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I have a Hero currently and would love a faster phone. The EVO is ok but too big for me. I would prefer the Incredible.
I know i can buy one for about $600 price does not matter. However I can not leave sprint. is there anyway known way to get the Incredible to work on sprint with full internet/MMS?
Just to be clear I DONT WANT THE EVO. I want the Incredible. ;-D
Please stay on topic. Im not looking for phone advice.
Thanks in advance!
No. Sprint won't add any ESNs that aren't native to their network.
hazard666 said:
No. Sprint won't add any ESNs that aren't native to their network.
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getting them to register the esn is not an issue.
I would venture to say that if getting sprint to register the esn, your next task would be to flash a sprint prl.
Other than that I would imagine the phone will function with the currently available roms.
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I would also need mms settings and internet settings and perhaps apn settings. I know nothing about how to do this yet.
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Of course it is possible and not really that difficult although it does take a few hours to figure it out.
You will have to google for info and it will be scattered throughout the forums.
Good luck!
So if I copy all the NAM1 Settings with something like QPST from my hero And find a way to get them to use the new ESN/MEID Ill be golden..
I guess its time to talk to the Sprint rep.
Why can't you leave sprint? Might be cheaper to just pay the etf ($250 I think, or less depending on how far you are into it), and get the incredible at $200 on contract with VZ instead of the $600 for the incredible to put on sprint.
Welp
If you can stomach Sprint, then grab an EVO 4G and be done with it.
How I miss the days when you could use other cdma phones in vzw (not that i knew how to do it personally, but what are friends for?). Lucky you if youhave someone who will clear the esn for you. If i had connect like that at Verizon I'd totally have an EVO right now
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I would Like to Do this also
I want to run an Incredible on sprint also... I am thinking about wiping the Incredible's ESN and replacing it with my Hero's ESN. If I accomplish this then do I also have to flash the PRI on the Incredible ?
Thanks,
Jay
I have an Incredible running flawlessly in Mexico, with Iusacell. It took me probably 5 minutes to get it running, following a Hero guide. You just have to dial ##PROGRAM and input all the changes there, the Incredible has no settings locked down.
I don't know if replacing the MEID(ESN) of the Inc is currently possible, you should check with the CDMA Workshop guys...
Has this been accomplished?
Has this been accomplished yet? I am interested in this as well. Perhaps we can get some steps? I know I don't want to get the EVO for two reasons: 1) the Incredible has an awesome form factor 2) I don't want to pay the extra $10 for 4G when I can't use it/don't need it.
This can be done, like "lamerto" I also have an incredible fully working on the Iusacell network(Mexico) and maybe the most difficult thing to do on this case is activate the meid on sprint(on Iusacell this things are easy) and maybe get the prl (in my case I can even download OTA way)
so the all the rest is a piece of cake, you have a hero, so you only have to read it with qpst, save or just copy all the parameters and then write it to the incredible (even the drivers are the same) and the only thing that is different is the meid (guessing that you're going to use the line that you have on the hero, on the dinc)
that's all this way you can have an incredible working on sprint(maybe you have to copy the mms parameters later, but that can be done even from the phone)
greetings
PD: sorry for my bad english
awesome thread. couple of guys on #htc-evo on freenode
have recommended the hong kong batteries.
I mean really, sprint batteries originate from that part of the world
anyway
luckily i have a spare 1500 battery (official) anyway. need a charger
solution though.
HTC Knight sounds like the Option...
hey just wondering if i could prehaphs unlock or reflash a droid 2 for sprint? i have an evo 4g getting board.... and kinda want a droid with a board thanks for your help
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hey just wondering if i could prehaphs unlock or reflash a droid 2 for sprint? i have an evo 4g getting board.... and kinda want a droid with a board thanks for your help
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Not sure you can do that since Verizon and Sprint have different types of networks. Maybe a Droid 2 Global?
Verizon and Sprint actually do have the same type of network (they both use CDMA), but it would be next to impossible to get a phone from one network activated on the other. Unfortunately, it isn't like the SIM cards, where you can just unlock the phone and put in another carrier's SIM. From what I hear, Verizon won't activate an ESN (device identifier) that isn't from a device they have sold.
Not sure about Sprint, but I haven't heard of anyone successfully doing it in a LONG time.
actually, they dont operate on different network types. sprint and verizon both definitely run on CDMA, and their phones can technically function on either network. the problem is that the IMEI's for each network are only valid on their respective network. If your IMEI is not on the particular network then it will not activate on that network.
the general rule of thumb with sprint and verizon phones: if it doesnt have the corresponding carrier branding on the phone in some fashion, then it will not activate on that particular network.
Also, carrier reps for both of these carriers will not add in your IMEI no matter how much money you say you will throw at them.
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Verizon and Sprint actually do have the same type of network (they both use CDMA), but it would be next to impossible to get a phone from one network activated on the other. Unfortunately, it isn't like the SIM cards, where you can just unlock the phone and put in another carrier's SIM. From what I hear, Verizon won't activate an ESN (device identifier) that isn't from a device they have sold.
Not sure about Sprint, but I haven't heard of anyone successfully doing it in a LONG time.
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My apologies for being misinformed.
I use to have a BB storm and once you "unlocked" it you could use it on other networks. I seem to recall a lively discussion on crackberry.com regarding which networks with which it would work. Now perhaps that's because the storm had CDMA/GSM capabilities, but I'm not sure.
I had a Storm as well. When you unlocked it, you could get it to work on AT&T and T-Mobile, because it was a global phone with a SIM card. You couldn't get 3G on any of the US Carriers, since the 3G frequencies are different in the US and in the rest of the world (so the data would be confined to slow 2G rates).
I did see a rumor recently that T-Mobile eventually did something to lock US Storms out of their networks.
http://crackberry.com/t-mobile-killing-service-unlocked-storm-devices
If you get the Droid 2 Global, you should be able to unlock it and run it on AT&T or T-Mobile with a SIM card. You most likely won't be able to get 3G, though. Probably not worth it.
Hopefully, when Verizon switches to LTE some time in the next year, the phones will be compatible across carriers. From what I understand, Verizon, T-Mobile, and AT&T are all switching to LTE. It sounds like Sprint is investigating, and my guess is that they will go that direction (ditching WiMax in the long-term). However, I wouldn't put it past the carriers to lock other US devices out of their networks.
Regardless, this won't help much with getting a device to run on Sprint. I'm sure that there will be some more cool Android Devices coming out for Sprint in the future.
A colleague of mine recently activated a DROID X on Sprint, but it was a hassle all around.
Programming the phone through QPST was annoying but doable, it was getting the phone's ESN added to the Sprint database that was a real hassle.
Eventually, my colleague had to work with somebody in Overland Park, KS. (Sprint's HQ) to get it done. After 11 phone calls to Sprint Customer Service (which were totally clueless), he finally sent a FedEx to Steve Elfman's office (President Network Operations) before anybody at Sprint was willing to even consider the addition. A few days after the Fedex was received, somebody from Mr. Elfman's office called my colleague back and worked with him to accomplish the addition.
After all is said and done, my colleague is happy that his DROID X is now on Sprint, but he has said a few times now that it really was not worth the effort that he had to put into it to get it accomplished.
Dan
dan1431 said:
A colleague of mine recently activated a DROID X on Sprint, but it was a hassle all around.
Programming the phone through QPST was annoying but doable, it was getting the phone's ESN added to the Sprint database that was a real hassle.
Eventually, my colleague had to work with somebody in Overland Park, KS. (Sprint's HQ) to get it done. After 11 phone calls to Sprint Customer Service (which were totally clueless), he finally sent a FedEx to Steve Elfman's office (President Network Operations) before anybody at Sprint was willing to even consider the addition. A few days after the Fedex was received, somebody from Mr. Elfman's office called my colleague back and worked with him to accomplish the addition.
After all is said and done, my colleague is happy that his DROID X is now on Sprint, but he has said a few times now that it really was not worth the effort that he had to put into it to get it accomplished.
Dan
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Hmm, interesting that it can be done though!
I just purchased a Atrix yesterday at the NO Committment price. After playing with it last night I received an email from ATT, telling me that I need to switch to a 4G plan. I was planning to move my iphone sim back and forth between the phones. I do not want to lose my unlimited data. Is this not possible? I have a micro sim to sim adapter so the sim card is not a problem. The data seemed to work find between the phones. If they can't do this I will have to return the Atrix as I want to keep my unlimited data.
before i sold me iphone 4 i used to do this as well. I bought a micro sim adapter from amazon and switched between the atrix and ip4. Not once did i receive an email or txt...hmm... ill keep an eye out now...
yes, you can keep your unlimited plan. many on XDA still have theirs! just go through the process they outline, make sure they keep you on unlimited, and you can still sim swap just fine. (I don't think this will muck up a sim swap from iPhone to Atrix and back)
are you happy with the Atrix?
I work at an ATT retail store just tell them you're doing a smartphone to smartphone exchange and you want to keep your unlimited data. No problems
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yes I am. It is a great device! I am awaiting shipment of a Samsung Galaxy S II just to see what all the hype is about. I plan on keeping my Atrix as well, so we will see how it goes. But my ordering the Galaxy S II has no bearing on what kind of phone the Atrix is. I think the Atrix is still phenomenal. If you are coming from an iPhone, there are definitely differences between each OS and you will be doing more learning of Android in general than just the Atrix. Enjoy!
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I just purchased a Atrix yesterday at the NO Committment price. After playing with it last night I received an email from ATT, telling me that I need to switch to a 4G plan. I was planning to move my iphone sim back and forth between the phones. I do not want to lose my unlimited data. Is this not possible? I have a micro sim to sim adapter so the sim card is not a problem. The data seemed to work find between the phones. If they can't do this I will have to return the Atrix as I want to keep my unlimited data.
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If you already have the iphone unlimited data plan, you can just call them and tell them you want to keep your unlimited plan and switching from iphone to atrix. You are entitled to "grandfather" your current unlimited plan to atrix.
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I was planning to move my iphone sim back and forth between the phones.
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The OP said he/she wants to move the SIM back and forth between phones!
You cannot do this. The iPhone and Atrix are different plans. You can keep your unlimited if you choose to use one or the other, but there is a smartphone plan, iPhone plan, and Blackberry plan. You can't jump between them at will because you have 2 phones! You will have to choose one phone and stick with it. You could do this with for example 2 Android phones, 2 iPhones, or 2 Blackberry phones, but not mixing them up.
I have found that if you have the iPhone data plan you CAN sim swap, but if you have the smartphone data plan on your account data will not work on the iPhone if you swap.
Maybe I shouldn't contact them and just leave use the iphone plan on the atrix. Everything seemed to work fine. Isn't it true that there is no such thing as a 4g sim card?
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I have found that if you have the iPhone data plan you CAN sim swap, but if you have the smartphone data plan on your account data will not work on the iPhone if you swap.
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That is just not true. You can swap at will with the unlimited "4g" plan.
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What about your voicemail..i was going to do the same thing with the sim adapter but I phone uses visual voicemail and atrix uses regular voicemail system
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I was able to keep the plan but I did have to get a new SIM card. They said it was for the 4G support. So I'm not sure if it's compatible or not.
Voicemail will be messed up.
There is a SIM card with 4G on it but it's no different from 3G card with fireball on it. If you have card earlier than that you need new one.
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I don't know if iOS supports google voicemail, but I love it on my Atrix.
Swifted from my Atrix.
When I did my upgrade from the iPhone 3Gs to the Atrix, I was told that I could keep the unlimited data plan as I was "Grandfathered" in.
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I was able to keep the plan but I did have to get a new SIM card. They said it was for the 4G support. So I'm not sure if it's compatible or not.
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You did not need a new sim
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Exthero said:
When I did my upgrade from the iPhone 3Gs to the Atrix, I was told that I could keep the unlimited data plan as I was "Grandfathered" in.
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When I changed from my Iphone 3G to my Focus, I was Grandfathered per AT&T. The rep told me "As long as you keep buying smartphones, you will be grandfathered in" IDK if I use my upgrade in June if this will still apply thouigh.
They will do something in two weeks
In my case, ATT did not do anything until 2 weeks later. ATT has different data plan names for iPhone and non-iPone smartphone. I believe iPhone plan is named dataPro and 4G plan is dataPlus. If you do not call them up, they might switch you to the 2GB/month 4G plan in two week.s
Mine was instant. I went from captive to atrix and it just would not work at all
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I bought my VZW Xoom day one without a data plan, and never got one, so I was expecting not to get a 4G SIM card when I got the 4G radio upgrade.
Am I just lucky or did everyone without a data plan get a 4G SIM with the 4G radio upgrade?
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No data plan and I got one, I'm pretty sure they are at least some will turn it on, I'd be lying if I said I wasn't tempted.
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Thanks for the reply. I was wondering if VZW had MOTO put the SIM card in as a temptation.
My tbolt 4G SIM worked fine in my Xoom, so at least I know the new radio works.
Some people with Xoom data plans had a harder time getting their new SIM card to work, than I did using my tbolt SIM.
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Thanks for the reply. I was wondering if VZW had MOTO put the SIM card in as a temptation.
My tbolt 4G SIM worked fine in my Xoom, so at least I know the new radio works.
Some people with Xoom data plans had a harder time getting their new SIM card to work, than I did using my tbolt SIM.
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I seriously have to pose this question... So your TBOLT SIM card works in your 4G XOOM, correct?
So does that mean, that there may be a possible loop-hole around these lame XOOM data caps?
I don't own a 4G phone, but say someone happened to add a line to their plan with a extra TBOLT 4G (before the new limited data plans), then technically you could experience "unlimited" 4G data on your Motorola XOOM just by switching the SIM?
Someone is bound to catch onto this eventually... and then so will Verizon... but if it works now, then why not?
EDIT: Lmao, someone beat me to it (this was the first thread I read), then I saw this thread after my post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1288922
My bad.
All Xooms getting the 4G upgrade without the data plan will get a sim card so if you decide (wink wink, at least according to motorola and version) get the data they just need your SIM# do the activation.
My roommate's xoom doesn't have the data plan and he plans on using the wifi only for now so he didn't care about the radio breaking and wanted everything back how it was so there he goes for that.
Now, as for people having an hard time getting there sim card to work (those with data plans already), I didn't had any problems, I booted it up, after about 5 minutes of poking around and about to go into the bootloader to unlock it I get a message saying there's a sim card in there and asked if I wanted to activate it, and when I did I got my 4g data working with no problem.
Also, I don't see why you can't use your 4G phone's sim card in the xoom, they all act the same way in terms of activation and use. The whole point of the sim card is for you to easily change your phones without having to really go through yet another activation process and what not.
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I seriously have to pose this question... So your TBOLT SIM card works in your 4G XOOM, correct?
So does that mean, that there may be a possible loop-hole around these lame XOOM data caps?
I don't own a 4G phone, but say someone happened to add a line to their plan with a extra TBOLT 4G (before the new limited data plans), then technically you could experience "unlimited" 4G data on your Motorola XOOM just by switching the SIM?
Someone is bound to catch onto this eventually... and then so will Verizon... but if it works now, then why not?
EDIT: Lmao, someone beat me to it (this was the first thread I read), then I saw this thread after my post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1288922
My bad.
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You wouldn't be able to add a new line with a tbolt and have unlimited data because a new line would be subject to the tiered data. If you were to upgrade to a 4g phone on a line that had unlimited data already this works.
I have a tbolt on an unlimited plan and am using my sim in my xoom to stream netflix as I speak.
Gueeze, does Verizon even have a development team at all, or are they so cheap that they just let their consumers find all the exploits for them?
Maybe they laid them all off.
At any rate, once they are wise to this particular type of bandwidth "theft", is it a simple fix on their end, or do they have to further tighten policy, making their data plans even less attractive than they are now?
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Gueeze, does Verizon even have a development team at all, or are they so cheap that they just let their consumers find all the exploits for them?
Maybe they laid them all off.
At any rate, once they are wise to this particular type of bandwidth "theft", is it a simple fix on their end, or do they have to further tighten policy, making their data plans even less attractive than they are now?
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Actually according to Verizon this is acceptable use of our 4g sim cards.
http://support.verizonwireless.com/clc/faqs/VZAccess/4g_sim_card.html?grp=1&faq=8
" Can I use my Verizon Wireless 4G SIM in more than one device?
Yes; the Verizon Wireless 4G SIM card contains all of your subscriber information, so the SIM card is portable and can be used in any Verizon Wireless-certified 4G device. All usage will be billed to the account associated with the 4G SIM card."
Great find.
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Just as straight talk flashers are on Verizon prepaid coverage. For those who can't follow guide a easier solution!
NO 4GLTE PHONES AS OF YET CAN BE ADDED!
IPHONES HIT OR MISS
ANY 3G VERIZON ANDROID PHONE WITH CLEAN ESN!
http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...oubles-to-2-Gigabytes?highlight=page+plus+2gb
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i use the Motorola bionic 4g lte with pageplus and have the new plan as of today with 2gb, and you can use can use 4g phones it takes a little work, but only get 3g and thats ok
biggdady111 said:
i use the Motorola bionic 4g lte with pageplus and have the new plan as of today with 2gb, and you can use can use 4g phones it takes a little work, but only get 3g and thats ok
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so what did you have to do,,,, I dont yet have an lte/sim card for the unactivated Droid Charge I have, I think that this the hold up for following through with an activation,,, but I have been too happy with my pageplus ics fascinate
biggdady111 said:
i use the Motorola bionic 4g lte with pageplus and have the new plan as of today with 2gb, and you can use can use 4g phones it takes a little work, but only get 3g and thats ok
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was it a 4g with clean esn?
My Fassy is on pageplus standard plan and working well...
I have been pushing people towards prepaid for like 2 years now. Page Plus is great.
We currently have an Incredible, an Incredible 2, and a Fascinate on Page Plus all running ICS ROMs. Also, we have a Proclaim on StraightTalk. Hoping for Root on the Proclaim soon
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I have been pushing people towards prepaid for like 2 years now. Page Plus is great.
We currently have an Incredible, an Incredible 2, and a Fascinate on Page Plus all running ICS ROMs. Also, we have a Proclaim on StraightTalk. Hoping for Root on the Proclaim soon
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I ended up here because I was looking at the $80 Verizon Prepaid Wireless smartphone plan but they only let you use that one Illusion phone.
Looking at the specs on those phones you have... So basically all three get 3g and voice off Verizon right? Of course under StraightTalk or Page Plus service brand.
Do you happen to know if I could bring in a Verizon capable newer higher end phone such as a GS3 and put them on your two carriers? I don't care if I lose 4g.
Any help is appreciated.
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