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I have an original ROM O2 (UK) XDA2. Last night, for the first time, I tried the poxy MMS thing. Someone sent me one which worked fine (eventually) and his number came through in the international format, i.e. +447123456789. I clicked reply and sent him a video back. It didn't arrive. (But I bet I still got charged for it :roll: )
When I clicked to reply to the incoming MMS, the number that was in the 'To:' box was 447123456789, in international format, but without the +, similar to what happens when selecting contacts for the SMS 'To:' field. So, I did some experimentation.
I discovered that MMS don't get sent if the phone number doesn't have the leading zero (for the UK market). International-number formats don't work, even if the number has the + at the beginning. So, if someone sends you an MMS and their number comes through in international format, you can't simply reply to it without editing the number to UK format.
Does anyone know whether any work has been done on this issue for the new official ROM update? Either to rework the number so it's correct to the international format, or to allow incorrect numbers to get through the system to the recipient even if it's in international format but without the +?
As far as I recall, numbers sent to sms recipients, keep the + bit in them (this is under the NEW ROM - for the older ROM you have to enter the plus yourself, depending on how you searched and entered the contact).
But for MMS, the + sign seems to be truncated when sending a message (again, this is under the new rom, but I recall this is the case from the older rom too???).
Nevertheless, the message still gets sent with it truncated though.
So if it was still in your Outbox, then the number format is NOT the problem, but a network one instead.
This is confirmable by the fact that if the + sign WAS the problem, the message would STILL have attempted to send, but you would have then got an error message instead.
This strongly leads me to believe that your problem, is a Network or GPRS one.
Certainly NOT a number format issue.
If the numbers are not of the right format, the symptom would manifest itself in the message trying to send, then an error message being shown.
Not what you have.
i did have this problem when replying or selecting a number from contacts to send a message too, it always don't include + sign even if its included in the contacts, the only 2 work arounds i found to solve this problem is either add 00 instead of + for me it was a night mare since all my numbers are stored in international format even local ones for raoming needs so the other option to avoid it is the type the name in the TO field & an auto continue will show you a list of contacts with the matching letters then choose it from their, only then it will send it correctly even it it has +, i think its an RSU issue or maybe Rom country selection issue because i noticed when it fails to send a message it reputs the contry code like the following +44207 wil be something like 44244207 & no matter where i searched to find where the hell it brings this original country code i couldn't find it
Rabia.
The + sign being omitted is a known bug on earlier ROM versions.
The latest ROM fixes this.
But this doesn't have any bearing on the OP's problem, in that for MMS, the software seems to drop the + in the address field anyway, but still manages to get through fine.
And if the problem WAS one of the number format, this would be shown in the form of an error message saying the message could not be delivered.
As the OP is not getting this, and the message seems to be just sitting in his Outbox, I suspect a completely different problem perhaps.
i have worked with operators because of my business nature & from my understanding also that someoperators will recognize the international codes without even 00 or + & some will not so here you go i got multiple problems to contibute in this :shock:
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As the OP is not getting this, and the message seems to be just sitting in his Outbox, I suspect a completely different problem perhaps.
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No no, perhaps I didn't explain properly. As far as the XDA2 is concerned, the message has gone, but it never arrives at the destination. So the network is losing the MMS because it's not properly addressed, but it's only incorrectly addressed because of the MMS software on the XDA2.
Hope that clarifies it.
It would have done mate, were it not for the fact that as far as SMS at least are concerned, if you send a text to a number that is not valid, or incorrectly formed or laid out, you get an error message to tell you, and you say you are not getting an error message.
So let me test this with MMS and get back to you. If it generates an error message, then it shows it is not a number issue.
Er I CAN'T test it as such mate...
Becuase just as I thought, and mentioned in my posts, when I go into the contacts list to choose a recipient for an MMS, they ALL have the + sign removed from them.
My own number shows (changed slightly of course) as:
447866123456;
In the "To Phone" field.
But if I send, it gets through fine. As it does with other numbers.
Which was exactly my point - that with the MMS Software (and this does NOT apply to the SMS application, which is very different), the numbers always have the + sign stripped out of them, but they still send.
So if your numbers appear as 447899123456 etc then if you are in the UK there is no reason why they should not get sent, as I already said based on number format, as this is exactly what happens anyway.
The only thing I can then offer, if you are in the UK, is that you check your regional settings etc on the xda.
Failing that, then maybe its time for that ROM upgrade?
Strange one.
I figured it was a network problem, but wondered whether the source of the problem (i.e. the fact that the MMS Composer application screws up the number for me) had been fixed in the ROM update.
MMS msgs which don't have the + in front of the international code don't get through for me, and I can't send them with the + in front because the MMS Composer app strips it off, even when I add it manually to the number to which I'm replying. So all numbers must be of the national format, i.e. 07123456789 and I can't send MMS abroad.
So, has this 'bug' been fixed in the new ROM update?
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I figured it was a network problem, but wondered whether the source of the problem (i.e. the fact that the MMS Composer application screws up the number for me) had been fixed in the ROM update.
MMS msgs which don't have the + in front of the international code don't get through for me, and I can't send them with the + in front because the MMS Composer app strips it off, even when I add it manually to the number to which I'm replying. So all numbers must be of the national format, i.e. 07123456789 and I can't send MMS abroad.
So, has this 'bug' been fixed in the new ROM update?
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NO mate - because as I indicated, it is NOT a bug.
Whilst the MMS Software strips the + sign on the display, it must still SEND to the number with the + in, becuase all of mine get through, whereas, an SMS without the plus, as seen by the bug in SMS software that IS fixed in the new ROM, does NOT get through.
Let me make it clear, as I have obviously not in my last three posts...
There MUST be something else giving you trouble.
Becuase for me, saying it for the third time, with the + sign not shown, it STILL works. And I am in the UK just like you.
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...as I indicated, it is NOT a bug.
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Please put your arrogance to one side for a moment, and stop SHOUTING certain words at me. There is a bug. The MMS software removes the + from the number for international-format numbers, even if I type it in manually to the number before sending. This is a bug. OK? :roll:
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Whilst the MMS Software strips the + sign on the display, it must still SEND to the number with the + in, becuase all of mine get through, whereas, an SMS without the plus, as seen by the bug in SMS software that IS fixed in the new ROM, does NOT get through.
Let me make it clear, as I have obviously not in my last three posts...
There MUST be something else giving you trouble.
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I don't care about this. My testing has revealed one simple fact, as I keep trying to explain: when the phone number is in UK-format, with a leading zero, my MMS get through. When it's in a broken international number format, they don't. I want the software to send them with a correct international-format number so that they work. Thus, my question is: has the bug in the MMS Composer software which strips the + from international numbers been fixed with the new ROM update? (If you read above, you'll notice that this was the question I first asked... :roll: )
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Becuase for me, saying it for the third time, with the + sign not shown, it STILL works. And I am in the UK just like you.
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Yes, but according to your profile, you're with Orange. I'm with O2, and they don't work. No error messages, no failure reports, nothing. Just silence. Can you please just believe me, or do you want to come to my house and I'll demonstrate to you?
I appreciate your attempts to help, but if I had wanted someone to treat me like an idiot I'd have asked for that. OK?
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Shadamehr said:
...as I indicated, it is NOT a bug.
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Please put your arrogance to one side for a moment, and stop SHOUTING certain words at me. There is a bug. The MMS software removes the + from the number for international-format numbers, even if I type it in manually to the number before sending. This is a bug. OK? :roll:
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I'm SHOUTING cos you keep missing it. And now for the FOURTH time - it is NOT a BUG per se - got that - I'll say it again - NOT a bug per se, because having looked on a friend's XDA2, it does this for ALL, and yet works on his too. I'm sorry for shouting. If you LISTEN however, I can refrain from shouting. Let me be absolutely utterly and abundantly clear - I have no doubt you have a clear issue. What I am SHOUTING, and yet you keep ignoring, is that I am trying to tell you that the MMS Composer stripping the + sign out, is NOT the answer to your problems alone. Can I make that any clearer?
Shadamehr said:
Whilst the MMS Software strips the + sign on the display, it must still SEND to the number with the + in, becuase all of mine get through, whereas, an SMS without the plus, as seen by the bug in SMS software that IS fixed in the new ROM, does NOT get through.
Let me make it clear, as I have obviously not in my last three posts...
There MUST be something else giving you trouble.
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I don't care about this. My testing has revealed one simple fact, as I keep trying to explain: when the phone number is in UK-format, with a leading zero, my MMS get through. When it's in a broken international number format, they don't. I want the software to send them with a correct international-format number so that they work. Thus, my question is: has the bug in the MMS Composer software which strips the + from international numbers been fixed with the new ROM update? (If you read above, you'll notice that this was the question I first asked... :roll: )
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I DID notice it first time. You just didn't seem to see my answer for the THIRD time. Let me go one bette for you, I cannot answer the question as you phrase it, because, as I have said, it is NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT a bug, so how can I say if a bug has been fixed, if it is not a bug? Moreover, never mind the ROM update, I have downloaded and installed version 1.6.0.9 of the Arcsoft MMS software, and this is still there BY DESIGN - the ROM Update version is only to 1.6.0.8 - so TWO version updates do not alter this behaviour - which I would have expected if this was a bug.
(And as an aside, if you want me to send you a copy of the latest version, even newer that the ROM Update one, I happily will)
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Becuase for me, saying it for the third time, with the + sign not shown, it STILL works. And I am in the UK just like you.
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Yes, but according to your profile, you're with Orange. I'm with O2, and they don't work. No error messages, no failure reports, nothing. Just silence. Can you please just believe me, or do you want to come to my house and I'll demonstrate to you?
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I have an O2 SIM too, or in between your attempts to keep correcting me, did you not think I would try it? And as I also indicated, my mate has an O2 XDA2, and his works too. Not sure his ROM version though.
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I appreciate your attempts to help, but if I had wanted someone to treat me like an idiot I'd have asked for that. OK?
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When people keep constantly ignoring what people are pointing out to them, and better yet, even criticising them for SHOUTING becuase they are still being ignored, I COULD offer that tis is indeed exactly what you have asked for.
But in actual fact, i am very keen to try and help you, so I won't stoop down.
Once again, not knowing if you have already checked or not, can I suggest you check your regional settings.
Also, something else I noticed, is that using Outlook 2003, if I enter a number on the phone, the way I used to do it was like:
+44 191 460 1234 (for landline numbers with the gaps in just as you see them)
And +44 7899 123 456 for mobile numbers, again with the gaps just as you see them.
This nevertheless, still worked fine for SMS, and MMS.
Now that my trial of Outlook 2003 has ended, and I have re-installed Outlook XP, the earlier version, I now find, no matter what I do, that if I enter a number in the manner I prefer as above, onto the phone, when it syncs with Outlook, they appear as 44 (191) 460 1234 or 44 7899 123 456 in Outlook, and the same when sync'ed back to the phone, yet they still work.
Let me be absolutely clear however, the single only purpose for my post, which, in effect I am now saying for the fifth time, is that to the very best of my knowledge, and despite what you repeatedly think, and as backed up by testing with my O2 sim, and on a friend's phone, that as far as ArcSoft MMS composer is concerned, the appearance of numbers in the program's contacts list with the leading + stripped, whilst looking problematic, is actually NOT a bug, and for the rest of us, seems to work fine regardless.
I say nothing more than that.
Forget it. Can't even be bothered to read all that arrogance.
Do these forums have an ignore function?
Right then. Let me summarise, if only to give you an opportunity to shout at me again (even though I've been listening carefully all the way through this painful process). (I hope you're not a teacher.)
When I create an MMS using a number in the international format with a + at the beginning, the MMS Composer helpfully removes the + from the front of the number when I click to send it.
This 'special behaviour' of MMS Composer in stripping out the + symbol is not a bug. I'm not sure what one should call this, but you are absolutely clear that it's not a bug. It must be by design, huh? (Why would they design it this way, I wonder?)
Anyway, MMS messages sent by me in this way don't arrive at the destination. I get no error messages. As far as my machine is concerned, they have gone.
When you do the same thing, your messages get through.
You can't tell me why, or offer any useful suggestions for circumventing this problem. You can only keep repeating that I don't have a problem, this is a network feature, and that you're bored of telling me this.
Well thanks for your contributions.
Can anyone else help me with something useful?
(Shadamehr - keep quiet here. I don't need any more input from you right now.)
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Right then. Let me summarise, if only to give you an opportunity to shout at me again (even though I've been listening carefully all the way through this painful process). (I hope you're not a teacher.)
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You may have been listening - it's hellish clear you haven't been taking it in though.
sublimatica said:
When I create an MMS using a number in the international format with a + at the beginning, the MMS Composer helpfully removes the + from the front of the number when I click to send it.
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Yes
sublimatica said:
This 'special behaviour' of MMS Composer in stripping out the + symbol is not a bug. I'm not sure what one should call this, but you are absolutely clear that it's not a bug. It must be by design, huh? (Why would they design it this way, I wonder?)
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No idea, and I fully concur its daft - never once argued with you there.
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Anyway, MMS messages sent by me in this way don't arrive at the destination. I get no error messages. As far as my machine is concerned, they have gone.
When you do the same thing, your messages get through.
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Yes - exactly so.
sublimatica said:
You can't tell me why, or offer any useful suggestions for circumventing this problem. You can only keep repeating that I don't have a problem, this is a network feature, and that you're bored of telling me this.
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Completely untrue you arrogant idiot - if nothing else I have indicated regional settings on the xda2 as one area to investigate, and written at length about the strange behaviour different from Outlook 2002/XP to Outlook 2003 - your arrogance and sheer falsitudes seem to know no bounds. It might not have been much, but it was a clear attempt to try to help. For Christ's sake, you'd think I was getting PAID for trying to help you, and not giving up of my time and effort for free to seek to help a fellow user.
Like I said, you arrogant swine - are you for real? And where the hell did I say you don't have a problem? You have an absolutely genuine one. All I ever said was that the MMS software stripping the + out is not the be all and end all cause of your problems. A fact which still holds true, and in its very own right is a VERY helpful piece of advice or information for you.
I am trying to tell you that what you see happen in terms of the MMS software stripping out the + sign is a situation that seems inherint for all UK users, and yet doesn't stop other people sending.
How the hell can you overlook that key fact, and tell me it's not an important piece of information for you or again overlook the fact that I am TRYING to help you?
On the contrary, I mentioned this way back in my first attempt to help you, but you completely overlooked it, and now have dug a fairly large hole for yourself, now that this fact is starting to sink in with you.
But instead of letting me take the shovel off you, and instead give you a (freely profered) helping hand out of the hole, you can do nothing but attack me, for trying to help you, and dig that hole much deeper for yourself.
I have done nothing but try and help, came out with a key piece of information, and came back time and time again to try and help more, and all you can do is treat me like cr*p. ? ? ? ! ! !
Well bonny lad, frankly, you are the biggest t*sser I have had the misfortune to come across, and if you think I'll hang around here for you to attack me more when I repeatedly give up my time to try and HELP you, you really do have another thing coming.
You can well and truly go to hell mate.
You sad sad soul
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Well thanks for your contributions.
Can anyone else help me with something useful?
(Shadamehr - keep quiet here. I don't need any more input from you right now.)
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Who the hell do you thnk you are to tell me that?
My advice to any would be helper to you now would be:
"Don't bother - you'll make time and effort to try and help him, and he'll treat you like a piece of cr*p for your reward"
Honestly - what colour is the sky on the planet where you live?
Get a life, and then look back at this event in embarresment. You should hang your head in shame.
:lol: :lol: :lol: Like I said, I didn't actually need any more input from you, Shademehr, but thanks for the laugh anyway.
Sensible suggestions from knowledgeable users on ways to solve my MMS problems (as opposed to just telling me the problem is unique and vaguely waving me in the direction of regional settings :roll: ) are still welcome - thanks in advance.
sublimatica said:
:lol: :lol: :lol: Like I said, I didn't actually need any more input from you, Shademehr, but thanks for the laugh anyway.
Sensible suggestions from knowledgeable users on ways to solve my MMS problems (as opposed to just telling me the problem is unique and vaguely waving me in the direction of regional settings :roll: ) are still welcome - thanks in advance.
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You utterly arrogant moronic b*stard.
I've spent god only knows how long trying to help you, and offering to send you updated versions of the software to try out and see if that helps, and all you can do is take the p*ss and find it funny and say what a LAUGH it has been for you?
And then ask if ANYONE ELSE wants to try and help you too?
You think they want the p*ss taken out of them once they have spent ages trying to help you too?
Your not of this planet sunshine.
Thanks for the message saying "thanks for all the time you spent trying to help me shadamehr".
As if.
You f*cking d*ckhead - what an ungrateful arrogant b*stard.
Good luck. You're gonna need it.
mms problems
i am frightened to say this now, but..... i appear to have the same problem, the msg appears to leave me ok, it just never arrives. i havent managed to send any mms for the past month - 6 weeks since i changed from Nokia 6600 to XDA II.
Please don't be frightened, David - I'm not that bad, honest! :lol:
I discovered while testing again the other day that SMS messages don't get through for me either unless the number is perfectly correct (i.e. with the + included if in international format), so what I'm experiencing isn't limited to MMS. I guess it must be a network limitation.
I'm sure that other people reported that SMS do get through without the + attached when this bug first came to light last year. At least with SMS I get a warning that the message couldn't be sent.
I rarely close threads, but this one is closed.
I'm very busy this weekend, and have no time to read this whole thread to see who did what to whom.
Past experience has shown that text-based forums are not a good place to express feelings of anger and frustration. Please all realise that no matter how well we're doing presently, a community such as this is always more brittle and fragile than you'd expect.
Love, Peace & Happyness,
Peter
( dig it! dig it! )
bad situation: Sweetheart erroneously receives an SMS from you that was meant for Honey.
solution: Read and re-read your messages before sending them, and verify that you arre sending to the right person before pressing SEND, but we are only HUMAN, and we make mistakes.
software to the rescue: A SMS editor program that FILTERS your messages and decides wether your message is really meant for the person you are sending the message to.
how?: you assign keywords to contacts and it is saved in a database that the program accesses, for example, you blacklist the words "honey" and "baby" from messages you send to SWEETHEART, so the database will look like this:
Sweetheart-(Blacklist: honey, baby)
Honey-(Blacklist: sweetheart,baby)
Baby-(Blacklist: sweetheart,honey)
so when you type the message "Goodnight Honey" then SEND to SWEETHEART, the program evaluates that this message should not be sent to SWEETHEART and WARNS YOU and DOES NOT PROCEED to SEND the message, but if the message is "Goodnight Sweetheart" and to be sent to SWEETHEART, the program evaluate it as valid, then proceeds to SEND the MESSAGE to TMAIL.EXE (the REAL SMS program for final sending)
objective of this program: WORLD PEACE, actually just peaceful and harmonious living, hahaha. because wrong sending of message is eliminated.
other uses of this program?: you can blacklist the word "FAT" from being sent to your very fat friend, because he feels insulted by the word, or you can blacklist "PORK or PIG" to other people who might feel offended by this word.
Men and Women alike would like this program, although some would not admit it, they would really find a program like this very useful. hehehe.
So now the question: Can some programmer do this pls?
I can do programming for PC, but i havent done Pocket PC programming, i think all this program is an INTERFACE with the user by providing TEXT EDITOR, the evaulates the TEXT, then PASS the information to TMAIL.EXE.
CAN SOMEONE DO THIS?
thanks
reserved for flowchart....to help programmer if there are any takers...
Should be possible... I'll be happy to take a look when i have some time..
But ... i'm pretty curious what "inspired" this idea
nice app! and Mr_Gee, maybe simliar inspiration was used in your SMS Password app
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nice app! and Mr_Gee, maybe simliar inspiration was used in your SMS Password app
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haha lol
The strange thing is my girl also looked through my messages the day before
I wrote that application... so it was also a bit of personal gain
This is what i whipped up, please note the sending is not working yet...
give it a go and let me know what you think...
to begin click on menu>app. options>import contacts
rescan when the table is filled hit OK
Next manage blacklist
select the name from the dropdown list, add the blacklisted words
for testing i used pizza, banaan (its dutch)
thats also why there is already some text entered in the message are
(i forgot to remove it when i compiled the app )
Once the blacklist is updated hit save and close
in option screen click save
go to menu>add recipient and select the one you've just updated the blacklist for, next write a text, with or without those words and see what happens.
From the testing i did the logic seems to work...
please note, the blacklisted words need to be written without spaces and seperated by a comma
e.g. hello,mikey,banana
also Pizza is not the same as pizza...
let me know what you think..
On a sidenote, the application also needs a name
i was thinking along the lines of
- Stupid Me (what you usually think after sending the wrong person an sms)
- doh! (tribute to Homer )
- LifeSaver
- LoveSaver
- SMSLifeLine
but if you have a better idea please let me know
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will test it, LIFESAVER could be a good name, but it what it does is save my ARSE really, hehehehe.
what i usually think after sending to the wrong person? "OMIGOSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!" then comes the cold sweat, then the customary call from the recepient then 2 days of explaining, hehehe.
what inspired this idea? clearly... is to help my friend who has a lot of girlfriends...hehehe. he tried calling them all HONEY...didnt work
suggestion, converting all text in blacklist and in message to ALL CAPITAL LETTERS before evalutaion could eliminate the difference between Pianp and piano, also, replacing "," or "." or symbol characters with "<space>," "<space>." or "<space>symbol" could help blacklisted word next to symbols. thanks man.
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what inspired this idea? clearly... is to help my friend who has a lot of girlfriends...hehehe. he tried calling them all HONEY...didnt work
suggestion, converting all text in blacklist and in message to ALL CAPITAL LETTERS before evalutaion could eliminate the difference between Pianp and piano, also, replacing "," or "." or symbol characters with "<space>," "<space>." or "<space>symbol" could help blacklisted word next to symbols. thanks man.
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Thought about it, but i think it would be easier just to write the 2 versions,
currently the application checks for the word, if it doesn't find it it checks both <word>, and <word>.
another problem is that I have the program check <space><word><space>
(thats why there cannot be any spaces in the blacklist)
the reason is that if the blacklisted word is Piano and the spaces aren't there it would flag Pianoman as a blacklisted word
youre right, is a beta program available that already sends? hehehe.
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youre right, is a beta program available that already sends? hehehe.
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not yet, hopefully tomorrow
will be waiting thanks, by the way, what proggy are you using to make this software?
New version, should be working (e.g. sending stuff)
thanks, will be testing this as soon as i find a way to get this on my SD card or phone, im at my work pc and all my tools are left at home. eg. sync cable, bluetooth, card reader, wlan card.
Did you find the time to check it?
yup tested it,
first test, import contacts then manage blacklist - done
insert recipient - done
typed text without a blacklist word - done
send - wont send, send button just reacts but it doesnt do anything.
typed text with a blacklisted word - done
send -no reaction, no sending or warning, button just reacts but doesnt do anything.
thats the result of my test mr. gee. thanks.
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now this is funny, i thought nothing was done when i press send, but BOTH messages with blacklisted word and not were sent to the FIRST person on the contacts list. hehehe. talk about preventing sending to the wrong person, no harm done, but funny.
the first person in my contacts list replied to me with both text that i sent that was supposed to be for an intended recipient. the texts were intended for a person 'L' but was received by the person 'A'.
great idea
sounds very interesting ... but is there a programm for filtering/screening incoming messages aswell?
e.g. you recieve a message from a special person and you don´t want that s.o. hears it but all the other recieved message should ring as usual ...
for incoming filtering, i think there is a program for that already.
check link: http://www.zedsoft.net/
but for outgoing filtering, this is the current idea so far.
thanks for testing Paul,
I'll take a look at the application, not sure whare the issue is..
This is really good idea.... Keep up the good work
I remember that I was out for work and than I sent SMS like: I was cool, thanks.... to my girlfriend (doh!)... And real trouble started
Hi all, did a quick search to find nothing related to the below:
I am having hard time knowing which SMS I have replied, or which email I have forwarded.
The icon in the inbox never changes, only an unread messages becomes read but no indication if it has been replied or forwarded.
If anyone could advice or point me to the right direction please, many thanks.
Did you try HD Tweak?
I think you can set what you want using this app.
SMS / Email Icon.
Hi GoldCoin, I have checked HD Tweak and found that you can get sent notifications although this is not necessary.
What I meant was, when you reply to a SMS the icon in the inbox should change. An example, you can go to your hotmail account and reply to an e-mail or forward and you will notice the envelope gets marked that it has been replied/forwarded too.
I have attached an example of the icons.
I hear you...
I'm looking for the same feature.
I recently changed from 6.1 to 6.5 on my diamond, don't remember the name of that rom. But i actually had the feature.
However i've now changed to a different 6.5 (lower mem. usage), and it doesn't have the feature, i'd be very happy to hear from anyone who knows the solution. Will keep investigating myself though
Ironic, it's a business phone and they forgot the icons. Work around, I have added 2 additional folder in my email inbox: Replied and Review. Once I have replied an e-mail I move the message to Replied folder, that way I can track which ones I have left to reply. Other e-mails that need reviewing goes into the Review folder which I usually access through the PC due to it either being a large excel/presentation or just a forwarded email.
Hmm, you're right.
I could have sworn that my original stock ROM had those little icons. I think it was the same envelope icon with a little green arrow on it.
I'm now using Dutty's 3.7 XT ROM and all the icons (in the windows sms application) are the same.
Does anyone else also remember that icon I described, or am I just imagening things?
One thing I do notice is in the SMS/MMS inbox.
If you have it set up to "threaded view", then in the list of messages in the inbox, it will show a short preview of the last message in the thread. If you wrote the last message, then the preview starts with "Me:". That's a quick way to know if you responded to a given text message.
However, the problem still remains when using emails.
I hope someone can figure this one out.
I had the feature in a ROM cooked by someone from xda-dev, don't remember which one though, I still have the ROM somewhere on my computer, and I'm trying to locate it and figure out who to ask about it.
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I had the feature in a ROM cooked by someone from xda-dev, don't remember which one though, I still have the ROM somewhere on my computer, and I'm trying to locate it and figure out who to ask about it.
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cool!
I posted a question about it in Dutty's 3.7 ROM thread, but I haven't had any responses.
Well, i found out that the rom I was using, was one of Lobsterdave's...
However i also found out, that on my current rom (6.5) if I: open the inbox, press a message to open it, and use the reply soft-key, it will actually work.
A bit teedious, but the only way for now.
I asked in the thread of the rom, and wasn't really supplied with anything useable. Just a suggestion to cook my own rom...
I'm actually going to give a try. Until then I gotta admit... I'm starting to loose hope.
I think maybe the rhodium manilla, is able to flag messages, without opening inbox and so on. But that's not an option for me, as I'm running the old TF3D.
Hey guys and girls,
Ive got a Samsung Omnia (please no booing ) and I need an application to hide text and or mms messages. I work overseas from time to time with my business and my wife and I swap MMS and text messages to each other while I am away. Having a new phone means everyone wants to check it out and i certainly do not want anyone stumbling across any MMS or text messages my wife has sent me ;-)
I have already well and truly searched this forum and the only software I can find is by evolvens and it doesn work.
Im sure it couldnt be to hard for someone to code a little piece of software to hide sms or mms depending on who sent it?
Sorry if ive posted in the wrong section, id be willing to pay for the right app and im sure many others would as well.
Cheers
Dave
hey, i ran into a problem in my last relationship where i ended up dating 2 chicks... so i had their sms' saved using ez secret sms 2.0. basically, you can set it up to run in the background, and you set certain contacts to be received in this program instead of outlook. the program can be named anything you want. so i named it something boring like system priority. you click it, and it brings up a calculator. you put in the code you specified, and hit ok... and it opens your "secret inbox." you can also set it to notify you in some way that you received a text from whoever. i set it as "islanders won!" for one chick, and "rangers lost!" for the other... pretty simple program to use, and it works fairly well.
if you want to hide just the pics, you could always just save the pics and encrypt the folder using resco explorer with a password or something. but if you really want to save the actual sms, this program worked fairly well for me.
I agree - SMS Security is great - I use it on my Diamond with no problems
I don't think it willl work with MMS though. As the post above - save the image from your MMS into your main files in a private folder. Call that folder something odd and I'm sure you friends won't open it. If you really want to protect the images, you can lock just that file with Resco or I use VisCrypt
Thanks hays and ou2mame for your input, I will try ez secret sms,
hays is this the same program you use on your diamond?
Thanks again guys
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Thanks hays and ou2mame for your input, I will try ez secret sms,
hays is this the same program you use on your diamond?
Thanks again guys
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Yes it is. It works 100%
It is easy to switch it on and off reverting back to normal diamond SMS
I've emailed the author to suggest a few minor tweaks and will report back
Features:
*Dials numbers through your Google Voice account and has them ring back to your phone. With this app, your phone will automatically pick up the call once it comes in without your phone ringing.
*Sends and receives SMS messages through your Google Voice account with DATA.
*Integrates with your Windows Mobile contacts, so that you may dial to your contacts that already exist on your phone.
New Features from website download:
*SMS conversation threading
*Visual Voicemail with transcripts
*SPEED
This application works on Windows Mobile 6+ Professional with NETCF3.5 and above phones. The regular version should fit all QVGA-VGA phones, and the square version is pretty self explanatory.
Disclaimer: IT USES THE INTERNET TO DIAL AND SEND SMS, SO IF YOU DON'T HAVE A COMPARABLE DATA PLAN OR WIFI, DON'T USE IT.
The most up to date CAB will be on the OneDialer.com website, and you can get updates on Twitter here, and help on the forum here.Thanks.
-m_drunk
Update: Latest version is here: OneDialer.com
Awesome app - waiting to fix my phone so I can try this latest version. Really love the sms abilities!
this is soooo coool! one question i have for u...how safe is this really? because as u know GV links to your gmail now and whoever gets access to your gv will have access to your gmail!
m_drunk - my hero.
I will post some feedback as soon as possible.
Currently having some fun with it.
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this is soooo coool! one question i have for u...how safe is this really? because as u know GV links to your gmail now and whoever gets access to your gv will have access to your gmail!
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It's as safe as anything else you do on the internet. Like I said, I'm not logging any credential info....it just gets passed to to google with SSL.
I noticed a bug, when you manualy dial from the dial pad you can't dial the number 0, when you dial 0 it comes up as a 9
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I noticed a bug, when you manualy dial from the dial pad you can't dial the number 0, when you dial 0 it comes up as a 9
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Fixed and re-posted the new cab.
Nice stuff.
My specs are:
Omnia running 6.5 - WQVGA screen. I know some of these problems might be related to that.
First, I love the fact that you now have that SMS history. It kicks serious ass - I can use my keyboard with xt9 in it no problem or shapewriter - so great work.
However, I do have a problem when it comes to loading my contacts... for some reason nothing shows up. Before I was able to. So, now if I need to send an SMS I have to go into voicemail find the contact and then sms there.
How is the notification system going?
Is there a way to integrate the phone contacts with one touch - or visa versa?
Anyhow, Kudos... great work.
Looking forward to future releases.
Relay address?
I would like to use this with my T-Mobile ToGo prepaid service. However, their data service is restricted to certain sites. There is a workaround but I need the IP address of your relay in order to make the mod on my phone. Oh, and I need to be able to change the URL of the relay to something with tmobile in the URL. Basically what I would do is create a dyndns entry of tmobile.dyndns.org (or something) and then link that to your relay IP address.
Is there a way to change the relay URL in the application and can I get the IP address of your relay? I think it may work.
Thanks
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However, I do have a problem when it comes to loading my contacts... for some reason nothing shows up. Before I was able to. So, now if I need to send an SMS I have to go into voicemail find the contact and then sms there.
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You know what, I actually have a problem similar that I just noticed. It only loads mine up to the P's. Before it was a data source, and now it's enumerated. I'll work on that....don't know what it going on just yet.
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How is the notification system going?
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Huh? What notification system? Do you want one? Like when a new SMS comes in, you want it to tell you?
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Is there a way to integrate the phone contacts with one touch - or visa versa?
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Not really. What I had before, and what I hope to have again in a little bit is as close as I could get it. I did improve how the contacts worked, but it looks like I broke it too. Hopefully, I'll have the fix out later tonight.
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Is there a way to change the relay URL in the application and can I get the IP address of your relay? I think it may work.
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No, yes, and no it won't.
m_drunk said:
You know what, I actually have a problem similar that I just noticed. It only loads mine up to the P's. Before it was a data source, and now it's enumerated. I'll work on that....don't know what it going on just yet.
Huh? What notification system? Do you want one? Like when a new SMS comes in, you want it to tell you?
Not really. What I had before, and what I hope to have again in a little bit is as close as I could get it. I did improve how the contacts worked, but it looks like I broke it too. Hopefully, I'll have the fix out later tonight.
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The notification system would make this awesome. I thought that you might have been working on one because I think you said that the other thread. Anyhow, it would be great if a notification system could be implemented somehow.
And I guess as far as features go - I know that you were not paying too much attention to aesthetics, but perhaps you could have a button on the dialpad for the SMS history, contact list, or favorites, or something... that way the dialer would just be the main dialer I always use. This all piggy backing on the hopes that you get the contact list to work.
Anyhow, heres to future builds
::cheers::
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I thought that you might have been working on one because I think you said that the other thread. Anyhow, it would be great if a notification system could be implemented somehow.
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I was just messing with you. The notification is already there, I just commented out the messagebox that tells you there's a new message. I did that because I'm trying to figure out how to send the event to the phone instead of a message box, because the MB won't pop up if the app is running in the backround.
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.. but perhaps you could have a button on the dialpad for the SMS history, contact list, or favorites, or something...
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if you don't put in any numbers and hit either the dial button or the sms button, the former takes you to your contacts(and I think I know what's wrong with it, fixing it now), and the latter takes you to SMS history.
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However, I do have a problem when it comes to loading my contacts... for some reason nothing shows up. Before I was able to.
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Not a problem anymore. Fixed the contacts and a couple of other things and posted a new cab.
Great progress on this app (and in such a short time!). Finally just got the latest version installed and am playing around with it.
The buttons appear to be too big - I would guess I can see about a quarter of the icon I'm supposed to be able to see for ech of the numbers and the dial and SMS buttons down below.
When I click over to SMS history I get a "could not retrieve messages." error.
Dialing gets me a "web exception" error.
Im gonna keep playing with it though.
whoops. new build. should work now.
fixed the smsmessage history "error parsing message xml" error. new build posted. also fixed a small contacts error.
Is there a way to add an auto update function?
The screen does not fit properly in SE Xperia X1a. Can you make a version for WVGA?
- TKN
waiting on qvga. would be happy to test.