Coreplayer, Smooth than laggy, and perfect in benches?? - HD2 General

Hey guys just got a slick HD2 from Tmobile, and I wanted to check out Coreplayer. I started playing a few WVGA videos with decent bitrate, and towards the first 10seconds video played fine than started to lag and drop frames, then when I skip to a different part, it plays smooth for another 10secs than lags. When I run benchmarks, the video scores 120%.
I am using these settings for optimal playback.
Tools:
>Settings:
>Video:
Video Output: DirectDraw
Video Quality: High
Smooth Zoom: On
Dither: Checked
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>Direct Draw:
Uncheck Both “Overlay with colorkey” and “Use blitting instead of overlay”
Check “Use device stretching for blitting”
Overlay format: YUY2 (or RGB to enable Dither)
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These settings give me best visual quality, tell me if there are better settings.
However, the above problem occurs, in many different configurations.
I believe the process priority is the concern here, I think Coreplayer auto ranks up the priority during benches but doesent seem to do so while playing, most likely to conserve battery life.
I was reading a long time ago about a program that increases process priority in Windows Mobile, and was hoping that it may do the trick. So can anyone lead me to the rite softwares???
---Edit: I tryed to change the priority but it is always set to highest, in benchmark mode and in normal playback. Does anyone know what could be the problem.

roteplex said:
These settings give me best visual quality, tell me if there are better settings.
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I think those are pretty much optimal. (RGB overlays are definitely slower than YUY2).
Try putting the phone in "airplane mode" and then rebooting it; that sometimes helps. If it's doing something like checking for emails in the background it starts to judder badly.

if core player has a buffer size setting try setting it higher try setting it to 32864kb. or do what i do and use TCPMP for videos. it has that setting and it works great for all vids. oh and its free! search the forums for TCPMP if core player ends up not working for you.

I've found that CP benches don't mean Sh*t, I can get 175% in a bench but play it back normally and it still drops frames

DMAND said:
I've found that CP benches don't mean Sh*t, I can get 175% in a bench but play it back normally and it still drops frames
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Yeah, the benchmark obviously displays average frame-rate; what you need to know is the time taken to render the single slowest, most complicated frame.

If I choose DirectDraw my device.exe locks up. I have had to stick to GDI. I only drop 1 frame every 300 to 500

sancmat said:
If I choose DirectDraw my device.exe locks up. I have had to stick to GDI. I only drop 1 frame every 300 to 500
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That is probably because you are not using the other settings correctly: YUY2 overlays, etc.

sancmat said:
If I choose DirectDraw my device.exe locks up. I have had to stick to GDI. I only drop 1 frame every 300 to 500
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Selecting DirectDraw alone will make CorePlayer crash. You need to make sure you set all the other settings in the 1st post too and then it runs much smoother than GDI.

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Video playback problem (not that it's slow). Garbled screen.

So it seems that I'm unable to play back any video format besides WMV.
WMV's play back fine while other formats (e.g. xvid, divx) do not play back at all. Coreplayer crashes to today screen or shows me a green garbled screen with vertical lines.
WMP just freezes and does nothing.
Is this a known issue (I didn't find anything using search)?
Any format of audio plays back perfectly fine (as long as it is not embedded in a video).
I had this, you need to change the Video driver to Raw frame buffer and all will be well. I use TCPMP and this was what I had to do for it to work.
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I had this, you need to change the Video driver to Raw frame buffer and all will be well. I use TCPMP and this was what I had to do for it to work.
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I had done this at first initially too, but simdeo (fellow member) suggested Imageon setting, but NOT Imageon Hardware decoder. This has massively improved speed and visual quality, but you will get intermittent lines across the interface, but not in full screen mode. Settings should be:
TCPMP:
Video Driver = ATI IMAGEON
Buffering = Microdrive (ticked)
Advanced = Tick only: D-Pad, Use System Vol, Benchmark (none od these settings affect performance, just my preference - but selecting other options may adversly affect performance)
Direct Draw = YV12 and tick 'Overlay with colorkey' only.
That's it. Best performance to date and can play torrent or own DVD rips perfectly, providing they were not encoded as high as 640x480.
I'm having the same problems but cannot for the life of me find any settings on Coreplayer that will let me change the buffer settings or the driver.
I'm sure I'm missing something here.
Coreplayer version =1.0.4 build 716
It's the latest version afaik.
Adey
Ok, I found the settings in Coreplayer (yeah, I know, should have looked harder..) and all is now well.
Ok, so I've got really decent playback from standard 350mb XVid TV programs but I'm still having what appear to be buffering problems.
Does anyone know what the ideal buffer settings are?
Adey
I have found that overclocking the CPU yields in much better playback (although not perfect).
If I want to view a 640x480 video I run the CPU at 728 Mhz (what program would allow higher?), but still the fps is not up to par. I would say the playback is around 90-95%.
Calavaro said:
I have found that overclocking the CPU yields in much better playback (although not perfect).
If I want to view a 640x480 video I run the CPU at 728 Mhz (what program would allow higher?), but still the fps is not up to par. I would say the playback is around 90-95%.
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Hi Calavaro. What app are you using to o/c the CPU? & exactly what settings do you use? Oh and lastly what's the power consumtion like if left on 728 Mhz all the time?
Cheers.
mackaby007 said:
Hi Calavaro. What app are you using to o/c the CPU? & exactly what settings do you use? Oh and lastly what's the power consumtion like if left on 728 Mhz all the time?
Cheers.
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we use PHM to overclock our device, if you set to 728 and push mail and bluetooth all the time, you won't last for whole day, maybe just about 7 hours. But really you don't need your device on 728 all the time, and personally i think 728 is a bit unstable, so i use 662 when my device is on, otherwise 228 the rest of the time to save battery.
You MUST disable the internal scale from the PHM setting, otherwise it won't work
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we use PHM to overclock our device, if you set to 728 and push mail and bluetooth all the time, you won't last for whole day, maybe just about 7 hours. But really you don't need your device on 728 all the time, and personally i think 728 is a bit unstable, so i use 662 when my device is on, otherwise 228 the rest of the time to save battery.
You MUST disable the internal scale from the PHM setting, otherwise it won't work
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Thanks for that Wu. What version of PHM are you using?
mackaby007 said:
Thanks for that Wu. What version of PHM are you using?
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latest version from the website
wu5262 said:
latest version from the website
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Cheers mate. Got it now. Latest version 4.13 is found here:
http://www.wizcode.com/downloads
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Cheers mate. Got it now. Latest version 4.13 is found here:
http://www.wizcode.com/downloads
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btw, mine one says 4.14 for some reason, and i can't remember where i get it from....
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I had this, you need to change the Video driver to Raw frame buffer and all will be well. I use TCPMP and this was what I had to do for it to work.
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just wanted to say thanks for this thread. was going nuts with the same problem re: vertical lines, pink screen, etc. almost made a post to ask you guys what kind of parameters or settings you used for your video players. i use core and i confirm that the "raw frame buffer" works well.
cheers
About TCPMP with the best settings applied as mentioned in this thread, is there something else we can do to further improve the playback quality?
I have some clips that feature "fast moving action" e.g. action scenes in movies. These clips will actually play, but when the "fast moving action" is there, you can see that it isn't going really that smooth/fast enough, resulting in noticeable, fast upcoming blocks/lines when you look closely. I'm not sure how to describe this effect best, but I guess pretty much everyone knows what I mean here.
Thanks!!
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About TCPMP with the best settings applied as mentioned in this thread, is there something else we can do to further improve the playback quality?
I have some clips that feature "fast moving action" e.g. action scenes in movies. These clips will actually play, but when the "fast moving action" is there, you can see that it isn't going really that smooth/fast enough, resulting in noticeable, fast upcoming blocks/lines when you look closely. I'm not sure how to describe this effect best, but I guess pretty much everyone knows what I mean here.
Thanks!!
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Hi.
Try playing any 3 minute segment of the video you have then click on File/Media Info and check the resolution of your video. If its below 640x480, then the problem is most likely a low bit rate used to encode the video, hence the pixelated blocks in high speed.
You can get away with less, but I encode now only at 480x320 @850kbps and get superb results each time...DVD quality and High definition quality too when I encode from HD source.
Can't say anymore than that. Click on my name and look through my posts, there will be a recent one entitled something like 'Excellent playback via Coreplayer & TCPMP'. This should help a bit if you have the time to read.

Coreplayer Audio

I've set my Coreplayer up as per the posts elsewhere in the Athena threads and the video quality is almost perfect now.
I'm using 320x240, DivX 6, 500-700KBps constant bitrate files.
Stereo MP3 audio. 96kbps or 128kbps.
After 10 mins of playback the audio slowly starts to lose sync (it plays fine on my PC).
Has anyone got any ideas what I need to do to stop the audio from losing sync?
Any help greatly appreciated.
hi
when you say "outof sync", does this mean that the audio is fine but the video is not "in time"? if yes, that's exactly what i was going to ask in the forum =) but i'll be trying the parameters you set. i've been meaning to ask the "optimized" setting for this application.
cheers
Robson said:
hi
when you say "outof sync", does this mean that the audio is fine but the video is not "in time"? if yes, that's exactly what i was going to ask in the forum =) but i'll be trying the parameters you set. i've been meaning to ask the "optimized" setting for this application.
cheers
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Yep, that's exactly it. It starts off fine, then ever so slowly the video gets ahead of the audio.
I've 'fiddled' with just about every setting I can think of within Coreplayer but have yet to find a solution.
Yep, that's exactly it. It starts off fine, then ever so slowly the video gets ahead of the audio.
I've 'fiddled' with just about every setting I can think of within Coreplayer but have yet to find a solution.[/QUOTE]
well, at least your video gets ahead. for me it's the other way around...the video is late yet the audio sounds perfect =)
cheers
ive already asked this question. with no replys. ive tried every setting and format possible. still loses sync. it doesnt matter if its from the sd card micro drive or streaming. it still loses sync. ive even tryed disabling the auto scaler and running tcpmp over clocked. still loses sync. im a a loss. if you find a solution let me know.
I guess we need to wait for the next version of Coreplayer which will (hopefully) be released on the 18th of June. It supposedly fixes some of the ATI issues.
I am so sick to death of this subject!! Not mad at you guys, but at ATI/AMD. This has been an ongoing issue since September last year when the TyTN was released with the ATI Imageon chip, and due to no input or support from ATI/AMD, Corecodec cannot fix this issue as it's to to with the Imageon hardware.
Bottom line is find the settings that work best for you. For me, I find TCPMP v0.72RC more stable and versatile than CorePlayer v1.04. Also set Video driver as Imageon (NOT Imageon decoder!) this yields best performance and visual quality 'during' playback.
If you're using DVD-Rips use the above setting, but if your playing/stretching QVGA 320x240 on your Athena, then Rawframebuffer mode is even more stable in the GUI, but lacks the ooomph of the Imageon driver, which to some extent might well eradicate your lipsync issues.
One more test folks. Play your video whilst your Athena is pluggen in to mains power. See if the lipsync is still out. If it is make manual adjustments in the A/V offset in TCPMP under Advanced.
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I am so sick to death of this subject!! Not mad at you guys, but at ATI/AMD. This has been an ongoing issue since September last year when the TyTN was released with the ATI Imageon chip, and due to no input or support from ATI/AMD, Corecodec cannot fix this issue as it's to to with the Imageon hardware.
Bottom line is find the settings that work best for you. For me, I find TCPMP v0.72RC more stable and versatile than CorePlayer v1.04. Also set Video driver as Imageon (NOT Imageon decoder!) this yields best performance and visual quality 'during' playback.
If you're using DVD-Rips use the above setting, but if your playing/stretching QVGA 320x240 on your Athena, then Rawframebuffer mode is even more stable in the GUI, but lacks the ooomph of the Imageon driver, which to some extent might well eradicate your lipsync issues.
One more test folks. Play your video whilst your Athena is pluggen in to mains power. See if the lipsync is still out. If it is make manual adjustments in the A/V offset in TCPMP under Advanced.
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Rgr that - will test later - thanks!
Ive got the exact same problem on my x7510 i start playing it and slowly the video will go ahead of the audio and its out of sync very easy to detect when your viewing a lecture. ive tried all kind of video players
Vico100 said:
Ive got the exact same problem on my x7510 i start playing it and slowly the video will go ahead of the audio and its out of sync very easy to detect when your viewing a lecture. ive tried all kind of video players
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How cam that you can use it.
I'v tried 0.72 version as well as 0.81 and both give me the "crash.txt" error while starting TCPMP.
Oh, you are using CorePlayer not TCPMP, right?
im using coreplayer the latest version becuase tmcp as you said keeps on crashing, (for me too).
With a hard reset playing even a video in windows media player still gives a audio lag. Its so bad, now i don't care about quility just let me have a video with audio i don't care how bad the video looks like.
Does anyone have any solution? ive tried all kinds of "video output" settings and it still gives audio lag (even raw framebuffer)
FINALLY! ah found it after lots of searching of google and forums and sites...
its -400ms and its perfect thought the whole video..
(Note: the best method that i use to see if its in sync is to watch a lecture and then watch their mouth real careful and you'll see that -400ms gives the best results )
Vico100 said:
FINALLY! ah found it after lots of searching of google and forums and sites...
its -400ms and its perfect thought the whole video..
(Note: the best method that i use to see if its in sync is to watch a lecture and then watch their mouth real careful and you'll see that -400ms gives the best results )
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What is this -400Ms?
-400ms is -400 milliseconds as in time. The minus sign means "start playing the video 400 milliseconds ahead of the audio. Its perfect for core player put all the settings on max just take acceleration and dithering off. And it plays a DVD rip perfectly no conversion very sweet on its 5 inch screen
If you don't know put the -400 in the settings next to "manual A/V offset +/-" and just type in "-0.400"
Vico100 said:
-400ms is -400 milliseconds as in time. The minus sign means "start playing the video 400 milliseconds ahead of the audio. Its perfect for core player put all the settings on max just take acceleration and dithering off. And it plays a DVD rip perfectly no conversion very sweet on its 5 inch screen
If you don't know put the -400 in the settings next to "manual A/V offset +/-" and just type in "-0.400"
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Thanks for sharing this tip!
Vico100 said:
-400ms is -400 milliseconds as in time. The minus sign means "start playing the video 400 milliseconds ahead of the audio. Its perfect for core player put all the settings on max just take acceleration and dithering off. And it plays a DVD rip perfectly no conversion very sweet on its 5 inch screen
If you don't know put the -400 in the settings next to "manual A/V offset +/-" and just type in "-0.400"
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So does this work or not???
I am confused, because on the other thread, you mentioned it did not work.
it does for like 5-10 minutes then audio gets our of sync
Vico100 said:
it does for like 5-10 minutes then audio gets our of sync
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Thank you for this information.
Vico100 said:
im using coreplayer the latest version becuase tmcp as you said keeps on crashing, (for me too).
With a hard reset playing even a video in windows media player still gives a audio lag. Its so bad, now i don't care about quility just let me have a video with audio i don't care how bad the video looks like.
Does anyone have any solution? ive tried all kinds of "video output" settings and it still gives audio lag (even raw framebuffer)
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Does it play flv files as well?
Tadeusz said:
Does it play flv files as well?
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Coreplayer plays flv files, yes. There's no need to separately install additional component. It benchmarks better than TCPMP in my test.

QTV driver problem in core player

it seems that the driver is causing freezes in my X1 while playing and then stopping/pausing and resuming videos using core player
anybody else get the same problem?
any idea how to fix this?
I've not been using the QTV driver in coreplayer.
I've had the best results with the following:
1. Turning off the "TYTN 2 Driver mode" on the Qtv preferences page
2. Selecting "Direct draw" and "high quality" on the Video page.
3. selecting "RGB" as the overlay format on the Direct draw page.
I already hard reset and now it runs at normal speed, still not sure about the freezes problem, need more investigation and time...
but I'm curious as to what is the best config for X1?
Ben, u said u don't use qtv, then what do you use?
anybody else?
direct draw here
i did notice that my benchmark is better when i use Qtv instead of directdraw.
I watch Iron Man (800ish MB DivX) in bed on Sunday using Direct Draw and other than the gun firing scene it seemed to run pretty smoothly.
please, try to use coreplayer 1.2.5 diamond skinned edition.
this will work flawless on my x1. (touch-it hd firmware)
can u upload the cab?
nap007 said:
it seems that the driver is causing freezes in my X1 while playing and then stopping/pausing and resuming videos using core player
anybody else get the same problem?
any idea how to fix this?
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I am facing the same issue too. This is my experience: Actually the X1 did not hang, only the screen hang. You can press the on/off button and you will hear the pop up window to confirm the shutdown. Just "guestimate" where the yes button is and press on the screen. It should shut down.
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I've not been using the QTV driver in coreplayer.
I've had the best results with the following:
1. Turning off the "TYTN 2 Driver mode" on the Qtv preferences page
2. Selecting "Direct draw" and "high quality" on the Video page.
3. selecting "RGB" as the overlay format on the Direct draw page.
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Using your settings, the video is playing back in slow motion!
Try mine:
Use QTv, set to medium quality, no zoom.
medium quality makes the picture looks bad.....
so we can conclude that core player isn't truly support X1 for now?
@nap007 same problem here, with qtv output.
DirectDraw @ medium quality works fine for me
a 700mb xvid,resolution somewhere round 640x400 played smoothly and
quality is still nice @medium
For me too qTV is the fastest.
qTv with unchecked Tytn II mode does not render any video.
DirectDraw with blitting is 10% slower.
DirectDraw without blitting does not zoom the picture.
All around it's slower 10-20% then TCPMP and my 2 years old Palm T5 ! Sure, it had only 320x480 resolution, but I really expected more in this area.
Only hope is CorePlayer will come with some better Xperia support soon.
here's my setting in Coreplayer that renders the video smooth
Video
- Video Output: QTv display
- Video Quality: High
- Smooth Zoom: Only for 50%
- Dither - Yes
Buffer
- Normal Buffer Size: 2400KB
- Preload at underrun: 70%
- Preload for audio: 64KB
- Microdrive mode: Yes
- Microdrive buffer size: 16000KB
- Microdrive starts at: 1472KB
Advance
Off: No backlight keepalive for video, Slow video memory, Less rotation tearing, High priority music playback, Override AVI timing based on audio, Use system volume, Capture all buttons, Keep screen on when playing audio
On: Prefer lookup tables over arithmetic, D-pad follow screen orientation, Prefer less buffering over framerate, Benchmark from current pos, Pause playback when making phone call, Unpause playback after call, Disable AVC deblocking filter
QTv
TyTN II driver mode - Yes

The Ultimate HD2 & coreplayer 1.3.6 setup, 3800kbps wvga (h264) no single frameskip.

The Ultimate HD2 & coreplayer 1.3.6 setup, 3800kbps wvga (h264) no single frameskip.
This isnt a joke, i finally found the problem of coreplayer on our HD2,
this will solve all your problems with coreplayer:
settings:
go to select page then video:
Video Output: DirectDraw (before you change this make sure there is no video running on coreplayer cus it will freeze your device, otherwize,
go to DirectDraw page and change Overlay to YUY2, then change Output to DirectDraw)
DO NOT USE GDI and RAWFRAMEBUFFER- unless you like choppy or framy(lol) videos. (make sure you have 1.3.6 one to get max performance with DirectDraw).
now this is important:
go to select page then DirectDraw:
uncheck Overlay with colorkey
uncheck Use blitting instead of overlay
check Use device streching for blitting.
Overlay: YUY2
go to select page then Advanced:
Soft-Drop tolerance: 0.300 /0.200 /0.250 ( personally i use 0.250 it seems better )
Hard-Drop tolerance: 0.000
check Disable AVC deblocking filter
( EDIT: about AVC deblocking filter:
with h264 you can see some annoying squares on the video sometimes, now i recommend to uncheck this option and use TG01-D3DM drivers from chainfire, although in 3800kbps videos you will receive skips sometimes, but dont use such high bitrate with coreplayer XD tried 2000kbps one and works smooth with deblocking enabled)
after you have done all this coreplayer will run very fast,
BUT we havnt finished yet!!
playback will still have slowdowns, and this isnt related to the settings,
it is related to a bug inside coreplayer, which affects the autoscale feature of the snapdragon.
have you been wondering why benchmark is so high while playback lags a bit?
I explored this thing, i can tell you that when i check "Play movie in backgroung", and watch the cpu speed: it goes down from 768MHZ to 400-300MHZ randomaly then goes back into 768MHZ, interesting isnt it?
when it drops down to 300-400 it has lags, and when it returns to 768, the lags stop.
the final solution:
http://www.netripper.com/leo/cpuspeed/LeoCpuSpeed_v2.zip
this program will allow you to keep the CPU in its position or make it full 1GHZ.
all you have to do is open it then tap "Disable autoscaling" and you will have Full 1ghz speed.
you can explore yourself by re-enabling autoscaling ("(Re)enable autoscaling")
then activate movie playback in background through coreplayer, then go to this software and watch the speed dropdowns.
now the "Disable autoscaling" is perfect for coreplayer, it also use 1ghz instead of 768MHZ, and also does not drop down randomally.
it is recommanded to activate autoscaling after finishing with coreplayer, so you can use more battery, it barely affects the speed of everything else but coreplayer, because it automatically increases to 1ghz when you switch between apps, but does not stay 1ghz inside the app itself.
(im not a native speaker, i hope you could understand this.)
enjoy guys.
Core player does not work anymore!!
Followed these instructions to the letter.
Core player stopped playing videos!
Had to hard reset and restore. Beware.
Edit: I am using (and paying for!) version 1.3.6
I hard resetted because reinstalling did not solve the issue.
Hard resets are almost painless when you backup regularly (I use SPB backup... excellent).
maybe you are not using the 1.3.6 version of coreplayer
thats why it didnt play any video (DirectDraw works only on 1.3.6 and one more version - at the others you get green screen)
anyway why hard reset? you could reinstall coreplayer..
It worked for me though.
The benchmark for video with following properties reads 140%.
Video: MPEG4 Video (H264) 848x480 23.98fps
Audio: MPEG Audio Layer 3 48000Hz stereo 128kbps
It plays smoothly. =)
glad this works for you,
dont forget the fix for the cpu slowdown, cus without this the benchmark is only a number, and the playback will be with lags.
can you post your bit-rate?
Thanks for the tip!
Btw, this might be kinda off topic, but do you know how to get the htc volume slider (volume slider as in HTC music player) to work in coreplayer when I press the volume rocker?
Currently, the video will pause whenever I press on the volume rocker to change the volume.
Umm i have no idea,
maybe you can search google, but i have another solution:
theres an option around coreplayer settings to make the video keep playing when it exits fullscreen, so all you have to do is increase volume, then go back to fullscreen and the video keeps playing..
working
"you are good, you are very good "
No more lost frames, works indeed but now quality is not so good, I see lots of artefacts on my lower framerate videos.
Maybe I messed up some settings ?
i guess you did, go over the color settings etc.. ( i use 0 on brightness )
there is absolutely no drop-down in the quality,
if i play the same video also in album - you cannot tell which is which if i show you both in fullscreen.
I made those brightnes settings and the artefacts are still visible .
???
Thanks for help
ummm i dont completely understand what "artefacts" is lol, (not a native speaker sorry, i used dictionary but the meaning doesnt make sense xD, maybe you should try to explain this better)
i do understand that the quality isnt like before, this means you messed up with the settings somewhere. i do not see any drop-down in the quality of my movies.
Artefacts are little squares on the screen when is lot of movement
Sorry for my poor english
got it, do you say these werent there before? actually this is common with flv files.
one more question: does it happen when the screen goes black?
yes these apear after your settings
I had first part of settings ( yuy2 ) and I guess they apeared after I did the second part of settings ( soft and hard drop )
nope this is defenetly not related to soft and hard drop, im thinking now with my hd2. but tell me if you mean those squares when the screen goes black, cus somehow in the past i solved this.
when the screen is black , the squars are not visible
when I watch any movie, video they are very ugly ( in some grey area )
i cant notice any squares, once i had them left on the black screen, but i solved this, there are no squares!!
try use videos with higher bitrate, usually low-quality videos cause squares, also i would recommend to go back to the default settings to see if theres any difference which i guess there isnt.
EDIT: try unchecking Disable AVC Deblocking filter, and tell me if this helps. (this massivily drops the benchmark)
strange because I did not see them before
How I can reset to the default settings ?
install again ?
Try enabling avc deblocking filter (in the edit last post)
im going to sleep... 2:00AM here, Cya.
when I enable avc deblocking filter those artefacts are not so visible
but now freezes the playback, is not so fluid like before
when I disable avc filter it is smooth but with larger artefacts
I give up and go to sleep, thank you a lot,
to be continued

Poor video Playback.

Hi,
It seems to me that the HTC HD suffers from poor video playback among other performance problems, I didn't know devices this new were affected by this problem as I remember there was a Class Action website concerning some affected devices with poor playback.
I have even used this program which supposedly will encode videos to play well on the HD : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
Used the factory settings, and video glitched and froze in many spots, also went out of sync many times. Used default bit rate settings. Tried playing in both "Album" and Windows Media Player, same problems
Seeing how the HD plays this video I wouldn't even consider trying Coreplayer with Divx/Xvid.
Is there any drivers/fixes to improve video playback or upgrades in certain ROM/Firmware releases?
Thanks.
that is over all a difficult question, because it consists of many aspects.
first of all, that program uses high bitrates and if it converts to wmv, a poor codec. if you take regular 624 x 352 16:9 xvid files, performance is higher. that's the 2nd thing: you said, after seeing album and wmp perform this bad, you wouldn't even give tcpmp or coreplayer a chance. but actually, they do much better in general, after all, you have way more options to optimize playback depending on bitrate and resolution. you could set the buffering and use options like "override avi framrate based on audio", "prefer lookup tables over arithmetic" and "prefer less buffering over smooth video" to get it to work to your demands.
and of course there are many ways to tweak the performance even further: you can of course try different radio roms and corresponding rilphone versions, different roms (which come with different tweaks cooked in by the respective chefs), or even go further and play around with different drivers, like neo2007's driver pack, or use gfxboost, winmospeed, hdtweak...
i have absolutely no problem playing regular xvid files (as stated above: 624 x 352 xvid, overall bitrate just above 1000kbit/s, 175MB per 22 minutes) absolutely smoothly on my blackstone with audio synced at all points. and that way, i don't even need to convert the videos.
as you can see, it is not done by a single tweak to make them run, maybe you need to switch the codec, the player, the rom and make a lot of settings, but if you want proper video playback, it shouldn't be too much for the result you get. also have a look at the codec info i posted, they are very commonly used.
Hi,
I've tried NEO's driver pack, doesn't seem to help, it was a cab file that I installed, I think it said that those drivers dont improve video playback but are more for improving touchflo and 3d performance? i may be wrong.
That program encoded to AVC I don't think it used WMV (or is it pretty much the same codec?).
Just wondering how do Radio ROMS affect the video playback? I thought the radio rom is for the Phone/GPRS operation?
Also how do tweaks on ROMS affect the playback, I thought it was limited to that the processor simply cannot do the work to make the video play smooth as there doesn't seem to be any dedicated graphics/video chip? Do chefs do tweaks on how the OS uses it's memory? Just wondering what sort of tweaks they are but this might not be a simple answer.
I'm surprised how xvid @ 1000k plays well on your blackstone, hmm. Seems my playback method on coreplayer is "QTV" is that the video accelerator on the Qualcomm Chipset ?
xvid video at 830k at 608 x 400 plays borderline on my blackstone on coreplayer, when Panning on movies it jerks. 1778 frames played, dropped 551.
I would have thought preffer less buffering over smooth video would make the video rougher? going to the description of that option.
I tried ticking those options you suggested, they only slightly improve the playback, however i tried this suggestion from another thread :
"For touch HD, just tick "Disable AVC Deblocking" at advanced tab, "soft drop tolerance" to 0.3 sec, and let other settings defaults. Enjoy your hardware-like video player."
Seems to help the most out of any suggestion but still jerks sometimes.
I'll look into winmospeed to see if it can do anything to speed up my video playback and my device, but not sure how the Qaulcomm CPU copes with overclocking, especially stability and reliability.
What is a safe speed to run at?
which driver pack to use depends on which rom you are using, some roms already come with a driver pack and installing another one makes the device slower rather than faster. the drivers, as you correctly pointed out, generally affect the 3d performance, however, it is about hardware acceleration and some players use hardware acceleration, which should be the same chip, the gpu.
you might be right, the program might encode in avc, just had a brief look at the screenshot, and as you mentioned windows media player, which supports almost no codecs i just assumed, it would go for wmv. as already pointed out, i don't encode my files for the phone. too much work for watching once. instead of re-encoding, i could watch them on the pc instead.
radio roms don't affect video playback directly. they do more than just handling phone calls and wireless communications though, radios are the bridge between the winmo OS and the hardware, so also bluetooth, wi-fi, camera, sound and many more things are influenced. but most of all i mentioned it, because i went through a lot of roms recently, beginning with the latest orange uk stock rom and on every single one of them i experienced an improvement in performance, when i used the newest radio 1.17.25.09 with them, with corresponding rilphone. many cooked roms have specific rilphone versions cooked in, and the radio should match for the entire device to work properly.
as i have never cooked a rom, i certainly can't tell you any of the chefs' secrets, but i assume it takes a lot of work and tweaking, to make new builds and sense versions run properly on this rather slow device. many chefs point out to have compressed a lot of graphic files and optimized cache sizes, pagepool...
some of these tweaks can also be altered with hdtweak.
at the moment i use tcpmp cooked into the energy rom and i believe avc deblocking was ticked by default, or else i would have mentioned it, but i also read before, that it should stay ticked on for better performance.
for winmospeed i mostly set it to level 32 or 33 while playing 3d hd2 games, which are generally very slow on the blackstone. having it permanently set to level 33 causes the phone to freeze sometimes, so that speed seems to be the borderline.
if nothing else helps (and that included trying other roms), you could also disable sense, when you watch videos, if it is so important to you. when watching tv shows or movies, you are not using sense for a rather long time anyway and it really hogs ram and cpu.
Chef_Tony said:
for winmospeed i mostly set it to level 32 or 33...... having it permanently set to level 33 causes the phone to freeze sometimes, so that speed seems to be the borderline.
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agreed.. level 33 = 633mhz is borderline..
a hell of a lot faster than normal 528mhz!
set to level 33 does make the device crash sometimes but not often, i personaly recomend level 33 regardless..
1/10 times it will crash, in my experience its on device first boot after customisation. soft reset and all is ok.
it could be my rom though haha - i joke!
kidcash said:
not sure how the Qaulcomm CPU copes with overclocking, especially stability and reliability.
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overclocking is completely safe dude, already read up on this before i even tried it when it was released.. so to save you reading, just download it, its worth it
Chef_Tony said:
if nothing else helps (and that included trying other roms), you could also disable sense, when you watch videos, if it is so important to you. when watching tv shows or movies, you are not using sense for a rather long Dtime anyway and it really hogs ram and cpu.
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lol, in that case dissable everything thats running to free up all your memory
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as i have never cooked a rom, i certainly can't tell you any of the chefs' secrets, but i assume it takes a lot of*
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*of headf*cks and facepalms! haha
i honestly thought you was a chef untill i seen that, ya got the perfect name though
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