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I remember hearing that the video camera on the Universal might not be useable for Internet conferencing. Does anyone know if this is correct? Sorry if this is a silly question, but what exactly CAN it be used for?
the whole bell and whistles of 3G or UTMS if you want
was that you could do video phoning
so that would be the purpos of the cam i guess
it's also mentioned in the o2 sales pdf which i thing
was removed because o2 (or was it tmobile) got upset
because their internal doc's ended up here
er.. Universal does NOT have 3G. sorry.
macsoft said:
er.. Universal does NOT have 3G. sorry.
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ohhh yes, it got 3G (UMTS)
It's the first PPC announced with 3G ever :wink:
thats what makes it tasty
no more SLOOOOOOOOW gprs
data speeds
So what about internet conferencing? Will that be possible? I assume that would require some MSN-like software, or would there be a way to send video via the internet?
if the applications were made and the camera supported it's really very early to say anything for surden
all we have right now is
you hearing that it will not work
try asking you where you heard it
no no no
it will be like this
you sit on yer chair with wifi on
and you voice and video chat through msn messenger on yer xda 4
huh?
and why would it be over wifi and not utms ?
i mean apart from the fact that wifi would be cheaper
but not as available as utms
Rudegar said:
if the applications were made and the camera supported it's really very early to say anything for surden
all we have right now is
you hearing that it will not work
try asking you where you heard it
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I hope no one asks me where I heard it... too much information, brain too small :shock:
Dale Coffing says some things about the video conferencing at http://dalecoffing.typepad.com/my_weblog/2005/06/first_impressio.html
Why does he say that he needed a SIM card to check the video conferencing?
If it can't do both it's kind of like saying that you can only store images on device, not on SD.
I could never in my wildest dreams belive that they would implement this and then not make it avalible for the Wifi connection, or any current connection at all other than 3G.
Yes it is 3G, and yes it supports video calls.
Waiting on my 3G SIM card at the moment to test......
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Waiting on my 3G SIM card at the moment to test......
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So you have one there right now?
Whats the FCC ID printed on the label of your device??
I guess what I am trying to ask is whether I can use the Universal to send video via the Internet to a computer using a program like MSN Messenger or Netmeeting? Is there software included that does this, or is it just a matter of waiting and hoping that someone will make a program that does it?
Alternatively, would it be possible to post the video to a website?
I understand that it may be too early to tell, maybe TechGuru can let us know?
Thanks.
May I ask why you want the FCC ID?
I can't really say more than I have already guys, under very tight NDA with O2.
Just keep your eyes peeled on Tekguru!
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May I ask why you want the FCC ID?
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To check the FCC website for any info.
Can't find anything there on the Universal, so either it's more confidential than other HTC devices,
It's under a different FCC granteecode which could be that HTC is spreading risk/sales into different sub companies or they have used a sub contracter to build the Universal,
The data wont be avaliable before launch date (which it is for other devices??)
Video Conferencign
It wont have video conferencing. It will be able to do Video Messaging. There is a big difference. Video messageing you record a 10-15sec clip and send it. The person recieves this video clip, downloads it, and then plays it. Its not actually LIVE streaming though.
thats mms
the other 3g utms phones i've seen offer video phoning
not that good quality and the sound is not 100% synced but
they do offer it
dont see why the universal should not also offer this
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Tekguru said:
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To check the FCC website for any info.
Can't find anything there on the Universal, so either it's more confidential than other HTC devices,
It's under a different FCC granteecode which could be that HTC is spreading risk/sales into different sub companies or they have used a sub contracter to build the Universal,
The data wont be avaliable before launch date (which it is for other devices??)
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The Universal is not on the FCC site under HTC or any other company. Easy to do as the FCC now allows companies to delay publishing of *any* details provided the device is not on sale before the info appears.
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It wont have video conferencing. It will be able to do Video Messaging. There is a big difference. Video messageing you record a 10-15sec clip and send it. The person recieves this video clip, downloads it, and then plays it. Its not actually LIVE streaming though.
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It will do video calls though.
While I don't believe the next gen Mobile Messenger will support video conferencing directly, you can use Microsoft Portrait - http://research.microsoft.com/~jiangli/portrait/ - which does work with Messenger (and the buddy lists). It's also free.
Just saw this article...
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/posttech/2011/01/the_circuit_piracy_plagues_bra.html
Skype bought QIK, does that mean we'll get skype with video chat soon!?!!? If so, that would be AWESOME!
yeah, was announced a couple of days ago. however skype already does video chat and has an app for verizon for new LTE phones, so i don't know what the hold up is
muppetman462 said:
Just saw this article...
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/posttech/2011/01/the_circuit_piracy_plagues_bra.html
Skype bought QIK, does that mean we'll get skype with video chat soon!?!!? If so, that would be AWESOME!
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or do we lose video chat with qik and skype locks it down to one carrier?
probably the case, skype blocked fring from using their protocol(?) earlier when the evo first came out as that was how fring was touting video chat
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or do we lose video chat with qik and skype locks it down to one carrier?
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or do we lose video chat with qik and skype locks it down to one carrier?
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I hope not. There are rumors that Facebook will be integrating Skype as it's video chat solution; that'd pretty much guarantee Skype's ubiquity as the video calling standard.
It seems like there are lots of mentions of the new Verizon Droid Bionic having Skype video chatting but there's no mention of the AT&T Atrix having it. Seeing as how both are Moto's, this is not a good sign. The iPhone 4 on AT&T already has Skype video calling so this may be another Verizon Android exclusive. We'll see though.
I guess I was looking at the whole pc to phone thing...which I think would be pretty damn cool.
You can video chat from PC to phone using ooVoo on the Evo.
Everyone is carrier locking like a bunch of money grubbing pansies so rather than seeing anything awesome we will still be stuck with waisted potential.
Where's NET Neutrality when you need it? Oh thats right: Google sold out on that one.
[throwhissyfitincorner]
Say good bye to Qik. Verizon locked up the Skype video calling.
Google talk should have video chat sooner or later anywhos
Theres also still yahoo video chat, I guess, although I can't wait for google to come out with one.
Uhhh, whats the point of selling a phone with a front facing camera, if the phone doesn't come with the software right off the bat?? LOL
Anyways, is there a work around for this with one of the ROMS?
Thanks!!
theres tango in the market..qik..and you can google the fring beta for the atrix
Blame google for not having a way to video chat, not Motorola for including it on the phone.
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ssmr2t said:
Uhhh, whats the point of selling a phone with a front facing camera, if the phone doesn't come with the software right off the bat?? LOL
Anyways, is there a work around for this with one of the ROMS?
Thanks!!
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Wow, great. Another person posting a new thread without even looking up anything first.
It's been everywhere, even when you go to the Motorola website and look at the Atrix it has a picture of it using Qik.
http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/U...d-Services/Mobile-Phones/Motorola-ATRIX-US-EN
Oh no...boo hoo!!! Another post on a question that's been asked already?!?!? What will come of this? The intrawebz is running low on available space! Quick! Start deleting stuff!!!
Tango works cross platform.
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Oh no...boo hoo!!! Another post on a question that's been asked already?!?!? What will come of this? The intrawebz is running low on available space! Quick! Start deleting stuff!!!
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For one thing - the sarcasm is childish. Two, if anyone actually READ the forum RULES, it says - SEARCH BEFORE POSTING..... Its not a difficult concept. Third, all this does is CLUTTER the forum with crap that doesnt need to be here.
Tango works, but it's unreliable and compare to facetime it's crap. Google needs to make facetime for android.
Google needs to add video support to Google Talk.
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and if I want to call to someone don't have a smartphone....like samsung f480 without that software
So there is no videocall option? are they serious? not everybody have qik or other software...just a usual videocall over 3g
I think its a probleme with android and not the phone it self...
I already have the dezire z and nexus S and they have a front camera but can't do a video call to another phones without this softwares
motorola wrote a crapy motoblur and was unable to wrote a normal videocall app???
p.s. moto had a super videocall option on their phones - they can even record video!
I see video calling as one of those things that would be great to do someday but for now its just another come on gimmick. Without every single phone being able to video call (not video chat) and being compatible with all the other phones out there I see no real reason for it other than a gimmicky thing. Having said that, my wife has the iPhone 4 and she has been after me to get it also so we can video call. Like the droids, the iPhone 4 can video call but only with another iPhone 4. It may be that when they come out with the iPhone 5 this summer that it may not be able to video call with the iPhone 4.
Now, since ATT saw fit to shove an update on my Atrix that essentially locked it up even more I am seriously considering going to the iPhone 4 and make my wife happy so she can see my pretty face when she calls me. She calls me once a day to ask how I am and give me a shopping list. I can see her calling me several times a day now just so she can video call, Oh joy! And if I don't accept her request to video call I can see myself in the dog house for a while.
we really need Skype Video or Google Video Chat ASAP.
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+1
There seems to be a lot of elitism on xda recently. This place used to be more friendly.
What is a usual video call over 3g? Isn't every video call use some sort of software. I mean I know what you mean but aren't those on really old nokia phones pre 3g? Android has quik Iphone has facetime.. windows has.. Who cares?
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Contact fring support and ask for their atrix beta. I tried posting it on another xda thread but people had problems with it...just contact them, they'll provide a link, installed fine for me.
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lol is this a first android device for some of you? ive had 4 ive never seen what you call " just a regular video call " its always been through software apps downloaded from the market.. tango/fring/qik and the others. one app i forget the name, paltalk i think, aloows for video chatrooms. if u want to video call someone who doesnt have a capable device in the first place, well nevermind. just download the apps and make some friends
the most people have a old phones, or don't have a wifi or 3g plan for internet....but they can do a video call for free...like in portugal...call's and video calls are free with all mobiles....like samsung to nokia, htc to other...withou internet plan or wifi connection....soo....
well im am new to the android and i have many questions lol, i think im going to have to read the book on the phone
the sprint lady said i could video chat? where do i go and which one to use?
This should be in q&a section
To put it simply they all suck but I like yahoo
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i use oovoo beta and tang video calling...i like tango the best..tango is for android to android video calling and oovoo is for phone to phone/pc video calling.. the thing about oovoo is the person using a pc to video calling must have the new beta version installed on their pc which every person i know doesnt want to download a beta just to video chat with me...but it work...
I'm holding out for a Skype app.
k0nane said:
I'm holding out for a Skype app.
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Seems like their agreement with Verizon was an exclusive.
Texted while driving
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Seems like their agreement with Verizon was an exclusive.
Texted while driving
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It is most unfortunate - but I'm betting someone will come out with a "compatible" app in due time, if Skype doesn't wake up.
Alternately, I'd take an official Google Talk video chat solution.
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It is most unfortunate - but I'm betting someone will come out with a "compatible" app in due time, if Skype doesn't wake up.
Alternately, I'd take an official Google Talk video chat solution.
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Which surprises me as to why we don't have one yet. It's Google. Where's our video chat?! WHAR!?!
Fring is pretty good, but I'm going to try that "oovoo"
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Fring is pretty good, but I'm going to try that "oovoo"
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I have found that ooVoo works really well.
Hopefully Skype will do something with Qik to get around their exclusivity with Verizon.
Or even better, Google get off their asses and start using the video call framework that's been in the API since at least 2.1. They bought Gizmo5, who was doing SIP video calling using h.264 on my Nokia n810 back in '07. It was essentially what Apple's FaceTime is now.
I've been using Yahoo Messagings video chat because my wife doesn't have a smart phone that does video, so being able to connect with a computeri s a must for me, but the video is sideways. Does OOVOO not have this problem?
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I've been using Yahoo Messagings video chat because my wife doesn't have a smart phone that does video, so being able to connect with a computeri s a must for me, but the video is sideways. Does OOVOO not have this problem?
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ooVoo is the best around. It has a small footprint, displays correctly and works (when it does) flawlessly.
My only problem with it is it's inconsistency making calls. Sometimes it will show the user online; sometimes it won't.
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Which surprises me as to why we don't have one yet. It's Google. Where's our video chat?! WHAR!?!
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Not surprising to me really. While I like a lot of things about Google their 'statup' operation strategy with lots of independently operating teams leads to this.
I say the same thing all the time with official Google apps for Android. Where's my official Google Analytics/AdWords/Docs/Talk app? I know all of these can be addressed in various ways by 3rd party apps or tertiary functionality in other apps. But I'd like to see some official Google apps for some as their official apps usually tend to be good quality.
More than likely video chat on google will be release at Honeycomb and hopefully with some devs help we'll have it for our froyo devices.
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I also prefer yahoo over tango n qik free voip calls on there is also a nice feature
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i've tried a few and like Tango the most. it's just the easiest to use and most streamlined and just works.
+1 Tango! Simple to use, and it streams extremely well on either 3G or 4G (best). I've use Yahoo, Qik, etc. and found those apps can be quirky and probably worked best on Wifi.
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ooVoo is the best around. It has a small footprint, displays correctly and works (when it does) flawlessly.
My only problem with it is it's inconsistency making calls. Sometimes it will show the user online; sometimes it won't.
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My problem with ooVoo was a perpetual attempt to sync, draining my battery. Their support said they'll be removing that from the next release but until then it's staying off my device.
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My problem with ooVoo was a perpetual attempt to sync, draining my battery. Their support said they'll be removing that from the next release but until then it's staying off my device.
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+1, same here, drains battery fast.
I've had that same issue with Oovoo, it's literally killed my battery extremely fast to reach and sync with nothing. But other than that it's the only logical choice for Video chatting until Skype and Verizon stop screwing everyone over with Exclusiveness.
So..
Skype got updated and video call is now supported on some handsets (Desire S, Xperia, Nexus etc)
Nice new interface also..
Anyway some devs can get video working on our tablets ???
Tango works perfectly and its free, you can download it at Market.
Cheers!
meh on Tango. Installed the Thunderbolt version of Skype on my HTC Sensation and video worked fine. I wonder if it would work on the Iconia
Yep, screw tango, skype is allover the world, works on my epic with video but not on iconia (no video).
Skype uses NEON and Tegra 2 doesn't have it.
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Skype uses NEON and Tegra 2 doesn't have it.
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Does this mean Skype video will most likely never work for the Iconia a500?
I'm really going to be disappointed if this is the case... been waiting for video support for a while now.
I, like other, have tried the new skype 2.0.0.47 'hack' by theos0o (v5 i believe) but surely, skype crashes with the 'enable video' checked in the advanced menu.
Anyone?
I have been considering other video app options, only most of my friends and family are skype users... also I have been using skype for many years now, so it sucks their rotten suppprt for us android users...
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I really hate that we have to jump through hoops to have video chat on an Iconia. You see, it's really a selling point to have a front facing camera on a tablet. Automatically you would assume that since it has a front facing camera, it would have some video chat suite included..
lynxznet said:
I really hate that we have to jump through hoops to have video chat on an Iconia. You see, it's really a selling point to have a front facing camera on a tablet. Automatically you would assume that since it has a front facing camera, it would have some video chat suite included..
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It does, and it's included. It's called Google Talk, or on our tablets simply labeled "Talk". You can video chat with anyone on another tablet, pc, or even a mac.
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It does, and it's included. It's called Google Talk, or on our tablets simply labeled "Talk". You can video chat with anyone on another tablet, pc, or even a mac.
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I don't even think my Rom came with Google Talk, lol. Either way, I tried to use some google talk substitute before (can't recollect exactly what it was called), but.. it was quite bad =P
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Tango works perfectly and its free, you can download it at Market.
Cheers!
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Everybody i know uses skype. Do we expect them all to change just so I can use the iconia for vid conferencing?
Tango doesn't work that well... Personally I tested it and it has a lot of audio problems. Anyway that's not the majoir problem with it. Tango is not a pc platform. I want be able to talk to anybody not just to the ones having a smartphone or a tablet. That's why Skype is superior, cause it works on every platform, and that's why it would be great having video support. It's all theoretical of course, cause, due to the fact our a500 mic is the worst mic ever built, to talk to somebody is impossible for the ones not living in the middle of a desert... To use voice I have to yell so loud that I could wake up ppl living 2 miles from my house.
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Everybody i know uses skype. Do we expect them all to change just so I can use the iconia for vid conferencing?
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Well, actually, yes. Skype is not very well supported on most mobile devices, as it is more of a PC app.
In my opinion, the best multi-platform thing going is Google Talk. It works on all of my current devices -- phone, tablet, desktop and notebook PCs. Anyone that I know who won't switch to Google Talk will only get to talk with me when I'm in front of my PC, and since I got the A500, the time spent in front of my PC is lessening every day.
If Skype doesn't quickly start improving support for mobile devices, it's only a matter of time before it starts quickly losing popularity.
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I don't even think my Rom came with Google Talk, lol. Either way, I tried to use some google talk substitute before (can't recollect exactly what it was called), but.. it was quite bad =P
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You didn't think it came with GTalk?!?
Do you really own an A500?!?
A GTalk substitute is not the same as GTalk.
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Well, actually, yes. Skype is not very well supported on most mobile devices, as it is more of a PC app.
In my opinion, the best multi-platform thing going is Google Talk. It works on all of my current devices -- phone, tablet, desktop and notebook PCs. Anyone that I know who won't switch to Google Talk will only get to talk with me when I'm in front of my PC, and since I got the A500, the time spent in front of my PC is lessening every day.
If Skype doesn't quickly start improving support for mobile devices, it's only a matter of time before it starts quickly losing popularity.
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Exactly! And if you have a PC, or Mac, all you have to do is login to your gmail account and you can GTalk video chat right in your browser.
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Except ours with video chat, but GTalk does video chat across all platforms ugh!
How do I explain my grandma to create new Google account so she can use gtalk when she uses skype for at least 10y, her answer is Why.
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How do I explain my grandma to create new Google account so she can use gtalk when she uses skype for at least 10y, her answer is Why.
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You already have your answer. Why? Because Skype does not work on your tab, but Google talk does work. Skype is not a part of the Google family of products.
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How do I explain my grandma to create new Google account so she can use gtalk when she uses skype for at least 10y, her answer is Why.
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Get a new grandma! lol
I too wish Skype would just add video chat capabilities for all devices. It can't be THAT hard. I've got plenty of friends who use Skype, but I have absolutely NONE that use Google Talk and again, none of my friends' friends use it either so it wouldn't be possible to start converting them to Google Talk.
The simple fact is that Skype is way, WAY more popular than Google Talk.
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I too wish Skype would just add video chat capabilities for all devices. It can't be THAT hard. I've got plenty of friends who use Skype, but I have absolutely NONE that use Google Talk and again, none of my friends' friends use it either so it wouldn't be possible to start converting them to Google Talk.
The simple fact is that Skype is way, WAY more popular than Google Talk.
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When I got my tablet, no one used Google talk for VC, but all I had to do was ask, n it was easy cuz if you have a gmail account, which almost everyone does, either by choice or by Droid, you can chat. You don't need another account, another program, anything! And for the (very!) Few I come across that 1) want to VC with me, 2) have a Skype, 3) don't have a Droid, and 4) somehow missed the gmail revolution, I convert them. They get to talk to me, AND get better email. Win-win. N seriously, how often do you come across someone that fullfills all of those criteria? Cuz if they are missing any of those 4, you're set