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Hey Guys at first sorry for my english i'm not good in it. And I'm a Android newbie I just gained a bit exerience with my Touch Diamond but it's broken now..okay but that's not the probleme....
If got a question:
After about 2 days of searching for an android 2.0 or 2.1 ROM I was a little bit confused of the diffrent news everybody was talking about. I'm root on my Hero. That was the first an last thing I made with my device.
1. Everybody is gonna talk about MoDaCo 3.0 but when I was trying to download his ROM my browser never got a request. Is the site down, where that ROM is hosted ?? Could someone give me a working link with this ROM ??
2. Is there a ROM with Android 2.0 or 2.1 outside or even not ??? And if yes are they working well ???
Would be nice if someone can help me =) thanks a lot.
Please answer soon if you know something about that =)
Greetz BassdoxXx
you can get modaco's roms at his website, www.modaco.com.
in the android development section there are some 2.0/1 roms, none of them works flawless, see for yourself if it fits your needs.
Thanks a lot for your fast answer. =)
The problem that i couldn't open the modaco page was my isp -.- i downloaded it at school
BassdoxXx said:
Thanks a lot for your fast answer. =)
The problem that i couldn't open the modaco page was my isp -.- i downloaded it at school
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What? Does ISP's block that site? Lol, would never happened in Norway
there is a few 2.0+ roms out there for the hero.
most seem to be very usable now.
best sense ui would be lox/behnaam community release on 1.6.
http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1448
there are two aosp roms worth looking at.
lox aosp ( im using that on a daily basis)
http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1416
jnwhiteh aosp
http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1528
Hello all,
I am having very specific request when it comes to choosing a proper rom for install on to my hero.
I am blind. Stock roms are only running Android 1.5. More robust accessibility features are available starting with Android 1.6 and improving even more with Android 2.0.
So for sure I am forced to upgrade my hand set.
There are various roms, some of their authors have even disable google specific features so I know I can't install such a rom.
All the accessibility efforts are being lead by the google developers.
Most likely these accessibility tools won't be usefull to most of you but please can anyone recommend me a rom where market is working and where the following applications can be installed and used?
- eyesfree suite of applications,
- talkback - the google screen reader for android,
- tts service.
All possible help is already appreciated.
sorry for the double posting. I've accidentally posted twice and I am unable to remove the post.
Hope anybody can help me please.
pvdeejay said:
Hello all,
I am having very specific request when it comes to choosing a proper rom for install on to my hero.
I am blind. Stock roms are only running Android 1.5. More robust accessibility features are available starting with Android 1.6 and improving even more with Android 2.0.
So for sure I am forced to upgrade my hand set.
There are various roms, some of their authors have even disable google specific features so I know I can't install such a rom.
All the accessibility efforts are being lead by the google developers.
Most likely these accessibility tools won't be usefull to most of you but please can anyone recommend me a rom where market is working and where the following applications can be installed and used?
- eyesfree suite of applications,
- talkback - the google screen reader for android,
- tts service.
All possible help is already appreciated.
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i am on mcr3.0, i looked in the market, i can find 8 apps for eyesfree, tts is one of these. i didn't try to install one of these, but usually it works. the search for talkback returned nothing.
not that i want to be rude, but wouldn't you be better off with another phone if you are blind? i can not imagine a touchscreen only phone would be suitable for someone who is not able to see... especially because there are great devices out there that have a full qwerty keyboard, and come with android 2.0 out of the box... imho this would be a better solution.
again, the last thing i want to be is rude, but maybe this was your mistake: you posted in the htc hero section of this forum, the hero is a touch screen only device, including a virtual keyboard on the screen. it has only six buttons and a trackball, and two rocker buttons for the volume. just to make clear we are talking about the same device
if you are still up for the hero you could try the 2.1 rom from here: http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=30418&posted=1#post30418
best you try for yourself, it has some drawbacks, but maybe in areas you don't need (afaik syncing with exchange does not work for example, which wouldn't be a problem for me...). otherwise it might be worth to wait another week or two, we all are waiting unpatiently for the official eclair release from htc
keep asking if you need to know more, but maybe open a new thread, since your problems are very specific, and might drown between all the newbies question about "how to root my phone".
Hello,
Thanks for your reply and a great attitude.
Yes it may sound strange I have really got HTC Hero here. I know I'll be having problems with virtual keyboard but also I am afraid accessibility features of Android phones are not really such mastered one can use it daily. For example reading emails and content from the web browser is not yet possible. I just want to try how things work and I would also like to touch the virtual keyboard. If I can memorize computer keyboard and use it daily, typewriter keyboard, nokia mobile phone keyboard, then perhaps I might be able to make some use of this too.
I am sory but here are some more questions:
I haven't yet verified with some sighted friends but... is it possible my hero is running even older version of android like Android 1.5? I've based the assumption that it's most likelly running 1.5 because majority of the devices I was reading on the net are running it.
You've been triyng to locate eyes-free applications on the market but you were unable to find talkback. Are you sure you are running newer version of Android than 1.5?
Talkback is supposed to be installed with Android 1.6 andd 2.0 by default and you should be able to find it in the accessibility menu of your phone. I am not sure how well this applies to the custom roms.
Talkback requires google's accessibility api which is reported to be available on Android 1.6 upwards.
To tell you the full story first I've asked on the eyes-free google group whether some accessibility experts from there can help me but no one knowledgeable enough has replied to my query, so I'm trying my luck here then.
Oh I am really excited since I've got really well formed informative reply.
Thanks again
Edit:
Also, I've seen somewhere in the forums here this leaked HTC rom does not support the market. Has this been rectified already? You know if market does not work then most likelly I won't be able to install these applications I am tallking about.
Also you are mentioning possibility to wait a few weeks until HTC guys role out the official update for Hero. Wouldn't that break chances I will be able to root my device later?
Edit2:
Ooops, I should read better next time. Market works on this rom. The problem is paid apps can't be installed which is hopefully not a big issue for me since most of the accessibility enabled applications are free.
Which of the downloads from Hero 21 do I need?
63.18.55.06JU_6.35.09.26) or No Wipe Download. I will need a wipe I am sure but since this link says nowipe I am ehmmm. confused.
pvdeejay,
Unfortunately there is not an 'official' update for Android 1.6, 2.0 or 2.1 as of yet. There are rumours of one coming out soon, but nothing cast-iron yet.
You are correct in that the Hero runs 1.5. It does say it under Settings | About Phone (bottom item on list)| Firmware Version (bottom on list again), although without a working screen reader, there is probably little use in knowing how to find that.
If you did want to upgrade, I'm sure plenty of people could help find a ROM that would suit. The only issue with that is that you would need a rooted phone with a custom recovery image installed. Unfortunately, a lot of the procedures would not be easy for you, as the software that you might need to use to go through the procedure is probably not designed that well for accessibility tools. I don't know what kind of software you are using, but some of the instructions for making goldcards are quite complex, and involve editing some numbers in a 'table' which could be quite difficult for you, I would imagine.
I'm sure a friend would be able to help you out with making a goldcard/rooting if you did want to install a custom ROM (you'll probably be waiting a while otherwise ). They could even root their phone while doing yours (just share the goldcard between the devices).
Nonetheless, there is probably a ROM out there with little removed from it. I'll have a look just now, but you would need to have your phone rooted to do anything just now.
When it comes to rooting and installing custom recovery image. Do you thing the following instructions might work for me?
These instructions don't require a gold card:
- How to Root HTC Hero and Install Amon Ra Recovery Image
- How to install a custom rom on a HTC Hero
Hello,
Here are some numbers I've asked my friend to read from system -> about screen. The phone interface is in czech so I am unable to get some names translated to english, but I believe some of the geeks will understand these identifiers and might be able to help me what is best:
Code:
firmware: 1,5
63.118.55.O6U|6.35.04.25
2.6.27-a5504199
Build number: 1.76.405.6 146733 CL# 47214 release-keys
Software version: 1.0.0.A6288
pvdeejay,
to sum it up:
the hero definitly runs on android 1.5. there are no roms for older android versions, and a few homebrewn for newer versions, as we said already.
i searched for talkbalk on my 1.5 rom, so it is obvious that i couldn't find it...
about rooting of newer roms: it is just a matter of time, sooner or later there will be always methods of rooting a rom. what i meant by waiting is: wait until the official update is out, then wait a few more hours until the first rooted and customized rom is out
@pvdeejay,
I would have to agree with kendong2 that waiting for the official ROM is probably the best idea for you at the moment. There are no guarantees that an unofficial ROM would help, and it would be another user interface to try and learn.
@kendon,
I noticed he has the original, easily rooted version of the hero. IIRC, that is what I had on my G2 (and had the security unlocked bootloader out the box). If that's the case, would pvdeejay be able to 'fastboot boot' a full system img file for the purposes of testing it out to see if it meets the requirements.
The reason I ask is that I've only ever fastbooted my AmonRA recovery (I didn't flash it, because I never felt any need to). I'm guessing you could fastboot a full img, but I'm not sure about the practical issues of where it would be stored in memory...
Sorry guys originally I believed I am slowly getting into the matter and am begining to understand how flashing / rooting / upgrading home brew firmwares works on these phones.
After these 2 posts I feel like a total noob again.
Now again some very concrete questions:
What about these 2 guides I've posted links to?
Can I somehow got [Recovery] [13-Dec-2009] RA-hero-v1.5.2 installed so I will be able to do nandroid backup and then possibly flash some new roms?
Can I really brick my phone by trying to install amon ra?
Originally I thought the process works as follows:
1) get the custom recovery image installed (that's the amon ra in this case),
2) do a nandroid backup which will dump everything usefull on to the memory card,
3) backup and reformat the card,
4) download a rom, rename it to update.zip, put it onto the root folder of the cart, reboot the hero in recovery mode, do the wipe of the data partition, and run update,
5) reboot again and believe it's good.
Also some very significant bit is the thing you are all calling the radio. I am afraid I've not identified this bit thus it's missing in this summary.
Which files will I need to download if I decide to try Android 2.1 community edition 1.8? Are these files I've copied links to a few posts earlier both needed?
Can you please check this list, identify the things I am missing, and make suggestions and corrections why this may not work on my device based off of those number I tried to put down here?
Even if I won't be able to do this right now I'd be happy to get corrections as I can learn something new.
Of course I won't be doing all this on my own. I will ask my bro to read all the stuff to me and we'll do it according to your advices.
To give some bits about me and my computer skills, I believe I am a Windows power user, Basically I do also understand unix, I know what's bash how the files are arranged in a file system, can use command-line tools, telnet, ssh. I am working as a network administrator here so some background is there really.
Hi pvdeejay,
Answers to your questions here.
You can actually use fastboot to 'temporarily' load up the AmonRA recovery image into memory and run it from there. I do that on my phone, for the simple reason that I can't be bothered ) ) to flash the recovery. Once you get AmonRA running, the first thing you should do is make a Nandroid backup. It will be saved to your SD card, so then get the nandroid directory of your card and save it to your PC (just in case!)
So, here's how you'd go about this.
(Make sure you have the android sdk installed, and that adb and fastboot commands are working). USB cable should be plugged in throughout.
Before you begin, put the ROM you want (ie. Android 2.1 community edition 1.8) into the root of the microSD card (a .zip file).
Code:
adb devices
Should list your phone's serial number
Now turn off the phone, and turn it on with the back key held down (the one at the very bottom right of the device).
You should enter fastboot mode. Now type
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fastboot devices
and you should see the serial number again.
Now type
Code:
fastboot boot AmonRA.img
where AmonRA.img is a file in your present working directory that is the filename of the latest custom recovery image. This does NOT flash your phone, it merely runs the image (pretty much as close as you get to risk free, other than sitting there with a tinfoil hat on )
See screenshot of the recovery image here:
http://www.sizzledcore.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/RA-hero-recovery-image-500x375.jpg
Make the Nandroid backup by choosing 'Nandroid Vx.x Backup' and waiting a while.
If your ROM needs a wipe first (most new ones do), select Wipe data/factory reset. You will lose all your user data on the device (but you've got a nandroid backup just in case)
You're now good to go. So choose "Apply sdcard:choose zip"
Now select the custom ROM zip file you downloaded. It doesn't even need to be called update.zip! Choose it from the list and push trackball.
Wait for the update.zip to go in. Do NOT turn off the device or pull the battery. First boot can take a very long time (upto 30 minutes). Just keep it plugged in via USB and wait...
As for radios, see http://android.modaco.com/content/h...-24-11-hero-roms-radios-in-update-zip-format/ and look at the section titled radios. The latest one is in bold. It is a .zip file as well, that you use these exact same instructions for to install (don't do the wipe or anything like that. Just install the .zip file)
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@kendon,
I noticed he has the original, easily rooted version of the hero. IIRC, that is what I had on my G2 (and had the security unlocked bootloader out the box). If that's the case, would pvdeejay be able to 'fastboot boot' a full system img file for the purposes of testing it out to see if it meets the requirements.
The reason I ask is that I've only ever fastbooted my AmonRA recovery (I didn't flash it, because I never felt any need to). I'm guessing you could fastboot a full img, but I'm not sure about the practical issues of where it would be stored in memory...
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this is correct so far, i did the same, except i installed the recovery. i play a lot with my phone, the installed recovery image with the nandroid backup is the best i have ever seen for a phone...
@pvdeejay
you always write so much...
i try to answer everything:
the two guides you posted are good for your situation. i never tried flashrec, but from what i read it is safe to use. i installed my recovery image through fastboot, the guide is here: http://android.modaco.com/content/h...ng-the-patched-recovery-image-on-your-device/
i have no idea how this works out for you, but my honest suggestion would be that you have someone seeing assisting you, you CAN brick your phone, though it is not likely if you follow the instructions precisely. the process is not very time consuming at all, so you don't need to bother anyone for days of their time.
edit: and now i read your post to the end and saw that your brother will be helping you, so you are on the right track
once you have the recovery installed you can make nandroid backups, and i would suggest that you do this first thing after installing the recovery, better make a backup too much than one too less...
the 5 steps you described are correct, except there is no need to rename the zipfile anymore, you can select any .zip from your sdcard.
the radio part is the number that begins with 63.18.55.06, then comes two letters and then more numbers. as by now the version can be identified by the letters, with JU being the up-to-date one. in general you can say the newer the better, but you have to try for yourself. start with the newest one, if you have problems go back.
thanks this seems to be pretty doable plus I will easily be able to restore the current data backed using nandroid backup.
Which android SDK do I need the latest one?
The commands I need to type are supposed to be typed on the PC or on the phone? I assume on the PC but I just would like to ensure.
Hero21 1.8 community edition has a recommended radio listed in the first post. Is it necessary to install that one as well? What should I install first the actual rom or the radio? Do I need installing radio at all? Should i do the same with radio i.e. renaming it to update.zip and using amonra to install it?
Also will I be able to use this method even if I install another rom (running amonra without actually flashing it)?
Edit:
sorry guys did not realize renaming to update.zip is no longer needed.
Edit2:
is there an easy way on how to access sd card from windows? I can't just remove the card from phone and insert it into my laptop because I don't have the proper adapter. Previously my boss was using the hero and perhaps it would be nice to backup the sd card first.
Edit3:
uhmmm, installing android sdk is perhaps not as simple as it sounds.
I have just seen this article.
I am on a limited gprs internet connection, can you please suggest sdk features I won't need to save some download bandwith?
- you need only the adb binary (thats adb.exe for windows) from the sdk, the rest is not needed for this.
- install the radio from the 2.1community-rom-thread, it is the newest. install the radio first. DO NOT PULL THE BATTERY until the phone has rebooted completely. if you pull the battery during radio upgrade your phone will be dead. it takes a few minutes, do not panic!
- you can copy the contents of the sdcard via the usb-cable, plug it into your pc and pull down the notification bar...
Do I need to run SDK Setup.exe when I have downloaded android sdk for windows?
Or can I simply run that binary from the command-line without the installation?
Do I need any USB drivers so my phone can be recognized?
This is NOT for those on 2.1 leak. It is ONLY for those on 1.5 Stock or 2.1 OTA OS version.
This is a Windows Only version. We are porting it to JAVA now for cross platform compatibility.
Major update - Re Uploaded the App
We have brought back the Eris Master App as the Android Master App. It has a new name in preparation for support for more Android devices. We are working on fixing the XP bug where files wont download. Until we get a full fix working, DO NOT USE IF YOUR ON WINDOWS XP Stay tuned for updates. We have also included an Error Log handling feature. If there are any errors, it will try to automatically send us an email with the log file. If it cannot send us the email, the log file will pop up for you so you can get in contact with us and send us the log so we can fix the issue.
Again, if you are on Windows XP, DO NOT USE. We have been getting a lot of email logs from those on XP, and we know its not working, so dont bother wasting your time trying to see if it works.
Download the application from here: http://tinyurl.com/2doknnb then run the self extracting .exe zip file, and let it extract to its default location, which is c:\AMA\ then go into the folder there and run the application. Select a ROM to download, and the Root Image, and Recovery Image, then start the downloads.
If you need any support, it is always available on the IRC server.
You can also follow us on Twitter: www.twitter.com/THE_ECLIPS3
Check the thread and the IRC server for updates.
ECLIPS3 and Jamezelle
- Fixed files not downloading in windows XP a little bit more, full fix in works
- Fixes a few minor bug fixes
- Streamlined the code more
This App is being worked on by ECLIPS3 and Jamezelle
We are now on Google Code. Please visit the page here to let us know of any bugs / errors you get while using the app. It is not meant to help you solve your problem there. That is what this thread or our IRC server is for. The IRC server login info is at the bottom of my signature. A web based IRC server is available through this link.
On step 2, when you get to the part of doing the update. our app will tell you to push volume up to start update. you might also have to push the trackball in as well. the link will say <action> YES. push trackball in to start update.
- Market updates for apps. (coming soon)
We have figured out how to restore apps, and restore market update links, need to roll it into the app, but it is possible. We might even have a way to restore links for those non root. Any other app that does market update links requires root first to backup the links.
UPDATE 5/5/2010
Version 2.1 (released 5/5/2010)
Files are now hosted on http://android.grdlock.net
-Fixed where app wont upload custom rom to phone
-New download links for files
-Ability to download roms via app, instead of including them
-Choose what rom to install easier
-Download of ROOT Image instead of including it
-Progress bar for downloads
-Splash Image install
-Cleaned up a lot of the code
-Many bug fixes
-Made user interaction a lot more friendly
-Fix device not found in app.
-Check if phone is connected to PC. If not, setup will not continue.
-Fixed spelling issue.
We have now finished the core of the Application. What it consists of is a GUI (Graphical User Interface) to make going from 1.5 stock to 2.1 root with a custom ROM installed. There is also an easy way to reboot your phone, enter the recovery mode, and enter the bootloader mode. Finally the third part available in this release is a way to backup all of your applications along with restoring all of them. Currently this is root only. We do have an update coming to backup apps for non root.
For rooting there is a 4 step process. Just go through the steps, one at a time and make sure you read and pay attention to the instructions.
We will be adding more functionality and options to this application. Stay tuned for future updates. If there is an update, just re download the whole app.
Please let us know of any bugs or options you would like to see in the application and we will do what we can to add those in or fix those bugs.
Prereq's for using the application:
You must have Microsoft .NET version 4. Direct Download Link
Then also download the drivers file. Unzip it to your desktop. Follow these instructions on how to install a driver. Select have disc, then navigate to your desktop, inside the corresponding folder, and continue the prompts.
Requests
- Support for other android phones.
- Save Layout and Scenes. (Working on now)
- backup apps for those NOT ROOTED (Have it working. need to roll it into an update)
- Restore email settings for Gmail and HTC Mail (Working on now)
- Download speed for file downloads
- Boot andimations (new name for animations)
- Progress bar for copying files to sdcard
So i tried this out and it works great. It is a really nice addition to the anyones android tool set.
I did notice that once i reinstalled all apps it did take quite a long time to load all of them again... 5 minutes. That was ok though because it saved me alot more time from having to download and install all of them again. I did i reboot too just to make sure.
Thanks a lot for this script!
note: put the scripts in your sdk\tools section on your computer.
ch4sethe5un said:
So i tried this out and it works great. It is a really nice addition to the anyones android tool set.
I did notice that once i reinstalled all apps it did take quite a long time to load all of them again... 5 minutes. That was ok thought because it saved me alot more time from having to download and install all of them again. I did i reboot too just to make sure.
Thanks a lot for this script!
note: put the scripts in your sdk\tools section on your computer.
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Thanks for your feedback. I am working on creating a standalone application for backing up the apps, reinstalling, rebooting, rebooting into bootloader and recovery. It will also be able to install the bootanimation files amongst other things. hopefully i will be able to have it do the rooting process as well. though im not sure how often that will be used considering most have already rooted their phones. if some people would like to vote on those options and let me know what they want as well as requests for other features that would be great.
bootanimation is good and boot image logo like in here, maybe?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=654042
though im not sure how often that will be used considering most have already rooted their phones.
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Thats not necessarily true, because 'all people' aren't trolling the internet like we are all the time.
So im sure there are people that dont even know we have root access on the eris. I bet there are also a ton of people that dont know what root is and even how to go about it, so an automated system would be a great addition.
Most of the world is not technology oriented. Think of (most)Best Buy shoppers.. hahah (i used to sell computers there) They look for someone to 'deal' with the tech for them.
i may just be a ritard but i plug my phone in to computer with debugged mode on, i have the skd driver thing updated and my sd card is mounted and it says error device not found any idea wat im doing wrong like i said im a ritard lol thanks guys yall do amazing work keep it up!!!!!!
I use these scripts whenever I flash! I will be glad to test your app!
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i may just be a ritard but i plug my phone in to computer with debugged mode on, i have the skd driver thing updated and my sd card is mounted and it says error device not found any idea wat im doing wrong like i said im a ritard lol thanks guys yall do amazing work keep it up!!!!!!
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dont mount your sd just leave it ur phone on charge. And follow the instructions that are mentioned in the script before you start it.
I the core of the app done which is going from stock 1.5 to 2.1 root, with recovery image and new rom installing. i have a few people beta testing it for me. once i make sure it is stable for the XDA community i will release that with periodic update of new features.
ECLIPS3 said:
I the core of the app done which is going from stock 1.5 to 2.1 root, with recovery image and new rom installing. i have a few people beta testing it for me. once i make sure it is stable for the XDA community i will release that with periodic update of new features.
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I was having issues using the scripts to backup on aloysius 2.0 port I did yesterday. It refused to backup; I'm not sure why..
Spencer_Moore said:
I was having issues using the scripts to backup on aloysius 2.0 port I did yesterday. It refused to backup; I'm not sure why..
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the rom you ported, its a hero rom? thats probably why because i have found that roms that have been ported from other devices have issues with my scripts, which is because of how the rom and its core are built. will try and add that functionality at some point.
for everyone else. these scripts only are verified to work on eris based roms and legend based roms.
Great job! saves so much time and work!
UPDATE: Application is now released. please view first post for more info.
Nice work!
ch4sethe5un said:
So i tried this out and it works great. It is a really nice addition to the anyones android tool set.
I did notice that once i reinstalled all apps it did take quite a long time to load all of them again... 5 minutes. That was ok though because it saved me alot more time from having to download and install all of them again. I did i reboot too just to make sure.
Thanks a lot for this script!
note: put the scripts in your sdk\tools section on your computer.
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On fresh installs, or after wiping, it takes some time to build up the cache again.
Eris Master App update file
The update file can not be found.
he requested URL /Eris_Master_App_By_ECLIPS3.exe was not found on this server.
Re: [Application] Eris Master Application
The update file can not be found.
he requested URL /Eris_Master_App_By_ECLIPS3.exe was not found on this server.
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that is because I don't have an update for it yet.
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Eris Master App update file
ECLIPS3,
Ok....Well my Eris now has the latest 2.1 ROM and when I ran the program it told me that the ROM installed is older that the one being installed. So if I replace the newer rom in the upload/root folder should I be ok?
-Tony
Re: [Application] Eris Master Application
Are you on 2.1 leak, 1.5, or 2.1 root? This only works on 2.1. The file in the root folder is the 2.1 root image. In rom folder is custom roms to install. An update will be released today.
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Eris Master App update file
ECLIPS3,
I am on the 2nd 2.1 leak unrooted.
-Tony
Re: [Application] Eris Master Application
I hate to say it but please read first post again. It will be answered for you.
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Eris Master App update file
Ok..sorry Sir!
Hey guys,
First and foremost, I would like to say I have no idea about anything, and everything on this website is in a foreign language to me (can't understand anything), so please bear with me. I set up a new thread because after reading everything, I still don't get anything (being a noob).
I just signed up with vodaphone in australia to get a HTC Legend (my first android and smart phone after using n73 for the last 3years). Everything is going fine until I wanted to get apps from the android market. I didnt have a gmail account, so I signed up for one through my computer. However, when i tried signing in through the phone google account set-up wizard, after waiting 5mins for the phone to communicate with google servers, it fails and the phone would not let me, citing that it cant establish a reliable data connection to the server, being a temporary problem (Tried it with both 3G and wi-fi, also with 2 other friend's log-in). Any help on this would be good. Also, with HTC sync 3.0, I was unable to sync and backup all my sms for a factory reset. Is there any other ways to do this without the apps? Additionally, I cannot update my software to Froyo (Firmware 2.2) FOTA or finding a download for it onto my comp as the phone says my software is up-to-date (But HTC Australia shows that there is an update for Software 2.2 FOTA).
Alright, I know what goes through your mind, get the apps to do that, but without the sign-up for gmail settings, I cant access Market, cant download apps, basically cant do anything (and mind you, I dont know about programming or xda or anything of that sort to check the shell script or whatever that goes on in the forum).
I've went around looking for answers but never really got a definition, mostly about how-to's which I am not interested as I have no idea what they are.
What is flashing?
What is rooting?
What is un-branded or Vodaphone branded (in my case, if it makes sense)?
What is a goldcard and what's it for?
Is RUU or custom rom or rom the same thing? does that have to do with my firmware? and what is it?
What's with downgrading and upgrading for other stuff (to versions 1.1/1.3)?
What is Clockwork and Fastmode and all those other stuff?
What's the latest firmware/software for Legend (2.2 or 3.0) as I have read threads with firmware 1.3 or 3.3 (or something of that sort)?
I know I AM the biggest noob you guys will ever find. Seriously, no websites actually explain all these stuff, and I'm getting paranoid over using an android phone. I know you guys might just tell me to get a simpler phone, but I upgraded to an android to know more about it.
Thanks in advance guys, if any help can be provided. I have a cool phone, but I wanna use it fully.
Regards,
William
Firmware version
2.1-update1
Baseband version
47.39.35.09U_7.08.35.21
Kernel version
2.6.29-8d705e0d
[email protected] #1
Build number
2.10.178.1 CL211993 release key
Software number
2.10.178.1
Browser version
Webkit 3.1
http://lifehacker.com/5717356/set-u...tm_campaign=Feed:+lifehacker/full+(Lifehacker)
^ To know more about your Android.
Try various Wi-fi settings till you get proper Wi-Fi signal.
http://zubu.ca/legend/fota_check.php shows that there is no update available for your build, I suggest you debrand.
I just helped about with the basics, the more experienced people will be able to answer you better. Did you get a black Legend?
hey man, thanks for that. mightily helpful.
however, wat do u mean by various settings for wifi? there arent much to set.
also, what do u mean by debranding as well? like not go vodaphone or smtg like dat?
btw, i have a silver Legend i think? the metallic case.
marder101 said:
Hey guys,
First and foremost, I would like to say I have no idea about anything, and everything on this website is in a foreign language to me (can't understand anything), so please bear with me. I set up a new thread because after reading everything, I still don't get anything (being a noob).
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Be prepared to learn, and to become less of a noob
marder101 said:
I just signed up with vodaphone in australia to get a HTC Legend (my first android and smart phone after using n73 for the last 3years). Everything is going fine until I wanted to get apps from the android market. I didnt have a gmail account, so I signed up for one through my computer. However, when i tried signing in through the phone google account set-up wizard, after waiting 5mins for the phone to communicate with google servers, it fails and the phone would not let me, citing that it cant establish a reliable data connection to the server, being a temporary problem (Tried it with both 3G and wi-fi, also with 2 other friend's log-in). Any help on this would be good.
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Hmm, I got that once before. If there's a different wifi network that you can get access to, try that.
marder101 said:
Also, with HTC sync 3.0, I was unable to sync and backup all my sms for a factory reset. Is there any other ways to do this without the apps?
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There are apps on the market, if you can sort the issue above then check those out.
marder101 said:
Additionally, I cannot update my software to Froyo (Firmware 2.2) FOTA or finding a download for it onto my comp as the phone says my software is up-to-date (But HTC Australia shows that there is an update for Software 2.2 FOTA).
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Yes, some users still haven't received the update. A debrand will help
marder101 said:
Alright, I know what goes through your mind, get the apps to do that, but without the sign-up for gmail settings, I cant access Market, cant download apps, basically cant do anything (and mind you, I dont know about programming or xda or anything of that sort to check the shell script or whatever that goes on in the forum).
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You are correct, I have said about apps. If you temproot using visionary you can install Titanium backup which can backup everything. Both of these are available for "sideloading". Without a file manager on your phone I can't think of an easy way to install them. What I'd do is go to the settings, make sure USB debuging is on (Settings --> applications --> development) and then use adb to install it:
Code:
adb devices
adb install Visionary.apk
adb install Titanium-Backup.apk
This is assuming that you rename the files to Visionary and Titanium-Backup, and have them in the same directory as ADB. For an easy installation of ADB do this:
Download this file and unzip it to C:\Android\ADB\
Open cmd (start orb/button, type "cmd" and hit enter)
In cmd do this:
Code:
cd C:\Android\ADB
Now you can use the adb command listed above. If you have the apk files in the same folder you can pretty much copy-paste those commands
marder101 said:
I've went around looking for answers but never really got a definition, mostly about how-to's which I am not interested as I have no idea what they are.
What is flashing?
What is rooting?
What is un-branded or Vodaphone branded (in my case, if it makes sense)?
What is a goldcard and what's it for?
Is RUU or custom rom or rom the same thing? does that have to do with my firmware? and what is it?
What's with downgrading and upgrading for other stuff (to versions 1.1/1.3)?
What is Clockwork and Fastmode and all those other stuff?
What's the latest firmware/software for Legend (2.2 or 3.0) as I have read threads with firmware 1.3 or 3.3 (or something of that sort)?
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Flashing is the process of writing a new operating system to NAND (internal) memory, otherwise known as flash memory
Rooting is like gaining administrator rights on a Windows PC. On Unix-like systems (Android, Linux, OSX) this is known as the root account, hence "rooting"
Vodafone branded means that Vodafone has it's logos and apps on there. Think of the ROM on your phone as a custom ROM, made by Vodafone. You need to wait for Vodafone to update it. Un-branded simply mean that all of that is gone, it's like having the ROM that HTC meant for it. So we only need to wait for HTC to update it
A goldcard is an SD card that has been specially prepared for making the phone think it's CID is different. I don't fully understand how it works, all we need to know is that it does, and that we need one for rooting
ROM and firmware are the same thing RUU is "ROM Upgrade Utility". It's a method made by HTC for upgrading the phones firmware. A custom ROM is simply a ROM that's been customised. It may be based on the official ROM from HTC, or the open source version of Android
ClockworkMOD is an open source recovery image. It allows us to do full backups of the NAND memory (nandroid backup), as well as easily installing new ROMs/updates. These come in zip files Fastboot is a way to test stuff quickly. It allows you to flash certain parts of a ROM without the need to flash the whole thing, as well as boot from a kernel that isn't flahed to the device. It's a dev thing
The latest version of Android for the Legend (officially) is 2.2. HTC firmwares follow a different numbering scheme. HTC ROMs v. 1.x and 2.x are based on Android 2.1, and v. 3.x is based on 2.2
marder101 said:
I know I AM the biggest noob you guys will ever find. Seriously, no websites actually explain all these stuff, and I'm getting paranoid over using an android phone. I know you guys might just tell me to get a simpler phone, but I upgraded to an android to know more about it.
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Get learnin'
I hope this helps
@GrammarFreak:
Thanks for your post! Even though I thought I kinda understood most things, this cleared a lot up for me!
RMWessels
No worries
ishan_rulz said:
http://lifehacker.com/5717356/set-u...tm_campaign=Feed:+lifehacker/full+(Lifehacker)
^ To know more about your Android.
Try various Wi-fi settings till you get proper Wi-Fi signal.
http://zubu.ca/legend/fota_check.php shows that there is no update available for your build, I suggest you debrand.
I just helped about with the basics, the more experienced people will be able to answer you better. Did you get a black Legend?
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Hello her last day i got a new legend and it was black and it looks like my old htc hero
My tablet was runnin dexter mod 1.4 with all the patches, buy always had problems with the sd card and the usb thumb and I also had problems running some applications. Right now my A7 is running [mod] update04-19 patched market + google apps and my tablet is working almost perfect. I think this mod is better that dexter mode.
I hope everybody use this mode in their tablets.
Thanks Bestialbub for your great job.
i jus got my elocity a7
i tried to mod mine with the dexter mod 1.41 and mines wont work,
1st- i download the file didn't unzip it then i sent it to the SD card and rename it "update.zip".
2nd- i did the factory wipe/reset then i select to wipe all data
3rd- i select update.zip but i notice an message saying( E. can't read from SD card). i dont know if that is apart of the mod or what.
4th- when it is finish then i select reboot option and when it is done rebooting i get nothing new. can you help me out are do you know something that i might be doing wrong. i also did do the 1.42 patch aswell didn't work. are is there another mod that you can tell me how to get it.
hasn't been tested for application on dexter's rom, though i don't know of reason they shouldn't work. gapps can be flakey like that; actually, the files are all stock as they come from cyanogen, minus my patched market, which doesn't have any reason not to work on dexter's rom and has nothing to to with the installation of the rest of google applications, including the calendar and text messaging services; i introduced no signature issues else it wouldn't install on stock firmware.
what i can suggest, is that if you're doing this under wiped conditions; is that you need to do a "factory reset" in recovery AFTER applying my gapps update.
if you don't do the factory reset, there will be settings put in place by the provision.apk in dexter's rom (not sure if this has changed in 1.42) that may conflict with the setup of google-apps. it didn't w/ the gapps in v1 i ported from dexters rom in previous tests, but i was going for a vanilla install w/out mixed signatures/versions/dates. provision.apk is generally suggested to be removed when google-apps is intended to be installed, and it is by my installer, but not the changes done in the data folders, which is why the wipe is suggested. i think its role is replaced by the googlepartnersetup.apk, but i could be wrong.
theres also some build prop differences; some unnecessary (gsm provider info), some improved (fingerprint for added apps in addition to patched market and added permissions), and the same ones necessary for apps like skype to run.
sorry if that was too much info. i do that.
EDIT: i reviewed my original post, its step *2B*. i did update it to underline it, and provide explanation for its probable necessity.
bestialbub said:
provision.apk is generally suggested to be removed when google-apps is intended to be installed, and it is by my installer, but not the changes done in the data folders, which is why the wipe is suggested. i think its role is replaced by the googlepartnersetup.apk, but i could be wrong.
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SetupWizard.apk replaces "provision.apk".
bestialbub said:
theres also some build prop differences; some unnecessary (gsm provider info), some improved (fingerprint for added apps in addition to patched market and added permissions), and the same ones necessary for apps like skype to run.
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Audio fix, which enhances EQUlizer and probably a 10% audio increase, and rotation support for games is another one..
the gsm props were actually very much needed, as Google for a period enabled provider checking, so if no gsm provider was there, you could not activate a google account, so instead of ppl getting lost without MarketEnabler on a clean device, i included it for safety reasons so next time, we're prepared for such checks.. so it all serves a purpose, if you like to know more, XDA has excellent information on those topics.
SetupWizard.apk replaces "provision.apk".
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thanks for the tip. i did concede i could be wrong, and you're right, i could find that small detail that setupwizard is known to replace functions for provision.apk. the same posts i'm finding on xda and cyanogenmod don't say anything about googlepartnersetup, however, yet its provided with gapps packages..
i also learn from demonstrated and practiced examples..
demonstrated examples i learned from, including your 1.2 rom shows your remove provision.apk and provide googlepartnersetup.apk, then reverse the decision in 1.4, i ASSUME based on signiture issues you had stated (i generally don't have those as i know i can re-use existing containers without having signature issues).
i also learned/ported from various sdk's, including google's sdk for gapp imports, and neither is required, but what is provided is sdksetup.apk.. me seeing a relation from sdksetup for an sdk/emu android device kinda indicates one might want googlepartnersetup as a counterpart on a physical device. (your 1.4 example does prove that doesn't have to be true).. but the google sdk shows that i don't need setupwizard.apk for google services either.
thought i'd relate, since most the general posted information i've seen on xda and cyanogenmod seem like vague gueses at best. though i suspect the people posting this information aren't necessarily the devs working closely with the files. just hobbists and modders making educated guesses like me.
Audio fix, which enhances EQUlizer and probably a 10% audio increase, and rotation support for games is another one..
the gsm props were actually very much needed, as Google for a period enabled provider checking, so if no gsm provider was there, you could not activate a google account, so instead of ppl getting lost without MarketEnabler on a clean device, i included it for safety reasons so next time, we're prepared for such checks.. so it all serves a purpose, if you like to know more, XDA has excellent information on those topics.
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i was refering to MY gsm provided build prop information, i wasn't ragging on your build prop or rom addons. i followed suit to the gtab tnt modrom and added DIFFERENT gsm provider information than yourself (service provider id, not google client information). but it made no difference in gapps present demonstrated performance as this information DOES NOT (the stuff i provided/borrowed from tntlite) get passed into the android system or database files, as no service provider id is listed when opening marketaccess.apk, as it does on a phone device that does genuinely have this information.
i do concede to the thread discussion, tho, DEXTERS ROM IS THE BEST AND ONLY FULL ROM MOD FOR THE A7 TABLET!!!
my gapps mod is only intended to provide google applications ommitted by the manufacture. nothing more.
thanks for the indirect market patching instructions!
thanks am going to retry and see what happends
bestialbub said:
but it made no difference in gapps present demonstrated performance as this information DOES NOT (the stuff i provided/borrowed from tntlite) get passed into the android system or database files, as no service provider id is listed when opening marketaccess.apk, as it does on a phone device that does genuinely have this information.
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Had the same issues, so i found the trick to be adding it in the boot.img using the default.prop, and it is added during bootup.. but now we're OT! so let's leave it at that.
a7 installation problem
these are the exat message i got (E:can't open/usb/update.zip)
(E:Can't mount USB:update.zip)
then underneath that it say (Finding update package)
then it say (Wait for 5 second)
(Installation time out)
(installation aborted)
(Formatting MISC)
these are all the thing it say during installation
these are the exat message i got was (E:can't open/usb/update.zip)
(E:Can't mount USB:update.zip)
then underneath that it say (Finding update package)
then it say (Wait for 5 second)
(Installation time out)
(installation aborted)
(Formatting MISC)
these are all the thing it say during installation
why post the same thing every 10 minutes?
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demamalu said:
My tablet was runnin dexter mod 1.4 with all the patches, buy always had problems with the sd card and the usb thumb and I also had problems running some applications. Right now my A7 is running [mod] update04-19 patched market + google apps and my tablet is working almost perfect. I think this mod is better that dexter mode.
I hope everybody use this mode in their tablets.
Thanks Bestialbub for your great job.
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That is not a mod it's the factory firmware with a patch to get market, I don't see in what way it is better than Dexter mod.
kevinppk said:
these are the exat message i got was (E:can't open/usb/update.zip)
(E:Can't mount USB:update.zip)
then underneath that it say (Finding update package)
then it say (Wait for 5 second)
(Installation time out)
(installation aborted)
(Formatting MISC)
these are all the thing it say during installation
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When this happen I remove the .zip from file name or just rename the file but most time removing. .zip does the job...
Hello!
Normally when I come on the XDA forums, I am asking a question, because I end up making a silly mistake in Android. I never like to put out promotional content for attention, and that is surely what I am not doing here, I am simply putting my work out there to see if the community would like it and if we do like, we can begin setting it up for other devices immediately. Now, I am not a skilled programmer at all, but I know SOME Visual Basic with Windows Forum Applications, so I thought "why not give it a shot." I just wanted to say that.
So I made this simple little application called Lineage OS Installer. Now, reading through some of the comments on the Lineage OS Reddit page, some people were asking if there would be an installer for Lineage OS, and there was a good amount of people who did not want one, which makes sense; people should know what they are getting into, and understanding ADB and Fastboot is indeed important. However, sometimes, there is a person who is not involved with ROMS, who is fine with OEM Android, who does not want to use root and what not, however, they want the latest version of android possible for their device, and that was a main point of CyanogenMod; users could get the latest version of android on their phone and tablet when their manufacturer/carrier stopped supporting it. However, the installation can be intimidating, and for the user that I just described earlier, the user who does not want root and what not, that could mean they won't bother attempting to install a custom ROM. However, this application automates the process; all the user needs to do is click some buttons, and press Enter a few times to install LineageOS.
I understand I don't need "permission" to distribute this program, however, I am just asking if the overall community would support the use of this program.
NOTICE: The applicaton may fail to start properly. I am investigating this issue. In the meantime, ensure you have the latest .NET Framerwork([url]https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=55170&desc=dotnet47[/URL]). If that doesn't work, try building from the source ([url]https://github.com/PJBeans/LineageOS-Installer/wiki/How-to-build-from-the-source[/URL])
This is a simple graphical and command-line based installer designed to make it easier to install LineageOS; this program is aimed at beginners. It is not the prettiest program ever, but it still works with my Nexus 7 2013 WiFi just fine
Possible support for flashing root may become available in the future.
If you notice a bug (an issue with the application), please submit it here: https://github.com/PJBeans/Lineage-OS-Installer/issues
Features:
[ADB and Fastboot is required, but NOT included.]
- Instructions for enabling Developer Options, USB Debugging, and OEM Unlocking (if required)
- Embedded browsers to download TWRP, GApps, and LineageOS
- Automatically creates a backup with TWRP.
- Flashes TWRP, LineageOS, and GApps with minimal user interaction; no TWRP interaction required! (The most they really do is confirm they want to unlock the bootloader)
If you have a secondary device that supports LineageOS, perhaps you could try out this program and report your results [in a reply to this thread]! In order to make this as stable as possible, it would require lots of testing, and I do not plan on buying each and every Android phone anytime soon. If you want to test this program, use the prebuilt version, as the Source version may contain undocumented bugs blocking one from their goal. Note that:
- It may screw up your device. No automatic restore process is implemented yet, so make sure to have some sort of recovery tool handy.
- When you report back, please include the version of the program you used (as identified in the Downloads section), along with your device.
- CURRENTLY ONLY FOR NEXUS (AND PROBABLY ONEPLUS) DEVICES! HTC, LG, AND OTHERS THAT REQUIRE A BOOTLOADER UNLOCK SITE OR DEVICES WITH A DIFFERENT INSTALLATION PROCESS ( *cough cough* SAMSUNG) ARE NOT SUPPORTED!!
Screenshots:
Coming Soon
Downloads:
Prebuilt
Prebuilt [VB.NET]: (Version 2.0) https://github.com/PJBeans/LineageOS-Installer/releases (Tested on Nexus 7 2013 WiFi)
CURRENTLY FOR TESTING PURPOSES! - "-development" will be removed in the program once the program is known to be stable.
VB.NET is primarily developed by chompy33 (PJBeans), and C# is primarily developed by Evilarceus. Each branch's source can be found below.
Source
Source: (Version 2.0-development) https://github.com/PJBeans/Lineage-OS-Installer (I encourage absolutely anyone to contribute, even if you would like to make just a minor change!)
Updates:
Past:
UPDATE 1.4.0 and 1.4.1(VB.NET)
(I never published 1.3.0, so here's 1.4.0)
- Scripts have been updated; the user no longer needs to interact with TWRP.
- There is one button to install.
- The script automatically backs up data, cache, and dalvik prior to wiping for installation (no backup before unlocking the bootloader, however)
- (1.4.1) Fix issue with application failing to start (Thanks, @dinesh_redhawk for pointing out this bug that I somehow missed!)
- (1.4.1) Update Installer
UPDATE 1.2.0 (VB.NET)
- User must type "yes" before starting the process to ensure they know to read everything and follow all instructions given.
- Support for GApps
- More messages for user instructions.
- Scripts should be working correctly.
UPDATE 1.1 (VB.NET)
- More Material Design
- 3 step installation (Unlock Bootloader, Flash Recovery, install LineageOS)
- Added a beautiful background image (IMO) of New York City on First Form
Current:
UPDATE 2.0 (VB.NET)
- Check out the release notes on GitHub (Prebuilt Download link)
What is your viewpoint on this? Would you actually want an installer to exist for those who are inexperienced with flashing ROMS?
Sorry for such as long post, and I did not put this in DevDB because it is not directly an Android project.
chompy33 said:
Hi,
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Normally when I come on the XDA forums, I am asking a question, because I end up making a silly mistake in Android. I never like to put out promotional content for attention, and that is surely what I am not doing here, I am simply putting my work out there to see if the community would like it and if we do like, we can begin setting it up for other devices immediately. Now, I am not a skilled programmer at all, but I know SOME Visual Basic with Windows Forum Applications, so I thought "why not give it a shot." I just wanted to say that.
So I made this simple little application called Lineage OS Installer. Now, reading through some of the comments on the Lineage OS Reddit page, some people were asking if there would be an installer for Lineage OS, and there was a good amount of people who did not want one, which makes sense; people should know what they are getting into, and understanding ADB and Fastboot is indeed important. However, sometimes, there is a person who is not involved with ROMS, who is fine with OEM Android, who does not want to use root and what not, however, they want the latest version of android possible for their device, and that was a main point of CyanogenMod; users could get the latest version of android on their phone and tablet when their manufacturer/carrier stopped supporting it. However, the installation can be intimidating, and for the user that I just described earlier, the user who does not want root and what not, that could mean they won't bother attempting to install a custom ROM. However, this application automates the process; all the user needs to do is click some buttons, and press Enter a few times to install Lineage OS.
I understand I don't need "permission" to distribute this program, however, I am just asking if the overall community would support the use of this program.
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This is a simple graphical and command-line based installer to make it easier to install LineageOS; this program is aimed at beginners. It is not the prettiest program ever, but it still works with my Nexus 7 2013 WiFi just fine
I did not add support for flashing google apps (gapps) yet, just because I do not know if we will use the same open-gapps package that was used in CyanogenMod, or if we would switch to something different.
Features:
[ADB and Fastboot is required, but NOT included.]
- Instructions to enabling Developer Options, USB Debugging, and OEM Unlocking (if required)
- a file called setup.bat, that will set up the directory where all the required files live
- Embedded browsers to download TWRP and LineageOS*
- Included script that runs `adb devices` to ensure device is recognized
- Installation script that sets up the device to install Lineage OS, and pushes LineageOS to the device.
- Gives instructions for steps that must be completed on the device (Wiping, flashing, etc.)
The program's installation script is finished; it does its job to install a ROM to a device; it will unlock the bootloader, flash TWRP, and push the lineageos image. (I substituted LineageOS for CyanogenMod 13 while testing). *The only thing unfinished it the embedded browser to download LineageOS.
I would not recommend using it currently as it is still in early development
Downloads:
Prebuilt: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B70zQND1cM1WQVFjYi0yZy1BVnc/view?usp=sharing
Source: https://github.com/PJBeans/Lineage-OS-Installer
I understand that the main focus with LineageOS right now is to set up the website, servers, and images, and I do not want to distract those users. But this is what I would like to ask anyone: Would you actually want an installer to exist for those who are inexperienced with flashing ROMS?
Sorry for such as long post, and I did not put this in DevDB because it is not directly an Android project.
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Ill be honest. This is most dangerous for inexperienced users. If something goes wrong then they have no idea how to fix or find out how to fix it.
If used it would be best suited for someone that does rom testing where they flash multiple times a day, but as you are required to use a pc I really dont see much use for it.
just my thoughts.
zelendel said:
Ill be honest. This is most dangerous for inexperienced users. If something goes wrong then they have no idea how to fix or find out how to fix it.
If used it would be best suited for someone that does rom testing where they flash multiple times a day, but as you are required to use a pc I really dont see much use for it.
just my thoughts.
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Thank you for your reply! I completely see what you mean; an inexperienced user could possibly freak out, perhaps disconnect the device while something was going on. Perhaps I/anyone else who contributes could add a support section clearly marked for troubleshooting, complete with a guide to reflash stock. If I/someone else did this, would that make it more friendly for beginners in your eyes?
chompy33 said:
Thank you for your reply! I completely see what you mean; an inexperienced user could possibly freak out, perhaps disconnect the device while something was going on. Perhaps I/anyone else who contributes could add a support section clearly marked for troubleshooting, complete with a guide to reflash stock. If I/someone else did this, would that make it more friendly for beginners in your eyes?
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Yes that make it more friendly for beginners.
I'd be happy to help this project. I could maybe create a UI for this if all goes well.
Also, you should try learning C# if you already know Visual Basic. It's more widely supported and requires less typing. I can still contribute, since I do know both C# and Visual Basic
I wonder if it would be too much to ask to have this program automatically make a NANDROID backup before starting. Incase an inexperienced user disconnected the device or did something to disrupt the install, and caused a soft brick or similar, the NANDROID backup could be restored, and the user could re-attempt, with no harm done.
evilarceus said:
I'd be happy to help this project. I could maybe create a UI for this if all goes well.
Also, you should try learning C# if you already know Visual Basic. It's more widely supported and requires less typing. I can still contribute, since I do know both C# and Visual Basic
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Thanks! The source is in the original post. The only thing that does not have a UI is the installation (although the current UI is pretty bad) I will try to learn C# as time goes on. If you would like to make part of the program in C#, feel free!
Doofitator said:
I know Visual Basic, and I'd be happy to help with the development of this application, too.
I also wonder if it would be too much to ask to have this program automatically make a NANDROID backup before starting. Incase an inexperienced user disconnected the device or did something to disrupt the install, the NANDROID backup could be restored, and the user could re-attempt, with no harm done.
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Thanks for your reply! The source is above. Creating a NANDROID back is a great idea, perhaps we could create an automatic restore option too.
I am worried by the usage by inexperienced users. They are more prone to panic and destroy their phone, which could lead to a bad name for lineageOS on many forums where they will complain that lineageOS just killed their phone, while they did'nt understand the simplest part of the process.
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This can be a tool very useful for experienced users who serially update phones of their many inexperienced friends.
I am doing just that (with around 50 differents phones to date) with my many friends of friends, and a tool like yours would simplify my job. For the moment, i keep a directory of directorys containing rooter scripts, recoverys, roms, gapps, utilities (adb, fastboot, odin, heindall,...) and have a multi-gigabyte library of those.
A utility who prepare a directory for a phone model, download rom, twrp/cwm, gapps, and do the phone rooting for every phone is a very desired thing, but it is a hell of a project to achieve.
So good luck with your project, and dont hesitate to ask me for help if you need, i would be proud to help you achieve your goal.
mlsoftlaberge said:
I am worried by the usage by inexperienced users. They are more prone to panic and destroy their phone, which could lead to a bad name for lineageOS on many forums where they will complain that lineageOS just killed their phone, while they did'nt understand the simplest part of the process.
BUT
This can be a tool very useful for experienced users who serially update phones of their many inexperienced friends.
I am doing just that (with around 50 differents phones to date) with my many friends of friends, and a tool like yours would simplify my job. For the moment, i keep a directory of directorys containing rooter scripts, recoverys, roms, gapps, utilities (adb, fastboot, odin, heindall,...) and have a multi-gigabyte library of those.
A utility who prepare a directory for a phone model, download rom, twrp/cwm, gapps, and do the phone rooting for every phone is a very desired thing, but it is a hell of a project to achieve.
So good luck with your project, and dont hesitate to ask me for help if you need, i would be proud to help you achieve your goal.
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I see what you mean, and I/other contributors will (hopefully) try to make this process very user friendly, so they won't need to panic. I guess developers could use this if they needed to install the ROM on multiple devices, though currently the installation is kind of slow. I appreciate your response!
chompy33 said:
I see what you mean, and I/other contributors will (hopefully) try to make this process very user friendly, so they won't need to panic. I guess developers could use this if they needed to install the ROM on multiple devices, though currently the installation is kind of slow. I appreciate your response!
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I would suggest that such a tool should be VERY wordy about telling the user what it is doing, and should NEVER suspend its apparent activity.
My experience (and it is commercial experience, with genuine products in the marketplace) is that the user will get nervous, and may do something unfortunate, if they fear that something has gone wrong...and they WILL fear this if there is no obvious activity for a long time...and "long time" might be only a few seconds.
So, to make this tool "safe", it should be continually reassuring the user that it is doing something. There should be a progress bar, that keeps moving. There should also be a text section that keeps updating what is going on. If the operation under way will take awhile, then this text session should (every few seconds) remind the user "I'm still working on this...estimated time to completion is XX seconds" (or some such).
This operation IS dangerous, particularly if the user does something wrong. So keep reassuring the user that everything is fine.
jiml8 said:
I would suggest that such a tool should be VERY wordy about telling the user what it is doing, and should NEVER suspend its apparent activity.
My experience (and it is commercial experience, with genuine products in the marketplace) is that the user will get nervous, and may do something unfortunate, if they fear that something has gone wrong...and they WILL fear this if there is no obvious activity for a long time...and "long time" might be only a few seconds.
So, to make this tool "safe", it should be continually reassuring the user that it is doing something. There should be a progress bar, that keeps moving. There should also be a text section that keeps updating what is going on. If the operation under way will take awhile, then this text session should (every few seconds) remind the user "I'm still working on this...estimated time to completion is XX seconds" (or some such).
This operation IS dangerous, particularly if the user does something wrong. So keep reassuring the user that everything is fine.
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Good idea! Thanks for the suggestion, we will definitely incorporate this.
Two thumbs up for a LineageOS installer, plz develop it
Definitely having a LineageOS installer is a great idea!
Unquestionably, it will permit people who are not experienced with flashing custom roms(which accounts for a lot of people), nor do they have an interest in learning about that(e.g. my mom) to easily get the latest Android build on their Android phone (which may no longer be supported by the OEM; an e.g. AT&T LG G2).
44alexsmith said:
Definitely having a LineageOS installer is a great idea!
Unquestionably, it will permit people who are not experienced with flashing custom roms(which accounts for a lot of people), nor do they have an interest in learning about that(e.g. my mom) to easily get the latest Android build on their Android phone (which may no longer be supported by the OEM; an e.g. AT&T LG G2).
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This is exactly what I am trying to achieve. Provided I/contributors make a stable build by the time a stable build of LineageOS comes out (or at least around there, it's an open source project so there is no official date), it could give LineageOS a reputation of being a very easy ROM to install. Thanks for the reply.
Creating an installer for users who don't event know what's going on from the inside is useless IMO.
If the installer fail to flash they get stuck with a bricked device and don't know what to do.
I added a .gitignore to reduce cloning size and keeping things clean: https://github.com/PJBeans/Lineage-OS-Installer/pull/1
If you want, add me as a collaborator on the GitHub project so I don't have to keep on making pull requests.
p4rot said:
Creating an installer for users who don't event know what's going on from the inside is useless IMO.
If the installer fail to flash they get stuck with a bricked device and don't know what to do.
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Just FYI, I did say earlier that this installer should have an automatic NANDROID backup take place, so phones would be safe if something happened.
Doofitator said:
Just FYI, I did say earlier that this installer should have an automatic NANDROID backup take place, so phones would be safe if something happened.
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We will attempt to add this (or at least guide the user) later on. Thanks for your response!
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I added a .gitignore to reduce cloning size and keeping things clean: https://github.com/PJBeans/Lineage-OS-Installer/pull/1
If you want, add me as a collaborator on the GitHub project so I don't have to keep on making pull requests.
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I set up a live chat on Telegram, the link is on the Repository's Readme. I appreciate your commitment to this project!
I sent an invite at https://github.com/PJBeans/Lineage-OS-Installer/invitations
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We will attempt to add this (or at least guide the user) later on. Thanks for your response!
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If possible, I think making this a mandatory step would be better - we don't want people skipping it and then complaining later.