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Now I've read a lot here and I've tried Quicktime 6, mpegable ds decoder and 3ivx directshow filters.
They all work more or less (i like 3ivx best), but NONE of them plays the audio.
However the camera application on the ppc can playback video and audio.
What the hell is this? And I dont like Motion JPEG avi cause it's too big.
Converting also seems to be no option: I tried Riverpast Video Cleaner and a heavily upgraded virtual dub mod, but they can't even read the video. Quicktime Pro 6 can at least import the video, but no audio again.
Any ideas?
If someone wants to do more research, here are two good sites concerning mp4 players:
http://www.audiocoding.com/wiki/index.php?page=Software+Audio+Players+for+Windows
http://www.rarewares.org/
I've now tried WinMPG Video Convert and the Philips Platform4 Player - only video, as always.
I suppose the audio codec used is not the mp4 AAC LC (low complexity) codec because that's the most common one which can be played back by any mp4 player.
btw, mp4UI shows me a video and a audio stream (like most othre applications), but I can only export the video file and there is no information on the audio codec used, seems to be unknow to any program.
I tried several recorded mp4 files, always the same, and they DO playback video+audio on the ppc.
I'm sticking with MJPEG Avi
That's about 100 kB/s so I can hardly record more than 5 min. But hey who needs to? At least it can be converted by quicktime uncompressed avi export in no time, and then encoded to whatever you want.
More annoying is the fact that I need to remember getting the file off the pocket pc pretty soon because otherwise I will run out of space. I'd prefer taking a series of snapshots and carrying them around with me.
Well copying the file via USB will take almost as long as the video duration is, and a storage card can't be used because it decreases the recording frame rate significantly.
Motion MJPEG also seems to catch more redundant frames (the same picture in two frames) than mp4, but it's still okay.
cant you just record to your device and then copy the recording to your sd card manualy ?
Yes I thought of that, it would approximately take the same time as the video duration is. If you really need to do another recording while on the go, you can do that to free your memory.
btw, I chose divx5 250 kbit CBR + mp3 in virtual dub, only took a few seconds to encode a minute and now I've got a file that can be played back equally well on both machines. I'm using beta player for pocketpc, and it plays fine in fullscreen using the ati imageon chipset. File size is comparable to choosing the mp4 format in the first place.
It works now
mp4 video+audio works with quicktime!! hooray!!
Quicktime always told me it couldn't find the software needed on the server.
But when I opened the mp4 file today, the automatic download of the audio codec succeded.
Even with disabled firewall qt couldn't download the software before. Strange.
And I can export it to uncompressed avi if I need to edit the file with other programs.
I know this has probably been listed in the past, but what MP3/Media Player do you use?
If possible, include a link to where it can be downloaded.
The ultimate, The Core Media Player
http://tcmpc.corecodec.org
For winamp lovers,
http://www.pocketmind.com
it's actually...
http://tcpmp.corecodec.org/about
Dave
Complete with Today screen plugin, the wonderful MortPlayer
http://www.sto-helit.de/modules/edito/content.php?id=7&sel_lang=english
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Is there any player with the balance meter (left/right)?
Sure TCPMP is the best at playing all sort of media
When I can't see a video on my pc, 80% chances are that TCPMP will read it :lol:
And it has a lot of features eg. the speed of playback, equalizer.. With the last one u can even boost up the loudspeaker volume!
Finally, it's rather simple to use: with hotkeys for everything u can do anything...
Only drawback is poor quality of 3gp playback and no midi at all: but I'm using album app for these :wink:
Saluti, MocciJ
PocketMusic for mp3's (skinable and has a nice equaliser function) and BetaPlayer for video (simple and I convert everything to DivX and it handles them with no probs)
Are yo able to playback fullsize Divx files smoothly in TCPMP.
I have a Magician and if I stream 720x480 divx video over wifi on playback from a SD card the video will always stutter. I get about 10s and then it pauses. Seems like a buffer issue.
Are there any tweaks for TCPMP or will overclocking the Magician help?
TCPMP for videos and MortPlayer for MP3s with my A2DP headset.
Gsplayer by greensoftware [freeware]. Turns screen automatic off, functions can be mapped to hardware buttons.
Mujja said:
Are yo able to playback fullsize Divx files smoothly in TCPMP.
I have a Magician and if I stream 720x480 divx video over wifi on playback from a SD card the video will always stutter. I get about 10s and then it pauses. Seems like a buffer issue.
Are there any tweaks for TCPMP or will overclocking the Magician help?
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full sized 700mb divx movie files play fine running from SD on my magician (using tcpmp)
But ill normally resize and reencode, but it is handy being able to run stuff without encoding first, if theres not time to do etc.
I'm currently with the original ROM with the Orange HTC HD, and using the TCPMP 0.72 and Pvplayer 05.20.25.01.
Unfortunately after I convert my AVI files by MP4forHD, the playback becomes laggy. I convert the file into 800*480(HD) resolution, video Codec is X264 1Pass and Quality to be Normal (800kbps). I tried to reduce the audio bitrate to 32kbps as well, but there's no obvious improvement spotted.
Does this means HTC HD is not capable of playing back the video in this resolution, or I've chosen an inappropariate video player?
Many thanks
try playing in wmp or album there should be no lag
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I've been using it for over a week now - primarily for watching Movies that are in their original DivX format using CorePlayer 1.2.5 Build 4506....
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i am pretty sure that bitrate is too high for cpu, so try with album/wmp
Indeed that's true, WMP works fine with Normal Quality. But it's a pity Coreplayer can't perform properly, at least it is the multi-functional player comparing with WMP.
Thank you all guys for answering. This does help.
Did you install sd tune up cab?
have a search for htc encoder on this site.
I use htc encoder and windows media player and the DVD play back is fantastic
I have just normal Transcend microSD 8Gb.
Here is benchmark:
write 758.61 KB/s
read 6426.78 KB/s
I think that this KB/s=kb/s, read speed is about 6MB/s.
So phone can read all movie in about 2 min.
Sorry, but I don't know what SD card have with this, that there is no 2D drivers??? Or you people using some really cheap SD cards?
For MP4 playback you must use WMP or album, I prefer WMP. Because only this 2 programs are capable of hardware encoding. But just MP4.
CorePlayer 1.2, 1.3 is a some kind of capable to encode divx/xvid, but not MP4. You can also watch HD videos on Youtube, but just with Youtube player from HTC.
I am trying to play downloaded DVD movies on my Rhodium and i presume its using Windows Media, the playback is sluggish and the sound is not in sync with the playback, is this the best i can expect after spending £500 or is it just that i need another media player? Shooting video and playing back seems fine the problem is when i convert a DVD the playback is pretty appalling, ANY HELP FROM ANYONE WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED.
tHANKS
Allan
What format are the movies you're downloading? What are you using to convert them? Are the downloaded movies in sync? How about the converted ones? If you play them on your PC, are they synced up?
Check the resolution of the movie. Make sure it is 640x480. You don;t want to have the CPU doing all the resizing as the movie is being played. Some format may be better than the others too. And try with WMP. I believe it has hardware acceleration built-in.
Still I would love the phone be able to play HD 720p videos natively. Maybe one day.
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Still I would love the phone be able to play HD 720p videos natively. Maybe one day.
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amen! lol anyways ya you just arent formating the dvd'rips very well then cause i have a few full dvd's playing in perfect quality and timing on WMP and that's not even the best player to use
Use core player, it works fine with most videos (far better than the standard app)
Vio
try VIO Video Converter for your DVD conversions and select full quality. The file sizes are large but the quality and audio/video sync is superb.
Core Player is great and I consider 640x384 to be the optimal resolution for playback. Get a good video encoder and experiment for yourself though.
Use Super C to resize the video and then coreplayer to play it, no problems at all!
I can play 800x480 AVC @1.2Mbit/s through HTC Media Player smoothly. In Coreplayer I can't even get 1 FPS out of that file. I use MEGUI with the Zune settings to convert the video from a Bluray format.
As far as I can see, there isn't a good option right now, unless someone can say/prove otherwise.
For example: I have an AVI encoded with Divx 5 636*346, avg bitrtate 900, mp3 stereo. I can get this to play smoothly on much older hardware (a Palm TX), without conversion, via TCMPC.
So, WHY can't I find a player that works smoothly on the TP2?
I've read that the TP2 can handle avg bitrates up to 1,400 kbps; and it doesn't make sense to re-encode at a screen res lower than the bloody device.
Does anyone have any thoughts?
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I can play 800x480 AVC @1.2Mbit/s through HTC Media Player smoothly. In Coreplayer I can't even get 1 FPS out of that file. I use MEGUI with the Zune settings to convert the video from a Bluray format.
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What is the HTC Media Player? Anyonehave a cab?
barneypooch said:
As far as I can see, there isn't a good option right now, unless someone can say/prove otherwise.
For example: I have an AVI encoded with Divx 5 636*346, avg bitrtate 900, mp3 stereo. I can get this to play smoothly on much older hardware (a Palm TX), without conversion, via TCMPC.
So, WHY can't I find a player that works smoothly on the TP2?
I've read that the TP2 can handle avg bitrates up to 1,400 kbps; and it doesn't make sense to re-encode at a screen res lower than the bloody device.
Does anyone have any thoughts?
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What I don't understand is that Coreplayer on my device has a verry low FPS. BUT when selecting the Benchmark function, the movie will play beautiful... (Only the movie and sound synchronisation is not so best...)
Anybody a working solution? On a different forum, i've read that HTC Album has the best hardware acceleration. They adviced to play movies with thc album (In the mp4 format)
Greets, Ranney
tech_e said:
What is the HTC Media Player? Anyonehave a cab?
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It come on the device. HTC Album
i just can't imagine that there is no possibility to play normal divx/avi movies on my tp2 .. just like on pc.
i don't want to waste my time converting all videos just to watch it on tp2 ..
same prob with subtitle support .. can't be that difficult ?! only tcpmp can play them with an extension .. (and that video playback isn't smooth!)
http://kinoma.com/
give that a try and let us know if you are happy or not please
kinoma doesn't support divx/xvid
i use a free program called handbrake and my settings are 480x320,mpeg4,480 biterate-Audio,AAC 160 biterate. i actually used these settings on my G1 originally but when i got my TP2 i tried a few of the movies out since they wur already on my memory card and they all play and sound great on the default player.
im using coreplayer and ive not had a problem playing any movie downloaded from the net. anything from 700mb to 1.6mb dvd rips, ive watched probably 60 odd and they've all played perfectly. never had to convert anything.
coreplayer is definetely the best thing to get supports pretty much everything
i only use the album player for converted hd content (using the converter someone made on this site) = that plays excellent as well, and looks better (i might be ight in thinking album uses hardward acceleration as well)
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What I don't understand is that Coreplayer on my device has a verry low FPS. BUT when selecting the Benchmark function, the movie will play beautiful... (Only the movie and sound synchronisation is not so best...)
Anybody a working solution? On a different forum, i've read that HTC Album has the best hardware acceleration. They adviced to play movies with thc album (In the mp4 format)
Greets, Ranney
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Menu > Tools > Preferences > Select Page > Video
Change "Video Output" to GDI if the player is choppy/crappy. On my Telus (CDMA) Touch Pro 2 the QTv Display works fine but I know other HTC devices have required GDI instead.
The playback on this phone sucks big time! Not sure what it is .... coreplayer GDI does not work and Tcpmp with all kinds of tweaks settings does not play videos smooth at all. You can tell there are frame skipping in my phone. My wing plays videos better than this. GEEZ!!!!!
What program is used to play the Transformer movies? It does not have much options like CorePlayer but it did a good job of playing the Transformer movies.
Also, if I want to use it to play other movies that I encode using this same player, where do I put these new movies. Do I put it in the folder called "Transformers" in the SD card? But then how do the Transformer movies have their own icon? Still trying to figure this out.
It's the HTC video player, which is basically a reskinned Windows Media Player.
The Transformers icon is there because the TMoUS HD2 ships with a launcher app (which is basically just a list of two links, tapping on them opens the file).
The launcher app is not customizable, though it should be pretty trivial to build something similar.
Which would be a better player? The default one on the HD2 or CorePlayer (the latest version). I know that CorePlayer is not free but I just like to know which one performs better. CorePlayer can play .mkv files so that is a good advantage.
The HTC player (WMP) works well for some file types. I have CorePlayer installed for any odd media types, but the UI is pretty poor. Also give TCPMP a shot (it's the evolution of the open-source predecessor of CorePlayer, and now it has a new touch-friendly UI too).
Though to be honest I've personally sort of given up on high-quality video playback on the HD2-- the performance is just so inconsistent. Even the Transformers movies it comes with (which I've since transferred to my Class 6 16GB MicroSD) don't always play smoothly and sometimes stutter or slow down when I'm demoing them, so the only safe settings are lower quality, at which point it becomes useless because I don't have time to transcode videos (that's partially the point of having such a powerful processor, but it seems WM can drag down even a 1 GHz Snapdragon).
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The HTC player (WMP) works well for some file types. I have CorePlayer installed for any odd media types, but the UI is pretty poor. Also give TCPMP a shot (it's the evolution of the open-source predecessor of CorePlayer, and now it has a new touch-friendly UI too).
Though to be honest I've personally sort of given up on high-quality video playback on the HD2-- the performance is just so inconsistent. Even the Transformers movies it comes with (which I've since transferred to my Class 6 16GB MicroSD) don't always play smoothly and often stutter or slow down when I'm demoing them, so the only safe settings are lower quality, at which point it becomes useless because I don't have time to transcode videos (that's partially the point of having such a powerful processor, but it seems WM can drag down even a 1 GHz Snapdragon).
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hmmmmm.... i dont know but transformers plays very smoothe on my hd2 and also i recommend latest TCPMP with custom setup.i also convert dvds to mp4 in my pc then sync it to my hd2 and it plays on windows mobile player and and TCPMP,but doesnt play well on my coreplayer though.
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hmmmmm.... i dont know but transformers plays very smoothe on my hd2 and also i recommend latest TCPMP with custom setup.i also convert dvds to mp4 in my pc then sync it to my hd2 and it plays on windows mobile player and and TCPMP,but doesnt play well on my coreplayer though.
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They generally work fine if I soft-reset and make sure Wifi, etc. are off and nothing else is running, but otherwise in normal operation, where I might have email open and 3G + Wifi enabled in the background, I often get less than perfect playback. Usually still watchable, but hardly impressive (and definitely not something I'd show to iPhone 3GS-toting friends, who instantly notice the frame drops and such).
amb9800 said:
It's the HTC video player, which is basically a reskinned Windows Media Player.
The Transformers icon is there because the TMoUS HD2 ships with a launcher app (which is basically just a list of two links, tapping on them opens the file).
The launcher app is not customizable, though it should be pretty trivial to build something similar.
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The HTC Streaming Media Player is not a skinned WMP. Its specifically developed by HTC to take advantage of the hardware acceleration for MP4 files with the Snapdragon processor. The video performance is far superior to Coreplayer or WMP.
You can convert your video files to take advantage of this hardware acceleration by using Touch HD Encoder (search
i recently synced mp4 movies to the "transformers file" and it plays as the same high quality as the transformers does.
GHOST99K said:
i recently synced mp4 movies to the "transformers file" and it plays as the same high quality as the transformers does.
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It's pretty clear (to me, at least) that the native Video Player is the best player between the 3.
Video Player plays very limited file types, which is a minus. re-encoding video files to MP4 takes long time, and file size goes up, if you want to keep the same 'high-quality' video.
CorePlayer does a great job playing various file types, so it's easier to view movies, that's for sure.
being a video editor by trade, i have no problem re-encoding video prior to transferring media to my phone as i have the hardware and software to do so painlessly. starting from a high quality/high resolution video file and encoding down to an mp4 correctly yields in smaller filesize while retaining amazing quality. i've recently encoded a full 1080p 25min video (which started at 4gb) down to an HTC Video Player friendly video that was a hair over 300mb...with nearly no difference in quality. it plays perfectly in the native player...no problems whatsoever. i've considered doing a write up for the boards and may do so if i have time, but if you have any questions, fire away.
Transformers movies path
Hi, can someone write the exact path of the Transformers path in the SD card, so the application luncher can find them.
Thanks in advance
CorePlayer
fnuna said:
Hi, can someone write the exact path of the Transformers path in the SD card, so the application luncher can find them.
Thanks in advance
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Just make a folder named 'Transformers' on your memory card, install the files to it and it will find it.
Transformers looks wonderful, but converting is such a chore with getting all the settings right and such. Of course, I would want the exact conversion process that was used on Transformers. Coreplayer is the best for me. No converting, just play and the quality is very high. Plus, best music player and streams Youtube videos. It's the only app I've paid nearly $30.00 for and would do it again. I must have it.
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being a video editor by trade, i have no problem re-encoding video prior to transferring media to my phone as i have the hardware and software to do so painlessly. starting from a high quality/high resolution video file and encoding down to an mp4 correctly yields in smaller filesize while retaining amazing quality. i've recently encoded a full 1080p 25min video (which started at 4gb) down to an HTC Video Player friendly video that was a hair over 300mb...with nearly no difference in quality. it plays perfectly in the native player...no problems whatsoever. i've considered doing a write up for the boards and may do so if i have time, but if you have any questions, fire away.
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Yes I would love to see a write up, the prob Im having is I have been trying different programs & settings for burning my dvd's to my phone and none have looked as good as the Transformers movies. Any insight would be appreciated