interesting quote from the telegraph - HD2 General

In their review for the hd mini found here
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...eview-HTC-HD-Mini-is-smaller-and-smarter.html
the last paragraph comes out with this little nugget..
And, unlike the HD2, this phone will not be upgradeable to the flashy Windows Phone 7 Series later in the year so you're stuck with the current version. Even so, the HTC overlay is so successful, and the phone itself such a joy to use, that it deservedly wins a fifth star.
Either they know something we dont or are very behind the times..
Lordao

I'd say the latter, but we can still hope

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Either they know something we dont or are very behind the times..
Lordao
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the second guess is true
And do we even care that much?

ephestione said:
the second guess is true
And do we even care that much?
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Agreed. It's a one night stand of an OS to me. Unless it gets hacked to pieces so I have the functionality of WinMo it will always remain a toy to be occasionally flirted with, that will no doubt leave me feeling guilty and dirty the next day and running back into the arms of 6.5 apologising for my weakness.

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Agreed. It's a one night stand of an OS to me. Unless it gets hacked to pieces so I have the functionality of WinMo it will always remain a toy to be occasionally flirted with, that will no doubt leave me feeling guilty and dirty the next day and running back into the arms of 6.5 apologising for my weakness.
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I really don't believe I could word my feelings any better than that. Hats off to you, good sir.

Aterlatus said:
I really don't believe I could word my feelings any better than that. Hats off to you, good sir.
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Agreed, no point eating hamburgers at McDonalds if you have steak at home!

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Why I think the Nexus One will be the best Android phone until the next Nexus phone

My opinion;
Despite all the other HTC Android phones coming the Nexus One will remain on top. The reason why I think this is because having a phone directly from Google itself means you'll get updates before anybody, and popularity from any other 'Droid phone won't beat out a Android phone from Google itself.
So to everyone who has a Nexus One or those people who are scared too get one because another one might make it look obsolete..DON'T WORRY. The Nexus One will remain on top due to the fact that it's from Google itself.
Just my two cents..
I agree with you on that. I just made the leap from the TP2 after running Android on it for a couple of days. I love it. Its awesome.
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I agree with you on that. I just made the leap from the TP2 after running Android on it for a couple of days. I love it. Its awesome.
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LOL, I did the same thing. My TP2 is now collecting dust.
So what you're saying is that because this phone is being so heavily backed by Google it will have a very long lifespan?
I think I can agree with that
I came from the CLIQ and man is this phone a speeeeeed demon!
well so far there is very little (to none) support from google......and Nexus One is the worst cell phone experience i have ever had.
The phone is good, the hardware is good, the OS is ok.......It just feels like everything is in beta or made from cheapo parts.
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and Nexus One is the worst cell phone experience i have ever had.
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How so? Cell phone meaning the making-calls part of it, or the whole phone in general? Any specifics?
It just feels like everything is in beta or made from cheapo parts.
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Specifics?
I find very few people who don't like the N1 can actually list real reasons for not liking it.
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well so far there is very little (to none) support from google......and Nexus One is the worst cell phone experience i have ever had.
The phone is good, the hardware is good, the OS is ok.......It just feels like everything is in beta or made from cheapo parts.
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Well, you know, you should lay off from Google a little. This is there first directly sold phone, and they weren't exactly prepared for all the whining and problems people were going to have. I don't know how they didn't expect for nearly everyone to complain, but apparently they weren't exactly ready to join the phone competition. They haven't had to deal with any problems till now because they have been selling their Android powered phones through carriers..
I honestly don't understand how this phone could have so many aggravations for people though.. like the above poster said, you should also be more specific.
The good thing is that if the 3g connection is good, htc/moterola/exc can't put the blame on Google, Google has to accept the blame, thus forcing them to fix it snappy (hopefully like we've seen with the radio haha)!
coming from touch pro 2 the N1 is amazing
gotta be honest i miss the keyboard but its alright
just the fact that the phone has a 1ghz processor tells me that they are palnning to keep it for a while. ive had an iphone 3g too and so far i still like the n1 the best ...
just one problem so far - the youtube player is stupid and slow... =[
other than that 5 stars
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well so far there is very little (to none) support from google......and Nexus One is the worst cell phone experience i have ever had.
The phone is good, the hardware is good, the OS is ok.......It just feels like everything is in beta or made from cheapo parts.
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Patience..everything will be solved by the time it hits Verizon.
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Patience..everything will be solved by the time it hits Verizon.
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Hah! I just had this idea today!!!
What if Google isn't advertising the Nexus One etc because T-Mobile N1 = the BETA? And we all know how much Google likes their betas!!
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Hah! I just had this idea today!!!
What if Google isn't advertising the Nexus One etc because T-Mobile N1 = the BETA? And we all know how much Google likes their betas!!
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Lmaooo but I really think by the time this phone hits Verizon..every major issue will be solved.
Are people still getting dust under the screen...or has that been fixed.I'm debating if I should get the N1.I had the G1 and loved all the mods you could do to it and the N1 has twice the specs so it's a powerhouse and the only phone out there close to those specs is the HD2.Man I just can't decide, maybe I should wait till all the kinks are worked out.
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Are people still getting dust under the screen...or has that been fixed.I'm debating if I should get the N1.I had the G1 and loved all the mods you could do to it and the N1 has twice the specs so it's a powerhouse and the only phone out there close to those specs is the HD2.Man I just can't decide, maybe I should wait till all the kinks are worked out.
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You should get it when all the problems are fixed..that way you have nothing too worry about.
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How so? Cell phone meaning the making-calls part of it, or the whole phone in general? Any specifics?
Specifics?
I find very few people who don't like the N1 can actually list real reasons for not liking it.
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I love the phone. But the speaker phone suks arse! How do you miss that part in the testing of the phone. Maybe if I bend it a little and give it a HERO Chin that might fix it. Now if I can only get that "bending device" they used in the "Making Of The N1"......hmmmmmmmmm
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Are people still getting dust under the screen...or has that been fixed.I'm debating if I should get the N1.I had the G1 and loved all the mods you could do to it and the N1 has twice the specs so it's a powerhouse and the only phone out there close to those specs is the HD2.Man I just can't decide, maybe I should wait till all the kinks are worked out.
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Since you have 1 YEAR to replace it, just get it and if the dust is really bad, send it back in 360 days
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Since you have 1 YEAR to replace it, just get it and if the dust is really bad, send it back in 360 days
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I know but a lot of people got a replacement with the same problem.How many times can we send it in for replacement?
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I know but a lot of people got a replacement with the same problem.How many times can we send it in for replacement?
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I don't know if there is a limit. But if there is, then there's even LESS reason to send it in right away, like so many people are doing, and then getting phones with the dust issue once again. Get the phone, enjoy, send it back at 11 months.
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I don't know if there is a limit. But if there is, then there's even LESS reason to send it in right away, like so many people are doing, and then getting phones with the dust issue once again. Get the phone, enjoy, send it back at 11 months.
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yea that's a good idea too...anyone know if T-mobile stores sell these or is it just Google?

lmao at winmo fanboys

just had a guy at ppcgeeks tell me Android is to the mobile market what Linux is to the desktop market. talk about having your heads in the clouds. im soo glad i ditched winmo and moved to the hero. after seeing the disaster of wm7 today i made the right move.
Wow haha... that man has been misinformed obviously. MyTouch 3G? Droid? Nexus One? The only Android phone I could really say that would fit his description would be the Samsung moment (haven't heard of many people with one).
Sound like the grown adult man working as a parking lot attendant living on the days of his tenure as a high school football player who scored the winning touchdown.they will catch up soon or later
Cant and wont agree with the comment from the guy at PPG, however the 7 phone is far from a disaster and I fully believe that it will bring WinMo back from the dead...even more so than WebOS did for Palm. Its look features, and functionality beats the **** out of everything on the market except Android. Anyway, I'm with Android to stay (though maybe not Sence next time around).
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Cant and wont agree with the comment from the guy at PPG, however the 7 phone is far from a disaster and I fully believe that it will bring WinMo back from the dead...even more so than WebOS did for Palm. Its look features, and functionality beats the **** out of everything on the market except Android. Anyway, I'm with Android to stay (though maybe not Sence next time around).
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id take winmo 6.1 or 6.5 over that any day. the phone is basically crippled.
Stupid PPCGeeks. I wish i could take down all my themes and shlt from there!
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...I fully believe that it will bring WinMo back from the dead...even more so than WebOS did for Palm.
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We'll see...
Meanwhile, you can expect a bit of cockiness from the WM guys. I know, I used to be one!
I think the Winmo 7 phone will be decent. Yes it's a totally new UI for it and the apps aren't backwards-compatible, but hacks will eventually come out for it.
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Stupid PPCGeeks. I wish i could take down all my themes and shlt from there!
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well i am glorifying android in the wm7 thread too, so i expected a reply like that.
but some of those guys are off their rocker if they think android will be a fail.
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Sound like the grown adult man working as a parking lot attendant living on the days of his tenure as a high school football player who scored the winning touchdown.they will catch up soon or later
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LMAO
funny
mrinehart93 said:
I think the Winmo 7 phone will be decent. Yes it's a totally new UI for it and the apps aren't backwards-compatible, but hacks will eventually come out for it.
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it won't be soo easy for them man,. no multitaking, no flash, no copy/paste. yeah microsoft just threw everything out the window and took a HUGE step backwards. i love my hero and android, so easy to theme and a decent amount of custom roms and a great marketplace. what else can you ask for?
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...so easy to theme and a decent amount of custom roms and a great marketplace. what else can you ask for?
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Agreed.
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Agreed.
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i could ask for a free nexus one!
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i could ask for a free nexus one!
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I prefer the SuperSonic. WiMax is already live here in Vegas. I cant wait until Sprint releases a handset with it. I already have mobile broadband through Clearwire and get pretty good speed.
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I prefer the SuperSonic. WiMax is already live here in Vegas. I cant wait until Sprint releases a handset with it. I already have mobile broadband through Clearwire and get pretty good speed.
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yeah i remember you from ppc, you used to own a vogue to right?
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yeah i remember you from ppc, you used to own a vogue to right?
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Yep Yep. I got banned by that karate broad...
And now here i am.
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Yep Yep. I got banned by that karate broad...
And now here i am.
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banned? lol...figures, can't expect much more from ppcgeeks.
horton hears a who
Recovering the costs of new development, and gathering anticipated profits to MS (or any other large company) will have to be realized before any new stuff is released. So they will slow the industry momentum down in order to maximize the money that can make. Money is fine. Slowing everything down sucks.
Now they can slow things down by screwing up others, ie.. specifications for open systems designs and so forth.
Only when they see their customer base being reduced (-14% winmo) will they react.
Google on the other hand supplies a "cloud base" and should be impervious to change costs on platforms. That could mean the introduction of new platforms and system upgrades. Certainly a more open environment.
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it won't be soo easy for them man,. no multitaking, no flash, no copy/paste. yeah microsoft just threw everything out the window and took a HUGE step backwards. i love my hero and android, so easy to theme and a decent amount of custom roms and a great marketplace. what else can you ask for?
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They named the OS wrong...should have been named Windows ME Mobile.
don't hate I love my andriod more than my old winmo phone, but when html5 getting running everywhere. Now I say this with a tear in my eye(of happyness) there won't be a need for a closed app stores and alot more web based apps

It's Over.

Yea I hocked my N1 to the lucky bidder.
I don't really know what I didn't like about it. It felt truly like it wasn't the BEST smartphone experience I could have had. Everything just felt, weird? Slow? Uncoordinated? I don't know. Its a fine piece of machinery no doubt but I don't think I was ready for the inherent clusterfuck Android is.
And in all seriousness I probably will come back to this. But for now...
Its back to the Razr. Most reliable thing in existence.
Rofl, back to the Razr? Most reliable phone in existence? You've got to be F'n kidding me, right?
You can't be serious.. a RAZR? Welcome to 1999. Lol -That's like browsing the web with a potato.
It's ok, the Nexus one, two, three, four.. are all waiting for you.
There's no waving emoticon?
Well, enjoy I guess. No disrespect intended here, but if you're fine w/ a Razr... Then it obvious you really don't need, nor WANT, a smartphone. That's not meant to be an insult, but rather a simple observation. Smart phones are about everything OTHER than the phone portion in my mind. For me, that's the last thing my N1 does .
Good luck.
That's sad... I sure hope it enjoying your razr, gotta admit its a very reliable phone, I once threw it at someone and left him unconscious. Helped me get out of a potential danger. LOL
The nexus one isn't for everyone I guess, specially the technology challenged
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There's no waving emoticon?
Well, enjoy I guess. No disrespect intended here, but if you're fine w/ a Razr... Then it obvious you really don't need, nor WANT, a smartphone. That's not meant to be an insult, but rather a simple observation. Smart phones are about everything OTHER than the phone portion in my mind. For me, that's the last thing my N1 does .
Good luck.
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Sometimes i get confused as what i am supposed to do when a call comes
I must have forgotten the sarcasm tag.
Blackberry people. Most awesomely unreliable smartphone in the world.
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I don't really know what I didn't like about it. It felt truly like it wasn't the BEST smartphone experience I could have had. Everything just felt, weird? Slow? Uncoordinated? I don't know.
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I'm not sure what you mean by slow and uncoordinated. Please elaborate. I have never seen a phone as quick and responsive as the N1. If you're a hardcore blackberry fan they you probably wouldn't like the N1 anyway.
I'm not going to insult you because of your opinion though but I would expect it from some of the children on XDA.
"To each his own"
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Blackberry people. Most awesomely unreliable smartphone in the world.
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What?????
10chars
Android is a clusterfuck?! Have you ever used Windows Mobile?
I bought the razr when it first came out and it was 600.00 on a contract. I had it two days, dropped it, and it landed on the corner hinge. The area that cracked is so thin that the screen came unattached and all i had was a keypad and speakerphone to make calls on. I had to send it back to motorola because at&t wouldn't insure it, and they lost it. I got it back 3 months later locked, and they wouldn't send me a code so I had to pay for one.
Never buy motorola without a swap plan in place, they lunch too hard on getting things done.
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I bought the razr when it first came out and it was 600.00 on a contract. I had it two days, dropped it, and it landed on the corner hinge. The area that cracked is so thin that the screen came unattached and all i had was a keypad and speakerphone to make calls on. I had to send it back to motorola because at&t wouldn't insure it, and they lost it. I got it back 3 months later locked, and they wouldn't send me a code so I had to pay for one.
Never buy motorola without a swap plan in place, they lunch too hard on getting things done.
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Never buy a motorola phone regardless. They're terrible designers.
The nexus definitely feels a little unstable in many respects. But with its hardware and being presumably on the top of Google's mobile priorit list, this phone has more potential than any other phone out there. Its almost as smooth as the iPhone with the potential to put the iPhone to shame. Just gotta be patient and let google iron out the software. This baby's still a baby!
This ones for you Paul ; )
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The nexus definitely feels a little unstable in many respects. But with its hardware and being presumably on the top of Google's mobile priorit list, this phone has more potential than any other phone out there. Its almost as smooth as the iPhone with the potential to put the iPhone to shame. Just gotta be patient and let google iron out the software. This baby's still a baby!
This ones for you Paul ; )
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lol!!!!
This hurt my head. The end.
DMaverick50 said:
The nexus definitely feels a little unstable in many respects. But with its hardware and being presumably on the top of Google's mobile priorit list, this phone has more potential than any other phone out there. Its almost as smooth as the iPhone with the potential to put the iPhone to shame. Just gotta be patient and let google iron out the software. This baby's still a baby!
This ones for you Paul ; )
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Please explain how it's unstable. Are you rooted and running a custom ROM? I'm totally stock and my phone's been rock solid stable. A huge contrast with my rooted G1 with various custom ROMs.
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You can't be serious.. a RAZR? Welcome to 1999. Lol -That's like browsing the web with a potato.
It's ok, the Nexus one, two, three, four.. are all waiting for you.
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this was funny... roflmao
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Never buy a motorola phone regardless. They're terrible designers.
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yeah? i haven't heard about the Droid having any serious hardware issues yet, like you know, tons of dust under the screen.
crazy talk said:
yeah? i haven't heard about the Droid having any serious hardware issues yet, like you know, tons of dust under the screen.
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...or an inferior touchscreen for multitouch.
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yeah? i haven't heard about the Droid having any serious hardware issues yet, like you know, tons of dust under the screen.
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Their phones really are quite ugly, though, if we're talking about design rather than build quality (which the dust issue qualifies as).

If you were thinking anout getting N1.. DO IT!

I just switched from touch pro 2 and let me tell you... There is no comparison. I had TP2 for a year and almost everytime I had to do something fast, look something up or do somehing more complicated than calling - it would fail me. It led to a constant feeling of doubt and being unsure if it will just freeze when I need it the most.
N1 is freaking fast. Everything on it JUST WORKS. There is no guessing, like on TP2 - "omg I hope this launches.. I hope I don't have to soft reset.." - everything is integrated, every transition happens in a snap, every task you throw at it is handled immediatly and with style. It's a reliable life partner.
If you are undecided like I was a week ago about switching to N1, do it - you'll wish u've done it sooner.
Android FTW.
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It's a reliable life partner.
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Wow...
Didn't know the N1 could fulfill so many of your "needs"
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Wow...
Didn't know the N1 could fulfill so many of your "needs"
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Hahaha! Lol..
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Wow...
Didn't know the N1 could fulfill so many of your "needs"
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What? Sleep beside you?? Are they supposed to do more than that? I'm sure you can download some argumentative audio to play from time to time.
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What? Sleep beside you?? Are they supposed to do more than that? I'm sure you can download some argumentative audio to play from time to time.
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It looks almost black & blue already.
Its far better than the TP2 but it reboots by itself alot. I don't know why. I do understand you, coming form that phone also. But its not perfect yet.
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Its far better than the TP2 but it reboots by itself alot. I don't know why. I do understand you, coming form that phone also. But its not perfect yet.
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My n1 never random reboots.....Ever since JIT got throw out the window, no reboots....I had almost 12 days uptime once....
What is JIT?
Scratch that. I found what it means. How do you get rid of it? I've read its built in.
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What is JIT?
Scratch that. I found what it means. How do you get rid of it? I've read its built in.
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Just get (and donate to) cyanogenmod and never worry again
I have to say...
THANK YOU, OP!
Yes, I was pretty undecided up until now. I have a SE X1 and really, I know what you're talking about when you mention "doubt". I just hate the thing and WM makes it a nightmare. When I got my X1 I was thinking of keeping the phone for a long time, I wasn't expecting a $900 phone to turn out to be complete crap both hardware wise (flimsy, crappy keyboard, crappy paint, etc.) and software wise (WM!!!). Hopefully, I can use the N1 for a longer time with the updates and all...
I guess I'll be getting it now for sure, the only thing left to decide is whether or not it's worth it to wait the extra time to have it engraved...ha!
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THANK YOU, OP!
Yes, I was pretty undecided up until now. I have a SE X1 and really, I know what you're talking about when you mention "doubt". I just hate the thing and WM makes it a nightmare. When I got my X1 I was thinking of keeping the phone for a long time, I wasn't expecting a $900 phone to turn out to be complete crap both hardware wise (flimsy, crappy keyboard, crappy paint, etc.) and software wise (WM!!!). Hopefully, I can use the N1 for a longer time with the updates and all...
I guess I'll be getting it now for sure, the only thing left to decide is whether or not it's worth it to wait the extra time to have it engraved...ha!
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Actually I ordered mine engraved and it shipped the same day. Suppose to be delivered today .
You may also want to check this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=654493
I also came from a TP2 and I don't miss it or windows mobile at all. The laggy feel to if it was on for a day with no soft reset. Glad to see I wasn't the only one who made the switch.
And to fill that final need.......
go and download dildroid just google it. Now your phone can handle anything, no really, I mean anything!
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Wow...
Didn't know the N1 could fulfill so many of your "needs"
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Lol, I shoulda said "business partner" =))
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Its far better than the TP2 but it reboots by itself alot. I don't know why. I do understand you, coming form that phone also. But its not perfect yet.
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Huh? Mine doesn't even think about rebooting itself.
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THANK YOU, OP!
Yes, I was pretty undecided up until now. I have a SE X1 and really, I know what you're talking about when you mention "doubt". I just hate the thing and WM makes it a nightmare. When I got my X1 I was thinking of keeping the phone for a long time, I wasn't expecting a $900 phone to turn out to be complete crap both hardware wise (flimsy, crappy keyboard, crappy paint, etc.) and software wise (WM!!!). Hopefully, I can use the N1 for a longer time with the updates and all...
I guess I'll be getting it now for sure, the only thing left to decide is whether or not it's worth it to wait the extra time to have it engraved...ha!
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Glad it helped =)
Dude, be VERY careful about the engraving.
Read the warranty policy - if you engrave it, it becomes a non-refundable phone that can only be sent in for repairs, if needed. Also, think if you'll want to sell it in a year or two.. nobody wants your "My name is John and I have a 12" tool" engraving.
Not that it's a bad service, just make sure you consider that.
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go and download dildroid just google it. Now your phone can handle anything, no really, I mean anything!
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I have my wife for those "special moments"
But yeah, people, get your mind out of the gutter!
nobody wants your "My name is John and I have a 12" tool" engraving.
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Lauged so hard I cried hahaha awesome!
Nah I was thinking something like:
Andrei + Kat
2009.07.15
Or something that would make the "wife" happy. I have to be careful what I engrave otherwise I'll get the cold treatment XD.
Oh well
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Lauged so hard I cried hahaha awesome!
Nah I was thinking something like:
Andrei + Kat
2009.07.15
Or something that would make the "wife" happy. I have to be careful what I engrave otherwise I'll get the cold treatment XD.
Oh well
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Hehe. My name is Andrei as well actually =)
I'm thinking that if I do want some "engraving" on it, I could get away with a transparent acid-sticker of a sort.. at least that I can remove and sell/return if need arises.
Although only death can separate me form my N1 at this point.
If Adobe would hurry and release the fully gpu accelerated flash player for this phone, I'd give it a 10 out of 10.
Seriously! The ipad / iphone guys are crying so hard about wanting html 5 everywhere because they're not allowed to have flash.. I worry that Adobe's missed the boat on this one.
Not a single developer leaking the gpu flash 10 player for android either..

The cause of all your Galaxy s2 problems......

I have come to the conclusion that the reason some users are having problems with their phones is this.....
ITS YOUR OWN FAULT!
Leave the phone the way Samsung intended it and 90% of you wont have problems
Dont get me wrong i was one of these people.....Got the phone...was really happy with it and then i started to work my magic lol! New launcher here, different widget there and so on and so on.
Ended up with terrible battery life and then with a phone that got so hot it shut itself down!
Since that time i have reset the phone and kept it completly standard...what a difference...battery last 2 days again and the phone is fast and cool!
So, moral of the story...leave it alone and just enjoy the phone as it is....if you dont you only have yourself to blaim
so endith the lesson
You just made today's most stupid post...
I agree with you 99%
The other 1% of me wants you to join Apple's walled garden
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I speak the truth..you just dont want to admit it!
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Disagree. I think OP made sense - people sometimes mess up their phones. It is a toy for most of us, or a hobby, or an addiction
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I agree with you 99%
The other 1% of me wants you to join Apple's walled garden
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You only have to look at the number of problems post about
Its not the phone 90% of the time but the user!
Dont get me wrong im all for changing my phone to the way i want it etc but all it ever does is bugger the thing up!
If the phone is left as it comes out of the shop then the chance of problem is far reduced.
This phone has been refined so far that in standard form there very little wrong with it. Problems arise when we start messing with it to much.
hpsauce37 said:
I speak the truth..you just dont want to admit it!
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Another noob that thinks he knows the best...
kreoXDA said:
Disagree. I think OP made sense - people sometimes mess up their phones. It is a toy for most of us, or a hobby, or an addiction
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Some people just dont want to accept thats the case.
If you want to get a phone and tinker around with it adding here and taking away there then fine...just dont then come on here complaining about the phone and making it look bad...its a great phone....if you leave it alone lol!
Sometimes I wish I could reach into the Internet and strangle people. This is one such occasion.
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DocRambone said:
Another noob that thinks he knows the best...
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I was thinking the same!
Just my opinion though if you dont like it then fine but the point of forums like this is people have there say...
what makes you think you know best?
hpsauce37 said:
I was thinking the same!
Just my opinion though if you dont like it then fine but the point of forums like this is people have there say...
what makes you think you know best?
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I know that every phone has bugs... even the sgs 2...
dan13l said:
Sometimes I wish I could reach into the Internet and strangle people. This is one such occasion.
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Based upon what?
you disagree?
if so why...if its the phone thats at fault all the time then why bother with one?
You think the user is never the cause of problems with the phone? Is that because we are all technical geniuses?
do not fight guys.
most phones have bugs.
if you give the user too much freedom, the user will abuse it, tarnish the brand, and you will pick up the bill (Jobs' very successful business model)
and yeah, Doc is a power to be reckoned with
can we all be friends please
DocRambone said:
I know that every phone has bugs... even the sgs 2...
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I agree and i never said it was perfect
but this phone is so much better than many and all the niggles are getting sorted the more android and samsung develops.
The point i was making is that the majority of problems on here are not because of some minor bug...more likely down to user error or the result of other apps etc that have been added.
hpsauce37 said:
I agree and i never said it was perfect
but this phone is so much better than many and all the niggles are getting sorted the more android and samsung develops.
The point i was making is that the majority of problems on here are not because of some minor bug...more likely down to user error or the result of other apps etc that have been added.
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Can you show me this "majority of problems" caused by the users?
kreoXDA said:
do not fight guys.
most phones have bugs.
if you give the user too much freedom, the user will abuse it, tarnish the brand, and you will pick up the bill (Jobs' very successful business model)
and yeah, Doc is a power to be reckoned with
can we all be friends please
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Like i said its just my opinion...
Im sure Doc is very good at what he does and i have never questioned that...dont think we were debating that unless he thought i set down the gaunlet and was looking for a fight lol!
not the case
You're making a sweeping generalisation based on absolutely zero evidence. The worst kind of troll.
Are the Orange FC problems caused by user error? No - KE2 firmware is bugged. Is the appearance and activation of Wifi sharing user error? No, its a bug. Is the unexplained battery drain and high Android OS use user error? No.
This thread contributes absolutely nothing. It only serves to aggravate those of us with issues that we're trying to resolve. Is it a great phone? Yes. But right now it had issues. You become an early adopter, you accept that. And you try to make the product better.
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DocRambone said:
Can you show me this "majority of problems" caused by the users?
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dont want to be on here all night but lets look at the obvious...Battery life
Numerous complaints about that
im no expert and dont profess to be but from my own experience when i had lots of widgets, different launcher etc installed my phone struggled to last the day. Since my reset to standard as of now the phone is still on 78% and thats after being unplugged since 8am.
Hang on (door slams). I'll just go and buy an iPhone.
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