We have a review that has finally comprehensively and scientifically tested the audio quality of the 3.5mm jack http://www.gsmarena.com/google_nexus_one-review-457p6.php
Can anyone comment on the quality of audio streamed through bluetooth? It would seem that the car dock will leave us relying on bluetooth for easy music, but audio quality is a big deal to me. Does anyone know what to expect in regards to serious audio quality through the bluetooth on the nexus one?
Will it still dip/lack in bass? Will it be essentially lossless? Very compressed sounding? Does anyone with a good audio system/ear for audio use the bluetooth output and have something to say about it?
Any comments appreciated
bradsh1 said:
We have a review that has finally comprehensively and scientifically tested the audio quality of the 3.5mm jack http://www.gsmarena.com/google_nexus_one-review-457p6.php
Can anyone comment on the quality of audio streamed through bluetooth? It would seem that the car dock will leave us relying on bluetooth for easy music, but audio quality is a big deal to me. Does anyone know what to expect in regards to serious audio quality through the bluetooth on the nexus one?
Will it still dip/lack in bass? Will it be essentially lossless? Very compressed sounding? Does anyone with a good audio system/ear for audio use the bluetooth output and have something to say about it?
Any comments appreciated
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Well I stream audio to my Pioneer head unit. It's reasonable quality, but don't even think about comparing it to the CD deck. It's very good for what it is designed for - streaming low bandwidth MP3s to noisy car environments where not having the highest quality sound is a little less important than in your living room.
I haven't noticed big dips in bass compared to other inputs, but I don't know what you mean by lossless. If you are asking is fidelity is lost, of course it is, but I don't think there's really any difference when playing back the highly compressed MP3s that I make. Crappy old recordings stuffed onto CD still sounds far worse than a CD compressed to MP3 and played via blue tooth.
Youre not going to tell the difference between CD audio and 320KBPS mp3 on most songs. Period.
But the nexus one headphone jack definitely outputs less bass than is appropriate. The iPod classic is nearly perfect in frequency response, and the N1 puts out noticeably less bass for me than my iPod. I suspected this right when I bought it, and this graph came along a bit later and proved it:
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Are you telling me that you haven't tried any reasonable quality MP3s on your car? Also, I promise you, some of us have stereos in our cars that rival most living rooms, especially those equipped with "home theater in a box".
Are you saying the bluetooth audio is worse than the headphone jack?
I'm using an Anycom BT stereo headset (streaming Pandora, DroidLite, and iHeartRadio). Fidelity doesn't compare to high quality wired ear buds, but it's far from inferior (I'd say it's 95% there). Regarding in-car, your eq can more than make up for the lack of fidelity. I'm not disappointed with N1's a2dp streaming at all. Streams are continuous. I've never experienced a single hiccup, unless you're more than 20 feet away, and sync picks up immediately where it left off after receiving a phone call.
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Youre not going to tell the difference between CD audio and 320KBPS mp3 on most songs. Period.
But the nexus one headphone jack definitely outputs less bass than is appropriate. The iPod classic is nearly perfect in frequency response, and the N1 puts out noticeably less bass for me than my iPod....
Are you telling me that you haven't tried any reasonable quality MP3s on your car? Also, I promise you, some of us have stereos in our cars that rival most living rooms, especially those equipped with "home theater in a box".
Are you saying the bluetooth audio is worse than the headphone jack?
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I'm saying I was surprised at how good the bluetooth playback was through my head unit - for bluetooth.
My car stereo is nothing special, but I can tell the difference between my mp3s and my cds if I listen carefully in my driveway. The Mp3s generally sound fine, with reasonable quality, but they are generally not 320kps mp3s.
Consider this: the headphone jack is playing music that has been converted to analog, and run through the amplifier on the N1 for output to the jack and playback on headphones or speakers.
With Bluetooth, the digital information is not converted to analog for playback. Instead, it is compressed (because sbc compression is what a2dp does), then transferred digitally to another playback device. There, where it is received, the information is decrypted and amplifiled and sent to a headphone or speakers. So the Nexus One amplifier that has produces the "weak bottom end" does not come into play, since it is never employed.
When it's done, I think the bluetooth playback is okay, not great, and not awful like some like to characterize it. Real audiophiles are not going to like it, but for the masses it will probably do just fine at reasonable listening levels. A2DP employs SBC compression, which isn't the best. Since I generally use mp3s that are compressed too much to begin with by audiophile standards (128kps) I am not going to notice the impact of SBC compression as much as someone using 320kps compression. The purpose of SBC compression is to make the information fit onto the bluetooth stream. If you're starting with more data to begin with, you're going to experience more loss of quality with a2dp. After reading what a2dp/sbc does, I think after a certain point, you are going to pay a heavy penalty for using high bandwidth audio files, because SBC compression is just going to maul it to make it stream. For a2dp purposes, I think I actually benefit by choosing better compression to begin with - when I rip my MP3s to 128kps. This way, I am impacted far less later on when SBC compression does it's thing - which by all accounts is a much worse method of compression. I may try a rip of the same song using various compressions and compare at some point to prove this out.
I know this isn't the answer you were looking for, but I hope it helps.
Hmmm. Thanks very much for the information.
Getting bluetooth in my car would require a rather expensive addon to my stereo. I guess what I will do is pair with my laptop and run audio out from that. That should be a worst possible scenario for sound quality
It depends on the quality of the transmitter as well..I have a bluetooth adapter (one with a 3.5 jack)) and it sound pretty darn good when paired to my N1.
For whatever reason it doesnt sound as good and suffers from far more breakups and skips when streaming from my PC.
Ok, so I did my test and I'm a little disappointed. The frequency response is fine, but the A2DP seems to add some background hiss. What I did is pair the phone with my laptop and hook my laptop up with 3.5mm, then play the same song and hit pause on both to change sources.
MAYBE the hiss was coming from the PC bluetooth receiver but I really doubt it. Sound was very clear when played through the PC (Winamp) and had background hiss whenever anything was playing on the phone.
Not a big deal if you only listen to loud music, kind of annoying if you listen to anything soft.
So yeah, there it is. The bluetooth audio is definitively worse than the 3.5mm, in my opinion. It's still pretty good though, and most people probably won't notice the difference. I'm just not sure its worth the $100 bluetooth receiver to me.
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First of all, thanks to Cyanogen and contributors for his G1 and N1 ROM's.
Recently, I've been using FLAC for music playback ripped from my CD's for tracks that I want lossless (especially for classical music). Most of the time, I'm using my Motorola S805 (Bluetooth) for the cans that I got on Black Friday back in 2009 from Newegg for a low price of $20 USD, shipped. -- Best money I spent for Black Friday Granted they're normally overpriced but they perform fairly well for the price I paid.
So after using FLAC and the S805 on my ASUS notebook which has built-in Bluetooth, I moved some of the FLAC files onto my Nexus One and paired my S805 to the N1 and started some FLAC playback...
The difference in quality blew me away. It's so much clearer playing back FLAC files on the N1 to my S805's than it ever was using VLC under Windows 7. I'm at a loss on why the difference. -- Yes, I've attempted to adjust the "volume" on both the Windows Mixer and the S805 internal volume controls as the same on the N1. There's virtually *no hiss" when playing back FLAC files on the N1 than on my ASUS notebook. I have a very noticeable "elevated" noise floor on the ASUS among "compression artifacts" which I don't think I should have.
Does anyone know what might be the cause?
Thanks!
Cheers,
Kermee
Happened to come across this so I'll reply even though it's quite old.
The audio output on the Nexus one is average. I believe you can find the frequency graph of the Nexus One at the gsmarena.com review of it. So while it's not stellar, it's not bad. More than likely you're hearing a difference because your notebook's output is low quality.
Notebooks generally have poor audio quality and tend to generate a lot of noise. You'll especially notice it when your computer is under load or when you plug it into a powersource. It's like electronic interference, afterall everything on the laptop is packed together pretty tightly. The other reason is just poor hardware. Sound gets neglected frequently on notebooks. The best solution is to pickup an exteranl soundcard (I know soundblaster makes a few usb ones) or even better get yourself a usb DAC (digital analog converter) and a headphone amplifier. ibasso.com has several versatile ones.
Goto head-fi.org for some audiophile info.
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Happened to come across this so I'll reply even though it's quite old.
The audio output on the Nexus one is average. I believe you can find the frequency graph of the Nexus One at the gsmarena.com review of it. So while it's not stellar, it's not bad. More than likely you're hearing a difference because your notebook's output is low quality.
Notebooks generally have poor audio quality and tend to generate a lot of noise. You'll especially notice it when your computer is under load or when you plug it into a powersource. It's like electronic interference, afterall everything on the laptop is packed together pretty tightly. The other reason is just poor hardware. Sound gets neglected frequently on notebooks. The best solution is to pickup an exteranl soundcard (I know soundblaster makes a few usb ones) or even better get yourself a usb DAC (digital analog converter) and a headphone amplifier. ibasso.com has several versatile ones.
Goto head-fi.org for some audiophile info.
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This doesn't explain why Bluetooth headphones, completely disconnected from the computer, sounds bad
I'd say the most likely reason is some difference of A2DP implementation between the two. Maybe the standard Bluetooth stack on a computer lacks polish on this part.
Well the N1 isnt a good audio player at all since the frequencies are cut off. Also flac really wouldnt make a difference until you buy a high end set of headphones (UM3x, Ultimate Ears Triple Fi 10 etc.) and a source to match it (nice DAC, amp). Instead of wasting all the space on flac you should just go for vbr or the like since bluetooth will not be able to fully take advantage of it. Head-fi is a great place to start, but be careful since your wallet will hate you if you really do start getting into buying nicer headphones.
If you're just using your nexus one and an A2DP headset, there isn't a difference in audio quality between a file ripped at V0 bitrate and flac. You're only going to really hear the details a FLAC file has with a high end audio setup or good headphones with an amp, and your nexus+the motorola headset do not fall into those categories It isn't a criticism of your setup, they literally cannot reproduce the details.
As far as your question, it might have to do with the bluetooth stack as well as the hardware/interference in your laptop, but that's just a guess as I'm not too knowledgeable on the workings of bluetooth audio.
The N1 is barely a year old, and since it's designed primarily as a phone, it should have a fairly new Bluetooth radio and stack, probably much newer than whatever you have bundled in your Asus laptop. In fact both the desktop dock and the car dock use Bluetooth to stream the audio to the auxiliary audio port, which may seem a bit roundabout to audiophiles, but thanks to the new hardware there's very little noticeable loss to the average consumer, and it makes it easier to connect and disconnect from the dock.
That said, being such a new technology, Bluetooth has only recently improved to the point of being a decent quality source for streaming audio. I have an old USB Bluetooth adapter in my desktop that I bought right about the time when A2DP was first available, and its audio quality is pretty bad, too. And like any standard for streaming data, Bluetooth's perceived streaming quality is highly dependent on the hardware on both ends, meaning that the maximum quality you'll get is that which is achievable of the older of the two devices.
Any audiophile will tell you that if you want true quality, you should just ditch wireless technologies altogether, which I too have done. But for your purposes, and in the interest of saving money, you can bring your laptop up to par with your N1 by simply installing a new Bluetooth stack, or, if that doesn't work, buying a new USB Bluetooth adapter, preferably one that is advertised to work well for music.
Wow. I completely forgot about this thread. LOL.
I figured it out in the end what was happening. -- The negotiated 'bitpool' setting between my Windows 7 BT stack and the A2DP headphones was somehow negotiating at the "min" which was somewhere around the low 30's. Using some BT diagnostic tools on my MBP (different machine than the ASUS Windows 7 machine), I found the "max" bitpool rate which the A2DP headphones supported was 53.
I found out that the N1 was connecting to my A2DP headphones at the "max" bitpool rate which my headphones supported. The sound quality between a bitpool rate of "53" vs "30" is huge. Hence why playback on the N1 sounded so much better.
I never did find out how to force the 'bitpool' rates in Windows 7 and gave up. I did under Snow Leopard 10.6 on my MBP.
Cheers,
Kermee
The default Microsoft Bluetooth stack in Windows 7 does not include the ability to change the bitpool settings, nor does the standard Broadcom WIDCOMM stack.
Most people opt to use the BlueSoleil Bluetooth stack for more advanced functions, and I can confirm that BlueSoleil does have the ability to adjust bitpool settings. Unfortunately the product costs about $25, and you will need to check to make sure that BlueSoleil is compatible with your laptop's integrated Bluetooth.
Ok, I just have to put this out there, unless you have a very good sound card, a good amplifier, and good headphones, there is no reason to use FLAC audio files unless you just feel like wasting HD space.
Bluetooth audio has really bad bitrate and won't even come close to flac.
wolfcry0 said:
Ok, I just have to put this out there, unless you have a very good sound card, a good amplifier, and good headphones, there is no reason to use FLAC audio files unless you just feel like wasting HD space.
Bluetooth audio has really bad bitrate and won't even come close to flac.
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I agree bluetooth audio quality leaves a lot to be desired. It is so nice to be able to drag flacs over to the phone and listen, though. Definitely one of my favorite features of Android and that 32gb card investment made it happen!
i have a friend who has the nokia 97 and he showed me an app where he can use the phone as an FM transmitter, kind of like an ipod. Is it possible for the TP2 to do that? im thinking not because he antenna for the radio is in the headphones and not the phone itself like the nokia, but could we develop an app that can make the TP2 have an FM transmitter with the headphones plugged in to access radio?
I think it could make for a great and useful app.
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i have a friend who has the nokia 97 and he showed me an app where he can use the phone as an FM transmitter, kind of like an ipod. Is it possible for the TP2 to do that? im thinking not because he antenna for the radio is in the headphones and not the phone itself like the nokia, but could we develop an app that can make the TP2 have an FM transmitter with the headphones plugged in to access radio?
I think it could make for a great and useful app.
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The hardware needed to make it an Fm transmitter is not in the Tp2 and so this is not possible. Ive seen plug in devices that transmit whatever comes out of the headphone socket so this would be your only option i think.
i already use such a transmitter for my TP2.
but it isn't useful.
the transmitter need his own power supply and the TP2 will not be charge while the transmitter is pluged in....
Mic is crap, for talking inside the car very bad.
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damn =(, this would have been great to have. Thanks guys
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i already use such a transmitter for my TP2.
but it isn't useful.
the transmitter need his own power supply and the TP2 will not be charge while the transmitter is pluged in....
Mic is crap, for talking inside the car very bad.
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Im using the exact same thing for my car
Good enough for listening to music on my phone...maybe that's all you want
try a bluetooth a2Dp carkit fm transmitter... wow thats a mouthfull..
Anyway.. search for one of those on ebay. I've used them for years. The unit itself plugs in directly to a power outlet in your car. You use the bluetooth on your phone to transmit stereo audio to the unit which in turn broadcasts the audio to the car stereo. I like this cause.... well no wires. The units also have a "carkit" function so when a call comes in it routes the audio over the stereo too and uses a mic built in that you speak through. Pretty clear I have to say.
They range anywhere from 15 dollars to 60 dollars on ebay. I went with a lower end one and once this breaks (though I've had it for about 3 or so years now) I'll be going with a more expensive one. I've found, at least with the one I have, that when there is no audio actually being transmitted to the device the sound that is played through the stereo in the car is similar to that of an old fax machine, all be it a lot less annoying and loud. When I first started using it I used to just run a loop of white noise from my phone in windows media player and then use the built in audio player in manilla to play actual music... also really handy when driving and using tomtom or something on the phone. ALSO really handy when listening to pandora or slacker radio
Long story short.. look up A2Dp fm transmitter and you guys will be set!
For just listening to music in the car nothing beats the direct wire connection of a 3.5 mm connection, IMHO. But, if you would like a full featured alternative I'd go with an Alpine X10. It has BT for streaming music and phone calls. Also has a direct Ipod connection, which is it's main use.
I've heard nothing but good reviews from the Motorola T505
http://direct.motorola.com/hellomoto/t505/
Yeah I use a T505. It works well but is let down by the TP2s bluetooth stack. However music works fine
I've bought several FM Transmitters, not for my Tilt2 but for different cars without AUX input....do yourselves a favor and just get 3.5MM Stereo AUX Inputs if that is the sole purpose of your phone is to listen to music in your cars.... You can get a new radio with aux as cheap as $100-150 installed...
I sold all the FM transmitters i've bought, the only nice ones cost just as much as a radio installed, and you're not getting full sound quality, plus driving out of town sucks when you hit the biggest radio station of that town, just so happens to be the frequency you selected.
If it's for another purpose, my apologies..
p.s., you can mod them up to sound better on some, you can add antenna (just buy small gauge wire or an actual antenna) - search for your unit to see if it can be modded to cover more range.. I ran 12 feet of wiring all around my Honda Civic when I was in the FM Transmitter phase..
Goodluck
Does the headset button only serves to stop / play or is multifunction like magic?
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Does the headset button only serves to stop / play or is multifunction like magic?
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it depends on your Bluetooth headset
your BT headset must have A2DP capabilities
some models does not have remote control feature
the one that does, they usually have lots of buttons
or you tap the same "answer" button once to pause, and "double tap answer" to skip forward.
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it depends on your Bluetooth headset
your BT headset must have A2DP capabilities
some models does not have remote control feature
the one that does, they usually have lots of buttons
or you tap the same "answer" button once to pause, and "double tap answer" to skip forward.
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I refer to the headphones that come with the phone. What bluetooth headset would you recommend?
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Brief BTs Review
+1 vote for Motorola HT820, it is simply the VERY BEST! of them all; in funtionality, ease of use, sound purity, and comfy level.
other ones i've and still using but don't like are:
Jabra BT8010 (good but always breaks the earloop)
Sony HBH-DS980 (too much wire, it defeats the purpose of bluetooth)
Sony DRBT21G (pales in comparison to Moto HT820, but it's passable, not comfy though)
BlueTake BT420Rx (Gen1 bluetooth, no A2DP, limited features, very comfy, good sound, but it looks like princess leia specially if you have the white version)
Plantronics Voyager 855 (pure garbage, no A2DP)
Motorola S9 (dies easily with sweat dripped into the device, bad design, it's a total failure compare to its big brother HT820)
my top 2 choices for sound are:
HT820
BT420Rx
my top choice for formar work/fun mix
BT8010
unfortunately the BT8010 is very prone at breaking the earloop even with careful use, i went through 3 sets of it already.
luckily enough when you buy these they come in pairs with the stereo side, so i always use the stereo side of the earloop to replace the main headset, as i seldomly use the stereo side of the headset, i mostly just use the single side of it.
for real stereo i'll much prefer to use the HT820
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+1 vote for Motorola HT820, it is simply the VERY BEST! of them all; in funtionality, ease of use, sound purity, and comfy level.
other ones i've and still using but don't like are:
Jabra BT8010 (good but always breaks the earloop)
Sony HBH-DS980 (too much wire, it defeats the purpose of bluetooth)
Sony DRBT21G (pales in comparison to Moto HT820, but it's passable, not comfy though)
BlueTake BT420Rx (Gen1 bluetooth, no A2DP, limited features, very comfy, good sound, but it looks like princess leia specially if you have the white version)
Plantronics Voyager 855 (pure garbage, no A2DP)
Motorola S9 (dies easily with sweat dripped into the device, bad design, it's a total failure compare to its big brother HT820)
my top 2 choices for sound are:
HT820
BT420Rx
my top choice for formar work/fun mix
BT8010
unfortunately the BT8010 is very prone at breaking the earloop even with careful use, i went through 3 sets of it already.
luckily enough when you but these they come in pairs with the stereo side, so i always use the stereo side of the earloop to replace the main headset, as i seldomly use the stereo side of the headset, i mostly just use the single side of it.
for real stereo i'll much prefer to use the HT820
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Thanks
Anyway does anyone know is the song you can go forward with the headphones that come with the phone?
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Been looking around for a few good ours for a good remote - headphone piece, will give the moto headphones a try, but i have a question, has anyone tried the nokia n97 headphones Nokia Stereo Headset WH-500 or Nokia Stereo Headset WH-701 (google them, can't post link) . Please post if they work (or not). My guess is that they won't, but it doesn't hurt to try.
Found Nokia Bluetooth BH-504 to. if anyone can confirm it works that would be great.
I noticed that when I'm connected to the cars bluetooth I can hear audio from my phone... Sadly the quality is terrible...
Is there anyway to send music to my car while still retaining good music quality?
the aux cable is proving to be a hassle.
Heard about a black berry bluetooth device they ppl on the mbforums use...
that must be your car that is crappy, because i stream BT audio from the phone to the car every time i drive, as it is easier to update my phone with the latest music i want to hear.
quality is perfect, car deck is a CZ509 10" sub, and yes the sound comes out loud and clear on all 6 speakers including the most beloved bass and sub boom bomm boom
if the car got no boom, it is boring to ride.
SGS is my #1 DJ phone, it rulez, yeah baby!
oh! oh! the best thing is, i luv that sweet voice of it, when it tells me the time of the alarm in the car, and if some one calls me, emails me, text me, it reads me all with that sweet lady voice of its
and it will automatically switch between music to hands free phone conversation, and back to audio when the call has ended.
my wife is actually jealous of my SGS as i seem to be spending more time in bed with the phone than with her.
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SGS is my #1 DJ phone, it rulez, yeah baby!
oh! oh! the best thing is, i luv that sweet voice of it, when it tells me the time of the alarm in the car, and if some one calls me, emails me, text me, it reads me all with that sweet lady voice of its
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comes with SGS? or you have other application to make that happen?
there are many apps for that, the build in one is vlingo (in samsung apps), and you can install
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8461187&postcount=102
and there are even more apps to customize to talk back to the phone to write your SMS, and or dictate an emails for you like vlingo
the only trick is that most of these apps requires some voice training and customization to use them to its max potential.
try it, it's free
wtf really...
benz usually do slack on the entertainment aspect of their cars...
i mean damn that is weird... i have the phone paired with the car, conversations work fine... but as for audio... hmm
ill check out those programs though... maybe i was doing something wrong... :\
and yes loud clear music is great... nothing less than 192 for sure... the 8' stock harman kardon sub is ok... but i wish i had a 10 or 12 in there.
thanks still.
edit: any external bluetooth receivers that might work through a aux cable jack?
ignore the apps mentioned above, those are only for voice commands, and voice features.
back to the Audio Quality part of the conversation, check to see what features does your in car bluetooth supports, and see if it's BT 2.0 or something else
see if it supports the AVRP features, and A2DP
try different music, some music plays and sound better than others
the phone comes with BT 3.0 and it's compatible with older BT 2.0 and 1.0
you should get good audio quality if all things are paired up properly with the better BT compatibility.
check what other audio features does the car support in regards to mp3, enable those as well
stream play high quality mp3 on the phone to the car at least 160 and up
128 some times have hisses
the source of the mp3 must be pure like from CD, DVD or BD
cheaply recorded or ripped audio from radio, or internet streams sounds horrible in the car
I have a Parrot MKi9000 installed in my 2008 Passat (standard Highline Gala sound system & speakers) and the music streams beautifully over Bluetooth from the SGS. It's not an audiophile's dream, but the convenience beats everything. I'm more than satisfied with the quality.
Bluetooth audio works great in my Mondeo, superb call quality. However, it only works for voice, not music. Shame...
Beginning with Froyo, there is a new method startBluetoothSco (), which can be used to send and received audio to/from a bluetooth SCO headset while the phone is not in call. Of course, it's only for mono low quality sounds (16kHz or 8kHz) but it should allow user interaction via the car kit (reading sms, guidance or voice command, for example).
If your bluetooth car kit allows A2DP, the quality can be better, but you should not have problem to output sounds on the car audio
just found the blackberry device i was talking about
here is the link for anyone who is interested in streaming media to the car over bluetooth.
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http://androidnexus.com/guides/stre...droid-phone-to-your-car-stereo-over-bluetooth
ok so this is what I need to use insted of connecting SGS over AUX port?
apparently ya...
only thing queer about it is that you have to power it using a usb.
but ya should be as simple as hooking that up to your aux jack... and pairing with your SGS...
im gonna grab one soon ill bump this when i get it.
There are also apps for this in the Market.
Super BT Mono trial version for Eclair (2.1)!
Super BT Mono trial version for Froyo (2.2)!
yani2000 said:
There are also apps for this in the Market.
Super BT Mono trial version for Eclair (2.1)!
Super BT Mono trial version for Froyo (2.2)!
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I think you are missing the point, the suggestion is well taken for whom ever though of using a mono headset to fake a stereo BT stream
but you do know we are talking about Streaming BT Stereo to a CAR audio system
streaming MONO will defeat the whole purpose of Streaming STEREO to the car audio system
right?
Hi,
So I have a bluetooth headset and all is well with that. What I was hoping to do is pick up a bluetooth FM transmitter like this one:
http://www.banggood.com/Wireless-Bl..._campaign=newsletter-emarsys&utm_content=vera
So is it possible to have a phone call to my ear and music via the FM transmitter at the same time? Bluetooth phone + 3.5mm music doesn't seem to work, so maybe BT+BT will. I have done all sorts of magyver audio setups in the car over the years and I am at the point where I want only a single device and no wires (other than charger); as of now I have been unable to find a way to be on the phone and have music going at the same time on one device. I have an ipod but it's interface is really janky and dangerous to operate behind the wheel. Plus my phone can download music on the fly.
Anyway, the internet yielded poor results, so here I am asking.
So I found a roadblock
So I tried using the bluetooth from a car that I occasionally drive. I managed to pair everything up and had both my Jawbone headset connected as well as the car. I had the music playing through the car's stereo. All good. I tried making a test call, and the music audio was routed to the earpiece as well as the call. Not sure what's wrong here. I have in the profiles the Jawbone set to call only and the car set to media only. Not sure if it's a glitch or just pilot error.
I don't drive this car often, the one I drive like 50+ hrs a week has no bluetooth, hence why I want to buy the adapter. Not sure if there will be any point if this is going to be the result. This is exactly what happens when I try to use BT + 3.5 mm as an audio solution. Maybe multiple sound destinations is too much to ask?
I think what you will need to do is find a device that does both rather than trying to juggle two devices.
Car bluetooth will play audio then pause for calls, etc, but I do not know how different devices would interact with each other to have them pause while the other is at work...
My experience with FM transmitters has been poor. The sound quality is greatly diminished, and you get interference.
I would just go to crutchfield and get a new stereo for the car you spend most of your time in.
euphoria47 said:
So I tried using the bluetooth from a car that I occasionally drive. I managed to pair everything up and had both my Jawbone headset connected as well as the car. I had the music playing through the car's stereo. All good. I tried making a test call, and the music audio was routed to the earpiece as well as the call. Not sure what's wrong here. I have in the profiles the Jawbone set to call only and the car set to media only. Not sure if it's a glitch or just pilot error.
I don't drive this car often, the one I drive like 50+ hrs a week has no bluetooth, hence why I want to buy the adapter. Not sure if there will be any point if this is going to be the result. This is exactly what happens when I try to use BT + 3.5 mm as an audio solution. Maybe multiple sound destinations is too much to ask?
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When your paired and connected have you tried going into Bluetooth settings and clicking the device.. I know there's usually and option for audio and one for phone audio.. Turn off phone audio for the car radio so it should only play music.. And turn off audio for the jawbone and just leave phone audio checked..
I haven't messed with it yet.. I did do on my atrix hd on a trip so we had music and nobody had to listen to my phone calls.. Not sure if the option is definitely there since I haven't done it on this phone but I would think it is
Edit: screenshot was taken on my s4 so if you set it up the way I described earlier you should have music from your radio/transmitter and phone calls only to your headset
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rcklss1 said:
When your paired and connected have you tried going into Bluetooth settings and clicking the device.. I know there's usually and option for audio and one for phone audio.. Turn off phone audio for the car radio so it should only play music.. And turn off audio for the jawbone and just leave phone audio checked..
I haven't messed with it yet.. I did do on my atrix hd on a trip so we had music and nobody had to listen to my phone calls.. Not sure if the option is definitely there since I haven't done it on this phone but I would think it is
Edit: screenshot was taken on my s4 so if you set it up the way I described earlier you should have music from your radio/transmitter and phone calls only to your headset
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I have played exactly with these settings and I have the earpiece to phone only and car set to media only but when the call comes in, the car stops playing music and the music goes to the earpiece with the call which is annoying. I would like to be able to be on the phone and have the music keep playing, as if the car was playing from a cd. I am thinking maybe it is not possible to have two outputs active simultaneously.
joeybear23 said:
I think what you will need to do is find a device that does both rather than trying to juggle two devices.
Car bluetooth will play audio then pause for calls, etc, but I do not know how different devices would interact with each other to have them pause while the other is at work...
My experience with FM transmitters has been poor. The sound quality is greatly diminished, and you get interference.
I would just go to crutchfield and get a new stereo for the car you spend most of your time in.
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I drive a taxi so i want to keep my calls off the radio. I mute myself and interact with my customers, play them music, etc. When the customer leaves i turn the music down and return to the call. Again, I think these phones might not be capable of making sound in different ways at the same time. BT + 3.5 jack yields the same issue with the music routing to the headset on a call...
euphoria47 said:
I have played exactly with these settings and I have the earpiece to phone only and car set to media only but when the call comes in, the car stops playing music and the music goes to the earpiece with the call which is annoying. I would like to be able to be on the phone and have the music keep playing, as if the car was playing from a cd. I am thinking maybe it is not possible to have two outputs active simultaneously.
I drive a taxi so i want to keep my calls off the radio. I mute myself and interact with my customers, play them music, etc. When the customer leaves i turn the music down and return to the call. Again, I think these phones might not be capable of making sound in different ways at the same time. BT + 3.5 jack yields the same issue with the music routing to the headset on a call...
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Hmm.. I know I had my other phone do what I described.. It did however stop playing music on the radio while I was on a call.. Then resumed when I hung up.. I'll have to try it tonight when I leave work and see.. But you definitely may be right..
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rcklss1 said:
Hmm.. I know I had my other phone do what I described.. It did however stop playing music on the radio while I was on a call.. Then resumed when I hung up.. I'll have to try it tonight when I leave work and see.. But you definitely may be right..
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That would be appreciated. Pausing playback would be preferable to having the music drown out the convo in the earpiece. If I were rich I'd keep my old phone for music, but such is life. I use poweramp so maybe that has something to do with it. I also tried an app called soundabout but it doesn't seem to do what I want. I posted on their forum but no response yet.