Release Notes on WM Builds? - Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General

Ok i was wondering where can i find them? Like I always see roms being updated to WM 6.5.x Build 2xxxx, but i never see the rls on these things like whats been fixed or added
Just curious

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ROM Situation?

Hi,
I was active in the BA forum about a year ago, and have some free time now so would like to get my BA working again
When I was here last helmi had just released his first 6.0 rom. Could anyone advise me about how the ROMs have improved since then, i.e. improvements between 6.0 - 6.1 - 6.5, and recommend which version to install?
I'm mainly looking for stability and a clean and well organised interface. I tried a ROM just now out of curiosity and found it was completely messed up with coverflow picture viewers, oversized task managers etc. which did not look good.
Thanks for any help, or just general ROM discussion
hardingt0110
maybe i will recook latest 6.1
if you really look for stability do not try WM 6.5, about the speed the 6.5 roms are quite fast
i personally use 6.5 because i can handle the crashes here and there, but it is possible you never encounter a crach on 6.5
WM6.5 is still in beta stage thats why you may encounter bugs ...
try for yourself, i recomend if you use your device on daily basis and not just for toy use 6.1 until 6.5 becomes RTM
wm6.1 build 21032 or 21038 are waiting for ya
Cheers for the help
So which ROM would you guys reccomend for my requirements of fewest bugs / cleanest interface? I guess imatrix you were talking about xtreme's ROMS there, or sun_dreams?
@xplode: once wm6.5 is stable, will it have any improvements over 6.1? Would I be better with a 6.0 over 6.1 for that matter? That would be great if you could make a new version of 6.1
Thanks
xplode said:
try for yourself, i recomend if you use your device on daily basis and not just for toy use 6.1 until 6.5 becomes RTM
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I for once don't agree with you! LOL Well I use R3 Your Creation... on a daily basis and beat the cheet out of it, and have had very few crashes... So... C'mon mate, trust your work Its going great. Getting ready to flash R5.1 . I just need to sync phone first. I had to re-format my pc and haven't installed Outlook yet, so, till I can find my Office CD and can Sync my contact I won't be flashing. Oh... I hate moving... Still have 1/2 my stuff in boxes and can't remember what is where.
@ hardingt0110: I can suggest Swampy's WM6.1 : BA_M2D_CE_OS_5220275__Build_20275.1.3.3_V3 I used it for quite a while, still have it on one of my other BA's and to me, it was pretty featured and stable. Use it with his ExtROM.
If you read a little on the top 10 threads, you will find most answers to your questions about 6.0 vrs .1 and .5
Happy Flashing!
@ Explode: Like I said, I haven't flashed 6.5 R5.1 yet, but just from what you've wrote, I can already say... Thank You! You've really put your time into this last ROM. My Respects to you and all the other great cookers.
@ Swampy: You've been a little quiet my friend. Waiting to see what's New @ Swamps Cooking
@ markanthonypr: Edit your signature lazy boy, you don't have a "working Tornado" anymore LOL
@ Rafyvitto: Thanks for suggesting BA its all your fault LOL
I will always try latest ROM, though I know it could be buggy, but I feel we are the persons to give true feedback to developers to resolve build related issues and finally make them solid. Developers are working for us and we should help them by pointing out bugs in decent ways ( not discouraging ways) I have installed xplode's 6.5.1
April 1 said:
I will always try latest ROM, though I know it could be buggy, but I feel we are the persons to give true feedback to developers to resolve build related issues and finally make them solid. Developers are working for us and we should help them by pointing out bugs in decent ways ( not discouraging ways) I have installed xplode's 6.5.1
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I'm totally agreed with that!
I tried Swampy's M2D CE_OS_5.2.20931, its fast but the folders are not really organized. I'm currently using xplode's Build 19209; slower but stable and looks pretty official.
Cheers to ROM developers!
xplode said:
maybe i will recook latest 6.1
if you really look for stability do not try WM 6.5, about the speed the 6.5 roms are quite fast
i personally use 6.5 because i can handle the crashes here and there, but it is possible you never encounter a crach on 6.5
WM6.5 is still in beta stage thats why you may encounter bugs ...
try for yourself, i recomend if you use your device on daily basis and not just for toy use 6.1 until 6.5 becomes RTM
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@xplode,
You know mark is right, right? You should have more trust in your work buddy!! Your roms are normally great with a few bugs here and there.
@ hardingt0110
If I were you, I would jump directly to WM6.5. markanthonypr is right on the money... I use 6.5 for daily use and I beat it like a rented mule without any issues. I have had to do a series or SR in the past week, but it is not because of the rom itself but rather because of the latest release of PointUI2, which for some reason is buggy as hell. I uninstalled it and everything is back to normal. Try it, you may like it...
@ mark
Moving is always a pain in the a$$. Don't feel bad though, I moved about 2 years ago and I still have half of my stuff packed in boxes.
Thanks for all the help guys, you've saved me hours of ROM trying and the associated risks in flashing
I think I will try xplode's R5.1, as the screenshots of the interface look pretty neat. How does the honeycomb interface work? It always looks slightly too big for the screen?
Has anyone got any reccomendations for interface enhancements for wm6.5? S2P http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=417511 looks a lot nicer than WMP along with all the other apps by A_C.
Thanks
EDIT: What are the fixed themes next to the ROM download? do I need these if I download the fixed rom?
hardingt0110 said:
Thanks for all the help guys, you've saved me hours of ROM trying and the associated risks in flashing
I think I will try xplode's R5.1, as the screenshots of the interface look pretty neat. How does the honeycomb interface work? It always looks slightly too big for the screen?
Has anyone got any reccomendations for interface enhancements for wm6.5? S2P http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=417511 looks a lot nicer than WMP along with all the other apps by A_C.
Thanks
EDIT: What are the fixed themes next to the ROM download? do I need these if I download the fixed rom?
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The apps enhancements are really up to personal taste... Here's what I normally have
Main UI: Varies but currently using PointUI 2 Free v 2.018b (later releases are too buggy)
Music Player: S2P
Lock Program: either S2U2 or ThrottleLock
Browser: NetFront Browser Concept 3.5 and Iris Browser (both are light, pretty fast, and Iris can use true Flv video (youtube and such))
Contact Manager: Pocket CM
Keyboard: PCM keyboard
Mail Management: I use the stock Pocket Outlook. However, Flexmail isn't bad either (not free though)
Video Player: Either CorePlayer or TCPMP
Picture Viewer: S2P
Games: A bunch!!
GPS Program: IGo 6 (will change it to Google Navigate eventually, but this one works rather well).
Calendar: Thumbcal (not free)
Thanks i will look into those
By the way I figured out that the honeycomb scrolls
I still don't know what those fixed themes are :S can I still use my own background in wm6.5?
yes of course you can use customized backgrounds. if you pick a qvga jpg picture, open it with "pictures and videos" you can set it as today background and select transparency, that also makes it the start menu background and those abstract pictures, general dark background with colorful lightplay looks wonderful. i already tried a lot of custom backgrounds and can't even decide with which to go permanently. i wouldn't recommend .tsk today themes though, they didn't just change the title bar and menu bar, which i expected, they took away all the finger friendlyness and put back the ugly old menus and scrollbars.

AudioManager Fix (Releasing New 6.5 ROM Build//Bug Fix)

Hey guys, I recently posted a Beta Version of a new CDMA Diamond ROM, for a few people to test out before I release it this week here on xda. It's based on the new 21051 6.5 Build, and is super fast & stable.
I'll be releasing 3 versions, stripped, manila, and 6.5 homescreen. All of which are pretty good. However, On the manila version, which is by far my favorite, and usually the most popular, there is a small problem that everyone keeps asking about that I have let test it.
The audio tab in manila not working properly. I have tried to find a fix online for this issue, but no luck, and I don't have the time to dig into it personally before the actual release.
It is having the exact same issue that was/is seen on many other rom's. When you go to the Audio Tab in manila, it shows an error message which states "audiomanager_eng.exe is not a valid win32 applicaiton".
I had this same problem when using a few other roms, and even on every build in the ppcgeeks kitchen. So i'm sure that the fix for those, if there is one, will solve the issue here as well.
So any help here guys, and I would appreceiate it more than you know.
When I have had this problem, it was solved by installing this cab from Dia Duit's repository - http://diaduit.bounceme.net/OemDiamAudioMgr.cab

Windows Mobile 6.5 for Titan

Hi all,
Just after some advice.
I am useing dcd 3.4.3 and am enjoying it.
However, I kinda want to try something new. What is the best wm 6.5 rom out and why?
Hey there. Best 6.5 ROM? That's a matter of opinion. As far as stability is concerned, builds 21501 and 23017 lead the way. 23025 was the most recent build that I tried and it was hard to use. Windows moved the start menu icon and the "X" to the bottom. The GUI was either not user friendly or the version that I used was not made for our native resolution. I was unable to scroll far enough down in the notifications interface to be able to disable vibrate.
Tbonebtone has a nice light 6.5rom posted here in the Titan forum. R.Mogul makes a couple also, but I have never tried them and he uses a very early build.
I have been looking forward to trying the newer builds. I'm sure you have seen the more complete looking graphics and reskinned keyboards that are available in builds 23036 and 37. I am actually trying to familiarize myself with Ervius Visual Kitchen and Porting Tools just so I can try some of these newest builds. Seems support for the Titan device has really died in the past few months.
Hi there,
Thanks for the tip. i will give those to builds a go and report back. If you have anymore info on the latest ones that would be great.
LiamRutherford said:
Hi there,
Thanks for the tip. i will give those to builds a go and report back. If you have anymore info on the latest ones that would be great.
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I should have more info on newer builds this weekend. The family is out of town and I have little better to do tomorrow.
In my search on how to accurately update my kitchen for unsupported builds, I came across this thread. It seems that this gentleman is updating us with new roms and providing us with the newest .nbh files. Of course, these are his ROMs, so he added his splash screens that say "WM7"... not sure why??, some games, etc. The buttons on the dialer are transparent with white font, so a darker bg is a must. Also he included the "honeycomb" start menu. Some people like it, but its not for me. Overall, despite the aforementioned, this rom seems stable and boots at a lovely 25.4 mb.
More here: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=67673

how can i have sense (weather) on my tp2 using only winmo 6.1

Hi,
my os is still winmo 6.1 and i don't really want to upgrade to 6.5 yet (because the next g rom isnt out yet and i dont want a different version). but i do like the htc sense UI with the weather in the middle of the time animated and the colourful task icons.
i want something like this:
http ://www . redmondpie.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/HD21.jpg
is it necessary to upgrade to 6.5 to have this? or can i have it and still have 6.1?
thanks
Jackos hybrid rom includes WM6.1 and Sense 2.1... He is also working on Sense 2.5 for WM6.1, I believe. Check it out, I tried and it's really stable. Only a couple minor bugs. But there's a ton of free RAM and it's really quick! Link below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=618063
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Jackos hybrid rom includes WM6.1 and Sense 2.1... He is also working on Sense 2.5 for WM6.1, I believe. Check it out, I tried and it's really stable. Only a couple minor bugs. But there's a ton of free RAM and it's really quick! Link below:
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okay COOL! thanks
but will you tell me what kind of bugs are there? thanks again
AND another thing - will i be able to still keep my old touchflo3d interface (like i can choose either this jacko rom or the one i have now on the today settings), or will this completely change my interface? thanks
Jacko ROM rocks.. I have been using it intensively for a whole week...
and frankly... together with the Tarkim's Keyboard Configuration Apps... they save my TP2 from being dumped into the drawer... You must try it out if you want Sense on 6.1 (I don't want 6.5 too.. as I hate that stupid honeycomb interface which takes away my keyboard quick selection ...)
is there any way to get the sense with the weather without flashing a new rom?? if not is there any way to flash roms on a mac and or unlock my tp2 on a mac? what about backing up/syncing my tp2?

ROMS with new WinMo: possible to change bottom start bar to old simpler/smaller one?

I see many ROMS around based on this version of windows that has a huge bar on the bottom with the windows logo and a couple of buttons. I reckon this is a more recent version of windows than the one shipped with the HD2.
My question is the following: is it possible to have these newer versions of windows but to somehow change the bottom bar back to what it looked like in the original windows shipped with the phone?
It's not necessarily more recent, just a different branch of development. Build 21892(old user-interface) is about the same age as 23534(new user-interface). That said, it would seem that the new UI is the future, though. There are also some features that are only present in the 23xxx branch for now, like threaded e-mail.
If you want newer version of Windows Mobile but don't like the new look, avoid ROMs based on builds 23xxx, 24xxx and (if I'm not mistaken) 28xxx.
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I see many ROMS around based on this version of windows that has a huge bar on the bottom with the windows logo and a couple of buttons. I reckon this is a more recent version of windows than the one shipped with the HD2.
My question is the following: is it possible to have these newer versions of windows but to somehow change the bottom bar back to what it looked like in the original windows shipped with the phone?
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Yep, with the help of a theme you can change the bottom-bar style. One theme that changes the bottom-bar to the old look is "Livven SimpleGloss Black"-plain toolbar and softkeys: look for it here.
(Notice however that the theme doesn't change the height of the toolbar. I don't believe any theme can do this).
EDIT: I've attached the right cab, so you don't have to delve your way through all the variantions of the above mentioned theme.
that is very helpful! do you also know if it is possible to get rid of the windows icon? i have a windows hard key in my phone i don't think i need the soft key
wingm4n said:
that is very helpful! do you also know if it is possible to get rid of the windows icon? i have a windows hard key in my phone i don't think i need the soft key
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Maybe someone has made such a theme, don't know. But I think that one can only hide the windows button. I think it isn't possible to reposition the right menu soft key.
BTW, why don't you stick to a WM 6.5 build rom if you hate the toolbar so much. For me the only advantage of WM 6.5.x is precisely the new toolbar. The other advantage of the new builds is threaded emails (but i don't use that)
I have heard that it's faster but i don't know how reliable that information was
wingm4n said:
I have heard that it's faster but i don't know how reliable that information was
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O, it is faster. But for me faster on the HD2 is like seeing a real fast sportwagon passing by but then a little bit faster, or sitting in a real fast train that is going a bit harder. I hardly notice the speed-gain. But that's subjective.

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