what is the difference between\main storage \ RAMdisk \ storage card to the ends of installing programs and it asking which i want to install too.
also what does it mean in the main memory settings screen how it is split between STORAGE and PROGRAM.
any pointers or links to explain a little i would be greatly thankfull
i,m running a xda II HIMALAYA
ramdisk is application mem taking away to make a virtuel disk this will be faster but lost at hardreset limited in size
main storage is flash storage on the device this is slower then ramdisk but will make it pass a hardreset limited in size
sd is slower but can be replaces
thankyou! a bit of knowledge can seem so easy to people who are not noobs like me.
i will get there in the end!
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I'm all confused as to what rom is the best to install
I installed 1.60a, and used it thinking it was the best....higher version number!
It was so cool, that I wanted to read every single post, and all the excitement you guys have had while getting it to work...started reading at 10 in the night, kept reading every post, one by one, until 4:00am next morning!!!!
I then realized, holy ****, 1.50i.xx is the latest, and is more practical!!
Believe it or not, i did a complete reinstall after that at 4:00am
I further continue reading, i read that 1.60a with a ram disk is a better option!! now, i'm all confused as to what i need to install
Somebody help!!!!
Thanks guys in advance!
And Buzz.....where the hell did you get your brains from man? Do you work at ROM Cooking division of Microsoft during day, and have an MPD...morph into a hacker at night or what???!! What IDE do you use to build ROMs for microsoft....a hex editor?? Whatever, you're absofuckinlutely rocking dude!!
Best,
San
Just my two cents...
I use 1.60a because the 16MB storage + 16 MB ExtROM are persistent. Every program and data that you install into these two are still there even if the battery is dead.
Originally 1.60a was limited as it only offered a max of 32 MB to install programs and data (16MB + 16MB). But with the ramdisk you can install many more programs. However, the programs or data installed in the ramdisk are of course not persistent, which means you will lose it if the battery goes dead.
Hence, if you value persistence above storage, go for 1.60a and use the ramdisk for additional storage capacity.
If you don't care about persistence and always carry a spare battery with you, go for the 1.5xxx versions according to your storage needs.
Cheers
Pat
Hey thanks very much for your reply!
I really dont care how much device memory i have. I have a max of 10 megs of apps that need to go on device memory. The problem i faced was that, the 14 meg storage disk kept getting filled up to something around 10 megs....and i was worried where all the common dlls etc. would also end up going into this (even if i install the app onto my storage card) and end up consuming the entire storage space.
Btw, how do you gain access to other 16 meg partition? Do i need to use an ext rom unlocker or something? Where can i grab that?
Also, how do i create a RAM disk on 1.60a? I read the post, but it seems to confusing...and i didnt know what to do. Besides, i didnt have the ramdisk cab file for 1.60a. Would be great if you could mail it to me or something!
Heres my mail id - [email protected]
Once again, thanks very much!!
Best,
San
Here is Toe's file to unlock the ExtROM. Copy to PPC, start and softreset. Cheers
Pat
Hey all!
I am currently running on 1.50i.96 and am looking at upgrading to 1.60a. I dont seem to need much of on device storage space really, so i guess i'd atleast have the persistent memory benefit from 1.60a (correct me if am wrong here!)
I just unlocked my extended rom. I have a bunch of files sitting in it. The question is, can i back these files up on my computer, and get rid of it to free up space? Would that cause any problems during a hard reset or something?
The next question, how do i install the RAMDisk? Where can i find the installer for the same? Are there any procedures i'd need to follow to set my RAM disk size?
Thanks so very much!
San
i've a question fot you :
Have you read the posts about wm2005 rom in this forum ?
the 1.60 rom have 180 Mb of ram (volatile) and 14.5 Mb of Storage (persistant)
The Extended rom is NOT used by wm2005 , you can totally erase the extended rom and install all you want ....
You can install ramdisk on 1.60 rom but it's non-persistant .
persistant = : if you remove battery , content of persistant memory stay ....
non-persistant = : if you remove battery , content of non-persistant memory don't stay !!
thanks for your inputs TofClock.
I am aware of the fact that the ram disk is not persistent...the word "ram"disk is clear enough!
But i need the ram disk "just in case"...i thought it would make better sense to start using 1.60a only when i'm sure i can get more space in case i need it sometime later...for now 32 megs seems good enough though...
TofClock, by any chance could you mail me the ramdisk cab file ?? Heres my mail address...
[email protected]
Thanks again!
San
hmm...
well 1.60a has:
128MB Program memory
14.5MB Storage memory as system root
16MB ExtendedROM usable as storage
You cannot install RAMDisk on this version of ROM.
Well you can, but it will cause conflicts in the OS.
If you need more storage space, get yourself 1.50i.xx, where xx stands for amount of Program memory.
buzz
Thanks for your reply Buzz!
when I use 1.60a, I'd totally have 16MB+16MB of persistent storage right?
the question is, where do all the common files (DLLs etc.), contacts, messages etc. get installed/saved onto? One of the 16meg partitions right? My main worry is that all these common files, contacts etc. might exceed the 16meg partition that the OS is using...correct or would it??
I'd want persistent storage mainly, and as long as I can install a couple hundred megs of apps onto my storage card, I'm just fine!
thanks again big time
San
Hi all !
My Question ist, how the bootloader saves the image, if the used card is bigger than the rom? The image doesn't seam to be empty after the first 64Mbytes....
anybody knows something?
greetz MatteZ
The non-emptiness after 64MB is just the garbage what was present before dumping your rom.
You can check it by writing a specific pattern to your SD & then dump your rom.
Regards, M
after some testing i came to the same result^^
But, thanks for answering! I'm sure you wasn't the only one who knows this!
MatteZ
Probably most readers had a 'well that's obvious dude' experience.
I found out that some people on the board are really inexperienced with any kind of computers & can be helped with a small explanation.
Cheers, M
??? im not to good with my ppc, are you sayin that you can install ur rom on to an sd card??? if so, does his meen that there is the 64mb fre on the ppc storage?
if this is right, can u tell me how?
Unfortunately not. You can dump your rom on a SD-Card & save that to your hard-disk or what-ever. The magician won't boot from your SD in a way that you can free up your internal rom-memory. Man I wish it would.
You can supply a new rom to your magician in two ways: the first is with active sync and the second is via a rom-image on a sd-card. The bootloader will recognize the rom-image on the sd & start flashing it into it's internal rom memory.
So Mattezh question was about dumping his internal rom on a sd-card. If you do this & save the rom image on your PC the program to read the image from your sd will not know where the rom image ends. So it just copy every bit from your sd to your PC & that's why there's a lot of garbage in the saved image after the 64MB size of the image.
Understandable? I hope cause I know I sometimes tend to write a bit weird, I know
Great forum guys...already have had some fun modding my 8525.
I'm a convert, new to WinMo, been a Symbian supporter for 5+ years...so WinMo is new to me.
I have a noobish question. I've been loading ringtones, and .cab files onto my phone and seem to be running low on storage.
1. How do I tell how much space is left on my phone?
2. What files can I delete to make some room for important stuff?
I've searched the forum...but haven't found anything conclusive yet.
Thanks!
xj
I can answer the easy question...
To find how much storage you have go to START\SETTINGS\SYSTEM\MEMORY then select the main/storage card tab.
If you're running out of memory you can try unlocking and unhiding the extended rom which should give give you a few extra MB's. Most of the cooked WM6 roms here include Schap's advanced config which will do this for you (or maybe it can be downloaded as a cab file).
As for deleting files - the only safe ones I know about are my data files, unused programs (via uninstal) or some ringtones or other sounds in the windows or windows\rings directory.
to check your memory go to start>settings>system>memory then on the bottom theres 3 tabs..Main, Storage Card, and Running Programs..
Under Main you have Storage and Program.. Program is your ram and storage is your device memory which you can install apps to. Go to running programs and you really should only have activesyn running (if you have an exchange account that is). Anything else open is eating up your ram and will cause your device to run slow.
Now on the bottom of the memory settings it says Find large files using storage memory. Click on find and you can remove whatever you don't want.. (i don't think it'll pull up system files in the search)
My advice is to only install critical apps and apps that will be running on your today screen onto the device itself.. everything else should be installed to yoru Storage card.
If you don't delete cabs after installing them, move them over to yur storage card if you want them for later reference but they shouldn't be taking up device memory after they're installed.
thanks for the input guys, already helping me out. I look forward to being a contributing member of the forums...I'm gonna check out the wiki and sticky threads in more detail to get all the info I can.
Thanks again
As The Title Suggests, Is There Any Way To Install A ROM Onto A 16GB MicrSDHC (class 10) Instead Of The Phones Internal Memory?
I 'Googled" It For Several Hours, Unfortunately Did Not Find An Answer.
Let Me Explain Further As To What I'm Really Trying To Accomplish. I Want To Flash A(ny) ROM Onto The MicroSD Card So I Will Have The Entire Internal Memory Free On My G1. And Then (if at all possible) Somehow Use The Internal Storage As Extended RAM.
Even If This Seems "Close To Impossible", Could Someone With Enough Knowledge (a dev?) Explain How Something Like This "Could" Be Accomplished??
Thanks For Your Time! Can't Wait To Read What People Have To Say About This..
Ideas & Possible Solutions Are Better Than Just Saying 'It Can't Be Done..etc'
As for installing a rom onto sdcard (even on ext2 partition as it is being done on the HTC Fuze/Diamond/Topaz/etc windows series phones), it is completely possible, but it is very slow.. i don't see why you would want to do that even compared to NAND install if you have lots of ram
I used to be a developer for the HTC Fuze (Touch Pro) and made a 2.2 aosp SD-ext rom, it still isn't as fast as the G1 even though it has slightly higher specs: 288 ram, msm7201a (same cpu as htc dream)..
You can't extend the RAM, but you can make it swapspace. It would kill the internal memory very quickly because it is only yaffs and has a limited number of read and writes...
SH31KH said:
As The Title Suggests, Is There Any Way To Install A ROM Onto A 16GB MicrSDHC (class 10) Instead Of The Phones Internal Memory?
I 'Googled" It For Several Hours, Unfortunately Did Not Find An Answer.
Let Me Explain Further As To What I'm Really Trying To Accomplish. I Want To Flash A(ny) ROM Onto The MicroSD Card So I Will Have The Entire Internal Memory Free On My G1. And Then (if at all possible) Somehow Use The Internal Storage As Extended RAM.
Even If This Seems "Close To Impossible", Could Someone With Enough Knowledge (a dev?) Explain How Something Like This "Could" Be Accomplished??
Thanks For Your Time! Can't Wait To Read What People Have To Say About This..
Ideas & Possible Solutions Are Better Than Just Saying 'It Can't Be Done..etc'
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Google Android rom's or Operating systems have rules and limits, I do know androids 2.2 did not allow system files to run outside /system folder, now it's allowing more as you see lot's of rom's using /ext (linux partitions) I do not know all the limits, but do believe there has to be a part of the rom in internel memory to be able to boot sd-card