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Radio OR ROM ?

I have radio version 2.05.51.05_2 and I would like to use this rom -
ROM: ★ Energy Series 23557|Apr 12| , which radio version should I use ?
I found Leo_RADIO_15.33.50.07U_2.07.50.27 **(from TMOUS 2.07) which looks ok, but will this be ok for a 512mb HTC hd2? Or is it for the T mobile version only?
Also, do I update the radio first? with my current stock ROM? Or do I update the ROM first and then update Radio?
Thanks in Advance

Will this be your first flash?
If so, check this before do anything else: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=609477
If not, and if you already have HSPL installed on your device, you should first flash the RADIO ROM and then the ROM. (check previous link for that too)
I personally like the one's on my sig, but you must try several rom's and radios' and see wich one you like more.
Hope i could help.

i think next time you may not make a new thread. you can ask what you are confused on Energy ROM thread...

h20pt said:
Will this be your first flash?
If so, check this before do anything else: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=609477
If not, and if you already have HSPL installed on your device, you should first flash the RADIO ROM and then the ROM. (check previous link for that too)
I personally like the one's on my sig, but you must try several rom's and radios' and see wich one you like more.
Hope i could help.
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Thanks for that. This is my first flash, but I have already run hspl2 and my phone is set to 1.42 hspl.
I just want to make sure I have all the correct info before I flash.
So you can confirm that this radio will work with my device?

Hi
I use Energy rom now
I use radio 2.08.50.08_2
And everything is OK
But somebody said that radio 2.07 will give a better battery life, you could try this I use radio 2.08 because I like the newer radio
You should upgrade radio first, then Rom
My device is "normal" HD2

Im sure you have either a: allready flashed your phone successfully
or b: bricked it and are now crying under your bed sheets as you've managed to make the worlds most expesive door stop.
either way, do energy roms will not work with a .51 radio. it has to be a .50.
I use 2.08.50.08 and works a charm, its reported that 2.07 radio's are better for battery life.

wickedpenguin said:
Thanks for that. This is my first flash, but I have already run hspl2 and my phone is set to 1.42 hspl.
I just want to make sure I have all the correct info before I flash.
So you can confirm that this radio will work with my device?
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As djchubbs said, you should use only .50 RADIO's on Energy ROM, so the one you said it's ok
Happy flashing

Need some help!

Hi guys,
I would like to have some help with my HD2.
Device info ;
R 2.06.51.07
G 15.30.50.074
D 1.66.76641
PB81100 HX - BC
SPL-1.66.0000 XE
MicroP(led) 0x05
MicroP(Touch) 0x40
Well i've installed a new rom, butt now the phone freezes at the startup, sometimes it goes further than the HTC display at the beginning. Sometimes even till the HTC Quitly Brilliant startup vid. Butt from there one it freezes?
I've read some thing on the forum butt i don't know what to do?
What have i tried already;
Other SPL and other ROMS .. I can install other roms butt they won't startup.
Does someone know this problem?
Kind regards,
Karim

You need HSPL or SSPL if you want to install a Custom ROM and Radio.
Always read Sticky in ROM sections. For HSPL : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611433

That's true, butt now i've installed ;
RUU_Leo_HTC_NLD_1.43.404.1_Radio_Signed_15.26.50.07U_2.04.50_22_2_Ship
The stock ROM, butt it freezes at the WM loading screen, the first loading screen after a new installation.
Tried several, SPL's and ROMS butt it keeps freezing at that point.
Thanks!

You are using an incompatible version ROM and RADIO ROMs...
Edit: for this old stock ROM you must use older HSPL, not 1.66...

Oke, thats some good information.
So if i understand it right, i've got to install for example the HSPL 1.42 to install this old STOCK ROM.
Im gonna try it later on. I will let you know if it worked for me!!
Thanks in advance!

Yes, you must use the same version HSPL like is Base of ROM or lower version, not higher...

Petulinek said:
Yes, you must use the same version HSPL like is Base of ROM or lower version, not higher...
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Yes this is advisable but works otherwise also.
I have used 1.7x base cooked ROMs with HSPL 2.08 and also vice versa but always best to choose similar HSPL/Base combination.

check the radio is compatible with the rom you are trying to flash

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I have used 1.7x base cooked ROMs with HSPL 2.08 and also vice versa but always best to choose similar HSPL/Base combination.
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But in most ROMs 1.7x are drivers from 2.10, then is HSPL release 2.08 OK and ROM does work good

Oke guys i've done the following things
1 - Downloaded HSPL_2
2 - Installed HSPL 1.42 Cotulla HSPL
3 - Downloaded RUU_Leo_HTC_NLD_1.43.404.1_Radio_Signed_15.26.50.07U_2.04.50_22_2_Ship
4 - Installed this ROM
Device info
R 2.04.50.22_2
G 15.26.50.07U
D 1.43.70124
It starts up until the "HTC QUIETLY BRILLIANT" screen. It loads untill 100%
Butt then it freezes again.
What im doing wrong?

What about to try boot without SIM and SD card...

Tried it, there is no SD card and no SIM in the phone.

So I do not remember, maybe someone smarter will know to advise...

Thanks anyway for you're information!!
Hope someone else knows how to solve this.

This topic can be closed. Goes further in this topic.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=458865

I assume I have the 1024Leo? Purchased Last week from TMo...

Just making sure before I look at ROM's...
Speed 1024
RAM 576
Flash 1024
Storage 688.48
Radio 2.10.50.26
Model TMobile_LEO
So, I would use the ROM's for the 1024Leo, is that right, or am I way off?

VisualOddity said:
Just making sure before I look at ROM's...
Speed 1024
RAM 576
Flash 1024
Storage 688.48
Radio 2.10.50.26
Model TMobile_LEO
So, I would use the ROM's for the 1024Leo, is that right, or am I way off?
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You are correct any ROMs that say they are TMOUS compatible will work just fine for you ...
May I recommend Energy ROM Series ....

watcher64 said:
You are correct any ROMs that say they are TMOUS compatible will work just fine for you ...
May I recommend Energy ROM Series ....
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I'll look at those first then. THANK YOU!

VisualOddity said:
I'll look at those first then. THANK YOU!
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No problem
Read the flashing thread, there are some steps you need to take before flashing ...
Search for HSPL3 , you will need it first ....

I have one 1024LEO too, but...
I've installed last hspl, it was a T-Mobile but is now unlocked, but no ROM seems working, the mobile doesn't want to boot anymore!! Help please...

Update infos
Since one upgrade test, the hspl disappeared and now writing as
PB81120 SS-B3
SPL-2.02.0000 XE
MicroP(LED) 0X05
MicroP(Touch) 0X50

You flashed an incorrect ROM. If you can get into bootloader( which it looks like you can) then you need to flash the original carrier ROM in order to restore your SPL to stock. Reflash the original T-Mobile or whoever ROM in order to rewrite the stock and correct SPL to your phone. Then you can HardSPL again.

But how can I know which one was the original and where finding it? Because even a Task 29 doesn't work anymore... Thanks

you are stuck. spl 2.02 is a test/manufacturing spl, and nothing you do now will allow you to change it.
Do a search for threads with titles like 'stuck with spl 2.02' and the like. I 'think' you can now only flash teh 2.01 and 2.02 (and perhaps 2.03, if i remember correctly) and you can flash cooked roms using SSPL, but you cant change the radio with sspl. so the only radios you can use are those contained in eth three roms i mentioned.
Unlucky.

Yet tried
I tried all ROM, but even 2.01, 2.02, 2.03 give me RADIO_V2 failed...
What else can I do? How is it possible?
I tried to let the mobile without battery for hours before try to flash, I even tried the fridge for the mobile...

progress
After colding device, I was finally able to flash until 2.03, but 2.05 and up are not able to be flashed. The problem is when I insert my SIM, the phone always reboot...
Any Idea? Incompatable ROM with 1024LEO? How to upgrade ROM? Thanks

Yes, dude, like two people have already told you. You are stuck with the SPL's from hell. You flashed some other carrier ROM, and that has screwed your SPL. Search for the threads about being stuck in that SPL and see what you can dig up.

VisualOddity said:
Just making sure before I look at ROM's...
Speed 1024
RAM 576
Flash 1024
Storage 688.48
Radio 2.10.50.26
Model TMobile_LEO
So, I would use the ROM's for the 1024Leo, is that right, or am I way off?
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How I know if the HD2 it's 1024 ir 512 version?

rhoberto said:
How I know if the HD2 it's 1024 ir 512 version?
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1024MB Flash.
Macguyver1980 said:
, I even tried the fridge for the mobile...
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Did I read that right? You put your HD2......IN THE REFRIGERATOR? It's amazing the darn thing still works.

It's the only way for me to flash it again, when it's cold... When it runs more than 1 hour, the phone doesn't react anymore... That's why I have to send it back for repair but I don't have the original receipt and I live in Belgium, this is a US T-Mobile I've unlocked...

JTAG?
Do you believe the JTAG Flash is a solution? Is there already someone tried this? Thanks

JTAGing your device won't do you any better than what you can do now. And honestly, if you are the type of person to have done this to your phone in the first place, JTAG is something that seems to be out of your reach.

Thanks, I'm Electronic Engineer!! I will do it for sure and as fast as I can...

And how can you tell it won't change anything? Have you tried to affirm that?

wow reading this thread made my head hurt.......

[Q] HTC LEO software architecture

Hello,
I have a T8585 SH08LNW01064.
It's originally an orange one.
I use SFR, (i change my phone in a reparation shop after breaking the screen of my original one)
When had it i used HSPL3_PKG.exe and flash it with RUU_Leo_S_HTC_FRA_3.14.406.2_Radio_15.42.50.11U_2.15.50.14_LEO_S_Ship.exe downloaded from htc site.
I now realize that this ROM is not that i expected and i want to try ARTEMIS. BUt i don't arrive to flasch it now and i realize that i don't rellay understand the architecture of ROMs in my fone... as far has i understand the SPL or(HSPL or SSPL) is a kind of boot software who alllow the installation of only some type of ROM. After this there is the OS ROM, the driver ROM (RADIO)....
So my questioin are :
Is there any schematic or definition about the full architecture of HTC HD ROM, a compatibility board??
What is excatly the meaning of SPL HSPL SSPL, what are they roles?
I would like to know how does the differents ROM are linked, what are the constraint?
I mean as an electronician i imagine that the electrical part of the mobiles fone are the same so normally i can flash everything on every fone... But i realize it's not the case and i don't arrive to catch how does it work//
Thank You.

OK I can not fully answer your question here, but i will share what I know, also check out my little guide i wrote linked in my sig,
The bootloader is made up of what is called IPL and SPL. IPL stands for Initial Progam Loader which is resonsable for loading and initializing the hardware of the device on boot up. Without this the device does not work, it will not even turn on. This is why when you brick a device it will not turn on because you have removed or currupted the bootloader which contains the IPL. SPL stands for Secondary Program Loader wich is responsable for loading or booting up your ROM and allowing you to flash another ROM to your device. SPL wil only allow official or Signed ROMs to be flashed to your device this is due to the CID. HSPL stands for Hard Secoundary Program Loader wich does the same thing as SPL but the deference between SPL and HSPL is SPL can be changed flashing a singed ROM via RUU and HSPL can not be changed when flashing a signed ROM via RUU. HSPL also disables the CID and allows unofficial or custom ROMs to be flashed to your device.
Also software on phones and mobile devices are usually device spacific so you can not use it on other devices. This is why you can not just flash any kind of device software to your device. Bootloaders are very devices spacicic with out a bootloader a device will not do anything.
I do not know of any schematic or the such that is accessable by the general public or atleast I have not found one.

Just check out his guide. I think it'll give you what you need.

Kailkti said:
Just check out his guide. I think it'll give you what you need.
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If you have some of what the OP is asking for please by all means send it to me via PM also as my brain hungers for information LOL.
But seriously I would love to see anything you have are any info you can provide.

Hi!
Thanks for ur reply, sorry that i didn't find out the information in the forum before.
It's start to be more understandable for me.
So now next step, is how to identify exactly the model of my fone? i have the serial number, but i didn't wrote down what was the SPL and version i originally had
What are the limitations? why i can't simply put the latest version of HSPL, and flash all rom i want? Is there different electrical model of T8585 wich correspond to some specific SPL, wich correspond to specific ROM? Or is it just a question of association of good SPL/HSPL/ROM
And is there a compatibility board?
ANs i don't really understand the notion of bricking fone: it only happen if you damage your IPL, but as far as i understand, the IPL is never changed when you falsh ROM: at maximum you change the SPL...????
About ROMs:
I have:
official HTC 3.14.406.2 (04666) FRE
This ROM contain
System version 5.2.21913 (21913.5.0.94)
Manila 2.5.20181527.0
Radio drivers 2.15.50.14
Protocol version 15.42.50.11U
Here i don't understand well what is contained in the ROM and what could be changed separaltly, i mean i read about RADIO ROM... it means that i can flash a radio ROM separatly of the HTC official ROM?
I didn't undestand exactly also what are the different function of these:
System version: it's the operating system part of the ROM: WINDOW6.5???
Manila: It's the MMI developed by HTC, the "SENSE"???
Radio it's the drivers dor the radio chipset in my phone??
Protocol version i don't have a clue of what is it??
And is it for example the same radio wich are used for android and window?
Thanks again for your help.

Guilhem31 said:
Hi!
Thanks for ur reply, sorry that i didn't find out the information in the forum before.
It's start to be more understandable for me.
So now next step, is how to identify exactly the model of my fone? i have the serial number, but i didn't wrote down what was the SPL and version i originally had
What are the limitations? why i can't simply put the latest version of HSPL, and flash all rom i want? Is there different electrical model of T8585 wich correspond to some specific SPL, wich correspond to specific ROM? Or is it just a question of association of good SPL/HSPL/ROM
And is there a compatibility board?
ANs i don't really understand the notion of bricking fone: it only happen if you damage your IPL, but as far as i understand, the IPL is never changed when you falsh ROM: at maximum you change the SPL...????
About ROMs:
I have:
official HTC 3.14.406.2 (04666) FRE
This ROM contain
System version 5.2.21913 (21913.5.0.94)
Manila 2.5.20181527.0
Radio drivers 2.15.50.14
Protocol version 15.42.50.11U
Here i don't understand well what is contained in the ROM and what could be changed separaltly, i mean i read about RADIO ROM... it means that i can flash a radio ROM separatly of the HTC official ROM?
I didn't undestand exactly also what are the different function of these:
System version: it's the operating system part of the ROM: WINDOW6.5???
Manila: It's the MMI developed by HTC, the "SENSE"???
Radio it's the drivers dor the radio chipset in my phone??
Protocol version i don't have a clue of what is it??
And is it for example the same radio wich are used for android and window?
Thanks again for your help.
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I am still learning about all of this myself and someone else here may be able to give you a more in depth answer. But I will share what I do know with you.
To find if you have a T-Mobile T8585 just look at your HD2. If it has T-Mobile at the top of the front of the phone and it has a green send button and a red end button then it is a T8585. If it does not have this it is a International/Eroupean model. I am not 100% sure about this but you can either go to Settings>About Phone>Hardware information to get the model number or look under your battery. As I said I am not 100 % sure about that as I am on my HD2 right now and can not pull the battery and I am runningvAndroid and not Windows Mobile
As for your limitations question the T8585 better known as the TMOUS has more ROM and RAM than the regular HD2s. Therefore it has a little different internals then regular HD2s. The ROMs made for the TMOUS are made to to take advantage of it's extra ROM and RAM. Just as the SPL 2.08.0000 and SPL 3.03.0000 were made to work with it also. (It is also a SPL 3.10.0000 out for the TMOUS now) Being that the HSPL versions are made from the SPL versions then this is why you only want to flash HSPL 2.08 or HSPL 3.03 to the TMOUS. If you don't you may uncounted problems as these vesionscare made to work with the ROMs for the TMOUS. Now this does not mean that the ROMs for the TMOUS can not be flashed to a regular HD2 it just means you do not want to flash a ROM for the international HD2s to the TMOUS. For one they are not made for it's ROM and RAM, two they have radio versions that contain 51's in them and they will brick a TMOUS. Once you have flashed HSPL to your TMOUS you can flash any custom ROM that is based of of a stock TMOUS ROM but Nome other because like I said if it was not meant for the TMOUS itcwill not operate correctly on the TMOUS
The only compatibility board is the maim board/mother board of the HD2. But I think you can not put a TMOUS main board in a international HD2, bit I do think you can put a international main board in a TMOUS. My question is though why would you want to? Lol
You are correct when you brick a HD2 you have screwed up the IPL hence a brick HD2 will not even turn on. I am not exactly sure why flashing the wrong radio will brick a TMOUS but it THECIPL and the radio must have some kind of direst corolation to each other. Yes when you flash a ROM that has a different SPL version included in the image than it chang the SPL. Unless you have HSPL, but this only hold true when you flash via RUU not via SD card. When you flash via SD card the Bootloader is what actually does the flash and it is only programed to flash the intiror image not just the ROM and Radio if HSPL is present.
A full ROM image contains a SPL version, a splash screen, a radio version, and a ROM version. You can flash any of of these seperate from one another via RUU or SD card but it has to just be the item you want to flash in the .nbh file.
You are spot on with your understanding of whthe the system version, the mantilla version, and the radio version is. I am still not quit sure what the protocol version is myselfcso if you find out let me know.
Yes the same radios that you use in Windows Mobile are used for Android on THE HD2 as radio software is device spacific and can only be used on the device it was made for.

T8585 doesn't mean tmous, all regular hd2 are t8585. Telstra are t9193, and I'm not sure the tmous even HAS a Tcode...., im sure it must, and it could be t8585, but just letting you know.
Also, regular hd2 3.14 roms come with 3.03.0000, so spl 3.x is not tmous specific, and indeed if you flash a 3.14 rom onto a regular hd2 without having spl 3.x it will not work. (Well it will, but badly) But you already knew this from your guide!

samsamuel said:
T8585 doesn't mean tmous, all regular hd2 are t8585. Telstra are t9193, and I'm not sure the tmous even HAS a Tcode...., im sure it must, and it could be t8585, but just letting you know.
Also, regular hd2 3.14 roms come with 3.03.0000, so spl 3.x is not tmous specific, and indeed if you flash a 3.14 rom onto a regular hd2 without having spl 3.x it will not work. (Well it will, but badly) But you already knew this from your guide!
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Once again thanks for the info Sam. This is how a forum should work everyone contributing knowledge to help one another. And if someone says you are wrong learn from them and not get made and lash back at them for only trying to help you out. I want to say thanks to all the members that are regularly on here trying to help and inform people as you all have taught me so much sense I have been here and have all been more than gracious. I recently started venturing to other HD2 forums here on XDA and have been greatly offended by some members that are there. Thankscagain to onecand all.

you are most welcome, and im glad you dont take offence, cos none is intended. Knowledge is power, and all that, hehe.

T-Macgnolia said:
Once again thanks for the info Sam. This is how a forum should work everyone contributing knowledge to help one another. And if someone says you are wrong learn from them and not get made and lash back at them for only trying to help you out. I want to say thanks to all the members that are regularly on here trying to help and inform people as you all have taught me so much sense I have been here and have all been more than gracious. I recently started venturing to other HD2 forums here on XDA and have been greatly offended by some members that are there. Thankscagain to onecand all.
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Yup, he beat me to it. The TMOUS model does not have a number, just a name: "T-Mobile HD2". The 8585 is the international model.

Merci beaucoup!!
Thank you very much for all this informations, sorry for my late reply.
So i'll try to apply this on my Hd2 now, i will let you know.... Cause right now my phone work very badly and i'm not statisfied with that!

[Q] Telstra HTC HD2 Running Android

Hello, Sorry if this message is posted in the wrong area, but this is my first post, i am a noob PLEASE HELP!
I have an unlocked Telstra branded HTC HD2 T9193 running the stock wm6.5
ROM and the stock RADIO.
OS Version 5.2.2169 (21869.5.0.82)
Manila Version 2.5.20121431.1
ROM Version 1.72.841.0 (82124) WWE
Radio Version 2.07.51.22_2
Protocol Version 15.32.50.07U
I want to run the NexusHD2 android build from my SD card but i have tried and it just sits at the linux boot code screen forever. I have looked on XDA developers and have found that i have to install HSPL3 and then flash the 2.15.50.14 RADIO ROM. Is this true? is there any other way to boot android without re flashing? I love my HD2 and am scared i will brick it? How can i ensure that i do not brick it (if i have to re flash a RADIO).

HTC_645 said:
How can i ensure that i do not brick it (if i have to re flash a RADIO).
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only tmous needs to be careful, , the radio brick you heard about doesn't affect you. (Well, there's always a slim chance with any flashing, but the infamous 'i flashed this radio/stock rom and now it wont turn on' brick doesnt affect your phone.)

samsamuel said:
only tmous needs to be careful, , the radio brick you heard about doesn't affect you. (Well, there's always a slim chance with any flashing, but the infamous 'i flashed this radio/stock rom and now it wont turn on' brick doesnt affect your phone.)
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So with TMOS devices you cannot flash a xx.xx.51.xx RADIO and have to flash a xx.xx.50.xx RADIO, but with a European or Australian device you can flash a xx.xx.50.xx RADIO, such as 2.15.50.14?

Yep, tmous 2.06.50 or higher,, must be x.xx.50
Regular+telstra - any radio, ..50.. or ..51.., will flash, however for compatibility with various things, (unlocking ram, using nand android, magldr) use high numbered ..50.. radios, 2.11.50 up to 2.15.50

samsamuel said:
Yep, tmous 2.06.50 or higher,, must be x.xx.50
Regular+telstra - any radio, ..50.. or ..51.., will flash, however for compatibility with various things, (unlocking ram, using nand android, magldr) use high numbered ..50.. radios, 2.11.50 up to 2.15.50
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Ok thanks, i have one more question. Can i use my stock ROM with the new 2.15.50.14 RADIO, or will windows crash, and make me have to install a custom ROM?

It will be fine.

samsamuel said:
It will be fine.
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Ok, thanks again for your help