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This is something that can benefit ALL HTC Touch Screen Devices

I have been trying to work on something that will enable some sort of Haptic feed back on my XV6800. The Haptic feed back is a feature that enables vibration to the screen when you press on the screen. Such as the Voyager.
I dont intend to try and make this just to work with the XV6800 but for ALL HTC Touch Screen Devices and if it can others too.
There is a feature on my phone and on many others that allows our phones to play a sound when the screen is taped. I thought of an idea of why not replace the sound with vibration?
There is already a CAB out there that changes the dial tone into a vibration feedback ( when you press the dial buttons ) but it doesnt do much for the rest of the applications or screen.
So far I have been working on this for a couple of days but havent had much time to put much effort into it.
I was hoping that some developers / hackers can help out the cause and help develope or create a feature that enables this on ALL HTC Touch Screen Devices.
If I do find a way to do this I'll post my findings here, but any help to make this a reality would be gladly appreciated.

I was just reading about this very thing HERE: http://www.immersion.com/vt/haptics-for-mobile.php
I was wondering if somebody was going to give it a try. Good luck with it, BOO

it has already been done, and someone posted it up on these forums a while ago, probably buried extremely deeply by now... i forgot the name but i just know it's out there and although it worked, i quickly worried about battery life/hardware issues, so i uninstalled. i'll try to find it for you

bootheresa said:
I was just reading about this very thing HERE: http://www.immersion.com/vt/haptics-for-mobile.php
I was wondering if somebody was going to give it a try. Good luck with it, BOO
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Thank you. I am hoping that we can get this done.
I mean we are constantly trying to make our touch screen devices finger friendly. We enlarge buttons, the creation of Touch FLO and the Cube, enlarging menus and so on.
My theory is why not combine all these I deas with Haptic feedback and make it even more finger friendly and try to limit the use of the stylus. If made possible this would be able to work on any HTC Touch screen device or any WM Touch screen device out there.
This would also help users that have a hard time inputing anything into their phone. For example, some one trying to make a text message through t9 or even less then that just pressing on the screen to access a short cut with out having to pound their touch screen until it inputs that they are trying to press. This would help with that because it will acknowledge the input that was made.
Just an Idea

Azimuth21 said:
it has already been done, and someone posted it up on these forums a while ago, probably buried extremely deeply by now... i forgot the name but i just know it's out there and although it worked, i quickly worried about battery life/hardware issues, so i uninstalled. i'll try to find it for you
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If this has been made possible for the entire touch screen and all applications including the standard OS please inform me of this find. I would gladly appreciate it.

yeah it was an application that ran in the background (maybe as a service, i don't remember), but every single tap created a vibrate feedback. argh i just looked around for it and i have no idea where to find it. it was in some thread, someone's reply had the app attached to it. something about how he knew someone who was working on it, and waited for that person's permission to post the app here on xda-dev. sigh.

Azimuth21 said:
yeah it was an application that ran in the background (maybe as a service, i don't remember), but every single tap created a vibrate feedback. argh i just looked around for it and i have no idea where to find it. it was in some thread, someone's reply had the app attached to it. something about how he knew someone who was working on it, and waited for that person's permission to post the app here on xda-dev. sigh.
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Interesting. If it has been done already I wonder if we can replicate it and put it on this thread. That is if you dont find the link to the page or the program it self.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=354890&highlight=Vibrate&page=2
Around post #15. I do not know if it works or not..

appless03 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=354890&highlight=Vibrate&page=2
Around post #15. I do not know if it works or not..
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Thanks this is a good find.
Ill see if i can make it available using another method. Because they reported that it worked on every other tap of the screen and that it runs the battery down faster too.
What I might try to do is have mine work but have the option to disable it ( like the way you do when you disable screen tap sounds) to save battery power.

[email protected]$ said:
Thanks this is a good find.
Ill see if i can make it available using another method. Because they reported that it worked on every other tap of the screen and that it runs the battery down faster.
What I might try to do is have mine work but have the option to disable it ( like the way you do when you disable screen tap sounds) to save battery power.
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Hay [email protected]$
True like u said, i've tried it 2, but it do not respond to every fingertouch, if u can figur a way for an app that will respond 2 every touch even the small ones (where u don'nt need 2 hold for a sek before it regonise and verb.).. that will be really great

Cobra2 said:
Hay [email protected]$
True like u said, i've tried it 2, but it do not respond to every fingertouch, if u can figur a way for an app that will respond 2 every touch even the small ones (where u don'nt need 2 hold for a sek before it regonise and verb.).. that will be really great
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So far I have planned some steps on ways to do it through the registry but it is not perfect. I am not an expert programmer but I can give it a shot, but it might take a while since I am not as great as the experts here in XDA.
But I'll do what I can. If I do find a solution I will post it here, but any help to make this project possible would be great.

I would be happy if my phone would just vibrate on keyboard input.

I am running this older vibro cab. Works very well however...
The vibration lasts aslong as your finger has contact on the screen. It would be better if it just gave a quick blip of vibro each touch maybe?
When you slide a cube etc it virbos the whole movement.
MM

MaxMotus said:
I am running this older vibro cab. Works very well however...
The vibration lasts aslong as your finger has contact on the screen. It would be better if it just gave a quick blip of vibro each touch maybe?
When you slide a cube etc it virbos the whole movement.
MM
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Do you happen to have the CAB with you? Maybe I can find a way to change the effect this program does when you press the screen and lower the vibration feed back.
If I can do that then I can maybe create some registry settings to make the same effect but just replacing the sound that is emulated when you tap the screen. That way you can disable it or enable it when you want it. ( In case you need to save battery or something )

The length of the vibration should be shorter, other than that it's a really good tool.

wow i must be stupid. i just posted a thread about this yesterday. anyway, it'd be cool if we could figure out a way to just incorporate it into the registry, probly wouldn't use as much battary and stuff then.

This has been done already on this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=354890&page=2. On the second page, Kpyto posted a download link for it. I haven't tested it yet though so I can't tell you how well it works.

hows this coming along?

I tried the VOA program mentioned above, but i don't really like it - it's simply annoying by vibrating all the time when scrolling trough lists, or attempting to bring up a tap-and-hold context menu. Not to mention additional battery drain caused by the motor running for such long periods of time.
For me, much better screen tap confirmation is a very short vibra pulse - i often use Vibrate(50) as a confirmation in my mortscripts. That's only 50 milliseconds, but it' enough to be clearly felt, and since the motor is powered only for such short time, it causes almost no additional battery drain. I'd really love to see an application creating such confirmation instead of the screen tap sound.
I'd just like it to have customizable vibration time - since the minimal time needed to make vibration even noticeable can probably vary from device to device, and play nice with fTouchFlo - since both capture touchscreen events there are probably possible conflicts.
Good luck with the development. I hope you'll be able to realize this great idea

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I tried the VOA program mentioned above, but i don't really like it - it's simply annoying by vibrating all the time when scrolling trough lists, or attempting to bring up a tap-and-hold context menu. Not to mention additional battery drain caused by the motor running for such long periods of time.
For me, much better screen tap confirmation is a very short vibra pulse - i often use Vibrate(50) as a confirmation in my mortscripts. That's only 50 milliseconds, but it' enough to be clearly felt, and since the motor is powered only for such short time, it causes almost no additional battery drain. I'd really love to see an application creating such confirmation instead of the screen tap sound.
I'd just like it to have customizable vibration time - since the minimal time needed to make vibration even noticeable can probably vary from device to device, and play nice with fTouchFlo - since both capture touchscreen events there are probably possible conflicts.
Good luck with the development. I hope you'll be able to realize this great idea
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Lets hope some one makes this. isn't there anyone on these forums with great programing skills?

[IDEA] G-meter based scrolling

Hi all...
Not too sure how popular this would be, but today whilst browsing on my Diamond, I started thinking that it might be nice to be able to move the page around just by tilting or jerking the device in the desired direction.
Obviously, it would be inconvenient for this feature to be active all the time, so it would be nice to be able to activate it by maybe moving the device in a particular way, or pressing a hotkey.
Scrolling with your finger is fine and everything, but it's often an inexact science, whereas a careful tilt with a smooth scroll could move the page to exactly where you want it to be.
I started looking at the SDK, but I haven't had the time to really get into it thus far. If nobody thinks this is a good idea, I might just try it out myself if I have the time.
Comments/ideas/flames welcome

rdwill999 said:
Hi all...
Not too sure how popular this would be, but today whilst browsing on my Diamond, I started thinking that it might be nice to be able to move the page around just by tilting or jerking the device in the desired direction.
Obviously, it would be inconvenient for this feature to be active all the time, so it would be nice to be able to activate it by maybe moving the device in a particular way, or pressing a hotkey.
Scrolling with your finger is fine and everything, but it's often an inexact science, whereas a careful tilt with a smooth scroll could move the page to exactly where you want it to be.
I started looking at the SDK, but I haven't had the time to really get into it thus far. If nobody thinks this is a good idea, I might just try it out myself if I have the time.
Comments/ideas/flames welcome
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there are two posts about this type of program
one is veuflo and other gcontoller

Ah, I did a quick search and scanned the rest of this forum and didn't spot them, so apologies for that. I'll check them out. Many thanks.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410694
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429569

GScroll

Does anyone know about this ..looks like a cool app...ordering it right now
http://www.handango.com/catalog/Pro...&deviceId=2062&platformId=30&productId=239378

wow looks awsome, ill try the trial

looks neat - the question is how to enable/disable it without it interfering with the normal features of the phone...

basically a basic version of ftouchsl, ftouchsl has gestures though

xboxhaxorz said:
basically a basic version of ftouchsl, ftouchsl has gestures though
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It's using the touch panel though- the capacitive part of the screen...not the main screen itself.

Ok, I bought the app, but the installer doesn't work on Vista, can anyone please provide me with a .cab for this? Thanks!

its in program files or the directory you saved it in. so im installing right now, well tell you what I think of it very soon!

might hsve been just the way my settings were but when I used this it did not seem one bit functional, I advise you to try the trial first. I uninstalled it slmost immediately. Just ststing mu experiences yours may be different

Wow, how secret is this. Need to register at Handango to download a trial that expires after 2 minutes, YES in words: TWO MINUTES.
And it comes as .msi file that requires .NET 3.5
Hell that's a challenge to try this thing out.
Hopefully it will not be considered as warez if I attach the cab here.

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Wow, how secret is this. Need to register at Handango to download a trial that expires after 2 minutes, YES in words: TWO MINUTES.
And it comes as .msi file that requires .NET 3.5
Hell that's a challenge to try this thing out.
Hopefully it will not be considered as warez if I attach the cab here.
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Yes. It will be considered as Warez to attach here since Handango needs registration to download this file which is mandatory as per their policy. Removing the attachment from here and please refrain from re-attachment else its bansville
Its like XDA needing registration to post something in here

Hey
I just tested the app.
I think the scrolling is not that best, or I m even doing wrong.
But I like the feature to assign Applications to the Buttons.
So You have the 4 buttons ( home, back, call, end ), and
you can assign 4 Apps to its touchpanel.
So we can map a Taskmanager to a Button.
Maybe someone can test the scrolling, and tell his results
greets doena

I attached the trial .cab file for everyone (without windows, .NET, etc) to try...
For me the program works good. The scrolling feature will help a lot of us, who can't easily find the directional buttons...

I HAVE POSTED A WARNING JUST 2 POSTS ABOVE YOURS. IF ANYONE CANT UNDERSTAND WHAT IT MEANS PM ME AND I'LL EXPLAIN. DO NOT POST THE CAB FILES HERE, HANDANGO DOESNT NEED XDA TO ACT LIKE MIRRORS. NEXT ATTACHMENT HERE WILL SEND THIS THREAD TO CLOSURE AND NON OBEYING MEMBER TO BANSVILLE

doena said:
Hey
I think the scrolling is not that best, or I m even doing wrong.
Maybe someone can test the scrolling, and tell his results
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Yes, the scrolling through G-Sensor is not the best experience in my opinion too. I tested this in TotalCommander and contacts list. It's too slow for me.
But the swipe scroll works quite fine. It's like a whole page down every swipe.
Yes. It will be considered as Warez to attach here since Handango needs registration to download this file which is mandatory as per their policy
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Understood. Thanks and sorry!

It works fine for me, but it doesn't work for games (I tested it with Gstunt).... Maybe future releases will solve the problem...

I tried it for the 2 minutes it was worth. The scrolling is really just one movement up or down at a time...not really kinetic scrolling. It was a little tricky to get it on and off also (waiting to feel the vibration of it comin to life). I may buy it though...for the price I'll play with it...it does keep your figners off of the screen.

I played with the demo this morning instead of doing work.
Not bad with the scrolling, although it does not recognize 100% of the finger swipes. I couldn't get tap and tilt to work at all. And the slide over the center key was glitchy.
What I really would prefer is an app that will scroll up and down just by me tapping, but not clicking, the screen. It seems Gscroll could add that feature pretty easily.

The demo cab is available at the programmer's website, so it is neither "warez" nor is there any need to post it here. The website is www.mobilesrc.com.

Similar issues for me...
For the money, it's a reasonable piece of software, but useablility... it's not that good in my opinion. As mentioned above, it's far too slow. One 'swipe' moves one item in the list. It needs to be kinetic like a finger swipe on the screen. And it's not that responsive to touch. Sometimes it'll respond OK, other times it ignores my touch on the pad.
Great idea... needs a little more work

^is this guy for real, or what?
didn't he see the 2 posts from the mod in this thread?
well, look like the thread will be closing soon.

The rubbishness of windows comes through very quickly

I got a bit suckered by all the good reviews for this phone on so many websites and bought it yesterday. I've had a long time [misplaced] affection for windows phones. I say misplaced because every single model I've owned has let me down.
The sense interface is great. Windows is not. I've just made 16 attempts at trying to login to windows live, struggling each time to input a 20 char secure password on the dinky keyboard and when i finally got the password right, i succeeded in invoking the 'too many failed logins' mode of windows live. Nice.
why is this stuff so difficult for windows mobile phones? why does the phone not go into landscape mode for EVERY application? why is that so difficult to implement? Why did HTC not put a bloody switch for landscape mode? you have a wide screen which would make an onscreen keyborad far more friendly yet you're still stuck trying to hit the 'sweet spot' on a portrait-mode keyboard!??! Not only are you stuck in portait mode but you no longer have a stylus to help you hit those keys!
The initial WOW factor has disappeared for me and I've only had the phone for a day!
can someone help me with some tips on landscape mode? is there some way i can map one of the hard keys to be a landscape mode switch? or some software that does something similar?
thanks!

Install BSB Tweaks this allows landscape for any appplication
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=589305

I tried but didn't seem to work for me. maybe i was doing something wrong?
i enabled the tickbox for IE and after the soft reset i tried running it but it did nothing when i rotated the screen. Am I missing something here?

try using Gyrator .. It works on every application

aloms said:
can someone help me with some tips on landscape mode? is there some way i can map one of the hard keys to be a landscape mode switch? or some software that does something similar?
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I've just made an app that does just that. Have a look at PLToggle in my sig.

Calm down mate, trust me, windows mobile is by far the best OS out there for mobiles. The only reason everyone prefers the iphone is because of its usability, apart from that theres not much you can do but 'get an app for that', however thanks to this forum, you can do almost anything with a windows mobile device, especially one as powerful as the leo. You just need to get used to it, if sense is bugging you, get spb shell or another ui. And of course theres gonna be loads of problems with it, its pretty new, but its good points strongly outway its bad points (oh and might I add, you'll be getting all your tech support from this site, not htc, trust me), so just give it some time and you'll realise, after 'making it yours' how awesome a phone it is.
If the keyboard isnt doing it for you, download a new one! (thats the great thing about winmo) the two popular ones at the moment are swype ( a completely different style of keyboard) or finger keyboard. I personally like the one htc supply you with, heres a tweak taken from this thread which will lower the sensitivy of the screen which makes typing much easier. Alternatively, bsb tweaks can do this all for you from its menu.
Oh and about the rotate thing, on xanny tech's pandora rom, he has a little execuatable file in the start menu with rotates everything, and its mapped to a long press of the send key, so thats pretty useful, im not running his rom anymore but if you know anything about flashing, flash his first, its very good indeed and has lots of tweaks and useful stuff preinstalled.
Hope that helps a little, if not just ask

thanks for your help mate. having bought into a 24 month contract I'm pretty much stuck with getting to learn the phone whether i like it or not.

aloms said:
thanks for your help mate. having bought into a 24 month contract I'm pretty much stuck with getting to learn the phone whether i like it or not.
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I agree with [★]. Once you know it better, you'll get to love it. There's so much under the hood of this thing that yes, you'll find a few things that you don't like, but they'll be outweighed by the things that you do

aloms said:
The sense interface is great. Windows is not. I've just made 16 attempts at trying to login to windows live, struggling each time to input a 20 char secure password on the dinky keyboard and when i finally got the password right, i succeeded in invoking the 'too many failed logins' mode of windows live. Nice
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You, Sir, need to check out my thread, which would surely have come up if you had used the search function. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5197442 Windows Live/Hotmail etc seem to only take 16 characters. Anything after that is ignored. But the Windows Live application on mobile accepts more than 16 and will try and authenticate with everything you type in. 20 character password will not work. Reduce your pass to 16 characters or less and it should work. Post back in this thread to let me know if this sorts your issue out.

If it's a keyboard you're after then try Swype. Have a search for it. I too had a lot of sensitivity problems with the keyboard and it would take ages to type a simple email. Swype solved that. It's a lot less sensitive than the native keyboard and I used SIP to make it my default. In terms of landscape mode, try using Opera instead of IE (although Opera lacks flash). BSB Tweaks will handle the rest although I don't use it myself.
Trust me, stick with the phone and, with a few tweaks to have it running how you like it, you won't look back!

Just return the darn phone, smack it to the floor and trample it good, or learn to use it since you've bought it. Please save yourself over a high blood pressure leading to a stroke, my friend. It's only a phone.. (but then there's always iPhones for usability's sake, whatever it means)

aloms said:
The initial WOW factor has disappeared for me and I've only had the phone for a day!
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Ok, you need to calm down a tad. Ok, the phone is not perfect. However, there is endless configurability for the phone. The best thing you could ever have done was to come to this site where there is a tweak for almost anything.
Sit down, fasten your seatbelt and take a look around. You need an open mind. The HD2 is no iphone. It's the iphone killer. Just needs a little tweaking that's all.
Alternatively, you could ditch it and join the bandwagon, I mean iphone!

Try Swype, best KB I hve used on a phone, my mate with an Iphone thought it was great and was going to look for it for the Iphone, once tweaked the HD2 is the best mob by far!
I was doubtful when I first had it like you say I thought I should have gone for the Iphone but now I am so happy with it

Windows is rubbish because of the HTC keyboard?? Ok...
Isnt the whole ADVANTAGE of winmo that if you dont like something you can change it?

The advantage of WinMo is the tweaking and Office Mobile My wife had a HTC Hero for 2 months and at the end she begged me to get her a new Windows Phone because the freaking Android won't open rich text format files (unfortunately in her job she is obliged to use rtf as standart file format) without great hassle even with all possible office replacements I cound find on the net. Not to speak of that, that even the enhanced HTC mail client for Android can't open messages that are sent from mail.bg (a very popular bulgarian web mail service). That was the end for Android

Hotmail mail on the HD1 was a pain, same on the HD2. Gmail is working perfectly though which is very annoying when like me, you use Hotmail on your desktop to access your Gmail emails...

aloms said:
I got a bit suckered by all the good reviews for this phone on so many websites and bought it yesterday. I've had a long time [misplaced] affection for windows phones. I say misplaced because every single model I've owned has let me down.
The sense interface is great. Windows is not. I've just made 16 attempts at trying to login to windows live, struggling each time to input a 20 char secure password on the dinky keyboard and when i finally got the password right, i succeeded in invoking the 'too many failed logins' mode of windows live. Nice.
why is this stuff so difficult for windows mobile phones? why does the phone not go into landscape mode for EVERY application? why is that so difficult to implement? Why did HTC not put a bloody switch for landscape mode? you have a wide screen which would make an onscreen keyborad far more friendly yet you're still stuck trying to hit the 'sweet spot' on a portrait-mode keyboard!??! Not only are you stuck in portait mode but you no longer have a stylus to help you hit those keys!
The initial WOW factor has disappeared for me and I've only had the phone for a day!
can someone help me with some tips on landscape mode? is there some way i can map one of the hard keys to be a landscape mode switch? or some software that does something similar?
thanks!
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First of all get rid of that IDIOTIC iPhone imitation keyboard and replace it with the divine fingerkeyboard from xda.
And then deactivate the utterly unpredictive xt9 "predictive" (more like vindictive) text input.
I did these steps and now I can FINALLY type.
An $800 phone and it takes a donationware sw keyboard to make it usable

Aloms - I had the same problem with my Ipod Touch in the beginning. Don't worry, you will get use to it. BTW HD2 keyboard is better especially in landscape

I will join this thread with my three questions.
I have converted to the dark side and bought iPhone 3GS after having gone through a lot of phones and OSes. I have given up on WinMo (using HTC Pro) basically because of 3 issues:
1. Phone app in the sense of its responsiveness. I mean, someone is calling - first 2 seconds the hardware buttons light up, next 2 seconds the phone starts to vibrate, next 2 seconds there is a sound. Is it happening on the HD2 too? How responsive is it? Plus does it have a good gsm reception? With my HTC Pro I had to keep on testing different radio roms and have not been satisfied ever...
2. When you use HD2 say 4-5 days or longer, does it slow down over time. I mean especially when you use contacts with 1000 entries etc, or is it instant?
3. On a brand new HD2 just charged, when you load in your 1000 contacts, does it have an instant search of a contact in the contacts app? Or an email address in the "To" section when you want to write an email?
Frankly speaking, HD2 looks very tempting, but I am afraid mainly of the 3 above areas and am thinking to wait for Windows 7 or something?
PS. HTC Pro is still with me, but in the drawer...

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Hotmail mail on the HD1 was a pain, same on the HD2.
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I've had a Diamond, a HD, and now a HD2 and I can say with 100% confidence that I never had 1 single problem with Hotmail. I've seen a very small number of users on here with issues and every single one of them has turned out to be user error.
I suggest the same in this instance as it works flawlessly when set up correctly, which 99.9% of users do.

Problem hitting links in Opera

Hi All,
I currently have a Touch HD and have been wondering about upgrading to a HD2. So I went into my local phone shop and asked if I could play with one. Everything was going well until I opened Opera and went to the website www.tvguide.co.uk (which I use a lot). It looked great but it would take me about 5 attempts to hit any of the links on the screen unless I zoomed them to be far larger than I wanted them to be.
Just to be sure this wasn't a problem with the particular handset I had I went to another store and tried another device. Got exactly the same problem. I have no such problems on my HD.
I have heard rumours that the capacitive screens are not as accurate as resistive ones but my experience was far worse than I was expecting.
Has anyone else experienced issues with accuracy of link tapping in Opera ?

dcoales said:
Hi All,
I currently have a Touch HD and have been wondering about upgrading to a HD2. So I went into my local phone shop and asked if I could play with one. Everything was going well until I opened Opera and went to the website www.tvguide.co.uk (which I use a lot). It looked great but it would take me about 5 attempts to hit any of the links on the screen unless I zoomed them to be far larger than I wanted them to be.
Just to be sure this wasn't a problem with the particular handset I had I went to another store and tried another device. Got exactly the same problem. I have no such problems on my HD.
I have heard rumours that the capacitive screens are not as accurate as resistive ones but my experience was far worse than I was expecting.
Has anyone else experienced issues with accuracy of link tapping in Opera ?
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There's a setting (in opera's config) that determines the minimum zoom level for links to work at. It was probably just that. The same was on the HD, so you'd at least have to double-tap before you could hit a link, but apps such as HDTweak could change that, so you didn't have to zoom.
Was it maybe that?
Also, when you've got your hands on one of these, you can do a screen align so that the device gets used to how you touch the screen, rather than some generic "lots of people press it like this" kind of setting.
Just a couple of thoughts that could explain your problems.

Browsing on the HD2 currently leaves a lot to be desired, or certainly in comparison to Safari on the iPhone and iPod Touch which is what I was using previously and is the benchmark other mobile devices have to live up to. However, that can and hopefully will be rectified as the available browsers are updated and made better.
The bundled version of Opera, despite supporting multi-touch, just doesn't seem fluid enough to me and, as mentioned in this thread, selecting links without zooming can be a serious pain in the arse even with the hacks and options set up to make it easier.

i thought that initially but then realised that i was trying to be too precise and maybe aiming a little off it.
now i just hit the link area with my big thumb and it seems to figure to click the link directly in the middle of where i pressed.
for example browsing this forum i find no problems at all with trying to click a page number

I dont think pressing the link was really much of a problem to me. If you double tap once and still can't hit the link, just hold down on the link for like half a second and it'll click through.

OK, thanks for the tips guys. I don't think it was the minimum zoom feature because at a fixed zoom level it would eventually recognize the tap after maybe 5 or 6 attempts.
However, I will try to get hold of another one, reset the minimum zoom, recalibrate the screen and then try pressing and holding with my thumb and see how I get on.
Cheers,
David

I have problems hitting links and scrolling through a combo box. When I try to scroll through the contents of a combo box with more than 20 entries, the whole page scrolls up and down...

There is a simple registry tweak in the sticky thread "hints and tips" that allows you to click links easily without zooming. I've found that it works very well, and I can click the very smallest of links. The only site I've found that doesn't work so well is this one for some reason
In the hints and tips thread it advises you to change the threshold to thirty something I think. I found this still didn't rectify this issue, so I cahnged it to "2" and it works brilliantly

johncmolyneux said:
There's a setting (in opera's config) that determines the minimum zoom level for links to work at. It was probably just that. The same was on the HD, so you'd at least have to double-tap before you could hit a link, but apps such as HDTweak could change that, so you didn't have to zoom.
Was it maybe that?
Also, when you've got your hands on one of these, you can do a screen align so that the device gets used to how you touch the screen, rather than some generic "lots of people press it like this" kind of setting.
Just a couple of thoughts that could explain your problems.
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How do you perform the screen align?
Cheers