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Connections Question

Hi All,
New to my fantastic HD Touch so apologise if this is an obvious question..
If I have wifi enabled and data connection enabled, if i go onto the internet or, say, Youtube for aguments sake, will it use the Wifi connection as a priority over the data connection?
I ask because i want to keep my bills down without having to manually keep turning the data connection off (it connects every 5 mins to check for email)
Thanks
Loving this forum by the way!!

Depends on how the connection is set up. You can check your config by going to settings->connections->connections->advanced->select networks
There is then a drop down under the heading "Programs that automatically connect to the internet should connect using:". When I bought mine this was set to "Contract Internet" which basically means my vodafone data connection. I managed to run up a bill of over £50 before I spotted this (this was before I moved to a decent data package).
I changed this setting to "My Work Network" and it then used the wifi in preference to the cell connection. However, I think (although haven't scientifically tested) that if a program gets a cell connection before the wifi is activated then it may not automatically switch over if wifi is subsequently enabled.
BTW I tested all this using a $10 app called GPRS Traffic Monitor (which can monitor HSDPA as well as GPRS) to see if the traffic figures rose while browsing the net with wifi on and off. After changing my settings the data usage figures only went up if wifi was off.

At home, GPRS vs. Wi-Fi

Everyone,
Apologies, and I know this is a stupid question, but when at home with my htc tound pro, with WiFi on, and connected, why do I need the phone on too for the WiFi to work,...?
Also, when both are on and working, which system is used, i.e., the SIM card connection or the WiFi connection,...?
WiFi I pay a flat monthly rate for unlimited data, with the SIM card I am on a fixed amount of data transfer per month,...
Thanks for listening,
ek

Well..
You may be using an application that is not Wifi aware. So, it demands a GPRS/EDGE/3G connection. So - in effect - it's not actually using the Wifi connection.
If you can use the application with Wifi on, and phone off - it's Wifi aware. (Meaning it can utilize Wifi).
If you can't use the application without the phone being on - it's not Wifi aware or has not been configured to use the Wifi.
What application are you having issues with?

thanks for getting back to me,... WM Professional 6.1 and the Internet Explorer program when going on to the web,... i'm just wondering which systems does the phone use when both are functioning,... am i using the gprs from my SIM card or am I using the wi-fi in my home,...? and why do i need the phone turned on to use the wi-fi in my home,...?
thanks again,...
ek

you can see if it's using gprs on the icon for signal str if it's showing animations
it's using gprs
otherwise it's using wifi
if you set
settings-connections-connection-advanced-select network to my homenetwork
it dont use gprs

did you set the gprs settings to your gsm provider?
i would prefer wifi over gprs/3g anyday unless if your home internet is extremely slow ( <300kbps). the battery life would be almost equal so why not a faster connection?

Rudegar said:
you can see if it's using gprs on the icon for signal str if it's showing animations
it's using gprs
otherwise it's using wifi
if you set
settings-connections-connection-advanced-select network to my homenetwork
it dont use gprs
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I'd like to understand how WM decides which network to use when it has a choice e.g. HSDPA and WiFi. I've looked at the settings mentioned above and I currently have Internet using Contract Internet (HSDPA) and Work using WiFi as the WiFi networks I connect to are firewalled and privately addressed.
What settings should I have to ensure that when I have the choice of WiFi and HSDPA (at home) I use WiFi, and when out and about I use HSDPA?

Everytime an application wants to connect to the net:
- If wifi is connected and GSM isn't, it uses Wifi
- If wifi isn't connected, it tries connecting to GSM and will use that.
- If both are connected - we don't really know what happens.
When you're at home, check that GSM is not connected (no little E, G, 3G or H on the signal bar icon, disconnect it if connected), turn on wifi, wait until the arrows have stopped moving on the Wifi icons, and now you can launch the program that wants to connect to the net, and it will use wifi.
If at this point you get a popup about the phone connecting to GSM data again, then there's a connectivity problem on your Wifi and the device can't reach the net through it.
You might want to install Modaco Nodata, it allows you do disable automatic connection to GSM so that you can be sure it doesn't connect when you don't want it to.

mine never use gprs when it have wifi

I have a Touch HD and I can make things work fine by manually turning off the data connection then turning on WiFi in the comm manager when I'm at home or vice versa when I'm out and about.
I would have thought win mobile 6.1 would have been a mature enough OS to allow this to be configured automatically. This and Opera are my only outstanding issues with the HD.

Strange. I can easily shut my phone off, enable wifi & browse fine.

Wi-Fi as default

Is there a way of making the HD2 use wireless only when connected to a wireless connection and useing the Data connection only when wireless is unavailable?

ShaGGy_UK said:
Is there a way of making the HD2 use wireless only when connected to a wireless connection and useing the Data connection only when wireless is unavailable?
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start/settings/wireless controls/menu/connections..
then select..
you can download 'nodata' on here and use it to disable data connection when you are not using it..

I had to disable the proxy server for my 3G service provider and set the Broadcom 802.11 DHD Network Adaptor to connect to "The Internet". I did the same to my email accounts.
now it switches automaticly if wifi is on and if not it always uses 3G.
It will still connect to 3G when I wake up the phone but that's because some background apllications (like internet time and location) only seem to work over 3G. And probably for a reason.

Just gave it another try. Wifi takes over (and auto-disables) 3G connection fully. Twitter and Weather are updated fine using Wifi.

Just had a read about 'nodata' but that isn`t what i was looking for.
Ideally when in wi-fi range phone should use wi-fi.
when out of wi-fi range data connect connects
when you return to wi-fi it reconnects to wi-fi and drop data
i.e wifi connected = no data connection allowed
no wi-fi connection = data connection allowed

Basically, you need to leave the wifi on all the time for what you're asking, and that will destroy your battery life!
You can set it to not notify you of finding wifi connections in range, but it will constantly be looking for them (see All Settings, Sounds & Notifications). When it finds the one that you have told it it can use (you can only have 1 of them if you do it this way), it will start to use it. Once wifi has connected, your phone simply won't use the data connection.
It's that simple, but I'd highly recommend against it.

it's normal on mobile phones to only turn wifi on when you need it .. all phones with wifi I owned worked that way. And like johncmolyneux already said the reason is battery life and the constant searching for networks would lag your device with other operations.
I don't blame people that they keep confusing this device with a notebook as it almost is one, but then again a notebook only lasts a few hours with wifi on..

gabbs said:
start/settings/wireless controls/menu/connections..
then select..
you can download 'nodata' on here and use it to disable data connection when you are not using it..
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I belive this is what I need to do.
I travel between a few sites with wifi, what setting do I actualy need to change? you say "then select" but what? sorry for sounding dense.
or when your phone is in range and connects to wifi, does it automaticly use the wifi not the data conenction?

Janesy said:
I belive this is what I need to do.
I travel between a few sites with wifi, what setting do I actualy need to change? you say "then select" but what? sorry for sounding dense.
or when your phone is in range and connects to wifi, does it automaticly use the wifi not the data conenction?
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If you have wifi on, your phone won't use your data connection.

wifi instead of 3G gprs

When i'm home i've connected my HD2 to wifi. When i'm using programs who use a dataconnection (f.i. opera) how do i make sure these programs use wifi first if available and use 3G GPRS when there's no wifi connection available?
Thanks

Simple, make sure that data connection is off when you are at home, turn wifi on, login to your router at home and you can be sure that all apps are going to use wifi instead of data connection over 3G.
When your data connection over 3G is off and you start any app which requires (let me call this) `data transfer` - your data connection over 3G will turn itself on (3G has higher priority than Wifi and has been set-up as default).
From other point of view - when you turn on any data connection (over WiFi or 3G) and than lets say Opera, Opera will work under this particular connection. Example : You turned data connection over 3G on, than Opera, than Wifi. Turn 3G off and try to do any action with Opera (ex. link click, whatever which requires transfer of data) you will see data connection over 3G turning itself on again (even if there is Wifi still available).

Thanks for yor answer. Is it possible to change the priorities with a registry adjustment?

You only need MoDaCo NoData.
You can easily turn off every data connection with it. WiFi stays on tho.
I always use that tool when i dont want data conn to be on.

Auto turn off data connection

Hi All,
I have a HTC TD2
I am wondering if there is a way to set up auto turn off data connection after x mins of not using data connection? then when launch application that requires data connection, it will automatically connect?
my data connection is 3g.
Thanks!

Try this ap, I haven't used it as I have unlimited data but it should do what you want.
Original thread and developer are here.