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(edit) Quickmenu in english is out !
Hola amigos, since I don't use wisbar anymore I'd love to find such a launcher.
I want cascaded, direct access to the (initially submenu) programs list
I don't need to have recent apps or settings (builtin start menu already does the job quite well).
Cubes are useless to me (too slow, uncomplete lists, don't use the contacts fav. page)
Do you know something like that, or is it still to develop ?
Would you like it as well ?
And at last, does someone know how to make a shortcut that launch builtin start menu ?
Thanks for reading !
SmallMenu seems to be the perfect candidate for you. the start menu that SmallMenu uses is customizable, so you can take out the Recent Programs and Settings as you wish, as well as adding other items such as Running Tasks or Task Management Tools, among other things.
or WisBar Lite.
Thanks for your answers, I just tried both of them:
Wisbar lite is too slow at scrolling application list and can't directly display programs (one need to open the programs submenu).
SmallMenu is really cool. It's uglish, but it does its job well.
I may write another launcher to fit exactly what I need with a better look.
Meanwhile, thank you for the hint !
So, what you want is a pretty SmallMenu? How pretty you want it to be? I mean.. er.. care for a photoshopped of what you are having in mind?
Ok, I just played a bit more with SmallMenu & it's almost perfect.
Actually, I'm member of the Ban-The-Stylus association
Above all I want bigger buttons (I should have mentionned it before), for easy thumb operation.
Also a better look would be nice.
So I need a bigger font (that looks better), separators between each row and a gradient background for each row as well.
The ability to have running tasks displayed in a submenu is also great, and so would be the closing icon if it was, once more, bigger.
Or much better, if we could close the application with tap 'n hold !
I'd be glad to purchase if that wishlist is fulfilled, the problem is, I can't even find a Contact link on their homepage, while the development seems active. Weird.
Do you have an idea how to contact them ?
Small menu is great and all. But isnt there any program out there that can cascade the start menu and dosent give you all the extra stuff thats in small menu and wisebar lite?
I just want a program that cascades the start menu. no task manger, no soft reset, no battery meter and so on....
KidGixxer said:
Small menu is great and all. But isnt there any program out there that can cascade the start menu and dosent give you all the extra stuff thats in small menu ?
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You can disable them. I don't think your concern is about 20/30kb storage space ?
I've been using SmallMenuPlus for a few months and find it too useful to be without. Organize your programs into like directories and it's too easy.
With it being an execute file you can link it to a hard button, cube, shortcut or even a FTouchFlo launch swipe
Now I have no use for the default WM Start bar except to get into Settings (SmallMenu seems to forget where this is on every S/R).
I have no problem navigating and selecting with my thumb, although slightly larger icons wouldn't be rejected.
Taping the small icon in the top left corner can be hit-and-miss sometimes so I made my own larger one and select it with the 'Use external skin for start button' option. This way I can't miss it but still leave a little room to get the default Start bar if I need to. Make your icon 25 high and any width, mine is 42x25.
No one is aware how to contact Small Menu authors ?
Do we get an email address to contact them when we register ?
I'd like to see if they can do something about my requests before I register.... but no forum, no contact form, no email, too bad
alternatively you could try psw indibar 2.7.0 for cascading menus, (have tried the lot and to me, this one's the keeper), and it tops up by giving ram and or battery meters on the top bar, or anywhere you want.
Customization is a pain in the beginning, but once done you;ll be happy
www.apoxsoft.com
lastnikita said:
No one is aware how to contact Small Menu authors ?
Do we get an email address to contact them when we register ?
I'd like to see if they can do something about my requests before I register.... but no forum, no contact form, no email, too bad
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Try [email protected]
how about "quick menu"... a totally free cascading menu supporting today themes without handicaping the original today menu....the only problem is...only simplified chinese version is available....
http://www.yonsm.net/read.php?358&page=6
note: the latest version is 2.7 which was released on 22/10
by the way, this is his email address: [email protected] egg on him to release an english version if you like quick menu as i do^^
Thanks a lot for both suggestion and contact link, I'll give them a try later tonight !
I have sent a mail to that guy. His other software is in english so I think we have a chance.
iiiox said:
how about "quick menu"... a totally free cascading menu supporting today themes without handicaping the original today menu....the only problem is...only simplified chinese version is available....
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I'm giving up on trying it, too lazy ^^
Does it support font customization (size) ?
Lastnikita,
This is something I am very interested in, if that gives you any motivation.
I too used to use Wisbar but it was far too hit and miss for my liking. Sometimes it would load in, sometimes not. It all depended on teh theme in use at the time as it was sensitive to some, not sensitive to others. In the end I pulled it.
Will keep a watching brief on this thread to see how you get on.
Cheers
WB
iiiox said:
how about "quick menu"... a totally free cascading menu supporting today themes without handicaping the original today menu....the only problem is...only simplified chinese version is available....
http://www.yonsm.net/read.php?358&page=6
note: the latest version is 2.7 which was released on 22/10
by the way, this is his email address: [email protected] egg on him to release an english version if you like quick menu as i do^^
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Oh yea this program rocks. I searched around for QuickMenu 2.6. from what i found out, he is working on an english version but having problems.
wacky.banana said:
I too used to use Wisbar but it was far too hit and miss for my liking. Sometimes it would load in, sometimes not. It all depended on teh theme in use at the time as it was sensitive to some, not sensitive to others. In the end I pulled it.
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Not to sound like a commercial but if plain old vanilla cascading start menu is what you want then why not use WA3 with the default theme which looks pretty much like the WM6 default and disable all the bells and whistles?
I've never heard of a case where the default theme wouldn't load -- it was usually the fancy aftermarket themes that added all of the extra graphics and sounds that caused the loading problems.
can't you just use wm5newmenu?
making this now this is for Touch Settings updates.
THanks Carlos!
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making this now this is for Touch Settings updates.
THanks Carlos!
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Where is the file for the " Touch Settings " ? You should start by attaching the settings file since this will be the main thread for Touch Settings
i posted detailed instructions as to how to get the "Touch Settings" program to work correctly on the Sprint Touch a few days ago. I'll re-post it over in the Vogue forum shortly
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i posted detailed instructions as to how to get the "Touch Settings" program to work correctly on the Sprint Touch a few days ago. I'll re-post it over in the Vogue forum shortly
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Please don't re-post this information, as I have now built a new version of the program that should work on the Sprint Touch without any special instructions required. It's been tested by Sprint users and seems to be working well so far.
You can download the beta (v1.29d) from www.fatattitude.com/software
For installation instructions please see: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324556
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Carlos
Works great on HTC Touch! WooHoo!
Very Nice job. Very Nice, indeed.
Personally, I wanted the photo to launch the HTC Camera Album.lnk the way you can scroll with your finger & zoom, etc.
So, I created the Photos button in MediaHub to be:
\WindowsHTCAlbum.exe
Params: -mode:camera -type:image
when i try and install the settings app i get a error messsage about
"Installation was unsuccessful. The program or settings cannot be installed because it does not have sufficient system permissions"
how do i chang it so i can install and run this.. thanks
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when i try and install the settings app i get a error messsage about
"Installation was unsuccessful. The program or settings cannot be installed because it does not have sufficient system permissions"
how do i chang it so i can install and run this.. thanks
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If you look at the post at the top of this page by Carlos, you'll see he says, "For installation instructions please see: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324556."
He also gives these suggestions:
- If you're installing to Storage Card, try installing to the Device instead.
- If you still get the error, try resetting your device and installing again - this honestly worked for me!
- Check there is enough free storage space on your device.
- Try a manual installation (zip file coming to first post shortly)
There are many posts about this in other threads, so you should be able to find the info you need.
Carlos,
Any reason to upgrade to 1.29e if d is working well?
Secondly, if we do upgrade - do you have to uninstall first? or can you overwrite the program?
I don't seem to be able to see a changes history. I'll keep looking.
carlos said there is a new touch settings version comming out soon where it will help implement animations and custom icons will show when the cube turns. WOOT. and we wont have to install the updated Exe, it will be updated for us.,.]
THANKS CARLOS!
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carlos said there is a new touch settings version comming out soon where it will help implement animations and custom icons will show when the cube turns. WOOT. and we wont have to install the updated Exe, it will be updated for us.,.]
THANKS CARLOS!
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I've been absent for a few days and WOW...things are shaping up! Thanks Carlos! You are awesome! (Enough exclamation points?)
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making this now this is for Touch Settings updates.
THanks Carlos!
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I have spent a good deal of time getting my Sprint Touch to display my local weather by using N2A's "patched" HtcHome.dll which points at a server that does support my local weather (unlike the Htc's accuweather server). Now I would like to use 'Touch Settings' to easily customize what apps get launched from my 3x2 app launcher and the media hub buttons, but I'm not sure if I dare do this yet since I haven't seen anyone explain how 'Touch Settings' accomplishes displaying local weather.
Can anyone tell me how it does this? My concern is that it may conflict with the patched home plugin I already have working.
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I have spent a good deal of time getting my Sprint Touch to display my local weather by using N2A's "patched" HtcHome.dll which points at a server that does support my local weather (unlike the Htc's accuweather server). Now I would like to use 'Touch Settings' to easily customize what apps get launched from my 3x2 app launcher and the media hub buttons, but I'm not sure if I dare do this yet since I haven't seen anyone explain how 'Touch Settings' accomplishes displaying local weather.
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Hi SprintTouchGuy
Touch Settings updates the registry keys at \HKLM\Software\HTC\HomePlug\Weather\Settings
I don't think this should change your server settings etc, and it certainly won't change which .dll file your weather is pulled from.
Why not do a registry backup of that key, try out Touch Settings and if there are any problems, just restore your registry? I think you'll be OK with it.
Hi all
I have a new beta of Touch Settings v2.0 that I'd really like a couple of people to test for me, in particular people with Vogues and Touch Duals, especially pp18 and that other kind person who volunteered.
I have posted it in:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324556&page=20
....if you could keep feedback in that thread for now please? Feels like we have too many threads going at once otherwise and gets confusing!
Thanks,
Carlos
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Hi SprintTouchGuy
Touch Settings updates the registry keys at \HKLM\Software\HTC\HomePlug\Weather\Settings
I don't think this should change your server settings etc, and it certainly won't change which .dll file your weather is pulled from.
Why not do a registry backup of that key, try out Touch Settings and if there are any problems, just restore your registry? I think you'll be OK with it.
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Works great...thanks Carlos!
One thing I noticed would be interested in finding out if other Sprint Touch users are seeing: after updating my "On Demand" app launcher's button to open a different app in the mediahub, the "Demand" in the text "On Demand" is now half cut-off. I assume this text (which I would like to change anyway) is stored in the registry somewhere and is not editable via Touch Settings yet. I can spend some time researching which settings to manually change in the registry, but if you are going to add this feature soon to the app, then I won't spend the time.
Thanks again, regardless...
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Works great...thanks Carlos!
I assume this text (which I would like to change anyway) is stored in the registry somewhere and is not editable via Touch Settings yet.
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Hi SprintTouchGuy
Glad it's working for you! If you run Touch Settings, you should be able to click in the grey box where it says "On Demand" and change the text to anything you like... ...let me know if it doesn't work for any reason.
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Hi SprintTouchGuy
Glad it's working for you! If you run Touch Settings, you should be able to click in the grey box where it says "On Demand" and change the text to anything you like... ...let me know if it doesn't work for any reason.
C
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Thanks Carlos...I can't believe I didn't think to at least try tapping in there! (Oh me of little faith...)
Next minor issue:
I made my bottom mediahub button say "Voice Recorder", and the word "Recorder" wrapped to a second line which is half-way cut off. I see that text wraps on the middle button as well, and although it doesn't get cut off it does look off-center vertically. I don't know if there is any way to adjust the text vertically with the magic that you do, so for now I'll try to come up with one word labels for the buttons to avoid the issue.
I also am curous what parameter to use to get the HtcAlbum.exe to launch the Camera Album to display just videos, like the 2nd-row 3rd button in does in the 9 button app launcher that comes on the 3rd tab of the HTC Home plugin. Does anybody know what I need to supply? I believe there is a mode: option, but when trying "mode:video" it still only comes up displaying pictures, and it does so in portrait view, not in landscape view like it does from the app launcher (which I prefer). My apologies if this has been discussed already...thanks!
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Hi SprintTouchGuy
Glad it's working for you! If you run Touch Settings, you should be able to click in the grey box where it says "On Demand" and change the text to anything you like... ...let me know if it doesn't work for any reason.
C
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Carlos - this is kind of a QA issue with the interface. Can I make the suggestion that you change the color of that box from gray to something like yellow? The first few times I opened the app I thought it was the typical "grayed out" box -- meaning I couldn't edit it. Whereas when I see a yellow box it grabs my attention and suggests I should be doing something with it...
Hey guys,
I developed a small application which adds functionality to the X1 keys and keyboard. The reason why I made this program is, that I can't find a decent button mapping tool out there that does what I want - that is:
Extend the normal keys with long press and assign programs/functions to it
Extend the keyboard with a Control key (Tab key is reassigned to control key)
Assign missing FN+Key combination with additional special character or applications
Assign the ok button with really closing an application, depending on your task manager
To achieve this, I was writing this small app which itself checks for specific key events and starts mort script files in case such an event happens. I chose Mortscript because it easily allows everyone to define about almost everything that is possible and the application doesn't need a fancy UI to configure the key events.
You can find a readme within the archive which describes the program in more detail and you can also find some example script files for MortScript as a starting point.
For installation, you have to copy the X1ButtonMapperScripts folder of the archive to your root (\) directory of the device. You also need to install MortScript which you can find at Mort's homepage (mort.sto-helit.de). MortScript is a small and powerful application which is often used and mature. After that, you have to start X1ButtonMapper.exe and then the specific key presses will cause the calling of the script files. When you did not encounter any problems (software is still in testing phase), you can copy a link to the X1ButtonMapper.exe into your \Windows\Autostart folder for automatic loading at reset.
My current configuration, just for example, is as follows:
Ok short press closes an application, Ok long press (~500 ms) causes an app to minimize
Long press of left softkey opens start menu
Long press of right softkey opens MortButtons
Long press of volume up opens comm manager
Long press of volume down opens SPB task manager (Alt+Tab)
FN+a/s/d/f writes special characters I miss on the keyboard (%_\€)
FN+y/x opens Wifi network selection and resco explorer (FN+C/V are unused)
I would appreciate to get any feedback about this software, if it works, what you like, don't like and desperately miss.
Please be aware that this software is free and you are allowed to redistribute it, but please don't change it and always distribute the whole zip archive and not the extracted files!
Please be also aware that this software is in a testing phase and may hang up your device and may even cause data loss (not happened to me yet but theoratically possible). So please backup your data and be aware that I can't be held responsible in case this happens!
Update: V. 1.2 now allows to keep the original OK button function without change and to use Fn+Tab for sending the original Tab key!
i havent used your program but when i was looking for one such as yours, i came across ae button plus. im not familiar with scripts and programing and so i find ae button plus a good program. its not free but for $8, i think its worth it.
otherwise, keep up the good work. we need people like you to get the most of of our phones.
Would it not make more sense to remap the au key rather then tab key to ctrl? I use my tab key for form entry.
AE Buttons plus cannot do what this program does, that's why I did the hassle to develop it. Also PQz2 doesn't do what I need. For example you can't assign FN+x combinations with AE buttons plus and you can't remap the ok button (at least it didn't work for me).
Regarding the tab key, I tried to make FN+Tab to send the tab key, but that didn't really work. Maybe in some next release it will work, but I still think that the Tab key is dispensible.
Regarding the scripts, it's really easy and you can find ready scripts for almost any task. Also I did include some examples as a starting point. The scripts offer a lot more flexibility than any of the button mapping tools existing, so, take the challenge, it's worth it!
Pyrojester said:
Would it not make more sense to remap the au key rather then tab key to ctrl? I use my tab key for form entry.
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Did I miss something or does this remap ctrl to tab? That would be a HUGE thing in my opinion... And no, the au button is used here a lot...
Yes, remapping Tab to Ctrl is one of the fixed mappings it does. One of the most powerful things and something I really missed with AEButtons.
With Ctrl on the keyboard you get copy and paste, wordwise navigation with the cursor, Undo/Redo and wordwise delete/backspace. Check the readme in the Zip File for more details.
I also added Fn+DPad for PageUp/Down and Home/End - also something I really missed before.
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Yes, remapping Tab to Ctrl is one of the fixed mappings it does. One of the most powerful things and something I really missed with AEButtons.
With Ctrl on the keyboard you get copy and paste, wordwise navigation with the cursor, Undo/Redo and wordwise delete/backspace. Check the readme in the Zip File for more details.
I also added Fn+DPad for PageUp/Down and Home/End - also something I really missed before.
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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Will instal later today...!!!!
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[*]Extend the keyboard with a Control key (Tab key is reassigned to control key)
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and I am officially blind...
Can this program work alongside aebutton plus? That would be great as they both have big advantages. I know this version of the CE core of WM only supports one key hook and I am pretty sure aebp uses a key hook. Are you using a key hook here? Is anyone using both? Great work!
Actually I uninstalled AEButtonsPlus before I was starting the development of this application. There is indeed a limitation about keyboard hooks in WinCE and my program uses them - don't know about AEButtonPlus.
There is a software available which claims to remove this limitation of windows mobile - it is called HookMgr and you can download it for free - check Google. I did not test it nor would I recommend to install several applications using keyboard hooks - they will most likely interfere with each other.
What is it that AEButtonsPlus has that you miss with my application?
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Actually I uninstalled AEButtonsPlus before I was starting the development of this application. There is indeed a limitation about keyboard hooks in WinCE and my program uses them - don't know about AEButtonPlus.
There is a software available which claims to remove this limitation of windows mobile - it is called HookMgr and you can download it for free - check Google. I did not test it nor would I recommend to install several applications using keyboard hooks - they will most likely interfere with each other.
What is it that AEButtonsPlus has that you miss with my application?
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I did not know about that HookMgr software. Interesting.
I have not yet had the chance to try AEButtonPlus, but I believe it allows programming the short press and also double press of all the keys (was not aware of the ok key limitation). Is there a reason why you only provide long press options? Double press is not really necessary, but I would like to change the short press options. IIRC (I should probably stop making comments before my X1 even arrives but can't help it. so exciting) out of the box, only the short press of the soft keys is configurable. It would still be nice if you grabbed these so that I could configure all my buttons in the same place. Also, it doesn't seem that you provide a way to program the short or long press of the panel key. Would this be possible? Lastly, it might be good to make changing tab to ctrl optional and or offer another key to change. The addition of a ctrl key is great, but tab is also useful. The original renderings of the X1 back in January showed a ctrl key on the keyboard. Dont know who's idea it was to delete it.
I would love to help out. I could write a settings application for you that would store the options in the registry. Rather than running the scripts, it could look in the registry for what to execute. By default the registry values would just be the scripts, but users could change it to run an exe directly. I could also make a cab for it. The settings app would be in .NET. Let me know if this sounds good.
BTW, I think the ok and win keys would make good ctrl keys btw, as they are redundant to the keys on the front; ok button being my choice.
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Is there a reason why you only provide long press options? Double press is not really necessary, but I would like to change the short press options.
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I only provide the long press option because detecting double or even triple clicks would delay every button click and therefore reaction time, that's why I didn't realize it. I kept the short press of the keys (except OK) because they all make sense to me. You need the Softkeys, so their short press needs to be kept and the loudness up/down is essential in my opinion.
I also decided not to allow to remap the camera button because its handling is a bit difficult (two press levels) and I think the camera button is necessary when you really consider using the camera.
I also left the hang up and pick up buttons untouched because they already have short and long press actions (devicelock and handsfree) and I did not want to touch functions which are installed pretty deep into the system. I also like the function the way it is.
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Also, it doesn't seem that you provide a way to program the short or long press of the panel key. Would this be possible?
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Sure I did - actually I wanted to map it with opening the start menu but it can't be suppressed, not even by a keyboard hook! By the way, this is also the case with the symbol key - can't be remapped!
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Lastly, it might be good to make changing tab to ctrl optional and or offer another key to change. The addition of a ctrl key is great, but tab is also useful. The original renderings of the X1 back in January showed a ctrl key on the keyboard. Dont know who's idea it was to delete it.
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Yeah, the ctrl button was one of the main reasons why I wrote this application. Also that the X1 keyboard leaves many Fn+Letter combinations unused which is just stupid. As I said, I wanted FN+Tab to send the tab key but that didn't work for some reason. Also I think that Tab is disturbing when writing because when touching it for accident you get holes in your text :/
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I would love to help out. I could write a settings application for you that would store the options in the registry. Rather than running the scripts, it could look in the registry for what to execute. By default the registry values would just be the scripts, but users could change it to run an exe directly. I could also make a cab for it. The settings app would be in .NET. Let me know if this sounds good.
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Actually I don't see any problem with the scripts. They offer a lot more flexibility that a UI can ever give and for newbies the experienced could offer a set of reasonable scripts, so I don't see any issue with this. MortScript is easy to use and way more powerful than any button mapper UI on the market - why do people always want GUIs?
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BTW, I think the ok and win keys would make good ctrl keys btw, as they are redundant to the keys on the front; ok button being my choice.
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First of all, you can't separate between the ok key of the keyboard and the ok key on the front on the level of the keyboard hook, so it would be impossible to remap the one without the other. The win key is not redundant and therefore I decided to keep it because I find it very useful.
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First of all, you can't separate between the ok key of the keyboard and the ok key on the front on the level of the keyboard hook, so it would be impossible to remap the one without the other. The win key is not redundant and therefore I decided to keep it because I find it very useful.
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Ah. That stinks about the ok key.
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I only provide the long press option because detecting double or even triple clicks would delay every button click and therefore reaction time, that's why I didn't realize it. I kept the short press of the keys (except OK) because they all make sense to me. You need the Softkeys, so their short press needs to be kept and the loudness up/down is essential in my opinion.
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True. I wasn't really interested in double and triple. Just really the short. About the softkeys, normally I would not remap soft keys, but the X1 has a shortage of customizable buttons so I would like to change them.
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I also decided not to allow to remap the camera button because its handling is a bit difficult (two press levels) and I think the camera button is necessary when you really consider using the camera.
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Interesting. On my tilt, I had short press opens camera album and long press opens the camera. Something similar would be interesting. Not a big thing though.
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Sure I did - actually I wanted to map it with opening the start menu but it can't be suppressed, not even by a keyboard hook! By the way, this is also the case with the symbol key - can't be remapped!
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That stinks! Why do they insist on forcing panels on us? I do believe there is a registry key that can change what the panel button does though. You should look into that if you dont use the panels or just dont want a dedicated key. I am trying to find that info.
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Actually I don't see any problem with the scripts. They offer a lot more flexibility that a UI can ever give and for newbies the experienced could offer a set of reasonable scripts, so I don't see any issue with this. MortScript is easy to use and way more powerful than any button mapper UI on the market - why do people always want GUIs?
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Lol. I guess its not necessarily a GUI but just options that would be good. You are right, the scripts are very flexible so no point in changing that. The only options I would really like is a choice about the ctrl key (possibly make the win key an option) and an option of whether or not to capture the short press soft keys.
Thanks for takin the time to explain all of your decisions. This is really great software! Hope I dont seem like I am asking a lot. Just some suggestions. Thanks!
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About the softkeys, normally I would not remap soft keys, but the X1 has a shortage of customizable buttons so I would like to change them.
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You can remap the Softkeys already in the button configuration of Win Mobile, but I personally wouldn't do it. Better to remap them for the today screen via registry and using the long press events from my software for additonal functionality. This way it doesn't interfere with the sytem at all.
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That stinks! Why do they insist on forcing panels on us? I do believe there is a registry key that can change what the panel button does though. You should look into that if you dont use the panels or just dont want a dedicated key. I am trying to find that info.
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Well, I think that's just the way it is integrated into the system. Maybe by some kind of driver or something. The "sym" key behaves the same way. We have to live with that fact.
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The only options I would really like is a choice about the ctrl key (possibly make the win key an option) and an option of whether or not to capture the short press soft keys.
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The softkey can originally already be remapped and for the tab key the best solution would be FN+Tab = Tab. I will have a look into this again.
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Thanks for takin the time to explain all of your decisions. This is really great software! Hope I dont seem like I am asking a lot. Just some suggestions. Thanks!
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Yeah, that's fine. I would actually like some feedback from people who tried the software. Anyone?
Here it is for those who want to know:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=448067
(Remap panel key)
I finally installed this today and it reminded me the about the good things the Touch Pro has that I previously owned. It truly amazes me that HTC does not put the ctrl key to their HW keyboards, it makes no sense to me.
I started to think that maybe it would be better to use the win key for this, win key kinda is there on top of the screen?
EDIT: and now I bothered to read posts above... fn+tab=tab could also be a good option.. After all tab is not used that often...
Great work on this, one of the best things made to X1 by XDA member so far...
At least someone having the guts to try my software - thank you for the positive feedback!
Regarding the Win-key, I wouldn't remap it because:
1. I'm using it often
2. The win key is often sent in combination with other keys and it will cause some side effects to remap it - that's why I gave up on this idea
When there's more feedback and some problems discovered that are necessary to change, I will have another look into this FN+Tab issue.
By the way, having Tab remapped to Ctrl also has a good benefit - accidental clicks on tab don't happen anymore.
Hmmmm MortScript messed up my OK button.
Hi,
I would like to disable the footprint-application from the right hardware-button, but it dosn't work. In registry under HKLM/Software/Microsoft/shell/keys I've made two new entries (40C1 and 40C2), so I can choose now the two hardware-buttons in preferences. But when I lay another program to the right hardware-button, this programm starts together with footprint...
The left hardware-button is no problem, it works fine with every programm I want
Thanks
oese
(sorry for my bad english, I hope you can understand my problem...)
Looks like it is somehow hardcoded into the TouchFLO interface. I managed to "unmap" the left key (simply by uninstalling TomTom), but I had no success with the Footprints key so far.
I think that some program or registry setting is responsible for these keys mapping.
I've managed with ae button plus to assing a different application to these keys, but the default apps run again with the new apps. And I think that because you uninstalled tomtom, just they didn't find the app and for this is not running with the new assinged app.
I don't think that is touchflo related.
dancer_69 said:
I think that some program or registry setting is responsible for these keys mapping.
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I am not sure mate, tried to look almost everywhere in the registry with no success. But I'll keep trying, the Navi and Footprints buttons sux. I'd rather have Diamond's/HD's Back and Home keys, if nothing better.
dancer_69 said:
I've managed with ae button plus to assing a different application to these keys, but the default apps run again with the new apps.
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Got the same result too, when tried to map another app with AEBP.
dancer_69 said:
And I think that because you uninstalled tomtom, just they didn't find the app and for this is not running with the new assinged app. I don't think that is touchflo related.
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Sure, I know it just doesn't find the app, but at least it got me rid of TomTom (I am an iGO 8 user). I admit it's quite lousy workaround.
I think I found something.
Seems that the function of these buttons loading as a service.
I've managed to unbind the left button by stop the NaviService(NPS0 and I think that
the service App Service(APP1 is responsible for the right button, but I cannot stop this service.Needed further research though.
EDIT:
I've managed to disable it from registry(HKLM\Services\App). I changed Context and Index values to 0 and seems that the button is unbind now!
Needed to set these services to not automatic start also. This can be done with FdcSoft Task Manager 3.1
Ok, after some time playing around with my registry, I found a workaround how you can start a different program with the footprint button:
(BTW I have a German version so I'm not sure how the features are called in English, so if anyone can describe what I write next clearer, please feel free. Thx)
First you have to go to system preferences. In the system tab you'll find an option where you can make some adjustments about A-GPS and Place Settings. In the left tab you can activate and deactive A-GPS and tell your device which provider to use to access it. In the right tab you can tell the device not to notify you if some HTC software wants to start this feature which monitors the place where you are. Check this box.
This will keep the Google notifier to pop up every time you press the footprint button.
The go to the registry:
\HKLM\Software\HTC\FootCam
and simply change the path in there to any program you want to use with the button. e.g. \Program Files\ThumApps\ThumbCal\Thumbcal.exe
Well, works well, but do you have any idea if disabling these services does not cause any other issues?
After a hard reset I did the following
- installed the 40C1 and 40C2 reg key
- set the the NaviService(NPS0) to manual
Both buttons can now be used by Windows without any issue so far. No more changes were needed for me. Hope that helps. (I have a HTC Guide, that is the O2 branded version)
Sebastian
I mentioned that few posts above.
The problem is that when the NaviService doesn't run, NaviPanel doesn't start automatic when in carkit mode, even if this option is checked in carkit settings screen.
kuerbis said:
- set the the NaviService(NPS0) to manual
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Hi,
where I can find this setting?
oese
dancer_69 said:
I think I found something.
Seems that the function of these buttons loading as a service.
I've managed to unbind the left button by stop the NaviService(NPS0 and I think that
the service App Service(APP1 is responsible for the right button, but I cannot stop this service.Needed further research though.
EDIT:
I've managed to disable it from registry(HKLM\Services\App). I changed Context and Index values to 0 and seems that the button is unbind now!
Needed to set these services to not automatic start also. This can be done with FdcSoft Task Manager 3.1
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sorry for my stupid question
it works for my iolite...
THANKSALOT
Left Key
HKey_LOCAL_MACHINE\Services\NaviService
Turn «Flags» from 0 to 1
For me it works
U can read this (its in german), include a reg-file to dissolve this and a navipanel.lnk for start menu
Greetings Mirko
angeja said:
HKey_LOCAL_MACHINE\Services\NaviService
Turn «Flags» from 0 to 1
For me it works
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that thing disable my both buttons for some reason. and copilot and footprnts!! well it looks that it works for me atm.
You can use AE Button Plus, you can assign 4 different actions to each button.
Dontatos said:
that thing disable my both buttons for some reason. and copilot and footprnts!! well it looks that it works for me atm.
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Before read THIS
Then use "Start" - "Settings" - "Hardware-Buttons" to change assignment.
Greetings Mirko
Yes It Works,
Followed the steps and it works. I assigned foot prints to put phone in standby ( screen off / on ) The Off works quick, the On has a delay but I will get used to it.
Set the NAVI to Manual Start is the trick
Hello all,
have removed SPB shell yesterday (no support for real vga) and want to get my device running again in the former way. However, it seems to me, that I've lost the possibility to change the software buttons
Who can help ? Is there something to be done in the registry ?
My device is a 7510 with Michylight 6.1 - therefore also 7500/7501 users are welcoome to answer.
Dieter
You no longer have Settings>Personal>Buttons?
You can try using AE Button Plus: http://ae.inc.ru/aebplus.php
I still have settings\personal\buttons but there is only an opportunity to assign programs to the hardware buttons. I want to do it for the software-buttons displayed onscreen.
Dieter
dieterpapa said:
Hello all,
have removed SPB shell yesterday (no support for real vga) and want to get my device running again in the former way. However, it seems to me, that I've lost the possibility to change the software buttons
Who can help ? Is there something to be done in the registry ?
My device is a 7510 with Michylight 6.1 - therefore also 7500/7501 users are welcoome to answer.
Dieter
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The SoftKeyAppletEx application is a control panel applet that allows to change the applications linked to the softkeys that you find on the today screen.
http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/S...trol-Panel-Applet-SoftKeyAppletEx-55572.shtml
RemapSoftkeys allows you to modify the softkey allocation on the Today screen. It only modifies registry entries, so you don't need to keep it installed after you set your new values !
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-remap-softkeys.html
KeySwop is a simple tool for you to remap the softkeys on the today screen.
http://m.mobisapienz.com/index.php?option=com_jdownloads&Itemid=82&task=viewcategory&catid=12
hope this helps looks like the 1st one would be the best one though
Thanks so far - will test the applications.
Have to reinstall the ROM on my device, seems that ther got more corrupted during SPB de-install. Today my radio didn't work any more...
Let's see whether I get my device running again.
Dieter