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AT&T A.30.07 ROM and Volume on phone

So, I'm experiencing what everybody else is with this ROM. That initial volume level starts out soft and gradually increases to the max that I have it set to. Some have stated they like this and that's fine. But, I HATE it :evil: . I can never hear my phone ring anymore if it's in my pocket. Has anybody found a possible registry key or setting somewhere to turn this off?
And if any AT&T folks are listening.. I'd like a setting in the volume area to turn this off or on.

Phone Profile
Have you check under phone profiles... Ascending Ring change to Standard Ring
Dustoff

I don't have a phone profile, or i should say i don't see any where for that option. In the phone settings area the Ring Type is set for Ring. There is an option for "Increasing Ring" but that's even worse than it is already. I don't think this is what I'm looking for.

Since the WM2003 upgrade on my SX56, 've noticed issues with the speakerphone volume. I can barely hear it in fact. Any thoughts on this one?

Fiddled around with the volume setting, moved it up and down, and the now the volume issue seems resolved. Can't say for sure if that's what resolved it, but it's fine now.

I'm experiencing the same problem with the AT&T rom.. I'm going to take a look around in the registry later on... before I go installing any apps

Well I have taken a look @ the processes running and can't see anything obvious that would be doing the volume thing..
So I have had a poke about in the registry and have found a section with sound profiles and it has an attenuation property, I have tried adjusting this, and deleting it but still no good
Also there is an entry in the registry called Hack and mentioned Vol in the string... but it didn't make any difference when I deleted that either :roll:
If anyone thats a bit more acomplished than myself with the PPC Phone could take a look and find a solution to this, i'm sure many users would appreciated it

Has anyone figured out how to make the volume level constant yet?

Any solutions to get the volume working well on A.30.09 ENG yet?

Nope. I just put my phone volume on next to the top setting and the system volume two levels below it. Works fine then. As long as the system volume is two levels below it will not graduate the sound.

valheru said:
Nope. I just put my phone volume on next to the top setting and the system volume two levels below it. Works fine then. As long as the system volume is two levels below it will not graduate the sound.
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Another thing try ur Reminder set an Alarm you'll notice that you cannot change the Alarm1 ringtone thus the sound stays low ..I tried many things in the registry and no luck as well I wish would some1 help us to resolve this Issue, but!! I made contacts with att's support ,I told them about this problem thus I'm not the only one who's experiencing this, lots of ppl sees this ennoying , I hope they would help here...

ATT Rom Sound Limiting

Ok, I found a hint at the solution to the sound limiting thing on the AT&T New Rom.....
Going in to the Registry:
Code:
My Registry
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER]ControlPanel/SoundCategories/...
Under: Feedback to RingPreview there is this little line called InitVol I believe it has something to do with this line as if I take it out, I get almost no sound... and in some spots it will simply place itself back in if removed!
I will continue to tinker with this! :twisted:
MrDollyMaker

I just discovered something and would like someone to confirm this one...... When you click on the speaker, if you turn the volume down on the PocketPC side and leave the phone up to full, the increasing ring goes away. If you put the volume back up on the PocketPC side, the increasing ring begins to start again....
Anyone confirm this odd bit? :shock:
MrDollyMaker

you are right
I can!

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vIERJa said:
I can!
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Glad to know it's not just me.... found a similar thread on AT&T's support forums.... AT&T said to use WAV files and they will play loud... :shock:
Granted. Am I not using a WAV file for my ringer? (double checks) YEP.... must be me, not AT&T! NOT!
MrDollyMaker

Mental note:
Must be a programed line due to the Volume Attinuation is based from the volume setting on the PocketPC side..... Now to figure out where this code is to try and remove or dissable it!
Example (But not exactly writen like this):
Code:
VolumeLimiting=(((Volume/2)*InitVol)*AttinuationCategory)
Granted, maybe it could be considering all are actual settings in the Registry except VolumeLimiting... :shock:
MrDollyMaker

Ring volume
Ok. I too can confirm that this works. BUT.... Can you also confirm that it now only RINGS ONCE and then the rest is silent.

Re: Ring volume
keithke said:
Ok. I too can confirm that this works. BUT.... Can you also confirm that it now only RINGS ONCE and then the rest is silent.
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Hmmm, haven't had that problem. I solved the issue with the alarms and reminders being silent by using BatteryPack2004 v5.2. It has a feature called Power Alert that when turned on can up the reminder and alarm volume to MAX even if you have it muted!
Now I can have the PDA volume off and ringer up full and still hear my alarms and reminders. (just can't hear the notices) If I play MP3s or WMA files through media player I have to turn it up of course.....
Still cant' find the fix for this yet. :evil:
MrDollyMaker

I'm using a WAV file though... I'll check weather that has an effect or not..

Hi everyone...
I just upgraded mine to WM2003 from O2 XDA.
I know that WM2003 phone edition allows MIDI files as ringtones, all you have to do is copy the midi files you want to \windows\rings folder and you should be able to pick the ring from option.
however, when I selected the midi file ringtone from the option, IT CANNOT PLAY! :roll:
is this just me or everyone has the same problem?
let me know... thanks heaps...

Has anyone found a solution to this problem yet? This "feature" REALLY sucks, and makes my Voice Command not nearly as useful as it could be.

kripes said:
Has anyone found a solution to this problem yet? This "feature" REALLY sucks, and makes my Voice Command not nearly as useful as it could be.
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Unfortunatly no.... I'm now waiting on the new T-Mobile rom that is due out soon. Talked with some of the techs there. They claim that the delay in release is due to some querks with a new driver for the battery that increases the battery life by almost 2 hours in PDA mode along with a querk with the sound not working right. :lol:
They did say expect it some time in March as long as they at least solve the sound problem.
MrDollyMaker

I actually think AT&T or MS made a simple but fatal mistake in either wavedev.dll or PhonePH.dll or possibly setawsnotifyreg.exe.
I think what they aimed for was to have the ringer start at the PDA level and then slowly rise to the Phone level if they differed. Then someone managed to get it all wrong and made it start at MaxPDA-PDA or possibly Phone-PDA instead of Min(PDA,Phone).
I've tried to find a way to replace wavedev.dll and PhonePH.dll to try my theory, but haven't yet found a way. I'll do a little messing around with the registry settings as well...

bamse said:
I actually think AT&T or MS made a simple but fatal mistake in either wavedev.dll or PhonePH.dll or possibly setawsnotifyreg.exe.
I think what they aimed for was to have the ringer start at the PDA level and then slowly rise to the Phone level if they differed. Then someone managed to get it all wrong and made it start at MaxPDA-PDA or possibly Phone-PDA instead of Min(PDA,Phone).
I've tried to find a way to replace wavedev.dll and PhonePH.dll to try my theory, but haven't yet found a way. I'll do a little messing around with the registry settings as well...
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I downloaded and installed the New T-Mobile rom.... Fixed the audio problem and several other minor things. No Problems So Far!
MrDollyMaker 8)

MrDollyMaker said:
bamse said:
I actually think AT&T or MS made a simple but fatal mistake in either wavedev.dll or PhonePH.dll or possibly setawsnotifyreg.exe.
I think what they aimed for was to have the ringer start at the PDA level and then slowly rise to the Phone level if they differed. Then someone managed to get it all wrong and made it start at MaxPDA-PDA or possibly Phone-PDA instead of Min(PDA,Phone).
I've tried to find a way to replace wavedev.dll and PhonePH.dll to try my theory, but haven't yet found a way. I'll do a little messing around with the registry settings as well...
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I downloaded and installed the New T-Mobile rom.... Fixed the audio problem and several other minor things. No Problems So Far!
MrDollyMaker 8)
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Been there, done that.
Be aware that the T-Mobile rom has an even worse bug than the increasing ring. It starts up by itself.
Suddenly, for no apparent reason, the device is ON. Pressing the power button will make it go to sleep again, but sometimes it goes on again just seconds later. As things get worse while moving, it could have something to do with signal strength or handover.
Walking through the output from ssnap it seems that the AT&T rom is actually newer than the T-Mobile. The date of most of the files in 4.01.16 is back in September, while most of the files in the AT&T rom is from mid December.
After having enough of accidental phone calls and calendar items because the phone turned itself on in my pocket I will try the AT&T rom for a while and see if it's any better. And actually, the volume is not that big a deal if you use something like spb pocket+. Just set the PDA volume to the lowest or next lowest setting, the phone to the next highest or highest, set the repeating alarm function in pocket+ to use full or increasing volume, and voila!

For the record, some of us using the final T-Mo ROM are not experiencing the spontaneous activations bug.
-nerrdo

nerrdo said:
For the record, some of us using the final T-Mo ROM are not experiencing the spontaneous activations bug.
-nerrdo
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Havent had that bug either....
MrDollyMaker

Hopefully someone will figure out a hack to fix this sound bug.

valheru said:
Hopefully someone will figure out a hack to fix this sound bug.
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Download the Offical T-Mobil upgrade. No sound issues or any problems I can find.
MrDollyMaker

Thanks. I have the ROM however they fill it with so much bloatware I can't squish all of my proggies in there. I was hoping for a hack or something. I did increase the Initvol from 2 to 4 which stops the low volume at first however it does get quite loud. Maybe I'll install and see anyway. Nothing to lose but time I guess. Thanks again.

Random On and crescendo
HI,
has anyone found a solution to either of the above mentioned problems? The Volume issue is a problem when using navigation. I tried intalling T-Mob but get random on problem.

Low Speaker Volume

Is there a way (registry hack, any other program) to increase the volume of the speaker during the phone conversation? I also own a Hermes and the speaker volume of the Trinity is so low compared to it that I can sometimes barely hear the other party. Any help?

onurd said:
Is there a way (registry hack, any other program) to increase the volume of the speaker during the phone conversation? I also own a Hermes and the speaker volume of the Trinity is so low compared to it that I can sometimes barely hear the other party. Any help?
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Are you aware that turning the wheel on the left side you can change the volume while in a phone call?

anonimo said:
Are you aware that turning the wheel on the left side you can change the volume while in a phone call?
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I have the exact same problem. When I am in a public place and when there is some noise around, I hardly hear the person I am speaking to. Even when I turn the wheel on the left to maximum
I have spent a lot of time looking for a solution but I have just seen that for some qtek devices, there is the key [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\AUDIOGAIN] with values EARPHONE_UPLINK_VOLUME and RECEIVE_UPLINK_VOLUME, that allow to modify the max output level of the speaker. But I didn't find that key in the trinity

Even if I turn the scroll wheel all the way up, the volume is too low.
The audiogain registry key (although it doesn't exist in trinity's registry) is actually to improve the sound quality of the microphone and not the volume of the phone.
When I first make a call, when I hear the first ring, it is actually louder but then from the second ring on, the volume decreases at least by 25%.
Anybody with any ideas?

anyone figured how to increase call volume yet?

I would also appreciate a solution to improve the Speakerphone volume.

I would appreciate any fix to increase the volume of anything!
The included stereo headphones are completely useless! My god, why did they even put a volume dial on the headphones? I can barely hear anything with this crap phone...
A pity considering every other features works just perfectly.

ive got the same problem, before the bass fix, the volume was high but with a really unstable and bad sound... after the fix, there is kind of better sound but in phone calls the volume is low.. i really start hating this device......

I've been using my new p3600 for two weeks now, and this low speaker volume issue is killing me. I've been a Noia user for years, and the difference in sound quality during normal calls is simply unacceptable. The p3600 has so many awesome capabilities for such a small phone, but when it comes to the most basic function, I'm quite disappointed with.
I would also appreciate a fix to improve the quality of the speaker.
Cheers

i can say that this is not the only problem, there are so many others that i stopped thinking of this one... im going for a final hard reset now.. im really tired...im sick of it.....

Someone has an idea ?

Has anyone found away to increase the incall volume yet ???

Someone posted this registry hack elsewhere (use at your own risk of course)
1. HKEY_CURRENT_USER
2. ControlPanel
3. SoundCategories
4. InCall
5. InitVol
6. Change the DWORD value to 6 (Default = 2)
7. Click Done
Wait approx 10-15 seconds before testing.
PS. If the registry key or value doesn't exist, you can always try creating it.

Has anyone tried this??
What was the outcome??

ausi said:
Has anyone tried this??
What was the outcome??
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Yes i tried it and it never worked for me ...

i can also confirm that this does NOT work on the trinity, anyone else have any bright ideas...

Ah ha...
I just bought Dopod D810(HTC Trinity) for my wife yesterday, and just now she complained to me about this "low on call volume" to me. And since I'm the one recommended her the phone I have to responsible. LoL.
But despite this problem, all of other features are flawless, complete, with excellent case design. Kudos to HTC!!
Btw, this is kind of dejavu for me since it also happened on my Eten M600 back then. This issue can only be solved on driver level, i.e: patch the RILgsm.dll, or include this patched driver in newly cooked ROM.
On which, I don't have the necessary skills to do that... -sigh-
Any expert users can help us???

schizo said:
Ah ha...
I just bought Dopod D810(HTC Trinity) for my wife yesterday, and just now she complained to me about this "low on call volume" to me. And since I'm the one recommended her the phone I have to responsible. LoL.
But despite this problem, all of other features are flawless, complete, with excellent case design. Kudos to HTC!!
Btw, this is kind of dejavu for me since it also happened on my Eten M600 back then. This issue can only be solved on driver level, i.e: patch the RILgsm.dll, or include this patched driver in newly cooked ROM.
On which, I don't have the necessary skills to do that... -sigh-
Any expert users can help us???
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hi this link doenst work "include this patched driver in newly cooked ROM"

zohaer21 said:
hi this link doenst work "include this patched driver in newly cooked ROM"
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Sorry zohaer... my post does not contain hyperlink.
I just underlined it to stress up some points...

push!
also need a solution

Registry Edit for In-call volume?

The in-call volume on my Wing isn't cutting it for me. I do a lot of work outside and it's difficult to hear with all the background noise from cars and construction etc..[cons of living in a big city]
I searched the forum but didn't find anything specific to the Herald. I tried the other registery edits but they didn't seem to have any effect.

bump anyone??

BUMP!-----

Ok, try this tweak to increase the phone's In-Call volume: Using a registry editor (like PHM RegEdit), navigate to
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Notifications\Shell Overrides\​Find the SavedInCallVolume value, and open it.
Switch the base to Hexadecimal
Change the Value data to "FFFFFFFF" (eight capital F's)
Restart your phone (by holding down the power button). Now when it boots, your in-call volume should be louder. Tell me if you think it worked!!!

Hi. It didn't work for my P4351. But thank U.

lewrydiboys said:
Hi. It didn't work for my P4351. But thank U.
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The registry that I just posted right above yours works fine on the Wing, which your phone basically is, I think. But, it can vary from which ROM you are using.

any suggestion for decreasing the volume. Waayyy too loud on my Touch Pro.

fredcatsmommy said:
any suggestion for decreasing the volume. Waayyy too loud on my Touch Pro.
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When talking on the phone, tell the person on the other end that you'll be right back. Now, turn your phone so that you can see the left side. Press down on that volume slider a few times. Bam, you got your volume down!

And try posting in the Touch Pro forum next time.

tonyc0642 said:
And try posting in the Touch Pro forum next time.
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and that would make a difference because??? GAL

fredcatsmommy said:
and that would make a difference because??? GAL
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Well, first of all, this is not the Touch Pro forum, though I thought that one is fairly obvious. I will concede that a registry edit for the volume is very common between Windows Mobile devices, but if I were to post Wing issues in the Touch Pro forum, I would be flamed almost immediately. Sorry if I came off as a **** earlier, but there are different forums for a reason. If everyone just posted common problems between devices wherever they felt like, pretty soon everything would be unorganized. Then when I wanted to search the Herald forum for something specific, results would come up with other phone's problems.

Cab to lower the incall volume?

Would anybody please try to make a cab that would somehow lower the incall volume?
I know there are many of us that "hate" our Leo for damaging our ears! Please help us fix that!
Don't point us to HTC support! Have been trying that for about 7 weeks now, with no real result but pathetic fixes.
regards,
GG

First off I will be moving this thread to general when I have finished responding.
Secondly, can you explain your problem a little better please. If you really mean turn the in-call volume down, ie NOT when the phone is in speakerphone mode, you can do this now by simply holding the down volume key while in the call to make it happen.
If this is not what you mean then have another go at explaining yourself.
Cheers
WB

unless i've read this wrong i think you win the worst question of the year award...lol
as above, just turn down the volume.

sorry to but in here and sorry if its a noob question but i've had the same problem...
when i answer a call the volume is so loud everyone around me can hear the call!
now i've tried clicking the side key to lower the volume but it goes to the black screen with the bar and silent and vibrate on there and its only on 6%
I'd want to say (another noob comment) that i have sometimes found the sound is irregular, sometimes its low but normally very loud... isnt there meant to be a function where you place the phone next to you're ear and it lowers the volume so its not damaging you're ears?

I think that question is valid. You can only turn it down so much. All sounds on HD2 are too loud; be it call, music, speakerphone, ringing. You can hear speaker breaking at 50%, and your ears bleeding at more. Distortion is present even at low values.
So, I'm with OP, but I want to expand request: how to lower ALL volume on HD2? In other words, instead 10-100%, I want 1-10%.

maybe i just havent noticed due to being pretty much death

the question should be: how to reduce the default incall vol, is that right?

The earpiece and handsfree produce a lot of noise, I agree. there are a few threads already about volume too high and poor sound quality i.e. distorted audio. with earpiece calls try raising the volume first to just above minimum, then keep lowering the volume even when level indicator has reached minimum to reduce call volume further.

Don't be quick to judfe please!
wacky.banana said:
First off I will be moving this thread to general when I have finished responding.
Secondly, can you explain your problem a little better please. If you really mean turn the in-call volume down, ie NOT when the phone is in speakerphone mode, you can do this now by simply holding the down volume key while in the call to make it happen.
If this is not what you mean then have another go at explaining yourself.
Cheers
WB
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Maybe I haven't explain myself well enough. Why do you and all the smart asses that gave all that cheap advice think that just because we're not mods or developers we're dumb.
It is a well known problem with the HD2. Even with the volume all the way down (while talking on the phone) it's still very loud!!!! Very Very Loud! And I don't mean that trough speaker phone but through the earpiece!
Does this justify my frustration and my legitimate question?
If you can't say nothing good say nothing at all!
thank you!

I know of those threads!
htc12345 said:
The earpiece and handsfree produce a lot of noise, I agree. there are a few threads already about volume too high and poor sound quality i.e. distorted audio. with earpiece calls try raising the volume first to just above minimum, then keep lowering the volume even when level indicator has reached minimum to reduce call volume further.
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trust me I know of all those threads and I follow them daily but no real solution so far!
G

Not funny!
paulking said:
unless i've read this wrong i think you win the worst question of the year award...lol
as above, just turn down the volume.
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If you think that making fun of someone else's problem is funny think again!
We do expect more of the senior members here but then again maybe we're wrong in doing so!
why do you assume I don't know how to use the volume buttons?
It's a well known fact that hd2 is very loud while incall and even with the volume all the way down is still too loud!!!
G

its loud indeed,
I and I would be personally intrested in lowering the top volume, so highest settings are more reasonable, and stepping down from that actually make it lower sensibly

I had this issue with the call volume being too loud even when turned down, and sometimes it would distort/crackle with certain words/letters. I used the following registry tweak and it's worked absolutely perfectly for me. I've used it on the old ROM and the latest.
HKCU\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\inCall AND InCall2
Change the value of InitVol to "2" in both inCall and inCall2
See if that helps

snerkler said:
I had this issue with the call volume being too loud even when turned down, and sometimes it would distort/crackle with certain words/letters. I used the following registry tweak and it's worked absolutely perfectly for me. I've used it on the old ROM and the latest.
HKCU\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\inCall AND InCall2
Change the value of InitVol to "2" in both inCall and inCall2
See if that helps
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I tried that weeks ago and it did absolutely nothing.

sorry to prove you wrong!
snerkler said:
I had this issue with the call volume being too loud even when turned down, and sometimes it would distort/crackle with certain words/letters. I used the following registry tweak and it's worked absolutely perfectly for me. I've used it on the old ROM and the latest.
HKCU\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\inCall AND InCall2
Change the value of InitVol to "2" in both inCall and inCall2
See if that helps
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I've done that too but that volume is for incall notifications only. You can verify that by having someone call you while you're engaged in a call. You will barely hear them if you turn the volume to "2".
thank for trying though!
regards,
G

I think the members want you to be more specific. Identify what ROM & radio you are using and what you have done so far to resolve the problem.

tried 'em all
romac said:
I think the members want you to be more specific. Identify what ROM & radio you are using and what you have done so far to resolve the problem.
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I've tried all official roms!!! Also tried a lot of the cocked ones with pretty much same result, very little difference whatsoever!
G

sunking101 said:
I tried that weeks ago and it did absolutely nothing.
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I wonder why it works for some and not others?

snerkler said:
I wonder why it works for some and not others?
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On drugs trials, lots of people claim the placebo works...

placebo works too... for a few sad short seconds...
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On drugs trials, lots of people claim the placebo works...
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yep!
Long live Placebo! But when reality checks in changes everything!
G