scout all the normal forums I've used for my Droid 1, Droid X and Nook, the DInc2 looks like a real sleeper in terms of dev interest. This is my first HTC phone and even though the Motorola Droid has that %*&$#@ 'locked' bootloader, there's still a lot of options as well as the leaked restore files. I don't really want to root a phone until the point where there's some solid dev work as well as the ability to restore after screwing something up.
So, since like I mentioned, we're nearly 2 hours to the first traffic light and the nearest VZW store is just beyond that, I may bring it back on Tuesday when we're in the area and wait for the next suitable phone that has video chat capabilities. I've always used VZW's one-year contract and now that this option has bit the dust, I don't want to sign a two-year extension at the end of the year unless its for a phone that well-supported by devs AND has decent battery life.
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It takes a while for the devs to ramp up on a phone. It was a couple of weeks or more before the original DI was cracked and then it took even more time to get ROMs up to speed. Every phone is different and it just takes time. The DI2 was just released YESTERDAY. Your expectations might be just a little high.
...just sayin'.

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It takes a while for the devs to ramp up on a phone. ...
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Yeah, I do understand that. At the same time, I've been seeing devs flock away from other phones as they get fascinated with latest 4G/LTE, tablet, dual-core, etc. So, in that respect, I'd guess the DInc2 would gotten more attention had it been released early Winter.

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It takes a while for the devs to ramp up on a phone. It was a couple of weeks or more before the original DI was cracked and then it took even more time to get ROMs up to speed. Every phone is different and it just takes time. The DI2 was just released YESTERDAY. Your expectations might be just a little high.
...just sayin'.
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Inc S (Same phone) was released months ago...just sayin

[Q] Anybody else holding out on upgrading to the 3D

Because sprint might use LTE and WiMAX? If this happens by the end of the, the next Evo that supports both will far surpass the current product.
I already have high hopes for the next Evo.

LTE will start rolling out in Q4 of 2012. There were several reports about that date being solid because the Wimax contract with Clear will end Dec31 2012 and Sprint will be ready to make the switch. This is all based on contract dates and spectrum requests made through FCC by Sprint.
I just picked up the Evo on a new 2 year, but I am going to use the 30 day money back thing to switch up to the Motorola Photon 4G and ride that till the end of my contract. I'll still be in this forum though as my GF and son have the Evo 4G and I will be swapping them out to a better rom once the shipping 2.3.3 is rooted

reddragon72 said:
LTE will start rolling out in Q4 of 2012. There were several reports about that date being solid because the Wimax contract with Clear will end Dec31 2012 and Sprint will be ready to make the switch. This is all based on contract dates and spectrum requests made through FCC by Sprint.
I just picked up the Evo on a new 2 year, but I am going to use the 30 day money back thing to switch up to the Motorola Photon 4G and ride that till the end of my contract. I'll still be in this forum though as my GF and son have the Evo 4G and I will be swapping them out to a better rom once the shipping 2.3.3 is rooted
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That's not to far off, I actually just recently got my contract in April, if the date is set in stone, it aligns perfectly with my next upgrade that could utilize LTE.
Any specific reason for the switch to Photon 4G?

Nope...I'm holding out because I am not impressed at all with the evo 3d. Waiting for the galaxy s II
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AdriVelazquez said:
That's not to far off, I actually just recently got my contract in April, if the date is set in stone, it aligns perfectly with my next upgrade that could utilize LTE.
Any specific reason for the switch to Photon 4G?
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Remember dates are crazy and that is why they change so much.
And the photon has everything I want. but mainly the wiimote attachment and HDMI mirroring. All the HD games are also really nice.
With my old Vibrant the wiimote would not connect and kinda bummed me with all the games I could play VIA my TV. So the Photon fits what I have been wanting for a long time. Also the dock and productivity apps sound pretty nice as well.

Not gonna hold off for a standard that may or may not come in some undetermined amount of time.
I'm just not upgrading because:
A) I never buy technology when its first been released. I did that one time, Palm Pre. Never again.
B) Full NAND write has not been achieved. I love my AOSP.
C) Samsung's next generation looks promising and the Photon wouldn't be bad if they unlock them bootloaders.

mattykinsx said:
A) I never buy technology when its first been released. I did that one time, Palm Pre. Never again.
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lol
same here. OS is good, but the hardware is just horrible.
I personally am holding out until it gets rooted with some good support behind it. 4G sucks in my area so it doesnt matter regardless.
Heres to hoping good things come to the EVO4G with the kernel release from HTC. I'm personally holding out to see if that support picks up on the 4G before leaving for the 3D. MikG is holding me out and enjoying the ride.

AdriVelazquez said:
Because sprint might use LTE and WiMAX? If this happens by the end of the, the next Evo that supports both will far surpass the current product.
I already have high hopes for the next Evo.
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I was excited about it when i heard about the phone but once i played with it, i realized that it's not that big of a difference from the OG EVO . Everything it can do my OG can do it better with the right ROM and Tweaks outside the 3D of course so i'm sticking with me EVO until something wayyyyyy better comes along .

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lol
same here. OS is good, but the hardware is just horrible.l
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That hardware would have to step up to be a piece of crap, that's how bad it is.

To those saying the hardware isn't a great improvement would be wrong..its a great improvement ..even after stretching my og EVO to its limits it cannot compare to the 3d out of the box..you may say " what can the 3d do that the og cant" um I'm.not really sure but it just does said things better and smoother and faster..its very noticible with games etc... Those who are holding out due to root...well I understand that..when it is rooted it will be an incredible beast..as far as the photon ..I would rather take my og back..I.dislike MOTOblur ..

I am running my og evo4g with synergy Rom and it is awesome. They incorporated sense 3 into it and I love it. From what I can tell it has made my software basically the same as the 3d. I can't wait to see what the synergy team does with the EVO3d hardware. I'm not due for upgrade til 2012 oct anyway so I'm happy with my synergized EVO til then
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The 4G is a great phone ..I loved the experience I had with it and miss flashing a new ROM every fee weeks..the devs are fantastic and have kept that thing going strong ...I will always think of my og EVO fondly

Yeah I have both phones and my OG EVO is just fine with synergy. I don't really like the EVO 3d design. Screen seems smaller due to stretching height and taking away width. I also don't like the back cover at all. Seems badly designed. The software seems to be running st a low frame rate also. Doesn't seem like a big upgrade to me. I know Im going to be labeled a troll and tons of retarded pics will be coming but oh well. The 3d seems like a gimmick and its fun for all of an hour. High scores mean nothing to me so please save the quadrant argument. Coming from a older feature phone or even a hero would be an upgrade but from the EVO to 3d, it doesn't make much sense in my opinion. Before I get chewed, this is my opinion. Maybe it will change in the next couple weeks but right now its where I stand. Oh and I didn't have to start a new thread to say this. That's not a shot at the OP either. I just see all the hate on the 3s aide of this site and thought I would add a disclaimer to my statements.
I'll save my upgrade for something different. Sense is getting a little boring.

On day to.day tasks you won't see much of a difference..I mean how much faster can it get..the one thing I will say though is that I feel my 4G is stretched to its limits and that the hardware is getting old..the soc is more than twice as powerful and the.same.can be said of the gpu..I think that eventually the differences between the phones will become apparent . That being said the 3d does have some bugs to work out..one in particular that drives me crazy is when I'm typing...if.u.scroll or touch the screen in anyway it brings up like the edit cut and paste icon..it always happens ..also I can't seem the hit the space key without pressing the period button..those are minor gripes that I'm sure will be worked out

I'm sure the EVO3D will be a total beast once full root is accomplished, I don't doubt that at all, but as is, my fully rooted, custom rom, kernel, and tweaked EVO4G is as fast if not faster in some respects to the stock EVO3D.
Obviously the EVO3D is superior when it comes to gaming and watching flash content, but aside from that, my launcher transitions faster and much smoother than the EVO3D, my browser appears just as fast in general use, apps load just as fast, etc.
The EVO3D is a great phone, don't get me wrong, but until full root is accomplished it is being held back from realizing its true potential.
I read that temp-root has been accomplished though and some have even been able to overclock the processor to 1.8 GHz, which is pretty insane. I'm sure the phone is buttery smooth at those speeds.

firmbiz94 said:
The 4G is a great phone ..I loved the experience I had with it and miss flashing a new ROM every fee weeks..the devs are fantastic and have kept that thing going strong ...I will always think of my og EVO fondly
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Yup Same here... Before I left the 4G, I was on the MiKG 2.2 and that beast was flying which made me really wait a few before getting the EVO3D, but I know hardware wise this 3D will really be a beast once everything is all said and done.

ninoriff said:
Yup Same here... Before I left the 4G, I was on the MiKG 2.2 and that beast was flying which made me really wait a few before getting the EVO3D, but I know hardware wise this 3D will really be a beast once everything is all said and done.
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so, what is it like going from an 8.0 camera to a 5.0? jw

I'm using kingsrom longed London rls2 odex and it is the fastes ROM I have ever used.
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This ROM is sick. Feels like I have a 3d.
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This ROM is sick. Feels like I have a 3d.
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Use a 3D, and you'll see the difference, it's night and day.
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