Just to let you know:
For all the users in Europe, the HD2 with Android seems to be the only chance to get some kind of a light version of the "HTC EVO 4G". In fact, there wouldn't be that much difference.
The Motorola Milestone (= your "Droid") has not only a signed bootloader wich only accepts signed images, it also has a hughe bug in audio quality.
And the Desire (= 99% your Nexus one) has a crappy screen! (due to the Pentile Matrix of the AMOLED Display)
Alternatives? NO! At least nothing in the "Nexus class".
Android on the HD2 would not only be a "geek hack" or just "fun". It would be something awesome and insane, no other product or money could give you (at least in Europe, where we might never see the EVO 4G)
I and a big bunch of other users here, "over the pond", really, really hope, the XDA Devs will make it!
My honest respect and good luck to all the Devs who might bring a second Christmas Day into 2010 with Android on the HD2.
This is not limited to the fine folks on the other side of the pond. I'm in the states with an HD2 (duh) on T-Mo. Not to say T-mo is the end all beat all, buy I really don't wan't to go Sprint. Nothing against the Sprint network, as my professional experience shows it's as good if not superior to T-Mo in my area of travel.
Still, I would love to have an android device that's fully functional. And since I have not the technical where-with-all, I rely, as usual, on the brains here at XDA.
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Just to let you know:
For all the users in Europe, the HD2 with Android seems to be the only chance to get some kind of a light version of the "HTC EVO 4G". In fact, there wouldn't be that much difference.
The Motorola Milestone (= your "Droid") has not only a signed bootloader wich only accepts signed images, it also has a hughe bug in audio quality.
And the Desire (= 99% your Nexus one) has a crappy screen! (due to the Pentile Matrix of the AMOLED Display)
Alternatives? NO! At least nothing in the "Nexus class".
Android on the HD2 would not only be a "geek hack" or just "fun". It would be something awesome and insane, no other product or money could give you (at least in Europe, where we might never see the EVO 4G)
I and a big bunch of other users here, "over the pond", really, really hope, the XDA Devs will make it!
My honest respect and good luck to all the Devs who might bring a second Christmas Day into 2010 with Android on the HD2.
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oh god... please dont say its not that much of a diffrense... thats the most retarded **** to say.. first of all. if u dont have a hd2 why the **** would u be asking for android all over the place.. and that proves that obviouslly u can't just go buy another 600 dollar phone right?? so its alot of diffrense... The android coming out on hd2 as another phone doesnt do ****.. its just retarded, it just makes most hd2 users feel sick to their stomach that they are stuck with the piece of **** winmo os
these threads are just annoying, its not on the hd2 yet, maybe one day, you had 14 days with most networks to return the phone and change it a android phone, yeah be cool if it comes in hd2 if it doesnt so what!!! same with WP7 if either of them cone cool.
Just to let you know:
the majority of the HD2 owners don't give a damn about android on the HD2. It'll be a cool novelty idea when it'll come to fruition, but other than that, it's nothing to bust your nut over.
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Just to let you know:
the majority of the HD2 owners don't give a damn about android on the HD2. It'll be a cool novelty idea when it'll come to fruition, but other than that, it's nothing to bust your nut over.
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Exactly, most people who bought the HD2 bought it because it's a WinMo phone. That's how most smartphone users pick their phone... by what os it runs. Why would you buy a WinMo device if you didn't want a WinMo device? If you bought it just for the big screen or fast processor, you're impatient and dumb.... there will be phones just as fast with just as big screens for android soon enough. Even the next iphone will have a processor just as fast and have a higher-resolution screen (although, not quite as big).
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oh god... please dont say its not that much of a diffrense... thats the most retarded **** to say.. first of all. if u dont have a hd2 why the **** would u be asking for android all over the place.. and that proves that obviouslly u can't just go buy another 600 dollar phone right?? so its alot of diffrense... The android coming out on hd2 as another phone doesnt do ****.. its just retarded, it just makes most hd2 users feel sick to their stomach that they are stuck with the piece of **** winmo os
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I don't understand what you're saying. You responded to this thread that's been dead for 2 weeks to argue with the op.... but you're stating that winmo is a piece of ****, so wouldn't you agree with the op as he is stating he wants android on the HD2. What am I missing? And most HD2 users are quite happy with WinMo.... why else would they have bought a HD2, a WinMo device. And why did you buy it if you think WinMo is a piece of ****?
alldino, I think you didn't get me!
I don't own a HD2. I have a Milestone (US=Droid) and a Desire (US=Nexus).
The Milestone has a big bug in speech quality, the Desire has a crappy screen.
So there is actually no device with "perfect hardware".
The HD2 does have a great hardware, but WinMo - and I want Android!
and btw. there is NOT much difference between the HD2 and the EVO 4G!
"Just" a higher MP cam, HDMI and more RAM and ROM as far as I know off-hand now.
this will be my one and only reply in an "android on hd2" thread (not including the one that, one day, will officially announce android for hd2 )
IMVHO, if something "linux-ish" has to be ported to HD2, it would be extremely silly that it was android. Android!=linux, linux>>android
Android comes from linux, but it's so underdeveloped and sectorialized that it retains just a little bit resemblance with the flexibility of proper linux.
I am really counting on the fact that something like meego will come to the HD2.
Luckily, as soon as it will be possible to port android, it will always be possible to port meego/moblin/maemo to it.
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this will be my one and only reply in an "android on hd2" thread (not including the one that, one day, will officially announce android for hd2 )
IMVHO, if something "linux-ish" has to be ported to HD2, it would be extremely silly that it was android. Android!=linux, linux>>android
Android comes from linux, but it's so underdeveloped and sectorialized that it retains just a little bit resemblance with the flexibility of proper linux.
I am really counting on the fact that something like meego will come to the HD2.
Luckily, as soon as it will be possible to port android, it will always be possible to port meego/moblin/maemo to it.
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I, too, look forward to the linux kernel port being completed and seeing the different os's that get ported. Meego would be awesome... I haven't had an opportunity to play with it, unfortunately, so a port to the HD2 would provide me that opportunity. I'd also like to see Ubuntu on the HD2. Android will be nice because of the variety of apps it will open the HD2 up to, but I wouldn't use android full-time. But thats why I love the idea of using haret to boot the linux kernel... I get to keep winmo as my main phone os, but can boot up a linux os when I want to.
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alldino, I think you didn't get me!
I don't own a HD2. I have a Milestone (US=Droid) and a Desire (US=Nexus).
The Milestone has a big bug in speech quality, the Desire has a crappy screen.
So there is actually no device with "perfect hardware".
The HD2 does have a great hardware, but WinMo - and I want Android!
and btw. there is NOT much difference between the HD2 and the EVO 4G!
"Just" a higher MP cam, HDMI and more RAM and ROM as far as I know off-hand now.
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I'm sure there will be some Android phone released in europe in the next few months that have as good of specs as the HD2. Definitely by the time there is a functional android port for the HD2, there will be Android phones that are comparable.
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oh god... please dont say its not that much of a diffrense... thats the most retarded sxxt to say.. first of all. if u dont have a hd2 why the fxxk would u be asking for android all over the place.. and that proves that obviouslly u can't just go buy another 600 dollar phone right?? so its alot of diffrense... The android coming out on hd2 as another phone doesnt do sxxt.. its just retarded, it just makes most hd2 users feel sick to their stomach that they are stuck with the piece of sxxt winmo os
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Any chance you could tone down the language?
I personally bought the Hd2 simply because the hardware is just awesome. Never used Winmobile before so I really didn't know what to expect and quite frankly I don't think it's as stable as the Iphone I sold to get the Hd2. Does that bother me? Nope, not a bit. To me, the tweaking and modding, hacking etc... that's the fun part. Android? I say, bring it on! The more I can modify and tweak and hack, that makes me a happy camper!
I, unfortunately, also don't have the expertise to write the coding to do these marvelous things so I'm also waiting patiently for some of the supergeeks,(and I mean that with the utmost respect), to come up with these solutions and programs so that I can run whatever OS that's available for my new toy. I say, the more choices I have, the more fun I'll have!
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I went ahead and made a petition for Android on the HD2. HTC probably won't care and it sucks that it's come to this but whatever. At least this way we'd have an amazing device WITH an OS that will be supported down the line. Theres a field to state whether you're a current or potential owner as well. I couldn't hotlink since I'm a newb so add the www below...
petitiononline.com/And4HD2/petition.html
It would be good
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HTC probably won't care and it sucks that it's come to this...
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Hmnn, good luck with that. I doubt that HTC would care. They are a commercial organsiation, they sell phones, hell, they've won, they got you (and me) to buy an HD2. I chose it for what it was at the time, and it's still the same excellent phone. Developments and politics surrounding Windows Phone 7 Series hasn't affected it's ability to operate. HTC will be wanting people to buy Desires and Supersonics and whatever the next big Android phone is. You might get Android via the back door if someone ports it from a similar spec'd device but i honestly think nothing official will happen. The small number of people interested in migrating their HD2's to Android would be a tiny drop in a massive ocean of commercial opportunities for HTC (but how many people would demand it it to be free if HTC offered it but asked for a porting charge for any driver development changes?). I really don't think that the disappointment felt by some that their HD2's won't be officially, and freely, upgraded to Windows Phone 7 Series is of interest to HTC (or Microsoft either).
That's my honest opinion. Good luck.
there's no way in hell HTC would do this with Desire coming out.
I'm with u Pikasso1, it would be nice to have another O.S in our HD's (Android, linux), only to **** MS to hell!, in my opinion, I don't care if MS brings WinMo 7 to another phones and not to HD2, with 3, 4 or 532 buttons, I piss off over it, I changed from an I900 Omnia to HD2 by the capacitative screen ONLY (I use caps lock to mark the only reason, not big screen, SnapDragon, or nothing else), MS tells us that don't upgrade, HTC get a slap in the face, ****'em & HTC!, the phone itself it's a big machine, I can do a lot of things (even call! ), I think there is HD2 for long (and WinMo 6.5 too), I'll can see videos, hear music, surf internet, and a lot of things without WinMo 7 or another O.S.
How many phones with WinMO are on market? 0?, not yet?, how many with another 6.0, 6.5? millions?, it's like a big soccer score!, in my country there is a phrase to describe this moment...to MS & HTC...Zas! en toda la boca! (Peter Griffin).
i signed it, but htc would never do this... it would kill desire & supersonic
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i signed it, but htc would never do this... it would kill desire & supersonic
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Sigh... it's true, but it's so rare that T-Mobile US gets good hardware and the one time it does... well, you know. I'd switch carriers if I wasn't paying $70 per month for unlimited everything.
http://petitiononline.com/And4HD2/petition.html
Ha, it won't even let me quote your hotlink.
Thanks!
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hell, they've won, they got you (and me) to buy an HD2.
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Actually, I haven't bought one yet, but I'm on T-Mobile and I want one! But it's harder to justify the purchase right now. It's my favorite hardware design by a wide margin though. Plus I just thought, why not make a petition?
Well I would pay for the Android port, just for the choice, we all switch roms to improve performance. So switching between OS gives more choice, but it's not gonna happen.....…
Double LOL on this, what would be next, a petition to FORD to make an alectric engine for your car with diesel engine?
You bought winmo device not an open platform hardware.
MS should read this forum and find out how bad they truly are...
maybe they aldready have..
signed the petition.... expected to see alot more sigs on there than 33
signed.. we need more people!!!
Well I signed, a famous saying springs to mind..... Judge not those who try and fail, but those who fail to try....
Just sign any way, you never know.
signed...!
seriously, terribly disappointed that w7ps would not be made available to the HD2 just because of the button layout.
screw you HTC!
Signed it just for fun and to see how many people this hits... I expect we'll see a good 100 people or so, which would be a drop in the ocean next to the several hundreds of thousand HD2 owners there must be, i.e no single bit of value whatsoever
vivek310 said:
signed...!
seriously, terribly disappointed that w7ps would not be made available to the HD2 just because of the button layout.
screw you HTC!
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Its Microsoft you should be saying "screw you" to if you actually want WP7S not HTC...
Signed with the below comment...
"HTC have two options either allow continued HD2 support via Android or shell out for WM6.x AND WP7S support people. You know where the smart money is HTC. Let XDA-Devs look after WM6.x and HTC can officially offer Android 2.x with support."
Hey...
It might be a noobish question but I just couldn't find a decent answer:
With the release of the HTC Desire, since its very alike the HD2 hardware-wise, is there any chance of it helping with the release of a working Android ROM for the HD2?
I really want to get rid of WinMo 6.5... I hate it...
Thanks
Has been answered many times before, you should have searched.
Anyway, the answer is no, its not easier. And its not magically going to happen overnight either.
Mods will close this.
Tsury said:
Hey...
It might be a noobish question but I just couldn't find a decent answer:
With the release of the HTC Desire, since its very alike the HD2 hardware-wise, is there any chance of it helping with the release of a working Android ROM for the HD2?
I really want to get rid of WinMo 6.5... I hate it...
Thanks
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Why did you get a HD2 if you hate WinMo? Return it and get an android phone.
zarathustrax said:
Why did you get a HD2 if you hate WinMo? Return it and get an android phone.
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i dont understand people...
i hate wm, i hate wm,
but yet wm has the coolest hardware available in the states..
"CLEARLY" you didnt understand what i was trying to say...
its like going to buy that new FORD mustang and you realize you HATE FORD but yet your complaining..
so why not just go buy the CHEVY camaro, sense cleary thats more of your liking...
but to my avail its clearly stupid to buy a phone with a OS that you dont like..thats a wast of money
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i dont understand people...
i hate wm, i hate wm,
but yet wm has the coolest hardware available in the states..
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What does having the coolest HW have to do w/the O/S? You might not understand people, but people don't understand you
zarathustrax said:
Why did you get a HD2 if you hate WinMo? Return it and get an android phone.
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The HD2 is my first smartphone, I bought it because the superb hardware... I didn't know Windows Mobile suck that bad and I also suffered from lack of experience...
Apparently hardware is not nearly enough...
Now that there will be no WinMo 7 no one wants to buy it, at least not in a price I think is worthy...
I thought, hey, if there's a chance I can get Android on this device why not look into it...
I truly hope this day will come; for now I am managing with WinMo...
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The HD2 is my first smartphone, I bought it because the superb hardware... I didn't know Windows Mobile suck that bad and I also suffered from lack of experience...
Apparently hardware is not nearly enough...
Now that there will be no WinMo 7 no one wants to buy it, at least not in a price I think is worthy...
I thought, hey, if there's a chance I can get Android on this device why not look into it...
I truly hope this day will come; for now I am managing with WinMo...
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Flash Custom ROM! of course it will suck on stock ROM
Sultan1993 said:
Flash Custom ROM! of course it will suck on stock ROM
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Well :]
I have a bad case of Obsessive-Rom Updating Disorder....
Flashing every little bit NRGZ28 uploads
Currently downloading his Titanium ROM with SPB... Maybe its Sense that I hate so much
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Still... You can just feel how old WinMo is... Everything is so stitched up....
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Well :]
I have a bad case of Obsessive-Rom Updating Disorder....
Flashing every little bit NRGZ28 uploads
Currently downloading his Titanium ROM with SPB... Maybe its Sense that I hate so much
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Still... You can just feel how old WinMo is... Everything is so stitched up....
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Flash CleanEX and you will see that WM can be fast!
It would have taken a short amount of time (30 mins) to go to a store and demo the phone, or research on the internet, read reviews, watch videos, post your questions BEFORE going out and buying the phone and then moaning how much you hate it.
Society now apparently is made up of people who are unable to make decisions for themselves even when the pertinent facts are readily available.
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Flash CleanEX and you will see that WM can be fast!
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Isn't it a little TOO clean?
efjay said:
It would have taken a short amount of time (30 mins) to go to a store and demo the phone, or research on the internet, read reviews, watch videos, post your questions BEFORE going out and buying the phone and then moaning how much you hate it.
Society now apparently is made up of people who are unable to make decisions for themselves even when the pertinent facts are readily available.
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Meh, you think everyone got 'em fancy stores?
I pre-ordered it... Yes, sometimes there's a hype and people get excited and make emotional decisions... I bet you don't go to the store and research everything you buy...
And there's a long way from moaning about stuff to simply asking one question politely..
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Meh, you think everyone got 'em fancy stores?
I pre-ordered it... Yes, sometimes there's a hype and people get excited and make emotional decisions... I bet you don't go to the store and research everything you buy...
And there's a long way from moaning about stuff to simply asking one question politely..
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I actually research most everything I buy... especially expensive things. It pisses my girlfriend off to no end when I sit and compare different brands or features on things and not just make a quick decision.
I was watching and reading about the HD2 for almost 6 months before I finally got it (as it wasn't released in the US until recently). I love Windows Mobile. I find it to be the most versatile, customizable mobile OS and I'm very upset that MS is changing all that when Windows Phone 7 comes.
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I actually research most everything I buy... especially expensive things. It pisses my girlfriend off to no end when I sit and compare different brands or features on things and not just make a quick decision.
I was watching and reading about the HD2 for almost 6 months before I finally got it (as it wasn't released in the US until recently). I love Windows Mobile. I find it to be the most versatile, customizable mobile OS and I'm very upset that MS is changing all that when Windows Phone 7 comes.
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Well, cheers.
I think sometimes too much freedom isn't necessarily a good thing... One can find himself fiddling too much with his phone to an overkill...
efjay said:
It would have taken a short amount of time (30 mins) to go to a store and demo the phone, or research on the internet, read reviews, watch videos, post your questions BEFORE going out and buying the phone and then moaning how much you hate it.
Society now apparently is made up of people who are unable to make decisions for themselves even when the pertinent facts are readily available.
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I wish I could rate you up like the comments on DailyTech!
Anyway, I'm not sure I understand all the WinMo haters. I read these reviews of the HD2 saying how amazing the hardware is, but the OS sucks... Yet they don't give any reasons the OS sucks.
Sure, I can see a year or two ago, back in the 6.0/6.1 days saying it is ugly... Still, what does ugly keep you from doing? Showing your phone off to the other shallow people around you?
Then I hear "OOOoo, the Marketplace sux0rs!" and I wonder to myself, how did ANYONE survive before a "marketplace." Oh yeah, search online and find what you want, I remember now. Do that, and you'll find that WinMo has a HUGE application pool to draw from.
Now it is "Oh it sux cause it is dead thanks to WP7." Sorry, another lame excuse. Why? Because all WP7 does for anyone, is give it a fancy interface, that if you don't like it... Well, MS says screw you!
So to the OP looking for Android on your HD2, give your HD2 away and buy an Android phone, or help port Android over to the HD2. Just don't come bawling your eyes out to a group who has lived and breathed WinMo for years and say you hate it because it sucks. Maybe it sucks because YOU aren't smart enough to figure it out.
This says it best:
"I can't tell you how frustrated I used to get at supposedly smart people who couldn't care less about power features but instead chose the "smartphone for dummies" (iphone). In time I realized it was their choice and that people for the most part don't want to think in fact most people spend their day trying to find ways not to think."
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"hello, welcome to apple! oh, so your after a phone? come this way..."
arthurbrownleeiv said:
I wish I could rate you up like the comments on DailyTech!
Anyway, I'm not sure I understand all the WinMo haters. I read these reviews of the HD2 saying how amazing the hardware is, but the OS sucks... Yet they don't give any reasons the OS sucks.
Sure, I can see a year or two ago, back in the 6.0/6.1 days saying it is ugly... Still, what does ugly keep you from doing? Showing your phone off to the other shallow people around you?
Then I hear "OOOoo, the Marketplace sux0rs!" and I wonder to myself, how did ANYONE survive before a "marketplace." Oh yeah, search online and find what you want, I remember now. Do that, and you'll find that WinMo has a HUGE application pool to draw from.
Now it is "Oh it sux cause it is dead thanks to WP7." Sorry, another lame excuse. Why? Because all WP7 does for anyone, is give it a fancy interface, that if you don't like it... Well, MS says screw you!
So to the OP looking for Android on your HD2, give your HD2 away and buy an Android phone, or help port Android over to the HD2. Just don't come bawling your eyes out to a group who has lived and breathed WinMo for years and say you hate it because it sucks. Maybe it sucks because YOU aren't smart enough to figure it out.
This says it best:
"I can't tell you how frustrated I used to get at supposedly smart people who couldn't care less about power features but instead chose the "smartphone for dummies" (iphone). In time I realized it was their choice and that people for the most part don't want to think in fact most people spend their day trying to find ways not to think."
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i completely agree..no one can never give a decent recent as to why windows phone sucks..i been using wm for over a year now and i must i enjoy tweaking it..i can make my phone look completely diff in a matter of mins..i got bored of the adroid os and def got bored of the iphone os..wm is awsome
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i completely agree..no one can never give a decent recent as to why windows phone sucks..i been using wm for over a year now and i must i enjoy tweaking it..i can make my phone look completely diff in a matter of mins..i got bored of the adroid os and def got bored of the iphone os..wm is awsome
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Agreed. I've been using WinMo since 2003... before they were all phones and were call pocket pcs. And that's what they are... basicly a pc that fits in your pocket. Now they are even more... they're phones now, too. But people need to remember that they are still pocket pcs and have the same type of learning curve a full pc does. They operate just like windows pcs do.
WinMo was designed as a pocket pc originally, not a phone. Android and iphones, etc were designed to be phones from the beginning. They don't have the same pc functionality like WinMo does. It's a shame that WinMo is nearing the end of it's development life by ms. WP7 is going to be a dumbed down phone now just like the rest.
Hey guys-
Please bare with me here . I recently purchased an almost brand new T-mobile HTC HD2 from a person on Craiglist for 300 bucks. Well it turned out that the phone the person sold me was defective, i.e. a hardware malfunction of somekind , and because T-mobile thought I had bought it through them online, they said it was covered under the "Buyer's Remorse" period. So because of this I sent the one I had originally bought back to T-Mobile for a replacement, and they are sending me a brand new one in the box with all the accesories, factory sealed. But, since I had a chance to play around with winmo 6.5, and HTC Sense, I hate them both. So my question is, because I'm getting a brand new HTC HD2, should I return this one in exchange for a refund and buy something like a nexus one? Or should I stick with this phone? Or...should I exchange the HD2 for something else on T-mobile's network? Any advice would be appreciated. Btw, I payed 300 for the original hd2 I bought, but T-Mo is sending me one worth $450, so it's like there paying me 150 bucks, and they didn't even ask for a proof of purchase, lmao. Kinda cool that's all.
-regards, Bobofosho123
I had the HTC HD and ended up not liking it at all, I really wanted to but just hated everything about it in the end with the exception of the camara. I ended up trading my HD with someone on CL for a T-Mobile 3G Slide and I LOVE it! Im originally coming from an iPhone which I loved but got tired of Crapple and not having 3G speed and this slide is turning out to be even better than my iPhone. It sells for almost the same price as the HD. Just thought i would tell you that and maybe you can send your HD back (if you dont like it) and see if they will give you a slide.
Yeah, thanks for the response. And to he honest, to go from a high-end phone like the HD2 down to a mid-range phone like the slide seems like a ripoff to me. If it's possible, I may return the HD2 to T-Mobile and ask for a check or cash back, if that's possible, and just buy a Nexus One or an ipad (maybe).
get the tmobile samsung vibrant due out july 21. 1ghz cpu, 4" super amoled screen. android phone
ryan562 said:
get the tmobile samsung vibrant due out july 21. 1ghz cpu, 4" super amoled screen. android phone
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i would say check out the android port for the HD2, but it isnt anywhere near completion and who knows how long it could be.
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i would say check out the android port for the HD2, but it isnt anywhere near completion and who knows how long it could be.
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The android port will probably never work like an android phone... it probably won't be good enough to use full-time instead of winmo for at least a year... so if you want android, get an android phone.
The guys here at xda are doing a fabulous job porting Android to the HD2. I've been reading their progress stream and a year to complete is ridiculous. These guys are making leaps and bounds. Recently they put Ubuntu Linux "successfully" on the HD2. No phone functions but what a triumph! Not going to be long for the full port. I'll keep my HD2 just in anticipation of their success. Thanks again developers for all your long hours and hard work. It's much appreciated.
and by the way, Microsoft is losing the battle against Android and will continue doing so. Microsoft's business plan is skewed. Get the product out by the deadline...even if it isn't finished. (Windows 95, 98, 98Se, ME, NT, 2000, XP, Vista...)The mobile 6.5 is the SSDD. It is PLAGUED with problems. I should know, I have one. Sorry for the soapbox everyone.
Hey, I agree, the progress on porting android to the hd2 has been, and this isn't an exaggeration, but I don't feel like waiting an entire year for a fully-working and bug-free android port. I think the smartest decision would be to go with the Samsung Vibrant, which has a screen that's almost as big as the HD2's and has android, and is for T-Mobile out of the box. So wouldn't that be the smartest decision? I do want an answer to that question by the way
The things is the HD2 just seems sleeker and more refined to me personally, sure the Vibrant may have the Android OS but I'll wait to get Android on my HD2.
Just my 2 cents.
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Hey, I agree, the progress on porting android to the hd2 has been, and this isn't an exaggeration, but I don't feel like waiting an entire year for a fully-working and bug-free android port. I think the smartest decision would be to go with the Samsung Vibrant, which has a screen that's almost as big as the HD2's and has android, and is for T-Mobile out of the box. So wouldn't that be the smartest decision? I do want an answer to that question by the way
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the samsung vibrant looks to be a good phone. if you've been reading some of the reviews on it you will find out that it has a better/dedicated GPU for gaming and graphics then our own hd2, nexus one, droid, iphone 3gs. its hummingbird processor is also considered to run faster/smoother than our own 1ghz snapdragon processor as well. on top of that, it's super amoled screen rivals that of the iphone 4 and performs better in sunlight then typical amoleds and offers better battery life.
you make the call. i may purchase the vibrant out of contract while keeping my hd2. good to have the best of both worlds for me. i also forgot to mention that you also have to worry about gingerbread and froyo updates via OTA from t-mobile. much easier to get them on an android-ready phone like the vibrant. samsung is going to release this phone on all major carriers so updates are on the horizon. (this is for those who think that samsung won't push for updates as they haven't had in the past)
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If it's possible, I may return the HD2 to T-Mobile and ask for a check or cash back, if that's possible, and just buy a Nexus One or an ipad (maybe).
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This sounds like a really bad idea. Ever hear the phrase, "Take the money and run" Take the HD2 and sell it on ebay, then go buy what ever you want. If you have no receipt and your not listed as the owner on the account you may get screwed. What if this guy got the phone on a payment plan? What if he got the contract deal and they won't issue the refund and won't send you your phone once they discover the error. Just think about it a bit and count your blessings because this whole thing could of gone a whole other direction.
shamusmckinney said:
The guys here at xda are doing a fabulous job porting Android to the HD2. I've been reading their progress stream and a year to complete is ridiculous. These guys are making leaps and bounds. Recently they put Ubuntu Linux "successfully" on the HD2. No phone functions but what a triumph! Not going to be long for the full port. I'll keep my HD2 just in anticipation of their success. Thanks again developers for all your long hours and hard work. It's much appreciated.
and by the way, Microsoft is losing the battle against Android and will continue doing so. Microsoft's business plan is skewed. Get the product out by the deadline...even if it isn't finished. (Windows 95, 98, 98Se, ME, NT, 2000, XP, Vista...)The mobile 6.5 is the SSDD. It is PLAGUED with problems. I should know, I have one. Sorry for the soapbox everyone.
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Yes, they are making great progress... but there will probably never be a full "completed" port.... it will probably never run like an android phone. It's ridiculous to think it will. Have you used any of the other android ports for winmo phones? Some have been developed for years... and development went just as quick for some of them... and they are still a long way from being complete or "fully" functional. It will be awesome to have winmo, which I consider the best and most customizable mobile os, on my hd2 most of the time and be able to boot into android to use specific apps or play around with when I want. It will be somewhat functional in the next couple months (probably missing camera, and a few other things, and will probably be a battery drain... but usable)... but it will not be as functional as an android phone and probably not functional enough to want to use full-time on the hd2 instead of winmo for probably a year or so. Like I said... do some research... look at the development history of the other ports.
I also disagree about what you say about winmo... I've used it since 2003. I've also used android for a couple years.... Winmo is just as stable, and much more customizable and functional than android is at this point. I admit.. its not as user friendly... and it takes time and knowledge to set it up to use it's functionality. Android is quickly catching up as it's constantly being developed, and android was designed from the beginning to be a phone os. WinMo was designed to be a stand alone pocket pc os, and phone functionality has been added since the convergence of pocket pcs and phones... so the phone functions of it can be a little awkward or not implemented efficiently. But if you're looking for pc functionality, winmo blows android out of the water.
Don't get me wrong... I love android too... and can't wait for the hd2 port to be developed more... but be realistic with your expectations. There's plenty of past times this has been done to know what to expect with it if you do some reading. Android on the HD2 will be great... that's another great thing about winmo phones... they usually get android ported at some point. But if you want to use android full-time, its best to get an android phone. If you can't stand winmo, don't keep the HD2 expecting a perfect android port that runs like an android phone.
ryan562 said:
the samsung vibrant looks to be a good phone. if you've been reading some of the reviews on it you will find out that it has a better/dedicated GPU for gaming and graphics then our own hd2, nexus one, droid, iphone 3gs. its hummingbird processor is also considered to run faster/smoother than our own 1ghz snapdragon processor as well. on top of that, it's super amoled screen rivals that of the iphone 4 and performs better in sunlight then typical amoleds and offers better battery life.
you make the call. i may purchase the vibrant out of contract while keeping my hd2. good to have the best of both worlds for me. i also forgot to mention that you also have to worry about gingerbread and froyo updates via OTA from t-mobile. much easier to get them on an android-ready phone like the vibrant. samsung is going to release this phone on all major carriers so updates are on the horizon. (this is for those who think that samsung won't push for updates as they haven't had in the past)
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Yeah man, I'm watching some reviews on the vibrant now and it definitely looks like the phone for me, and I can deal with .3 inches less screen size, as compared to the HD2. Not to mention, the vibrant seems to have a better screen than the HD2 anyway. And to think I only paid 300 bucks for my HD2 on Craigslist originally, lmao!!!! I'm certainly going to get one hell of a trade here, woot woot !!!!
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Hey, I agree, the progress on porting android to the hd2 has been, and this isn't an exaggeration, but I don't feel like waiting an entire year for a fully-working and bug-free android port. I think the smartest decision would be to go with the Samsung Vibrant, which has a screen that's almost as big as the HD2's and has android, and is for T-Mobile out of the box. So wouldn't that be the smartest decision? I do want an answer to that question by the way
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You got to remember, when i first saw it on tmobile website, the Vibrant was in the list and it was sold for $350 bucks. And that was like 4 or 5 in the morning. I got really stoked because i thought tmobile watned to surprise anyone by releasing galaxy s. But turned out, it think it was their mistake for putting up the price tag. Anyway, my point is, no matter how good Vibrant could be, the hardware quality does not come any near my HD2. No matter how some people hate this device, they must admit it is the highest quality device out there. Vibrant has plastic back, no flash and 4in screen is a joke compared to 4.3 And heard it was light which doesn't feel expensive. Anyway, i'm waiting for even bigger one HD3. I know it is a rumor, but HD2 was a ridiculous rumor, but hey, i'm holding one right now.
Hi everyone
usually when people make new threads about asking questions i think - come on man cant u figure out urself?
but now its my turn to ask ur opinion
So i got the hd2 since january and really i dont have any complain till now but a friend at work wants to trade his desire with my hd2..
Both phones arein same condition and work perfectly..
The question is does it worth to trade it or?
I tried several builds of android on hd2 and i see that i like android alot,
but i think till it can really be ported on our hd2 and work flawlesly we will need a bit more time..
So would you trade or wait..??
malias4 said:
Hi everyone
usually when people make new threads about asking questions i think - come on man cant u figure out urself?
but now its my turn to ask ur opinion
So i got the hd2 since january and really i dont have any complain till now but a friend at work wants to trade his desire with my hd2..
Both phones arein same condition and work perfectly..
The question is does it worth to trade it or?
I tried several builds of android on hd2 and i see that i like android alot,
but i think till it can really be ported on our hd2 and work flawlesly we will need a bit more time..
So would you trade or wait..??
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That's a tough one, I guess it comes down to what you use the phone for. Both phones are nearly identical technically but interestingly the HD2 still costs alot more unlocked.
I've used the Desire a lot and personally I'd probably stick with my HD2. The AMOLED screen on the Desire is great but I just prefer the size and contrast of the HD2's TFT screen.
Tough one though!
Yeah the hard thing is tha size matter!
Im used tpo the big screen now so i dont know if i can handle the one from desire bs its a bit smaller..
I usually use the phone for browsing, emails and a bit of music-movies -gaming..
And also calling , txting
I would go for the DESIRE ! Come on man Hd2 is just about to be burried RIP come Nov with 7 around the corner.
Why don't you too just swap the phones for a week or something and see how you like the other one. If both of you'll be happy with the new one then that's it. And of cource, if one of you don't like the "new" phone then swap them again. This way both of you will be better informed, no matter what you willl decide in the end.
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Why don't you too just swap the phones for a week or something and see how you like the other one. If both of you'll be happy with the new one then that's it. And of cource, if one of you don't like the "new" phone then swap them again. This way both of you will be better informed, no matter what you willl decide in the end.
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i think this is the best idea, i just feel like i betray my lovely hd2 like this..
i mean if i trade it or sell it
Alkali said:
I would go for the DESIRE ! Come on man Hd2 is just about to be burried RIP come Nov with 7 around the corner.
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Do you honestly believe the devs here will leave it at "no win7 update", it has the hardware (and two keys extra lol)
On the original post:
I got a great deal around 2 weeks ago and instead of getting a desire for 300ish eur on contract, got a HD2 for 160e
Best choice I ever made, screen size does matter
I'd keep the HD2 for its pure awesomeness and the 90% chance of getting a 7 phone for "free".
edit: also from what i've seen with my short encounters with android, it still has a bit to go no matter how good. Your hd2 is good till android 3 and phone 7 with their respective phones become available, wait it out on the phone change
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I would go for the DESIRE ! Come on man Hd2 is just about to be burried RIP come Nov with 7 around the corner.
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cant say I agree with that, loads of old devices still have a thriving community, why wouldn't the hd2??
theres going to be plenty ofpeople with no interest in either wp7 or android....
this phones going to around for a while.......
to answer your question, I wouldn't swap.....
i wouldnt swap my hd2 for desire. i bought a legend over the desire because i already have an hd2 with its huge 4.3". its screen size is enormous and it has the processor to handle wp7 if ever it comes out. plus the hd2 has editor in office. in my opinion, i will keep the hd2.
Won't hesitate!!
I definitely would keep HD2!!!
Nothing compares with this beautifully designed massive screen!!
HD2 no doubts just have a look at ugly desire design and small screen don't even think i don't see any phone on the market which can beat Leo at this time...
I don't se the need to replace your HD2 with Desire since we can already run Android on our HD2's. Unless you don't want to use WinMo again.
yea we can run android but not 100% functionable, and thats true!
also i have a data plan wiv unlimited internet so if i boot in android the speed is crappy etc..
hopefully soon the devs can solve al the issues n it will be better..
keep the hd2. android ime is perfecrly usable on a daily basis. i find it just as fast if not faster than win mobile. battery life is same nd network speeds great. yes there are still annoying bugs. but so does win mobile. the sheer amount of apps and stuff u can do outweighs the bugs massively. plus ot only takes a few mintues to get back to win mobile.
malias4 said:
yea we can run android but not 100% functionable, and thats true!
also i have a data plan wiv unlimited internet so if i boot in android the speed is crappy etc..
hopefully soon the devs can solve al the issues n it will be better..
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the latest released kernals are very fast with no lag it is even faster than the desire , and remember desire don't have proper multitouch like what our hd2 have (don't believe me try multitouch apps from the market ) and with respect to the functionality the only missing thing now is the light sensor and wifi theatering and i think within two weeks we will have a fully functional kernal
Thanks guys for your replies, im convinced now..
just have to be a little patient i think till android will be 100 percent flashable..
Till then i ll enjoy the dual boot and the massive screen
Let me explain my question.
HD2 is most popular phone for developers. We have Android, WindowsM , WP7 , Ubuntu,...etc.
My question is what phone is going to replace HD2 and will be focus for all developers in next years.
I will keep my HD2. I want in future to buy a new phone which will support multiple OSes like HD2, but have better multitouch, screen, speaker,...etc.
So what phone do you think is the next "HD2" ???
That's a really nice question mate! A bit difficult for me to say though! HD2 is by far the best phone ever made and developers gave to much effort for us to have all those Operating systems running extremely fast and stable. Although as i said it's a bit difficult to say which device will take place! I just got my HD7 and sold my HD2 because WP7 is really my OS! Simply, fast, stable and something new! So i don't think so that HD7 will be a developers phone or any other device currently available! HD2 will be in history until something new will come in the future! Now who is the next King?? UKNOWN!
I am quite sure that the device which will be the "dev-fav" successor of HD2 is not yet existing. However, the next generation will bring even more power, maybe there will be a few candidates on the market soon...
Probably due to the fact the HD2 is the only Windows based 1Ghz model, not sure any other native device from Android, Windows Phone 7 etc...could be hacked so well as the windows mobile base, if they bought out another windows mobile phone with dual cores etc...
easy answer, its the next phone cotulla buys. So only you have to be aware its when cotulla buys a new phone and which.
I don't know if there ever will be another phone that gets as hacked as the HD2 did. The HD2 was in a unique position where it got all the ports it did... also it being pretty much the first and last winmo phone with snapdragon, and there wasn't any competition of other winmo phones in it's league, it attracted a lot of devs. With any new android or wp7 phone, there is such a variety of choices and similar devices, that the devs won't all get the same device... they will be more spread out between the variety of similar devices, so porting won't be accomplished as quick as the hd2 ports did. Also, I think winmo devices were much easier to port other os's to than android or wp7 devices. I think the next device that comes closest to the versatility and choice the hd2 had will probably be a nokia meego device or something like that.
zarathustrax said:
I think the next device that comes closest to the versatility and choice the hd2 had will probably be a nokia meego device or something like that.
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Thats if nokia still exists.
Meego gone
meego
not as good as a 2007 iphone 1
Nokia CEO: "the first iPhone [was] shipping in 2007, and we still don't have a product that is close to that experience. Android came on the scene just over two years ago, and this week they took our leadership position in smartphone volumes."
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One of two ways for Nokia here, focus on 'not quite smart' phones, or throw a few billion at R&D and give us a Deep-Blue-on-a-Chip, folding 8"screen multiboot dream machine, hehe.
samsamuel said:
If nokia exists.
One of two ways for Nokia here, focus on 'not quite smart' phones, or throw a few billion at R&D and give us a Deep-Blue-on-a-Chip, folding 8"screen multiboot dream machine, hehe.
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Yeah, how could Nokia ever compete with Android, despite being one of the worlds largest manufacturers of mobiles devices and being able to run software from other OSs?
@OP I don't think anyone can predict "the next HD2", especially when you consider that no-one knew that the HD2 would be as popular as it is, before it became that popular.
Only time will tell
johncmolyneux said:
Yeah, how could Nokia ever compete with Android, despite being one of the worlds largest manufacturers of mobiles devices and being able to run software from other OSs?
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heh, ah im just talkative, highlighting an amusing statement from nokia ceo. Nice to hear one not talking teh talk, , perhaps its a ploy to drop a little share price so he can buy big.
I know how big (and rich) and powerfull (and rich) and smart (and rich&smart) Nokia are. Old hands vs the android/rim babes in arms, and I have every confidence that the 'press in case you arent dead' alert system in my coffin will be nokia /symbian based.
samsamuel said:
I have every confidence that the 'press in case you arent dead' alert system in my coffin will be nokia /symbian based.
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Probably right mate, but I'm 100% sure it will be on Java, whatever it is
ahh yea, java, i really should have a look at it. if i'm (ever) gonna learn a language (eventually), it may as well be that one.
There is no way to know when the next "HD2" will appear and what it will be. However I have a hunch it might be another HTC device being HTC receives a lot of development here and that HTC usually delivers innovative devices.
tfouto said:
easy answer, its the next phone cotulla buys. So only you have to be aware its when cotulla buys a new phone and which.
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I agree! wait until the master deceids.
LG Optimus 2X.
BEAST.
johncmolyneux said:
Yeah, how could Nokia ever compete with Android, despite being one of the worlds largest manufacturers of mobiles devices and being able to run software from other OSs?
@OP I don't think anyone can predict "the next HD2", especially when you consider that no-one knew that the HD2 would be as popular as it is, before it became that popular.
Only time will tell
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Speaking of Nokia.. I just heard that Nokia and microsoft are starting to work together... so most nokia's will now use wp7.
zarathustrax said:
Speaking of Nokia.. I just heard that Nokia and microsoft are starting to work together... so most nokia's will now use wp7.
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Yes, its kinda disappointing though...I would have preferred Nokia going the android way and they could have put their software resources on building a custom UI like Sense..maybe they could have put something exceptional...
Now its just going be vanilla Win7 phone just like every other Win7 phone out there...nothing much to distinguish from..
Anyway back on topic...I think its going be some Nokia phone. Many people just buy nokia for its brand name and reliability...and some people would hate Win7 which although a great OS..is very limited..
So it might generate interest in the community to port Android on it.
tfouto said:
easy answer, its the next phone cotulla buys. So only you have to be aware its when cotulla buys a new phone and which.
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That is the truth right there! I would buy any phone that cotulla said he was getting! But I would still keep this beast as a play toy.
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Desire HD2 or Htc Pyramid
mattfmartin said:
Desire HD2 or Htc Pyramid
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HTC Pyramid is the same as the Desire 2..so Desire2 for me
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mattfmartin said:
Desire HD2 or Htc Pyramid
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they will be moddable like hd2?