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Hi guys,
I have got my G2 Touch (Hero) sat at home waiting for me and cannot wait to get back and play with it.
I was hoping you guys could help me with the following questions though:
1. How do I know if I should bother rooting it or not? If I root at a later date will I lose all of my other stuff on the phone?
2. How do I know if I have Donut on my phone and if I don't, should I root first or update to donut first?
3. Is there a list of "mush have apps" on the forum... I've spent all day reading articles on "must haves" but was hoping for "real life" feedback from you guys on what I must get.
Thanks
G
gk141054 said:
Hi guys,
I have got my G2 Touch (Hero) sat at home waiting for me and cannot wait to get back and play with it.
I was hoping you guys could help me with the following questions though:
1. How do I know if I should bother rooting it or not? If I root at a later date will I lose all of my other stuff on the phone?
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be prepared to wipe everything, as this is the solution for 95% of all problems (people not wiping before upgrade). don't you dare to ask for help before you wiped and reflashed afaik you can get root access without wiping, but i am pretty sure you are going to want a custom rom like modacos rom, and this almost inevitably means you have to wipe.
in q&a there is a thread for what you can do with root. it is not really complete, another try is to search for "root" in the market. most applications that need root access are found by this, so you can see what you could do if you where rooted.
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2. How do I know if I have Donut on my phone and if I don't, should I root first or update to donut first?
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easy one. there is no donut rom for hero (except for a custom one here on the forum, which does not _really_ work), so you don't have it on your phone. imho: don't bother updating to donut rom, unless you know what you are doing.
gk141054 said:
3. Is there a list of "mush have apps" on the forum... I've spent all day reading articles on "must haves" but was hoping for "real life" feedback from you guys on what I must get.
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what about the thread called "must have apps on your Hero" here in the themes&applications section? i don't think it will get any better than that... you need to do the reading yourself, you won't find a post that says "here is a zip with the ten apps you need to be happy" (well maybe you will find it, but i doubt that actually will be happy with it).
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Thanks
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you're welcome.
Hi kendong2, thanks for the response...
I have read about this update on tmobile's website...
http://support.t-mobile.co.uk/help-and-support/index?page=home&cat=SOFTWAREDOWNLOADS&tab=2
If this isn't the Donut update, is it just an updated version of the original rom?
gk141054 said:
If this isn't the Donut update, is it just an updated version of the original rom?
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It isn't Donut - it is just the T-Mobile version of the 2.73 ROM. Since your phone is very new, it probably already has it anyway, but to check go to Menu-> Settings -> About Phone, and check the build number. If it starts 2.73, you've already got the updated ROM.
If you get a 1.xx build number, my advice would be *not* to install the T-Mobile update as it will make it much harder for you to move to a custom ROM at a later date. You should download and install a generic 2.73 that has been pre-rooted.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
You should download and install a generic 2.73 that has been pre-rooted.
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or start with modaco right away
Hi again guys...
Checked my Touch last night and it is on 1.76
I'm a bit weary about rooting and installing generic / custom roms for fear of voiding the warranty and then owning a £500 brick...
Will updating to 2.73 from tmobile really make it harder to move to a custom rom later....?
gk141054 said:
Will updating to 2.73 from tmobile really make it harder to move to a custom rom later....?
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Put it this way -if you upgrade to 2.73 via the T-Mobile RUU, in order to move to a custom ROM in future you will have to "downgrade" to a generic HTC 2.73 ROM via a Goldcard (see here) which is much more complicated when you've already got a ROM on your phone which is "exploitable".
The other thing you should bear in mind is that when Android 2.0 is released for the Hero, it will likely first come out as a ROM for unbranded phones with operator branded versions following some time later. This is what happened when 2.73 was released, and T-Mobile in particular was quite tardy in getting its own version out.
So, if you want to go to Android 2.0 sooner rather than later, you should look at a non-T-Mobile version of 2.73 now.
Regards,
Dave
Thanks very much for the advice guys, going to do as you suggested.
Unfortunately I have more questions though:
1. to load the generic 2.73 I just "oneclickroot" (found the video on youtube to follow) and then download the theme and rename it "update.zip" put this onto your memory card, turn off your phone then press and hold the "home" button while pressing the power button.... keep the "home" button down until you get to the recovery screen then select flash the update.zip as you would a rom. Is that right or have I missed anything?
2. Having a Tmobile G2 Touch rather than a Hero won't make any difference to the rom that I choose will it?
3. Will putting a new rom on lose my contacts or widgets / scenes etc?
4. Can you recommend a nice rom to go for, like what you guys are using? Want it to look nice, be stable but fast
Cheers again for the help guys.
Answers!
1. Can't help here as I didn't use the one-click method.
2. No.
3. Yes. However, if you've synced your contacts to Google, you will get them back again once you set the phone up again.
4. Modaco - nuff said.
Regards,
Dave
For a newbie I can recommend 'the unlockr'-Google it- they have easy to follow vids for rooting and flashing roms for the hero. It's really easy and you won't brick your phone if you have half a brain cell.
hello everybody I created this topic because I flashed the official RUU Taiwanese hero on my htc mobile french and I will wish to test the new release of the Roma and the XDA Modaco on official 2.1 but I'm blocking I can not flash in zip recovery since the basic (signature failed) to No matter what. zip please help me I am too galley
I reckon the best place to look would be the CDMA forums to see if they have a solution. I'm sure they would have had guys just like you, ignoring all the warnings, except they might have done it a few wks ago. Worth checking...
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yes I have verified but there's no other like me in the CDMA hero ily'a no solutions
I do not speak very good English I use the translator I apologize for mistake I made in my sentence
At the moment, there's no going back. You locked yourself out of root
There is an exploit found in the evo 4g and cdma hero, you could try that. Download the app at www.unrevoked.com/m on your phone and run the app. Report back here, you've got nothing to loose!
I doubted but hey I asked you is do what XDA is the best in materials
I already try this method but its not working
oh well, stick with it, someone should find an exploit soon.
yeah I hope that the XDA will find a solution
You made a silly mistake and will now have to sit it out until a root procedure is found for this rom.
The official RUU wipes the recovery image, so you lose the ability to flash custom roms. You should always wait for a pre-rooted release, which Paul over at Modaco always releases.
Everyone makes mistakes, only problem is when you don't learn from them. I'm sure you'll never make this mistake again.
I just did a wipe and I try to reflash over the 2.73.405.5 but it did not work
hello
from what i have been reading build number should be R2BA026.
mine is still R2BA023, is this normal?
i have ran SEUS, and the "software update" on my phone and they all show its updated
Are you branded or unbranded
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Yes its normak if you have a brandet version. That means your carrier need to send out the firmware to seus. They maybe just eaitet fir the android 2.1 update. Instead of rolling 26 aswell
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i have a X10a through telstra, its also rooted.
wonder if i'll ever get updated?
aussiesausage said:
i have a X10a through telstra, its also rooted.
wonder if i'll ever get updated?
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mate, u will either need to debrand completely, or flash your phone with a different ROM
(or is that basically the same thing !) i flashed my optus branded x10 with global generic (i think its UK or Nordic) and all is good.
another benefit of this is that u wont have to wait for Helstra to get their finger out and have a 2.1 branded ROM for you. if you have a generic rom, then you get the 2.1 update as soon as its available (via seus obviously)
cheers, tim
edit: when you run SEUS - it checks what version you have (telstra) and then looks in the dB for the latest telstra rom available. telstra have only published/released up to the version you are running, therefore "no updates available". If you were running a generic version, when you connected up to SEUS it would be looking for a different version. hope that is a bit clearer
if i completly debrand it, and something happens to it, can i just brand it again and send it back, kinda like. rooting then un-rooting ect
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mrtim123 said:
mate, u will either need to debrand completely, or flash your phone with a different ROM
(or is that basically the same thing !) i flashed my optus branded x10 with global generic (i think its UK or Nordic) and all is good.
another benefit of this is that u wont have to wait for Helstra to get their finger out and have a 2.1 branded ROM for you. if you have a generic rom, then you get the 2.1 update as soon as its available (via seus obviously)
cheers, tim
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I'm also with optus, do I need to flash mine? or is optus quick with releasing updates.
Also does you optus My account widget works in your phone, coz mine doesn't show data usage.
I contacted optus to find out why and they had no idea that we got a widget in the first place
aussiesausage said:
if i completly debrand it, and something happens to it, can i just brand it again and send it back, kinda like. rooting then un-rooting ect
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sure can mate, look at the decrypted ROMS page in the DEV section. But unless something serious goes wrong, you will never load a telstra rom on it again
HQXU said:
I'm also with optus, do I need to flash mine? or is optus quick with releasing updates.
Also does you optus My account widget works in your phone, coz mine doesn't show data usage.
I contacted optus to find out why and they had no idea that we got a widget in the first place
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I found that optus were the quickest of the Aussies, but still they would be a few weeks behind. You will NOT get the update within the same day as it gets released - put it that way.
re: widget - yeah mine never worked but now im on generic i dont have it anyway
wow, i just had a look through that thread, and theres pretty much nothing that would walk me through it, so basically i think i would screw my phone
unless ofcourse you feel like helping me, it sounds good!
could you help me out with what i need to get started or a tutorial or something?
aussiesausage said:
wow, i just had a look through that thread, and theres pretty much nothing that would walk me through it, so basically i think i would screw my phone
unless ofcourse you feel like helping me, it sounds good!
could you help me out with what i need to get started or a tutorial or something?
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right, im gunna want a bit of confirmation from others here....been a while since i did this.
using Bin4ry's post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=711907 i grabbed the latest files from the fileshare websites listed. basically the files that Bin4ry and the other guys have created are a script (batch files) that prompt you step by step. i know the method is called ROOT but its the same process. To ROOT in this original method, you had to flash back to an older revision of the firmware and then update. When you flash back to the older version, it is a generic version. Then you can simply use SEUS to update to newest. KEEP IN MIND that doing ANY kind of firmware update will completely erase anything on the internal memory. This is NOT the sd card, so pics and such will be ok but contacts - msgs - settings will all be gone. might be best to do the one-press root, install titanium backup first and then backup your phone book and other important apps that you may have.
main thing is to ask questions. there are sh!tloads of ppl on here with heaps of knowledge. be safe in the knowledge that you cannot, CANNOT completely screw your phone. you can always flash another firmware back onto it using SEUS. once ppl hack the bootloader, this will be a different story but until then just get in there and have a go
good luck and happy modding!!
mrtim123 said:
right, im gunna want a bit of confirmation from others here....been a while since i did this.
using Bin4ry's post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=711907 i grabbed the latest files from the fileshare websites listed. basically the files that Bin4ry and the other guys have created are a script (batch files) that prompt you step by step. i know the method is called ROOT but its the same process. To ROOT in this original method, you had to flash back to an older revision of the firmware and then update. When you flash back to the older version, it is a generic version. Then you can simply use SEUS to update to newest. KEEP IN MIND that doing ANY kind of firmware update will completely erase anything on the internal memory. This is NOT the sd card, so pics and such will be ok but contacts - msgs - settings will all be gone. might be best to do the one-press root, install titanium backup first and then backup your phone book and other important apps that you may have.
main thing is to ask questions. there are sh!tloads of ppl on here with heaps of knowledge. be safe in the knowledge that you cannot, CANNOT completely screw your phone. you can always flash another firmware back onto it using SEUS. once ppl hack the bootloader, this will be a different story but until then just get in there and have a go
good luck and happy modding!!
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thankyou, but my phone is already rooted, does that mean i can install a diffrent ROM? or has other stuff gotta be done to isntall a diff one?
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I found that optus were the quickest of the Aussies, but still they would be a few weeks behind. You will NOT get the update within the same day as it gets released - put it that way.
re: widget - yeah mine never worked but now im on generic i dont have it anyway
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a few weeks thanks I will try to flash it.
aussiesausage said:
thankyou, but my phone is already rooted, does that mean i can install a diffrent ROM? or has other stuff gotta be done to isntall a diff one?
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main reason that you would root first is so you can use titanium backup to backup your apps and settings. You will still need to flash to a non branded firmware, jerplea has a few ROMS on his posts, probably best to have a look in those threads and ask the masters
i am by no means an expert, i just fumbled my way through it
mrtim123 said:
main reason that you would root first is so you can use titanium backup to backup your apps and settings. You will still need to flash to a non branded firmware, jerplea has a few ROMS on his posts, probably best to have a look in those threads and ask the masters
i am by no means an expert, i just fumbled my way through it
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heh, i just bricked my phone trying the SEUS way lol, fixed it though
i got no need to back up, nothing on there as its a pretty new phone anyway
trying that flash tool thing from the decrypted roms thread
confusing as hell
oh man, i give up. i got no idea how to do this from any of the posts.
just tryed the flash tool thing and it wont work either.
i give up
aussiesausage said:
oh man, i give up. i got no idea how to do this from any of the posts.
just tryed the flash tool thing and it wont work either.
i give up
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when you say wont work....what do you mean? When running the flash tool are you following the prompts on screen? you need to have USB Debugging enabled on the Settings=>Applications=>Development enabled. let me kow where it is failing and we might be able to get it working for ya....if you are still keen anyway
just been reading through the original post from Bin4ry again (the flashing/rooting one)....i think that you should post on it exactly where the problems are, where it is failing and what you are doing. There are several active users on there that are very knowlegable on flashing
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=711907
i have debugging enabled.
i turn my phone off, hold down back, plug it in. and the green light lights up ( as it says in the read me ), i start X10flash.bat, and then it says C:/andrew/downloads/X10flash.jav -jav. ( or something like that ) is not a valid internal or external command, press enter to exit
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i have debugging enabled.
i turn my phone off, hold down back, plug it in. and the green light lights up ( as it says in the read me ), i start X10flash.bat, and then it says C:/andrew/downloads/X10flash.jav -jav. ( or something like that ) is not a valid internal or external command, press enter to exit
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it sounds like a java problem actually.....do you have java installed?
what OS are you on? if its Win7 64bit (or Vista 64bit), there is a 64bit java fix that you need to run also. have a look at this thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=713457
if you are on a 32bit machine then chances are its a deviceID issue but from what you have posted above - it looks like the java problem.
win64 bit, and i think i got java cant remember lol.
will check it out though soon thanks
If you've debranded, you can't upgrade...? Is that the issue?
I've read through the big thread and it doesn't really explain much to me
From what can be gathered so far:
The non-branded HTC Legend FroYo up date checks the phones CID to a list that HTC know are debranded. If the CID is not on that list of the update script, it fails the update. Vodafone and other carrier phones that have been de-branded still have the original CID. In my case, mines is something like VODAF001. This is not on the installer scripts list. Hence the update fails even if we have a debranded 2.1 ROM.
We cannot change, yet, the orginal HTC Update Script as the *.zip file has a signature that cannot be re-signed without knowing HTC's private key. Think of it as encryption - the files are visable, however, the phone checks the signature against what it should be for the contained files. If the files are changed (like changing the supported CID's) then the signature does not match and the phone fails to continue with the update.
There's no way way to change your phones CID or re-sign the FroYo installation rom to accept the diffierent CID's.
So far, we're stuck.
YoungPretender said:
There's no way way to change your phones CID or re-sign the FroYo installation rom to accept the diffierent CID's.
So far, we're stuck.
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Very helpful information there m8 and granted there is no free way to change your phones CID but it is very possible do a quick search for riff box you can change the legend CID with that. Not much use to most people due to it costing £100. Maybe some devs would work on a software CID change, not even sure if it is possible with just software but you never know.
Or what about changin the file in the update to accept your CID then using a goldcard to flash it? Does a goldcard not let you flash unsigned zips?
So corrrect me if I am wrong, I have my Bell Legend Rooted with MCR I also have Rom Manager installed, so, If I edited the froyo update to include my cid, then flashed the rom with Rom Manager, that, as I understand things, should work, since we can flash unsigned roms with Clockwork. Or am I way off base?
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So corrrect me if I am wrong, I have my Bell Legend Rooted with MCR I also have Rom Manager installed, so, If I edited the froyo update to include my cid, then flashed the rom with Rom Manager, that, as I understand things, should work, since we can flash unsigned roms with Clockwork. Or am I way off base?
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Im not sure I dont even have a phone atm waiting on my legend to turn up but it sounds about right to me. That doesnt mean it will actually work tho best off waiting for someone with more experience with these thhings to post.
I bought a Vodafone Spain one, and have debranded it. I use a Cyanogen mod froyo. So i can't update to the official one ? If i put the 2.1 From Vodafone Spain, can't i update to the Vodafone Spain Official 2.2 ?
xnotte said:
I bought a Vodafone Spain one, and have debranded it. I use a Cyanogen mod froyo. So i can't update to the official one ? If i put the 2.1 From Vodafone Spain, can't i update to the Vodafone Spain Official 2.2 ?
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From what I understand if you put the vodafone rom on you can update to vodafone 2.2 but people are having problems getting the wwe 2.2 on de branded handsets
I've got a single idea that I'm trying the now to get working.
Not going to post any details until I know wether it'll fail or work. Fingers and toes crossed through :O
YoungPretender said:
I've got a single idea that I'm trying the now to get working.
Not going to post any details until I know wether it'll fail or work. Fingers and toes crossed through :O
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Good luck let us know how you get on.
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Good luck let us know how you get on.
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Not very well
I'm pretty new to all this anyway, but I thought my techie background would help playing catchup.
Basically, I found my CID of my phone. VODAF001.
Then I went through the official unbranded FroYo rom and replaced supported CID's in the installation script and the android.info text file in the frimware.zip folder with my CID. Resigned the package.
I then rooted my phone (took a few hours - never did it before, but it was a success) then attempted to install the modified and resigned package.
It verifies ok, but I get a Status 7 error. I think this was the same error I had when trying to install the FroYo update from the very start.
Not too happy, but I had to give it a go. Anyone have any other ideas at modifying the original rom file? At least I got the thing to verify after modding it onto a rooted rom. Maybe, just maybe we're 30% there.
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Not very well
I'm pretty new to all this anyway, but I thought my techie background would help playing catchup.
Basically, I found my CID of my phone. VODAF001.
Then I went through the official unbranded FroYo rom and replaced supported CID's in the installation script and the android.info text file in the frimware.zip folder with my CID. Resigned the package.
I then rooted my phone (took a few hours - never did it before, but it was a success) then attempted to install the modified and resigned package.
It verifies ok, but I get a Status 7 error. I think this was the same error I had when trying to install the FroYo update from the very start.
Not too happy, but I had to give it a go. Anyone have any other ideas at modifying the original rom file? At least I got the thing to verify after modding it onto a rooted rom. Maybe, just maybe we're 30% there.
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At least you ruled out one possibility I think the best way would be to change the phones CID that way you would never have to worry about it again and all updates would work as if it was a sim free phone. I remeber a few years back there was a app for the original iphone that would allow you to change the imei (i know this is illegal in most places) the point is the CID needs the same level access. If we have enough access a dev could probably make an app or script to run to change the phones CID to one of a sim free phone. I have posted the question in the dev section no replys yet.
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At least you ruled out one possibility I think the best way would be to change the phones CID that way you would never have to worry about it again and all updates would work as if it was a sim free phone. I remeber a few years back there was a app for the original iphone that would allow you to change the imei (i know this is illegal in most places) the point is the CID needs the same level access. If we have enough access a dev could probably make an app or script to run to change the phones CID to one of a sim free phone. I have posted the question in the dev section no replys yet.
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Agreed. It would be the best solution.
I'm still looking at this script file. I reckon that re-writing the entire thing could also be a possibility - and probably quicker to a solution to the CID problem in the short term.
Trying again taking all the checks out at the begining of the script... see what happens, lol.
Well, different error. Status 4 - whatever that means...
It could be anything. My ROM version currently installed could be too old for the update as well (V.1.xxxx).
Anyway, it's twenty to two here, time for my bed I think...
YoungPretender said:
Trying again taking all the checks out at the begining of the script... see what happens, lol.
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good luck im sure there is a way as with clockwork mod you can flash unsigned roms so just a case of trying as many ways as possible. As for the CID change im guessing that would be a lot of work and would take a long time but would prevent future problems with new updates ect ect.
Not sure why people are freaking out about this. So the Voda Phone one came out early.. I'm sure it's just a matter of days or weeks before the WWE is released. Just chill
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Not sure why people are freaking out about this. So the Voda Phone one came out early.. I'm sure it's just a matter of days or weeks before the WWE is released. Just chill
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I think you are missing the point a legend that was locked to vodafone can not be updated to the wwe. the voda legend has a different cid which is stopping people who debranded there phones from getting the wwe 2.2 update.
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Not sure why people are freaking out about this. So the Voda Phone one came out early.. I'm sure it's just a matter of days or weeks before the WWE is released. Just chill
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So you mean the official FroYo update for non-branded phones? it is! We know the Vodafone one is out.
The problem lie in people who have de-branded. They can't update to the non-branded FroYo that was released today.
(And Yes, I'm still up because I'm a persistant little bugger, lol)
YoungPretender said:
So you mean the official FroYo update for non-branded phones? it is! We know the Vodafone one is out.
The problem lie in people who have de-branded. They can't update to the non-branded FroYo that was released today.
(And Yes, I'm still up because I'm a persistant little bugger, lol)
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haha still tryin post up everythin you try just so people dont have to try things we know dont work.
FeaRThiS said:
From what I understand if you put the vodafone rom on you can update to vodafone 2.2 but people are having problems getting the wwe 2.2 on de branded handsets
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but if i put the vodafone rom back again, it's no longer debranded! right ?
So i can update to the Vodafone ROM 2.2 via OTA right ?
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Sorry for funky first post.. Android App posting gone bad!
Anyone could write this man. If you really want us to believe this is true, then do a computer snapshot of the email/ conversation and post it. Make sure that its the original and not a word document, one officially signed by tmobile with employee ID and name in the email. Sorry but we see a lot of these so called valid responses that end up being complete bs.
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You can log into the HTC Global ContactUs and see the whole conversation, as stated in this thread..
Using the ticket number 11NOCW27ENA000182 and email : bazerave (at) online.no
I contacted HTC support because the end of june is near.. and no update has shows at least on my device, being in norway. And always one or two steps behind everyone because of
our forever slow Telenor Mobil always slowing down the Update's progress..
And it was NOT from Tmobile... it was from the HTC support department...
I can confirm that the replies from HTC are real. Just logged in with the ticket number and email by firsty.. Hope they don't delay too much for South African unbranded Desire Zs
Really hope that they dont dissapoint us with this. And a much needed rootable phone... what a whack idea to lock us out like this.
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This is a very noobish question but hopefully people will actually answer it anyways.. what exactly does an unlocked boot loader mean? Does it mean your phone is essentially always rooted ? So like I could overclock with any of those apps on the market?
Well, it means that it can be rooted using rooting tools. It will not be unlocked out-of-the-box. But capable of recieving Perm root.
The new update locked this feature, and the new bootloader made it impossible to use easy tools to root.
So would this then mean I'd skip the downgrade step? Would I be able to easily temp root? I've always wanted to try but with all the downgrading and code working I'm way too nervous
Yes, when the new bootloader is implemented on the devices it will be possible to use tools that does not require downgrade. As my Desire Z was rooted with Visionary before the .405 update, it SHOULD be possible to use Visionary ( maybe a new updated one for the new 2.3 ) to Temp and Perm root the phone once again.
There might be other tools available when the new bootloader gets on the devices. But there are not much info regarding when and how it will become available.. got no real answer except what i posted here from HTC.. rather cruel to us nerds But it's well worth the wait, i hope
Thanks much for the info! Guess I'll wait until it comes out and see what I can do with it cause I'd really like to give it a shot
Yeah, after my big update-fail loosing root, i have also waited.. even though they say that custom roms are better, i kinda like when my second HTC phone works.. so i take no "big" chances on bricking it So i'll wait too for the update, and see what happes.. i guess i'll brick it then
I know this may sound as bs and if so I'm sry but I just wanna know does this reply from htc relate to the desire Z's in the US only or worldwide?Hopefully with this out I'll be able to finally root my phone
celahudini said:
I know this may sound as bs and if so I'm sry but I just wanna know does this reply from htc relate to the desire Z's in the US only or worldwide?Hopefully with this out I'll be able to finally root my phone
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you know... you can root your phone and get a rom that has gingerbread on it for the past month or so right? if not, check the android development subforum. there's a good amount to choose from and they're all good in their own rights.
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you know... you can root your phone and get a rom that has gingerbread on it for the past month or so right? if not, check the android development subforum. there's a good amount to choose from and they're all good in their own rights.
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No I don't know.I just tried to root it yesterday(for the first time actually) with visionary+ but thankfully I couldn't get it to temproot so I never got to the step to try and permroot it.What's the other method and is it anywhere near as simple as visionary?
When i rooted the first time i used Visionary too. But if you got a model with the new firmware, you cant root it because of the new bootloader.. With older models you could root, and install Ginger with no problem at all. Thats why they decided to go forward with removing the Root-locking bootloader..
And it seems like the answer i got was pretty basic, so to me it sounded like it was for Desire Z in general.. but Provider locked phones will of course be slower than unlocked phones that get the firmware directly from HTC and not the provider-haxed firmware.
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No I don't know.I just tried to root it yesterday(for the first time actually) with visionary+ but thankfully I couldn't get it to temproot so I never got to the step to try and permroot it.What's the other method and is it anywhere near as simple as visionary?
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Check the android dev subforum. or the wiki. there's a full guide on using visionary to only do temp root then gfree to do the perm root. From there, you can pick your choice of gingerbread roms. I'm using virtuous Unity 1.26. others have their preference, but check it out.
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Check the android dev subforum. or the wiki. there's a full guide on using visionary to only do temp root then gfree to do the perm root. From there, you can pick your choice of gingerbread roms. I'm using virtuous Unity 1.26. others have their preference, but check it out.
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So basically from what I've read over there the only option for me is to downgrade to an earlier version,then temproot with visionary and permroot with gfree right?I was hoping I'd be able to install the coredroid rom but that'll be the easy part once I actually manage to root the phone.I mean if the update's gonna come in a matter of days why should I bother downgrading.Btw thanks for your replies guys
Yes, i believe it is because they havent really figured out how to root the newer version. As of waiting a few days for official gb, i have no idea since they promised to deliver during Q2 and since Q3 has just started, i dont know how long it will take for them to actually fulfill their promise.
But in the mean time, unity is a pretty good inbetweener.
You still have to root your phone if u want coredroid anyways, so no harm in doing it now and getting your pick of GB roms.
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Well I wouldn't mind rooting it since I was trying to do it anyways but reading trough the threads and wiki for downgrading the dz all that adb fastboot and goldcard stuff seems way too complicated for me so I guess I'll wait for the official update and see if an easier method like the visionary one or whatever pops up
woah.. those are all different methods, you dont have to use all of them.
as I said:
Temp root via visionary
Perm root via Gfree
done.
no gold card and all that stuff.