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After spending much of the past 24 hours trying to install both eLocity's latest firmware update (from 2/24/11) and DexMod 1.3 (so I can utilize Android Marketplace) I am probably going to give up and return my A7 to the retailer before my 30 days are up. Thank you to Dexter and everyone else who posted such informative and useful instructions on the A7 forum. I am perplexed as to why I was not successful in accomplishing the update and modification. I really do like the A7 and hate to return it, but whats the sense of owning a Android device if you can't utilize the Marketplace. Duh! I would even be willing to pay a nominal fee to a honest, tech-savvy individual to modify/update my A7 for me. Thanks again everyone, looks like I'll be shopping for a tablet thats a little more user-friendly.
Just my 2 cents... There is not eLocity (Stream TV Network) problem
Google denied Market at some tablets. G considered that their OS version 2.X is not compatible with tablets.
These tablets do not have Market "out-of-box":
Viewsonic G Tablet
Malata ZPad
Advent Vega
Archos (all versions)
etc...
Idk why Galaxy Tab has market "out-of-box". May be Samsung proved Google that it's big phone)))
StarBriteK said:
After spending much of the past 24 hours trying to install both eLocity's latest firmware update (from 2/24/11) and DexMod 1.3 (so I can utilize Android Marketplace) I am probably going to give up and return my A7 to the retailer before my 30 days are up
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Try nameing the file Update. Do not add the.dot zip, holding down the power button until the third line of text is seen then release will get you into program mode.. selling a tegra tablet to get anything other than another tegra is like going backwards...
StarBriteK said:
After spending much of the past 24 hours trying to install both eLocity's latest firmware update (from 2/24/11) and DexMod 1.3 (so I can utilize Android Marketplace) I am probably going to give up and return my A7 to the retailer before my 30 days are up. Thank you to Dexter and everyone else who posted such informative and useful instructions on the A7 forum. I am perplexed as to why I was not successful in accomplishing the update and modification. I really do like the A7 and hate to return it, but whats the sense of owning a Android device if you can't utilize the Marketplace. Duh! I would even be willing to pay a nominal fee to a honest, tech-savvy individual to modify/update my A7 for me. Thanks again everyone, looks like I'll be shopping for a tablet thats a little more user-friendly.
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Where are you located? I'm. Sure if there is a member here local to you, they'd be willing to help you out.
I'm enjoying my A7 but, I do have to give a certain amount of blame to Stream for the lack of user friendliness the device presents. There are all sorts of documentation out there for companies to reference when designing an Android device, giving them an outline of what will work. The choice to implement a code structure or hardware features that do not work or require a work-around is directly the fault of Stream, as testing should have revealed the issues.
Take a look at how long Dexter has been working on the mod many of us are using, the feedback people give after putting it through the "real world" challenge and then the subsequent updates from Dexter...if Stream did the testing and verifications on this product from concept to creation to now...someone needs to be fired or doesn't care. Without detracting from Dexter's efforts or anyone else contributing on this board but, if the customer base can put so many fixes in place:Why can't the OEM? Why are they so slow in comparison on responses? Why don't their updates fix the most common issues? How did they allow themselves to release a tablet without a proper OS and fail to do better funtionality testing?
I'm glad their are folks like Dexter out here and forums like XDA otherwise decent hardware like this would allow companies to seperate us from our dollars on inflated claims of fuctionality and force us to jump through hoops to get a remedy.
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StarBriteK said:
After spending much of the past 24 hours trying to install both eLocity's latest firmware update (from 2/24/11) and DexMod 1.3 (so I can utilize Android Marketplace) I am probably going to give up and return my A7 to the retailer before my 30 days are up. Thank you to Dexter and everyone else who posted such informative and useful instructions on the A7 forum. I am perplexed as to why I was not successful in accomplishing the update and modification. I really do like the A7 and hate to return it, but whats the sense of owning a Android device if you can't utilize the Marketplace. Duh! I would even be willing to pay a nominal fee to a honest, tech-savvy individual to modify/update my A7 for me. Thanks again everyone, looks like I'll be shopping for a tablet thats a little more user-friendly.
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email me at [email protected] and I will do what I can to help.
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Here are some quick things to know/try that work for me -
1. SD card must be formatted as FAT format, FAT32 is fine
2. Mod file is named update.zip in sd card, do not put it in any folder in the SD card
3. When you are powered down, if you hold the power button in for about 15 seconds and then release and then hold in again for a few seconds you will see, hold in for another 5 seconds to go to boot menu, immediately hold in for another 5 seconds and then release, you should see a android character, tap on home icon on right and it should go into a boot menu
4. Use the buttons on the tablet (home, etc on the right) to page down and up the list of selections. Top 2 buttons on the right are up and down. Second to bottom icon is select.
5. Scroll to "apply sdcard:update.zip"
6. Select that option (second to bottom icon on right of screen)
it should now apply the update.zip on your sd card. It could take a while.
If there are any errors then the update.zip file may be corrupted. All updates are over 90MB in size except for the patch that Dexter sent recently which is around 3MB.
Let us know if this works.
Thanks for the responses
I have done several times the instructions some of you have responded back with and watched several posts on YouTube also. Yes my card is formatted to Fat32 and yes I used a capital U on Update.zip. I have followed the instructions to a "t" for installing DexMod and Elocity's own instructions on their website in regards to the 2/24/11 update. My A7 simply would not recognize and open the SD card file and would then abort the program. I'm simply at a point where how much more of my time do I want to spend spinning my wheels on the A7 tablet in order to have access to the Android Marketplace. Thanks again everyone.
Please see my response at bottom.
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sorry to hear that. I suspect your update.zip file is probably not being recognized as a zip file. mine is named update.zip, no uppercase anything. Sometimes there can be a hidden extension of another .zip so the system sees it as update.zip.zip
I downloaded the mod and renamed mine on my pc and then copied it directly to the microsd card. Sorry to hear about the time its taken you so far. As I said earlier I would be happy to work with you if you wish.
just to clarify, you can't really install the latest feb 24 update from elocity AND dexters elocitymod rom. Unless, that is, you take the mods that dexter has done and apply them to the latest elocity update and regression test it, debug it, etc... elocity did a fair job of putting out a cheap android tablet. they made some sacrifices on the hardware side - no multitouch and no hi res screen, but for the price, it's hard to beat. and dexter's mod makes the a7 infinitely more useful. have you tried other microsd cards? you can get cheap 2gb and 4gb ones at target or bestbuy. if those don't work, you can just return them. lots of people have been using dexter's elocitymod successfully. without it, i probably would have returned the a7 also. if you're looking for something a bit more polished, get ready to spend a bit more. samsung galaxy tab goes for about $600-$800 motorola xoom about the same price as well.
Did you check your sd card for bad sectors or tried a different sd card? Just curious.
Same problem adding Dexter Mod
I've just got the A7 and I'm following the threads about the Dexter Mod. I'm a little confused about 1- what to name the file...some say with a capital U and some not...2- with or without .zip...again same thing 3- can you use the 1.2 Mod after Elocity's latest firware update...the reason I ask this is because the link for 1.3 is down and I do have 1.2 on my pc for some reason.
On my sdcard it doesn't have a directory "ROOT" do i just copy it to the open card. So may questions...sorry about that, been at it for 3 hours and no success. Have to laugh tho....
BTW I have a file named LOST.DIR on the sdcard
file name
The file when you download it is already in zip form. All you need to do is rename it to ( update ).
Dexter Mod 1.3
Thank you. Just installed on 1 of my A7's but the 1.3 Mod...Was able to download it this morning, the site is back up again.
Now to do the bluetooth fix...life is all go...lol
Ok, lets clear this up once and for all...
For everyone that is getting confused about update.zip, Update.zip, Update.zip.zip, and whatever other additional permutations of combinations that people have been able to come up with.
The answer: although some people have reported success with a lower case "u", the best way is to simply follow the directions layed out for you and name it "Update.zip"
Here's the simple truth of the matter, the file you download is <Dexter's_webspace>/ElocityModv13.zip ... or if you are going after eLocity's updates it would be
<elocity's_webspace>/update.zip
Notice that both files have ".zip" at the end. No question about it, no chance that this is not true, no chance that as I actually saw someone post on here "elocity never named it .zip".
Now, here's where people have the opportunity to get confused and do something wrong...
PC Users:
A default out of the box Windows installation is set to HIDE file extensions of known file types (zip files included). So, when you look at your download it will appear to be just "ElocityModv13" or just "Update" even though the file extension (.zip) is actually there. So when you try to rename it to "Update.zip" you are changing only the information BEFORE the file extension, thereby making it "Update.zip.zip"... This is no one else's fault. Please don't blame eLocity, please don't blame Dexter, please don't blame the Android OS itself.
The Solution!:
Open Windows Explorer, go to the "Tools" drop down menu, go to "Folder Options", click on the "View" tab on the window that just popped up, uncheck the "Hide extensions for known file types" checkbox, click "OK", profit.
MAC Users:
I am guessing that this applies to most of the "What do I do with all these folders from the zip file" type of posts. The most probable issue here is that Mac's have a rather annoying habit of unzipping zip files as soon as it finishes downloading them, leaving you with just a folder (in this case either named "ElocityModv13" or "update" with no file extension (its a folder).
Mac Solution:
To keep Safari from automatically unzipping your files, the fix is easy.
Open Safari, open Safari's preferences, Click on the "General" tab, uncheck the "open safe files" box, close preferences. Now download either the mod or the stock update again, and you'll have the actual zip file instead of just a folder with the contents of the original file.
Hopefully this helps a lot of people figure this out.
Now...
My Disclaimer:
I already am prepared for the inevitable "stop being rude", "somebody call me a wahmublance", "I'm new to this" type of response that I seem to get more often then not on here. So, before any of that happens let me explain my standpoint.
Anyone trying to go down this route and put a custom rom on their device is attempting to modify it. This SHOULD require at very least a working knowledge of the device or software you are trying to modify. I am not saying everyone here should be on Dexter's level, but at least a little computer know how would be very beneficial. Next, before just diving in to changing things on this little chunk of technology that you just spent a few hundred on, read. Simple as that, educate yourself on the toy you just bough. Creating many many duplicates of threads asking the same extremely basic questions does not help anyone. It clutters up the forums, makes the people that actually have the answers so sick of saying the same thing over and over that they just don't answer any more, makes it harder to navigate the actual different topics, and makes it harder for everyone else to find the answers they are looking for. There should be no "which one of the 15 bluetooth not working threads was that post in?"
I apologize for my complete lack of patience with people that can not search for information and need to be spoon fed. But 99% of the time the question has already been asked and answered. And lets be serious here, the A7 forum only has FOUR SECTIONS, really not a lot of reading. And in the other cases where it is a user error like not knowing how to rename a file or yesterday's hilarious "My SD card doesn't have a folder called ROOT", you really need to ask yourself if this is really something you are up to. If you lack the basic knowledge to perform the easy steps of the process, is it really worth it to risk creating a $300 paperweight to say "look at the cool thing I did" to your friends?
If something I said here seems like it was taken from your post/story, don't take it personal, it was only listed as an example.
I'm sorry I opened such a can of worms on this subject for some "TECHNOLOGICALLY-ADVANCED" individuals who seem to have nothing better to do but respond with condescending remarks on this forum. FYI: I recently purchased a new Samsung Galaxy tablet on eBay for $360.00, hence my A7 has been shipped back to the retailer for a refund. I still think the A7 is a great device, I simply do not have the time to repeatedly attempt to update it so I can have access to the Android Marketplace, nor the patience to tolerate the attitude of certain posters to this forum. I thought the purpose for this forum was to help each other out on issues, not to repeatedly "Beat Dead Horses" which some individuals tend to be doing. Thanks again everyone and GOOD LUCK!
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I'm sorry I opened such a can of worms on this subject for some "TECHNOLOGICALLY-ADVANCED" individuals who seem to have nothing better to do but respond with condescending remarks on this forum. FYI: I recently purchased a new Samsung Galaxy tablet on eBay for $360.00, hence my A7 has been shipped back to the retailer for a refund. I still think the A7 is a great device, I simply do not have the time to repeatedly attempt to update it so I can have access to the Android Marketplace, nor the patience to tolerate the attitude of certain posters to this forum. I thought the purpose for this forum was to help each other out on issues, not to repeatedly "Beat Dead Horses" which some individuals tend to be doing. Thanks again everyone and GOOD LUCK!
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You didn't open a can of worms, it was just a coincidence that the misinforming post that sent the fingers of fury flying happened to be on your thread. and trust me, I have plenty of better things to do, this is just filler.
Seems like you got a hell of a good deal on the G Tab, Congrats.
And yes, the point of a forum is to help other people, which I do. By correcting bad advice, and trying to get people to ask for and give help in a more collaborative way instead of the same questions being asked over and over again. I'm sorry if you find my presence on the internet grating, just be glad that you haven't had to endure my vocabulary in person (apparently it is pretty similar to that of a drunken sailor with tourette's syndrome with the same measure of sarcasm that I treat the net to)
Back at you on the good luck. Expecting a review on the g tab, pro's and con's vs the A7 hopefully
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LOL, you guys are just hilarious
Hi, thank you very much bestialbud , for your contribution now enjoy factory firmware and all functions work perfectly in A7. and also I have the Market.
thanks for the positive confirmation.
i'll try and throw out some more stuff for you the a7 users this weekend to accompany the gapps fix; some build prop improvements to get you access to more apps.
i'll try and throw out some more stuff for the rom chefs to kick up the activity in rom and mod development for the a7; map out all the files, permissions and uid/gid's, and then MAYBE if i have the time this weekend go experimental and package the factory rom into what i consider a normal update zip; zipped up rom instead of a system image w/ a script that sets all the roms permissions, symbolic links and busybox install. once its in a more manageable format like that you'll get more would be chef's and themer's contributing.
been thinkin' about it all week, i just don't have a tablet of my own (i'm the misses android fixit tech), so my works restricted to weekend mornings.
would be great, that within your improvements we have an ad-hoc connection to work properly.
the market does not have all the permissions, but wiht the permissions you indicate the fix the problem.
I'm anxious to see your improvements. Thanks again.
i'm sorry my english.
genialor; yeah, i never had any success w the adhoc wifi fixes myself. adhoc limitations are pretty common for mobile devices, not just android. i actually picked up a dsl connection due to this limitation, quite reluctantly i might add.
there is some 25 other similar tegra tablets. a portable solution could still present itself. i wouldnt count on any manufacturer adding adhoc connectity if they didnt provide it in the initial release.
i can say the usual passion finger, or release keys added to the stock one didnt make any difference. but im only using skyfire for an app name to search.
if folks could list other apps they dont see, it may help to make some gradual steps.
otherwise as far as savey folks looking at direct manipulation; the fingerprint that the market app reads after being copied from build prop is stored in /data/data/com.android.vending along w the characteristics your device supports. im a compare the tabs to my phone for fun to see if i can manipulate the data, because fingerprint replacement, w this gapps package in the rom isnt working. if that works, i can post instructions for the savvy, and MAYBE dig up some way to creatively automate adding those details.
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Thanks buddy install UPDATE04-16 market + google apps and it works perfectly.
Bestialbud excellent job. Full Market yes, yes, yes ...
What is the latest market app, on Dexter mod I am running 2.3.6..
if folks could list other apps they dont see, it may help to make some gradual steps.
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Hey, Tested your update and it seems to work fine except for some game apps. These aren't crucial but may indicate some permission issues: "crazy snowboards" seems to have a orientation problem.( only work in portrait mode.) "mau mau"intermittent FC.
*** note these apps worked in Dexter's latest mode ***
Otherwise Good Job!!
I find the installation notes for gapps mod in original thread extremely confusing.
I just installed official firmware (BTW the installation notes on official site were crystal clear). What should I do now?
A video of the entire process would be great.
P.S: NP, I just did not understand that to navigate between recovery menu items I must use "back" button.
Looks like gapps works now
sorry, i didnt provide step by step details for recovery use. i wont update that information either, as recovery is likely to change soon w lightly different instructions..
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Some market applications can't see sdcard...
Looks like it is mounted as /storage/sdcard-disk0 while these apps expect it to be at /sdcard. Also /sdcard is mounted somewhere on internal memory, same place as /storage actually . Is there any way to change it?
Some market applications can't see sdcard...
Looks like it is mounted as /storage/sdcard-disk0 while these apps expect it to be at /sdcard. Also /sdcard is mounted somewhere on internal memory, same place as /storage actually . Is there any way to change it?
Ummm, there's so much information on this...please do a search in these threads on SD card and you will understand why no one wants to answer that question............
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Some market applications can't see sdcard...
Ummm, there's so much information on this...please do a search in these threads on SD card and you will understand why no one wants to answer that question............
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I did search and could not find any comprehensible information.
I didn't say it would be comprehensible.
The external sd card is mounted as /storage/sdcard-disk0. The A7 can read from it but not write apps to it, or at least the market doesn't and I don't think you can run apps from it, just install from it. There is an internal sd card 4GB total, but with 1+GB available for apps, and we can also add our own sd card (up to 32GB) stuffed with our music, videos, jpgs, documents, etc....that way we can access them through gallery and media players, etc, without having to download a bunch of junk onto our internal memory.
1GB is a huge amount of internal space for the kind of apps that I suspect most of us are using. Sorry if I'm not clear, but in truth this topic has been done to death.
Maybe our intrepid developers can find a way to rewrite the way this thing works now that they have the kernel source but maybe not.
there are ways and roms that may change the sdcard mount location. the apps may com thru the google market, but their ability to run is another function of the rom.
this is only a google apps addon.
you'll have to wait a lil bit longer til you see a rom from me. i'm interested in recovery and themeing for this device right now..
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muxecoid said:
Some market applications can't see sdcard...
Looks like it is mounted as /storage/sdcard-disk0 while these apps expect it to be at /sdcard. Also /sdcard is mounted somewhere on internal memory, same place as /storage actually . Is there any way to change it?
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This is an on going problem with the sd card and the way its mounted by elocity's implementation of Android 2.2. To male a long story short, Elocity's android version is 2.2 compatible not a true implementation of Android 2.2. As far as I know no one has been able to work around this problem. Dexter tried starting with mod 1.3 but people started having problems with sd and usb detection. I'm waiting for Stream Tv to finally decide to fix this problem.
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This is an on going problem with the sd card and the way its mounted by elocity's implementation of Android 2.2. To male a long story short, Elocity's android version is 2.2 compatible not a true implementation of Android 2.2. As far as I know no one has been able to work around this problem. Dexter tried starting with mod 1.3 but people started having problems with sd and usb detection. I'm waiting for Stream Tv to finally decide to fix this problem.
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Drugs are bad mm'kay
Why on earth do people feel the need to disseminate misinformation on here on such a regular basis.
Go back and re-read Dexter's posts on the subject. There is a reason, a real reason, not made up like "its not true android 2.2". This is not a phone, it has larger internal storage and thus relies less on the external media. To have it the way you people want it (like a monstrous phone) the external storage would end up being the default, making it difficult to use the internal storage, and also REQUIRING that you have a decent size microSD just to make the tablet usable.
BTW, I am still laughing that I am apparently using an Android knock off lolololol
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Drugs are bad mm'kay
Why on earth do people feel the need to disseminate misinformation on here on such a regular basis.
Go back and re-read Dexter's posts on the subject. There is a reason, a real reason, not made up like "its not true android 2.2".
This is not a phone, it has larger internal storage and thus relies less on the external media. To have it the way you people want it (like a monstrous phone) the external storage would end up being the default, making it difficult to use the internal storage, and also REQUIRING that you have a decent size microSD just to make the tablet usable.
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BTW, I am still laughing that I am apparently using an Android knock off lolololol
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I don't understand your response. I read Dexter's post on the subject. You need to re-read it. OS's in general have standards. If I run a windows, linux or mac system to name a few, you expect your hardware and software to run a certain way. For example, when you to read, write or print a file, any software you run for that OS should allow you to this on any computer that you run that particular OS on the same way. This isn't rocket science for a typical consumer. If you want to prove to me that I don't know what I'm talking about or worse yet that I
"disseminate misinformation on here on such a regular basis
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. , please show specifically where what I said concerning Android 2.2 is wrong other then that you may have read dexter's post.
This is not a phone, it has larger internal storage and thus relies less on the external media. To have it the way you people want it (like a monstrous phone) the external storage would end up being the default, making it difficult to use the internal storage, and also REQUIRING that you have a decent size microSD just to make the tablet usable.
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. That's irrelevant. The standard is not about what you want but the way it was decided that the OS should work plus I believe this is or will be addressed in Android 3.0. This constitutes and opinion rather than a fact. I didn't spend $299 on your opinion which BTW I don't agree with.
I understand XDA is developers site and you guys are use to thinking outside the box, which is fine by me, but we aren't all here for the same reasons and when I purchase something and it says I'm getting a certain thing, as a consumer, I expect the minimum of what if I'm purchasing. The box days "Android 2.2" not "Android 2.2 compatible" or "Android 2.2 features" or "Android 2.2 clone."
The question is:
- What is "Android 2.2"
- How does this relate to software and hardware issues with the A7?
- Is there a work around?
- Is there a firmware update?
and If your replying to a post, do can you contribute anything helpeful because telling me to search all of Dexter's post because you think you say a post concerning this already without reference that to that post is a waste of everyone time.
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I don't understand your response. I read Dexter's post on the subject. You need to re-read it. OS's in general have standards. If I run a windows, linux or mac system to name a few, you expect your hardware and software to run a certain way. For example, when you to read, write or print a file, any software you run for that OS should allow you to this on any computer that you run that particular OS on the same way. This isn't rocket science for a typical consumer. If you want to prove to me that I don't know what I'm talking about or worse yet that I . , please show specifically where what I said concerning Android 2.2 is wrong other then that you may have read dexter's post. . That's irrelevant. The standard is not about what you want but the way it was decided that the OS should work plus I believe this is or will be addressed in Android 3.0. This constitutes and opinion rather than a fact. I didn't spend $299 on your opinion which BTW I don't agree with.
I understand XDA is developers site and you guys are use to thinking outside the box, which is fine by me, but we aren't all here for the same reasons and when I purchase something and it says I'm getting a certain thing, as a consumer, I expect the minimum of what if I'm purchasing. The box days "Android 2.2" not "Android 2.2 compatible" or "Android 2.2 features" or "Android 2.2 clone."
The question is:
- What is "Android 2.2"
- How does this relate to software and hardware issues with the A7?
- Is there a work around?
- Is there a firmware update?
and If your replying to a post, do can you contribute anything helpeful because telling me to search all of Dexter's post because you think you say a post concerning this already without reference that to that post is a waste of everyone time.
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Dexter_nlb said:
this is all a misunderstanding of how tablets are supposed to work, and caused by the fact that android 2.2 is made for a phone with external memory cards, and less to nothing of internal memory.
the current installation where apps are "moved" to internal storage is actually how vendors are trying to implement 2 types of storage.
comparing this to a mobile with just sdcard, and android 2.2 only supporting one storage type, the preferred storage becomes the "internal" and sdcard handling as you notice is now pointing to a location with the internal storage location.
the mountpoint at the internal storage location is planned based on the fact that users coming from an android based mobile knows alot about where to find data, which is in the storage location, so its put as mount at the storage so its easy to access, and not actually any bug at all.
so until better handling is presented (hopefully 3.0) people will continue to think that the handling is wrong or something is not wright here, but it is correct.
your internal storage of "just" 1.5GB is the preferred location, as tablets are not meant to have sdcards as preferred storage, if you chose not to put a sdcard into the tablet. so the choice was easy, use internal storage for android so ppl didnt need to buy additional cards.
but the lack of storage internally is a vendor decision, not a bug or not "the android way" a problem in any way..
imagine, those users without any sdcard, being unable to use the feature of android to a storage, and needed to use data storage for all files, that would look strange, if you didnt have the option available..
it could have been planned differently but vendors (all of the tegra2 vendors) has chosen this path, which could have been done differently but its all relate to apps and how they expect your device to work..
a long explanation, but remember 2.2 is not made for tablets, it made for small devices with external memory cards, which is long overdue and is followed up with the new android 3.0 which hopefully solves your problem.
conclusion,
Nvidia could have chosen a different way of using android, but they're still rather new to the platform and their design is not without problems yet (honeycomb will show that too), so if they used real planning and organized memory and sdcard handling like 2.2 was made for, you would have no problems at all. Remember Nvidia designed it this way, and they are the reason you have problems..Lack of knowledge of design and functionality, like BMW trying to make graphics card for a pc, coming from designing cars, their work would not be in a class like nvidia graphics, but probably ok..but far from good..
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There was no button to make the important text blink and slap you in the face at the same time, so I hope bold and red will suffice.
Don't get pissy with me because you are putting out misinformation and got called on it. There are people who come on here to learn and someone might have actually believed your BS about "Android 2.2 compatible" or "Android 2.2 features" or "Android 2.2 clone."
I have contributed. You on the other hand have not. Spreading crap like this is merely tantamount to telling people the sky is purple.
Edit: by the way, the "on a regular basis" part was not directed at you or any other individual person. I was pointing out how often this happens, not keeping score of who has done it the most.
Another Edit: Of course it will be addressed in Android 3.0 ... 3.0 IS FOR TABLETS!
Yet Another Edit: No, you are right, you didn't spend $299 on my opinion. You spent $299 on a bottom of the line Android 2.2 tablet hoping for the best, just like the rest of us... And since you seem so hung up on what the box said, did your box say "Powered by Android 2.2" or did it say "Powered by some guy named Rob's opinion"? I am willing to bet it said the first. However if you decide that you are willing to pay for my "opinion", there happens to be a donate button right under my name on the left. Thanks for playing.
so, yeah. mount locations a rom issue.
'piss' somewhere else?
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Okay--this might be a stupid question, but am I supposed to install this and Dexter's mod over the firmware?
If so, should I do them in a particular order?
Thanks for all that you guys do!
Wow, talk about confusing, the A7 is a whole new world to me.
I've had computers for years, currently I have two running XP & 7, plus I have two laptops running XP & 7. I understand a lot when it comes to computers, but the A7 is so different.
I've downloaded & printed the User Manual and I have read it several times. I've read numerous posts on this forum and now I'm confused. I feel so dumb. Too many words that I don't understand. I want to learn everything I can about running every aspect of this tablet, but it's like just as I learn one thing, the next time it doesn't work that way.
I need more reading material. Whether it be links to posts, books to read, anything to help me understand what I am doing. I make notes of things I have read so that I will remember what to do next time. Post something to help me, PM me or even email me.
I will be so greatfull for any help given.
Thank you
The user manual you can download on elocity's site is useless because there is a lot of things that were never edited out to match the actual release version of the tablet.
As far as computer knowledge and relating it to the a7 or android in general, windows knowledge will not get you very far. A good working knowledge of Unix/Linux will give you a much better idea of what's going on behind the scenes since android is based on Linux (loosely, in my opinion) but still functions very similarly.
If you have any programming or web design experience, I would recommend downloading the android sdk and do some playing around with simple programs. Also with the sdk you can make a virtual android device to monkey around with without fear of messing up your new $300 toy I use eclipse as my development environment in Linux, not sure what a good windows alternative would be, but the structure of an android app is pretty easy to follow. There are example programs and source available on the android developer site developer.android.com if I remember correctly (same place to get the sdk). And the language itself tends to be pretty similar to writing a Java app.
I've probably missed the mark completely on the information you were trying to find, but if you are anything like me, you'll find hours (years if it gets you going down the Linux/Unix path lol) of obsession with just this info.
Hopefully it gets you on the opensource band wagon (the reason I love Linux/Android)
Wow...where to start? Well, you got that you turn it on and slide the lock to the dot to unlock. Then you are in a "home page". There are 5 of them. there are dots at the top of the screen showing which home page ur on. Usually the center one. Touch the screen and slide one way or the other to move the home pages.
If you touch the square whitish pad at the right of the screen with a bunch of darker squares in it, it takes you to your apps - the programs that do what you want.
If you touch an app it runs. Touch the return arrow just to the right of the screen to close the app and go back. It always takes u back.
You have to "root" the machine to get the good apps. Usually with Dexters mod. This is easy. You download the file, rename it to upgrade.zip, place it on a micro SD card, and go to settings/About Device/System Updates/ then touch update device.
The home button at the right side of the screen always takes you to the center home page. - It DOES NOT close the app you have open at the moment.
you should get an app closer to close all of the un-closed apps for you.
Oh yea, android market place is the app you want to add all of the apps you want.
You get it with Dexters Mod (4.1 right now)
and there is tons more...............
Based on Linux ... now I understand why this is confusing to me. I've never worked with it before, but I understand from fellow users, they like it better than Windows OS.
I've never done any programming or web design, but maybe it's not too late to learn something new.
I thank both of you for your info and appreciate everything you have said.
mrpete2u I really appreciated the details of your instructions. I know I'm a dummy at this, and I'm sure there are more of you guys out there to help.
Thanks
mrpete2u said:
You have to "root" the machine to get the good apps. Usually with Dexters mod. This is easy. You download the file, rename it to upgrade.zip, place it on a micro SD card, and go to settings/About Device/System Updates/ then touch update device.
you should get an app closer to close all of the un-closed apps for you.
Oh yea, android market place is the app you want to add all of the apps you want.
You get it with Dexters Mod (4.1 right now)
and there is tons more...............
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Another newbie jumping in....and trying to figure this out. To "root" the machine do I need to update the firmware from the elocity site or can I jump to Dexters right away. If so, where do I find that?
Thanks for your advice.
your a7 is rooted already with dexters mod or elocity firmware.
My Kernel version is 2.6.32.9-svn2514
[email protected]#1
And Build # PBJ8000.2.0124
And ECv is 0.14
Would you mind explaining what these numbers mean, please?
Thank you
koalaw said:
My Kernel version is 2.6.32.9-svn2514
[email protected]#1
And Build # PBJ8000.2.0124
And ECv is 0.14
Would you mind explaining what these numbers mean, please?
Thank you
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You are one version in the rear, version now is 2.0133, most member her are running Dexter Mod 1.41 include myself an entirely different beast, stock Roman won't let me load Asphalt5 game so Dexter it is...A7 come from factor rooted Don't think any other tablet come out already root...
Your saying I need to upgrade one version
and that my A7 is already rooted??
Thank you for the answers.
koalaw said:
Your saying I need to upgrade one version
and that my A7 is already rooted??
Thank you for the answers.
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look here for Dexter mod forget about the stock rom ....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=890042
I have now updated to 2.0.0133
Now I need to figure out how to get the market icon so I can start looking for more apps & games. Tried downloading earlier and it keeps telling me that I have downloaded to my phone? I don't have a fancy phone to download to.
Here I am again confused, but what's new about that!!
There is a thread in the device section on adding market to stock rom.
Or you could just run elocitymod by Dexter.
I did run the elocity mod 1.41 and my firmware was updated to 2.0.0133
When I am on market.android's site, they want my phone number so they can download the app to my phone.
I'm trying to download the app to my tablet.
Am I confused or what
Thanks for answering me.
koalaw said:
I did run the elocity mod 1.41 and my firmware was updated to 2.0.0133
When I am on market.android's site, they want my phone number so they can download the app to my phone.
I'm trying to download the app to my tablet.
Am I confused or what
Thanks for answering me.
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Yes, yes you are lol
For all intents and purposes (as far as Google is concerned at least) your tablet is a phone.
Install market enabler on the a7 and fake a cell provider. The a7 should show up on the Google market website after that.
You didn't install dextermod and then apply eLocity update over it did you? Just want to be sure.
Your laughing at me .... that's ok ... right now I'm so new at this, I really don't care, in fact I am laughing at myself for being so dumb.
I went to dexter's site and downloaded a file called elocitymod1.41 and renamed it to update.zip and that is what I installed.
OK I will install market enabler
Thank you again for helping this dummy .... LOL
From the perceived tone of the post prior to my last one, I thought you were already at the laughing stage. I thought I was just laughing along, sorry for the mix up.
Sounds like you are doing everything right. I just wanted to make sure that we were dealing with a clean install of elocitymod, and not something mixed together by trying to ally another update on top of it.
Needless to say ... I am still confused.
Installed the market enabler, but I am not getting anywhere.
Why I try to install an app I get a message telling me there is no phone attached to this account and they want me to log in with another account. When I try creating a new account, there is no place to give a phone number and I get all those stupid messages again.
Just wondering if I am too dumb, because you all make this seem so easy, that maybe I should give up and figure out other ways to get apps and leave the android market site alone???
Sorry if I have frustration in my voice, but I guess I thought this would be easier.
koalaw said:
Needless to say ... I am still confused.
Installed the market enabler, but I am not getting anywhere.
Why I try to install an app I get a message telling me there is no phone attached to this account and they want me to log in with another account. When I try creating a new account, there is no place to give a phone number and I get all those stupid messages again.
Just wondering if I am too dumb, because you all make this seem so easy, that maybe I should give up and figure out other ways to get apps and leave the android market site alone???
Sorry if I have frustration in my voice, but I guess I thought this would be easier.
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Why not just use market from the tablet? I wouldn't stress so much about trying to get it to work and remotely install from the web site.
Each time I go to the site, I am on my tablet. Mainly because it has a direct install button and not a download, so I want to be on the tablet to install on it.
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Each time I go to the site, I am on my tablet. Mainly because it has a direct install button and not a download, so I want to be on the tablet to install on it.
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So are you hitting the Market icon (opening the Market app) or are you trying to open http://market.android.com/ in the web browser?
Is ubuntu possible on our u8800?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xN4c61ETCWg maybe, try it
Without having seen the youtube vid that d3xtr0 linked, I'll post this link:
http://androlinux.com/android-ubuntu-development/how-to-install-ubuntu-on-android/
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Without having seen the youtube vid that d3xtr0 linked, I'll post this link:
http://androlinux.com/android-ubuntu-development/how-to-install-ubuntu-on-android/
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lit's the same source
It will probably work if this device supports "loop devices" whatever that is? anyone know or tried it succsessfully?
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It will probably work if this device supports "loop devices" whatever that is? anyone know or tried it succsessfully?
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I had no time to try it, maybe later in the week.
skifyr123 said:
It will probably work if this device supports "loop devices" whatever that is? anyone know or tried it succsessfully?
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It supports loop device. I just tried to mount a loop device with a loop image and it worked.
EDIT: With flibblesan's r5 kernel but it should be supported by stock kernel anyway
You are aware that ubuntu has no proper support for touchscreens; even if it runs you won't gain anything by doing that. When I installed a linux a few months ago on another device it worked, then I was fascinated about one minute and then I decided that there is no use for it an deleted it eventually.
I just do not understand why it is so important to get a desktop-os running on a smartphone. Battery drains fast, no support for the radio etc.
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You are aware that ubuntu has no proper support for touchscreens; even if it runs you won't gain anything by doing that. When I installed a linux a few months ago on another device it worked, then I was fascinated about one minute and then I decided that there is no use for it an deleted it eventually.
I just do not understand why it is so important to get a desktop-os running on a smartphone. Battery drains fast, no support for the radio etc.
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Its not important, but funny and cool if it works (on this device). How did you do it?
Until recently I still had my old samsung-omnia-winmo6.5-phone. There was an app for linux available; you just had to install an imagefile to the sd-card. The fun did last for a minute and then I realized I cannot do anything with this small screen and that it was pretty much useless.
I think that a lot of people here will just read the topic and think "omg this is amazing, now I can have my desktop-os on the phone, great" and later they realize how much time they just wasted.
If it really is fun for you guys, I won't try and stop you
How about using linux programs? i think that it may be quite useful sometimes... Put honestly... it is just for funright now... but it may be helpful if we could dual boot.... maybe in the future
I got this working, it isn't that slow as you could imagine, firefox takes around 30 sec to start and load the front page. That said, the keyboard works but is way off and impossible to use (I push "d" and "f" shows up and so on).
if anyone understand this the keyboard will be fixed:
In VNC’s xstartup file: $HOME/.vnc/xstartup
You have to add the line export XKL_XMODMAP_DISABLE=1 before
/etc/X11/Xsession or gnome-session (in case you use GNOME)
Screenshot actually taken with an ubuntu tool, I have set the resolution to 1200*800 in the virtual enviriment.
Here is a video with Huawei Ideos X5 running Ubuntu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SaoneDtNqA&feature=BFp&list=WL01C152CD7D31A7C8&index=1
Will try this later tonight and let you guys know if it works. Just have to work first >.<
The significance of linux running is to have a backup operating system to use on the phone if the Oracle / Google dispute over Java begins to really disrupt the market.
Think also freedombox.org, your own personal, secure and anonymous cloud system as a refuge if a dictatorship emerges or particularly nasty rise of corporatism occurs.
At heart, our U8800's can easily be linux box server with up to 32Gb of onboard storage with wi-fi AND gsm network connections. Being battery operated, if the thought police decend upon your community, you could take it to another place, unknown to the nasty guys, and re-establish mesh network connection to get reports of civil rights abuses out to the rest of the world.
Reason enough to have the capability to run Ubuntu Server edition (or any other Linux Server flavour)?
If you're interested to see what's already possible, even within Android (Linux will deliver more power), install "File Expert" from the market to get your very own web file server, right there in your phone.
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XphX said:
Until recently I still had my old samsung-omnia-winmo6.5-phone. There was an app for linux available; you just had to install an imagefile to the sd-card. The fun did last for a minute and then I realized I cannot do anything with this small screen and that it was pretty much useless.
I think that a lot of people here will just read the topic and think "omg this is amazing, now I can have my desktop-os on the phone, great" and later they realize how much time they just wasted.
If it really is fun for you guys, I won't try and stop you
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You didn't Found a better ubuntu boot-file, x5 faster, keyboard works, WIFI, pre-installed with many programs ( Open Office for work.. etc) easy to use with touch screen. here is how it works: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUG9aC_tH5s
And the files/instructions: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=962023
Edit of my previous post (138 views 0 replies) to be more clear and less ramble. Since my previous post version I have read through numerous posts and still don't get what exact files to use and how to use them since there isn't just any one direct way and things to use.
Problem:
Total noob to any of this terminology etc
Goods and Goals:
I have two nook tabs I just received with 1.4.3. I would like to keep the stock OS intact on the nooks while using a 32GB SD card for triple booting to OSX, and Android. Really? Really? I was just looking at the post pictures of your home screen threads. Can a windows tablet edition go on nook also? That is the first I've noticed anything of that even looking through tons of threads in the last several hours.
Background:
All the terminology here is overwhelming and beyond my knowledge. Needless to say I understand jack squat. I've searched for posts for complete noobs such as myself and nothing is direct and broken down step for step on what exactly to use and do. Its all technical and mentions multiple different things to use and do.
Ok While digging more I've ran into several threads that are self explanatory yet they lead to old information and files that don't exist or are just that old.
Any help here would be greatly appreciated.
Finally through reading something that wasn't here on the forums from a member that understands much of the information is over people who are new to this and wrote up understandable information. (at least for where I'm at in the process) I think I have to go to frys and pick up an external card reader. The built in one on my HP obviously is one of the crappy ones that wont properly write to the microsd card. I had a card with space since it was brand new. Wrote the img file with the winwrite thing now it shows as an unformated sd card so I can't copy over anything to it as described in the following thread:
English instructions for Dummys:good:
So I won't know anything else until about 8:30am tomorrow when I get back from Frys.
If anyone cares to chime in though with some real idiot proof information feel free.
Well hooked up my phone with the sd card and did my thing with it. Same as using the reader in the laptop. So another hour and I can head to Frys.........
1) You mention Nook Tab. This is the Nook Color forum. Are you sure you have the right forum? They are different devices.
2) No Windows cannot be ran on here. However, you can use some sort of RDP application to remote into a windows machine and use from there.
3) OSX cannot be ran on this device. Unless I've completely missed someones project on the forums.
4) Leapinlar has a good reference post here for all things Nook Color.
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1) You mention Nook Tab. This is the Nook Color forum. Are you sure you have the right forum? They are different devices.
2) No Windows cannot be ran on here. However, you can use some sort of RDP application to remote into a windows machine and use from there.
3) OSX cannot be ran on this device. Unless I've completely missed someones project on the forums.
4) Leapinlar has a good reference post here for all things Nook Color.
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I thought the nook color and nook tabs were the same setup when it comes to running different os on them. You mean to tell me everything I have been reading is null. Arg. lol:fingers-crossed:
This is the post in Development I was referencing.
Maybe I completely missunderstood the post and that's why I had so many views with no replies because everyone here was like WHAT? OSX on my nook.....
Wow talk about a complete different ball game with the tablet. Right off the bat I found basically the idiots guide to SD booting CM7. So much easier then for the NC.
I don't know about easier. I think its just that the NC has been around longer so some links references may be dead/old.
That being said, they are completely different hardware. XDA has a forum group for the Nook Tablet. You should be able to find what you need there.
Edit: That link you posted is still for the Nook Color. If you have the Nook Tablet you need to use the forums here
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I thought the nook color and nook tabs were the same setup when it comes to running different os on them. You mean to tell me everything I have been reading is null. Arg. lol:fingers-crossed:
This is the post in Development I was referencing.
Maybe I completely missunderstood the post and that's why I had so many views with no replies because everyone here was like WHAT? OSX on my nook.....
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You are right. You completely misunderstood the post. They are not talking about running OSX on the nook. They are talking about running the script conversion tool on different devices, like Linux, DOS, OSX, and Windows. Nook can only run android based roms. The dual boot SD they are referencing runs CM7 and CM9 and leaves stock on emmc. All of those are android based roms.
And putting new roms on the Nook Color is much easier than putting them on the Nook Tablet. The Nook Color is completely open and capable of new roms. The Nook Tablet has a locked bootloader and a lot of fancy tricks must be done to get another rom to load at all.
And the exact steps to get triple boot with stock on emmc and two android roms on SD is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21458075
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I don't know about easier. I think its just that the NC has been around longer so some links references may be dead/old.
That being said, they are completely different hardware. XDA has a forum group for the Nook Tablet. You should be able to find what you need there.
Edit: That link you posted is still for the Nook Color. If you have the Nook Tablet you need to use the forums here
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Yea got all that now that I found out there is a difference. It was a s-ton easier the this gapps this and that etc. It was use the windows writer software I already had. Plop in the sd card into my hp laptop reader download one file unzip it and set the writer to go to town. DONE. I have CM7 on SD running just fine on my nook tab. Now to do it to another card for my fiancee's tablet. Hopefully her medical grade mouth stick comes in the mail today so she can actually use heat touch devices now. :good: Thanks for your help of slapping this noob in the face and kicking him to the right area of the forums. LOL