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N1 Major complaint

Power button to wake up then slide to unlock, this is horrible, not intuitive and actually very difficult for me to do in my good hand (left, m righty) and near impossible to do in right hand. Man i miss MT3G duoble click menu, anyone know if I can set A double trackball click? (putting it to sleep sucks too, hope the "proximity sensor" works)
Second complaint (existed with MT3g before cyan) home screen no landscape
Third (lol) I miss the app drawer
Fourth (man I know) can we get a full screen (home screen) widget that is phone dialer a la iphone so I can quick swipe to it since there is no phone button.
I look the phone and performance but honestly at this point I will probably get drawed until so of these can get fixed, I am going to stick it out and see if I can get used to it, but its been 9 hours now and not fond the "ergo"
Let me know if you have ideas, solutions or are willing to make an app hehehhe

Hahaha, I think I like every function you mentioned. To each his own I suppose...

My only problem (if it can really be called a problem) is with the push the top power button to wake the phone. It feels awkward to me. I wonder if the unlock function can be remapped to the trackball?

Yeah to each his own, the Iphone button to wake (which would be similar to trackball) can easily be done with the index/thumb hold the power button requires a cradling and sadly its difficult to contort my hand that way.
The app drawer, i dont know, i was much faster to scroll in before and the new 3d thing has a bounce back (ie it locks to 4x4 icons never halfway at top) throws off the quick flick and click for me at least.
I would love the left most home screen to just be the dialer screen flicking with thumb across screen is easier then finding icon and clicking for me at least
MMMV lol but i think others may like these things too

david, me too, actually that's my only "major" issue the rest were nits i had to pick.

lol also, the new app thing is jolting to the user experience, the rest of the home is swipe, swipe down for notifications, swipe sideways for home screens then click for apps. its weird, maybe i was only one that dragged the old draw up and down instead of clicking the tab....

The real problem with the top button is its lack of feedback. It doesn't "click". Still works though

1. I gotta admit... I don't like where the power button is. I usually hold the phone with my left hand while I use my right to swipe or press. The power button is right where I would normally hold on to the top of the phone. Its taking a conscience effort to change the way I hold it, so eventually it won't be a big deal.
2. I also agree about the homescreen. I use handcent, and if I am on the home screen when I recieve a popup, I can't turn the phone to landscape to use the bigger keyboard to post a quick reply. That is frustrating to me.
3. The button works fine for me. I kinda like it.
4. I don't care either way for a widget that lets you dial. I mean, hitting the phone button seems to work pretty well for me ( I haven't used an Iphone to know what you mean by this).
Overall, the speed is more then enough to make up for any shortcomings. The power button issue is one that has actually really bothered me. The oversaturation of colors, especially on apps like The Weather Channel has slightly bothered me. Other then that, I really like the dialer on the phone. As much as I liked wysie's contacts, the new dialer is freakin great. But I can't really complain. Its been a nice phone to have so far. Really nice. I just wish the Polar live wallpaper actually worked.

You will always be able to nitpick, but right now I'm sort of reveling in the fact that I now own the best phone the world. I didn't like the iPhone this much when I got it around launch.

maybe a 1x2 icon for dialer like the same icon from the dial pad the big green phone as a widget? lol

zendick said:
Power button to wake up then slide to unlock, this is horrible, not intuitive and actually very difficult for me to do in my good hand (left, m righty) and near impossible to do in right hand. Man i miss MT3G duoble click menu, anyone know if I can set A double trackball click? (putting it to sleep sucks too, hope the "proximity sensor" works)
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A lock screen is a requirement for me, so the only difference here is that I find the position of the "wake up" button on top a little awkward for 1-handed use.
zendick said:
Second complaint (existed with MT3g before cyan) home screen no landscape
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Couldn't agree more - never did get why the home app disobeys this setting when most others do it. I'm sure Cyan will rescue us!
zendick said:
Third (lol) I miss the app drawer
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Yeah, this is a BIG beef for me. I find the new app menu klunky as all get out. The label text on several rows of my menu are overlapping/corrupt, and I find it realyl tricky to scroll to the end of the menu quickly due to the way it "snaps" onto rows. Again, I hope Cyan'd firmware will revert this to sanity.
zendick said:
Fourth (man I know) can we get a full screen (home screen) widget that is phone dialer a la iphone so I can quick swipe to it since there is no phone button.
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I don't use widgets, but I for one don't miss the phone buttons. Why should the phone app get preferential treatment with it's own hardkeys. *
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* Yes, yes, I know the smarta$$ answer is "because it's a phone".

well i did a little messing around with remapping keys and wasn't able to cut my phone off, but i did make my power button into a trackball pressed button lmao.
right now, from the way it is looking, there is not an incredibly easy to make the trackball pressed (DPAD_CENTER) wake the phone up without sacrificing a fair amount of usability I will try and play with it some more later.
The files I was changing were both in /system/usr/keylayout/
mahimahi-keypad.kl and
qwerty.kl
I had to make changes to each of the 2 for it to stick. Maybe someone can take this info and run with it. I also had to reboot after pushing the files for it to take place.

The only thing that really bothers me is that one has to remove the battery to remove the SD card.
That is unlike all the other Android phones I know of. (T-mobile anyway.)

dont flame me but the top button to wake up and the slide to unlock puts me back to feeling like an iphone, and i had one for so long this feels comfortable to me

alextripp said:
dont flame me but the top button to wake up and the slide to unlock puts me back to feeling like an iphone, and i had one for so long this feels comfortable to me
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Never had an iphone, but I rather like the setup. Assures me that I'm not wasting battery life with it on in my pocket. If the touchscreen woke up on press, sure it might not unlock but it'll still be lighting up all the time.

On earlier hardware, other than the END button (which I suppose became the sleep/wake button), you could press menu (which would take you to the lock-combination screen, or the home screen if you didn't have a lock-combo) and the back button would also serve to wake the phone, you still had to use the END button to sleep.
Has any of you tested if menu or back will wake the phone?

they are touch sensitive on the nexus, so they are definitely a no-go

zendick said:
Power button to wake up then slide to unlock, this is horrible, not intuitive and actually very difficult for me to do in my good hand (left, m righty) and near impossible to do in right hand. Man i miss MT3G duoble click menu, anyone know if I can set A double trackball click? (putting it to sleep sucks too, hope the "proximity sensor" works)
Second complaint (existed with MT3g before cyan) home screen no landscape
Third (lol) I miss the app drawer
Fourth (man I know) can we get a full screen (home screen) widget that is phone dialer a la iphone so I can quick swipe to it since there is no phone button.
I look the phone and performance but honestly at this point I will probably get drawed until so of these can get fixed, I am going to stick it out and see if I can get used to it, but its been 9 hours now and not fond the "ergo"
Let me know if you have ideas, solutions or are willing to make an app hehehhe
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If you don't like the phone then why did you buy it?

jubeh said:
On earlier hardware, other than the END button (which I suppose became the sleep/wake button), you could press menu (which would take you to the lock-combination screen, or the home screen if you didn't have a lock-combo) and the back button would also serve to wake the phone, you still had to use the END button to sleep.
Has any of you tested if menu or back will wake the phone?
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eabinsan said:
they are touch sensitive on the nexus, so they are definitely a no-go
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I can confirm this does not work as well.

zendick said:
Power button to wake up then slide to unlock, this is horrible, not intuitive and actually very difficult for me to do in my good hand (left, m righty) and near impossible to do in right hand. Man i miss MT3G duoble click menu, anyone know if I can set A double trackball click? (putting it to sleep sucks too, hope the "proximity sensor" works)
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I sort of agree that the power button placement is awkward but I like the slide to unlock screen to help avoid pocket dials. It would be nice if there was an option to turn it off for those who are bothered by it.
zendick said:
Second complaint (existed with MT3g before cyan) home screen no landscape
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shrug
zendick said:
Third (lol) I miss the app drawer
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I really prefer the new app drawer. Different tastes I guess.
zendick said:
Fourth (man I know) can we get a full screen (home screen) widget that is phone dialer a la iphone so I can quick swipe to it since there is no phone button.
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That is actually a good idea.

Using track ball to wake phone screen?

Would it be hard to program the trackball to wake to the lock screen rather than having to hit the top button. I find it very annoying and it would be so much better for one handed use.
(this thing is slippery!)

It bugs me a bit too. When I had an iPhone I almost always use the home button to bring the unlock screen up. Also my nexus one is a bit slippery too I want a case.

I would be more interested in using volume keys to play/pause/forward/rewind the music payer without waking up the phone. This was one of the applications in iPhone.

kolyan said:
I would be more interested in using volume keys to play/pause/forward/rewind the music payer without waking up the phone. This was one of the applications in iPhone.
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If you're playing music, the volume keys are still able to adjust the media volume while music is playing and the phone is locked (and the screen doesn't turn on while doing it either). I prefer that behavior actually.

That's the one thing that always bugged me about the Droid, and what do you know... the N1 has the same problem, lol. Anyway, there has been a lot of discussion about this (including here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=613678&highlight=trackball). There's a thread in development as well about maybe mapping that function to the trackball... who knows.

CLOCK APP
I just realized if you open the clock application, and let the phone go to sleep, then you can "Turn it on" with the trackball or volume rocker.
Now if there was a way to have the phone set to "Sleep = Clock" we'd be golden; the clock screen doen't look that bad, either.

Lots of great thoughts here. Bump.

I hated this as well!
I found a solution! (sort of).
"Lock bot Free" from the android market is what i use now.
It enables you to pick differnt lock screens ( i like the hero one since u just scroll downwards to unlock) and it allows for u to press the trackball to wake up.
I have found that it is kind of buggy still. If i reboot the phone, I end up with two lockscreens. The regular nexus 1 one and then my hero one. So i had to reinstall it for it to work properly.
Disclaimer: I am not affiliated with that app. I just found it on my search to make my N1 less annoying.

noodles12 said:
I hated this as well!
I found a solution! (sort of).
"Lock bot Free" from the android market is what i use now.
It enables you to pick differnt lock screens ( i like the hero one since u just scroll downwards to unlock) and it allows for u to press the trackball to wake up.
I have found that it is kind of buggy still. If i reboot the phone, I end up with two lockscreens. The regular nexus 1 one and then my hero one. So i had to reinstall it for it to work properly.
Disclaimer: I am not affiliated with that app. I just found it on my search to make my N1 less annoying.
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I was about to come post this same thing, although I'm experiencing a weird glitch too, but I actually like it. For some reason I don't get a lock screen at all after my phone locks. I hit the trackball/volume keys/power button and it just goes straight to whatever screen I was at when it locked. Pretty sweet actually.

noodles12 said:
I hated this as well!
I found a solution! (sort of).
"Lock bot Free" from the android market is what i use now.
It enables you to pick differnt lock screens ( i like the hero one since u just scroll downwards to unlock) and it allows for u to press the trackball to wake up.
I have found that it is kind of buggy still. If i reboot the phone, I end up with two lockscreens. The regular nexus 1 one and then my hero one. So i had to reinstall it for it to work properly.
Disclaimer: I am not affiliated with that app. I just found it on my search to make my N1 less annoying.
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This is Very good, if it was working
it randomly locks or not the screen which is Unaxeptable in my pocket

I tried the alpha3 of myLock. It... sort of worked, except that every time I unlocked/woke the screen, the app itself would toggle itself off. No idea why; it's not like I even have a task killer anymore.

Lock 2.0 from the market works well.

jp_macaroni said:
Lock 2.0 from the market works well.
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does that allow you to have a regular or hero lockscreen?
ALl i saw on the screenshots were Iphone lockscreen ripoffs.
And if i wanted an iphone i would've gotten one. Why you'd want to make your N1 look like an iphone I can never figure out.

Trying Lock 2.0 free, so far it works pretty good. I can't change my lockscreen pic and I don't like how it goes to the lockscreen when touch home...

zole2112 said:
Trying Lock 2.0 free, so far it works pretty good. I can't change my lockscreen pic and I don't like how it goes to the lockscreen when touch home...
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What I don't like about Lock 2.0:
1) If you wake up your phone by accident (and don't unlock the phone) it doesn't go back to sleep after a few seconds of inactivity,
2) it doesn't show your notification bar so you don't know whether you got a new email or text message or other notification.

scrappyabs2 said:
What I don't like about Lock 2.0:
2) it doesn't show your notification bar so you don't know whether you got a new email or text message or other notification.
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Have you even looked in the settings? Please examine the app more closely.

Using Lockbot free now. Does what I wanted perfectly (press any hard button to wake up), plus lets me use the Eclair lockscreen which I've always found more aesthetically pleasing.

Installed Lockbot Free, and it does exactly what I want with the trackball, but I can not work out why sometimes it gives me the Eclair screen which I like, and sometimes it chooses a different screen?
Kev

You have to uncheck the stars (I can't remember specifically) next to the unlock screens you do not want to show up. I never liked LockBot, it isn't a precise copy of the real lock screen(s), if I'm going to use a imitation I rather it look complete..

Open up the app, press "My theme." It'll give you a "playlist" of different lock screens. I simply un-star all the ones I don't want and stick with Eclair after changing the background. The clock's font is a bit off, but I will cope.

'Dot' bug AFTER update

Has anyone else notice the 'dot bug' on the home screen?
if your on the main homescreen (screen 3), it should have 2 dots in each bottom corner indicating 2 screens to the right and 2 to the left.
if i go into an app from screen 5 and then exit the app by pressing the home button, it takes me to screen 3 however i have 4 dots on the bottom left - which is obv wrong!
I only noticed it after the new update (which i did manually)...i havent rooted.

Easy to reproduce, sounds like a simple bug and the developer of the activity needs a holiday

The same bug is affecting me - nice catch!

Same issue here, not so perfect phone now You'd think they'd test updates before rolling them out, saying that it is a minor thing but would be nice of them to sort it out as soon as possible and the Carrier | (pipe) issue too.

yeah i would think that they would catch something like that but i guess not. Some people are saying they are not experiencing the bug, mostly people that have received the update via OTA; then again others say they have. I still haven't updated figured i would wait for the OTA but i'm getting impatient..

Same here. Updated via OTA

I think everyone with the update has it. Doesn't bother me any; my screens are all different enough from each other that I can tell at a glance which one I'm on, so I never look at the dots.

adam18488 said:
Has anyone else notice the 'dot bug' on the home screen?
if your on the main homescreen (screen 3), it should have 2 dots in each bottom corner indicating 2 screens to the right and 2 to the left.
if i go into an app from screen 5 and then exit the app by pressing the home button, it takes me to screen 3 however i have 4 dots on the bottom left - which is obv wrong!
I only noticed it after the new update (which i did manually)...i havent rooted.
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Did the manual update and do not have that issue.

scuzzy19 said:
Did the manual update and do not have that issue.
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Done the manual update as well and I have the bug as well. Not that it's annoying or anything

johnsto said:
Easy to reproduce, sounds like a simple bug and the developer of the activity needs a holiday
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Exactly, people need to relax.

fixxed by flashing this launcher.... i know it was to fix the fc's before the update but it works for this too (as i hoped)
EDIT: almost forgot the link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=622150&highlight=launcher+dot

RonnieFoxxx said:
fixxed by flashing this launcher.... i know it was to fix the fc's before the update but it works for this too (as i hoped)
EDIT: almost forgot the link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=622150&highlight=launcher+dot
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Assume this requires root?

Did anyone just try pressing on one of the dots to switch screens, then going back? Mine had this when I first updated, but I did that, and haven't had it since (even after power down).

mikeybags said:
Did anyone just try pressing on one of the dots to switch screens, then going back? Mine had this when I first updated, but I did that, and haven't had it since (even after power down).
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Have tried it and still have different dot count once in a while after using the launcher But not a problem for me right now.

mikeybags said:
Did anyone just try pressing on one of the dots to switch screens, then going back? Mine had this when I first updated, but I did that, and haven't had it since (even after power down).
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that doesn't solve it mikeybags, you'll see if you try it with an app on another screen, open the app from the other screen then hit home, you'll see the dots dont go back to ".." ".."

You don't even have to move screens or press the dots to fix this...
Just hold the background and move half-way as if you're changing screens and let go.
Fixed.
Why is this such a big deal?

mobiousdigital said:
Assume this requires root?
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yes sorry i was half asleep when i posted this and only afterwards realized this. well for all you rooted users that updated and are having this problem, there is your fix.

Yellow Honeycomb transition?

To begin, I'm new to Honeycomb and he Asus Transformer. (Not new to android however.)
Every once in a while the "tron-like" screen transition will turn yellow on one of my screens. Most often it happens to the one just to the right of the center screen. It comes and goes at random and a reboot always turns it back to blue. To better explain I attached a photo below.
So what's happening here? Does it indicate something I'm not aware of? If it's something widely known and normal I'd feel foolish. I also tried a search on this forum and google but found nothing about it.

when you add an app or widget to the screen the screen you put that app or widget on turns that colour to show that it is selected but there is a bug in the code that does not change it back sometimes. to fix it just force quit the browser or reboot
Also im noting that you are using a third party screenshot app if you go into settings and hit screen then check the screenshot button it will allow you to take screenshots by holding the multitasking key also if you have the dock the button where F8 should be (the rectangle and camera) that will also take a screenshot

Thanks for the info. It's odd though, it just does it randomly, never when I add an app or widget.
Also thanks for the tip about the screenshot being native. I thought I saw that option somewhere.

cesjr02 said:
Thanks for the info. It's odd though, it just does it randomly, never when I add an app or widget.
Also thanks for the tip about the screenshot being native. I thought I saw that option somewhere.
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I've noticed this too. good eye! rotate portrait and back, and it stops... weird.

oreo and Instagram issue

So far Oreo is a noticeable improvement in battery and lag. But... Something has changed when using Instagram. The home touch buttons are now too closely overlayed over the Instagram buttons. They're literally on top of each other down there at the very bottom of the phone, With each button ust slightly to the left of each other. The result is that you're constantly hitting the wrong button, no room at all for error.
As a remedy I installed the XDA gestures app but that has a new slide bar that sits right in the center of the screen when using Whatsapp so that you cant see what you're typing. I have to tilt the phone in landscape to get the bar out of the text input box. Any suggestions?

I experience the same issue in both vanilla instagram and GBinsta.

Another issue is that Google Assistant is also right in top of the LG home touch buttons so that it blocks me using the screen capture/screenshot button. I have to do the fingerprint button+volume button thing. Otherwise the related searches pull up results take up half the screen so I cant screen capture. Google must really want us to buy Pixel phone...

What models are yall using? I'm on H918 Oreo using the small display size and my instagram works just fine.

I don't use Instagram all that much but I just went to check out this issue.
The thing that I noticed right off the bat was that if you have the "Home Touch Buttons" set to hide then when you use Instagram they will almost completely overlap when dragged up.
Solution: Use the little square dot in the bottom left corner (tap to change the state) to keep the Home Touch Buttons from hiding. They will nicely reside under the Instagram app and not be overlapped. When done with Instagram just tap the square to go back to the hidden state.
Hopefully this will be of use to you.
Aintree Porsche said:
So far Oreo is a noticeable improvement in battery and lag. But... Something has changed when using Instagram. The home touch buttons are now too closely overlayed over the Instagram buttons. They're literally on top of each other down there at the very bottom of the phone, With each button ust slightly to the left of each other. The result is that you're constantly hitting the wrong button, no room at all for error.
As a remedy I installed the XDA gestures app but that has a new slide bar that sits right in the center of the screen when using Whatsapp so that you cant see what you're typing. I have to tilt the phone in landscape to get the bar out of the text input box. Any suggestions?
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Tim3tripp3r said:
I don't use Instagram all that much but I just went to check out this issue.
The thing that I noticed right off the bat was that if you have the "Home Touch Buttons" set to hide then when you use Instagram they will almost completely overlap when dragged up.
Solution: Use the little square dot in the bottom left corner (tap to change the state) to keep the Home Touch Buttons from hiding. They will nicely reside under the Instagram app and not be overlapped. When done with Instagram just tap the square to go back to the hidden state.
Hopefully this will be of use to you.
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LOL. I'm over here installing apps to get over this problem that you fixed just long pressing the square! Doh!!

Messaibi said:
I experience the same issue in both vanilla instagram and GBinsta.
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In case you missed it see the response above totally fixed the issue with a simple swipe.

Aintree Porsche said:
In case you missed it see the response above totally fixed the issue with a simple swipe.
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OMG this made me feel so dumb... Thanks for the quote, I would've missed it otherwise, issue fixed.