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HD2 or DESIRE - need your inputs on this one..

Hello xda folks, i'm currently using my beloved touch pro 2 but wanting to uupgrade to HD2 for a long time now, i was wondering what can you suggest, HD2 or Desire? i would also love to be able to boot for android, i could have gotten the evo 4 but i live in ASIA and there is no GSM version of it. Any inputs/ideas are greatly appreciated. Can the HD2 handle the daily use for android? Fell in love with the Big screen on HD2 but ive tried desire and it kicks *ss any idea or inputs will really help

you can dual boot android on hd2..its not completely finished and still has a few issues but been using it for day 3 now and no crash or problems

would you suggest hd2 over desire? ive heard of horror stories on the keypad for hd2, but im sure desire is just the same since there is no dedicated keyboard like tp2

personally i would wait for the HTC Desire HD (Ace) which should come out in mid september apparently...
i probably could guarantee you, you wont use WinMo alot as i dont if u dont like it you can always get the HD2 ;D its still a one of best phone even after 10 months from launch and will be for a long time.

There are so many of these threads popping up, just get a Desire and be done with it. The HD2 will never run Android as well as a native Android phone and most people looking for/ used to it just ***** and moan about WM 6.5/6.5.x.
Or as someone else mentioned, if you can wait, see what becomes of the Desire HD.
I personally would take Windows Mobile over Android at the moment, I love this hunk of junk OS we have, I really do.

Kalavere said:
There are so many of these threads popping up, just get a Desire and be done with it. The HD2 will never run Android as well as a native Android phone and most people looking for/ used to it just ***** and moan about WM 6.5/6.5.x.
Or as someone else mentioned, if you can wait, see what becomes of the Desire HD.
I personally would take Windows Mobile over Android at the moment, I love this hunk of junk OS we have, I really do.
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I completely agree with this statement... If you want to use android full-time, get a native android phone. People keep thinking that just because they have an android port running on the HD2 that it will run as well as a phone designed for android, but look at the history of these android ports... it's nothing new getting android to run on a winmo phone. They have android running GREAT on the HD2, but it's still an unofficial port and will never run as well as a phone designed for android. The drivers aren't optimized and we don't have a giant companie's expensive developer's to to develop it. Not saying our devs aren't doing an excellent job, cause they are... but they don't have the time or resources HTC does.
Personally, I think the HD2 is the best phone out... but I still prefer WinMo. I also love android, and I love to be able to use android on my phone as well. It's awesome to have my powerful winmo phone that can also boot into android when I want. But I bought the phone for WinMo... if I was gonna use android most of the time, I would buy an android phone. The HD2 is never gonna run android as smoothly and as stable as a native android phone, and no one should realistically expect it to.

i was in the same boat,hd2 or desire i picked desire main reason was size of screen and the fact that one day it will have Android on it

HD2 with latest ROM looks amazing, runs amazing and is stable, the only reason id even consider Android is the app stores, there is no functional difference in my opinion and as such, if i were you, id choose by the hardware alone, all this WM bashing is BS, a decent ROM (i use Energy) works perfect. That said, im not bashing Android, im simply saying it doesnt offer anything new, its the same, except you can download hundreds more c**p in it.

HD2 or Desire

Hi Guys I have been a winmo user for a while and then i moved to android with xperia x10. however i am thinking of changing my toy and unable to decide between 2 HD2 and desire.
for me i felt both OS as same for my usage in fact i liked winmo for exchange support more.
so if you guys have to make a choice which one would you like to go for.
Waiting for your honest advise.

HD2 is best looking phone IMO, problem is, WM is running. I chose a Desire because of that, not the same looks, but same specs + Android.
Aka, Desire if i had to pick.

i played arround with android on my hd2 and now i wish i had a desire... android seems more like what win mobile should have been... althogh android is so young... android is much more smoother and the integration with google, gmail, social networks is much better than win mo... on top of that the market has much more options that win mo...
AFAIK froyo supports exchange server...

my bad...i posted a Q earlier that is HD2 the best option, and i was suggested that HD2 is indeed the best option as compared to any phone including Desire...
desire has a plastic body...so that is something i wouldnt like much...and above all HD2 has the best display

xprav said:
HD2 is indeed the best option as compared to any phone including Desire...
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You forget the main thing, it runs Windows...

etix said:
You forget the main thing, it runs Windows...
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At it runs beautiful!

again for me this is a no brainer just buy the hd2 and if you want run the desire android build.
that way you can have both in one handset with a bigger screen.

so seems that everyone suggest that I should go with Android ?
so now if i flash a android ROM on HD2 will it be as good as Desire since desire was made for Android.
Also do we have a stable Android ROM for HD2 ?
Please help guys i got to buy it in 2 to 3 days
Regards
sandeep

sandeeppathak007 said:
so seems that everyone suggest that I should go with Android ?
so now if i flash a android ROM on HD2 will it be as good as Desire since desire was made for Android.
Also do we have a stable Android ROM for HD2 ?
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IMO the Hd2 is much better than any android device out there currently.
The Hd2 is NOT a capable Android device. I had a Nexus One that I sold to get the Hd2 off of craigslist for cheap thinking I could run both. Only problem with that is the fact that your running an entire operating system off of the SD card on a phone not designed to run it at all.
People that have never used Android will say it runs fine on the Hd2, but I had the Nexus One for 6 months and I can really feel the slowdown and battery issues.
I would recommend the Hd2 to anyone I know but NOT if you need to have Android. I like WM 6.x much better on my Hd2 over Android...
sandeeppathak007 said:
Please help guys i got to buy it in 2 to 3 days
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Cmon man don't act like a little girl about this decision. If you want the Hd2 then go for it but dont try to act like we are really going to be the determining factor that makes the decision by rushing us. Yeah we might tell you something you like but have a pair and make a good decision yourself

i dont know why but the desire feels like a girls phone
my choice would be hd2 WinMo is way better than android to me...only boot android occasionally to play some games or use some apps that are missing in Winmo its a win win situation

Things I shouldnt expect from HD2 Android ?

Hi guys,
I might buy a HD2 and I want to do everything that a current DHD or DesireZ can do. So keeping this in mind what are things that I shouldnt expect from HD2 ?
Does it delivers every thing that a nexus one /desire/DZ/DHD deliver ?
I wanted to buy DHD... But its not available in US. Its quite expensive also. And no other options for 4.3 Inch screen
Thanks, Help me decide whether or not to buy this phone as an altenative for desire Z/Desire HD

suhas_sm said:
Hi guys,
I might buy a HD2 and I want to do everything that a current DHD or DesireZ can do. So keeping this in mind what are things that I shouldnt expect from HD2 ?
Does it delivers every thing that a nexus one /desire/DZ/DHD deliver ?
I wanted to buy DHD... But its not available in US. Its quite expensive also. And no other options for 4.3 Inch screen
Thanks, Help me decide whether or not to buy this phone as an altenative for desire Z/Desire HD
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I don't quite understand what you're asking. You're asking for help with a decision, but from what I'm reading, there is only one option?
To answer your more obvious question, I believe development for DHD/DHZ has stagnated, and the only thing it's missing is the camera. Not sure when/if devs will finish that. The Evo, desire, and nexus builds are pretty much 100% done though
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If you're in the US, why don't you buy an Evo? I'm sure the new Sense will be ported to it (if it hasn't been already).

If you want the ability to switch between Windows Mobile and different Android builds, get the HD2.
If you want a native Android phone with similar (not the same though, before the pedants flame me) hardware to the HD2 get the Desire.
If you want a more up dated similar Android phone get the Desire HD.
If you want a hardware keyboard get the Z.
Thats pretty much it sport

Thanks
Coming to a conclusion that this phone is not a pure native android phone
Its better I w8 for Nexus S or go with DHD

As a TMOUS user I would just get the Desire HD if it was my first phone and I had the upgrade option. But I didnt, so I wanted the next best thing, a phone I could convert into a Desire HD, which was the HD2. I found one new in the box on craigs list for $250 and shelled out. Studied up on modding it and made it look like the Desire HD.

I'm also a TMOUS user and found one of craigslist for under 200. Until they come out with a new 4.3 android phone, this will be it for me. I don't get the data drops and the only issue I come across is the 10 second lag in autorotate with the touchscreen. I'll take that. If the Desire HD (or comparable) ever comes to the US that's what I will move to

Looks like camera fix is available on Desire HD builds now....

what you shouldn't expect a droid hd2...prefection.some builds are still WIP or some bugs not resolved.
then we have the nand camp who wants droid on their fone,wiping out winmo completely.this is still WIP.and still some impt issues not resolved.
other than that,hd2 is pretty impressive even with stock winmo.not that much of a diff between dhd other than a updated hardware.
if you like cutomising the hell out of ur fone but lack the money,go for hd2.you get spoilt to booting winmo cooked rom or droid builds available in the forums.

suhas_sm said:
Thanks
Coming to a conclusion that this phone is not a pure native android phone
Its better I w8 for Nexus S or go with DHD
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I dont know how you don't know that? It's a windows mobile 6.5 phone. How can a windows phone be a pure native android phone? If you are looking for a phone that can do exactly what a DHD or a Desire Z, you would have to get one of those phones as no other phone currently runs the new htc sense. The closest phone to a DHD or a Desire Z in US is an EVO 4G.

Android useable on the HTC HD2 ?

Hello guys,
I used to be a proud owner of an HTC HD, which I recently sold, and now I am wondering what to buy next. The next phone I would like to own is a phone running Android and I know that HTC HD2 is capable of that. What my question is, if there is a significant difference in the performance between same hardware Android phones and the Android on HTC HD2. In other words, is it worth buying the HTC HD2 for use as an Android phone, or should I pay a little more money and buy a Desire for example. I would also like to know if 3D games are playable on Android on the HTC HD2 (as they werent on the HD, lagged like hell). Thanks in advance

Don't buy an HD2, buy an android phone instead.

PaKo0o said:
Hello guys,
I used to be a proud owner of an HTC HD, which I recently sold, and now I am wondering what to buy next. The next phone I would like to own is a phone running Android and I know that HTC HD2 is capable of that. What my question is, if there is a significant difference in the performance between same hardware Android phones and the Android on HTC HD2. In other words, is it worth buying the HTC HD2 for use as an Android phone, or should I pay a little more money and buy a Desire for example. I would also like to know if 3D games are playable on Android on the HTC HD2 (as they werent on the HD, lagged like hell). Thanks in advance
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well you will probably end up rooting any phone you get anyway apparently. Games have been flawless on my HD2, including a pretty heavy game like heavy gunner 3d. not 1 single bit of lag. But unless you can find an hd2 dirt cheap I'd get the new nexus s

I have also one more question. What is the progress of the Android on the HTC HD2. I know that it is not a ROM yet, is it like the one on the HTC HD (running Haret and its on the SD card) or is it something better? I read of some "Android Builds" but I don't really know the difference. Also will there ever be a Android ROM for the HD2 ?

my advice is if you have money to invest, buy either Desire HD or Nexus S. As much as smooth android runs on HD2, it is still can't be compared to a native android phone, the biggest problem being the battery drain. in standby it is alright, but when you use it it drains a lot.

I use Android on the HD2 because it's the one Tmo USA 3G capable phones hardware that I like that runs Android. I have/had Samsung Vibrant and prefer the HD2 hardware. I'm not a fan of the bulky G2. I like the 4.3" screen, and will not go back to using anything less than 4". I have not tried a MyTouch 4G because it doesn't offer anything compelling to draw me away from the HD2. But I have android running perfectly on my HD2, and it did take a bit of tinkering to get it running the way I want (Some SD cards work better than others, getting the build running, etc). Day to day it's every bit as good (and faster) than my Vibrant. There are a few minor quirks. Like having to unmount the card to install come applications from the marketplace. But, other than boot time there really isn't much advantage going to a phone that comes with Android.

PaKo0o said:
I have also one more question. What is the progress of the Android on the HTC HD2. I know that it is not a ROM yet, is it like the one on the HTC HD (running Haret and its on the SD card) or is it something better? I read of some "Android Builds" but I don't really know the difference. Also will there ever be a Android ROM for the HD2 ?
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It's nowhere near completion and I dont think it'll ever will. Even the blackstone like u said (which has been out for what 2yrs now?) still can't run android natively so you can kiss goodbye the possibility of android running on NAND anywhere in the distant future. It's a nice novelty idea to play around with if you already have an HD2 or familiar with the constant struggle that current developers are facing, but for everyday use, I'd say you're better off getting a pure android phone...much more efficient than what the HD2 can deliver on crutches.

Yeah, if you want to run android, you'll be better off getting a native android phone. Why buy a phone to run a port of android when you can get a phone that was made to run it.
Now if you also want to run winmo and don't mind putting in a lot of time testing out different android builds and working out bugs and quirks of a ported android, then the hd2 is a good phone... but don't expect it to run as well as a native android phone.
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lude219 said:
It's nowhere near completion and I dont think it'll ever will. Even the blackstone like u said (which has been out for what 2yrs now?) still can't run android natively so you can kiss goodbye the possibility of android running on NAND anywhere in the distant future. It's a nice novelty idea to play around with if you already have an HD2 or familiar with the constant struggle that current developers are facing, but for everyday use, I'd say you're better off getting a pure android phone...much more efficient than what the HD2 can deliver on crutches.
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Yes it's taking time because there has been lot's of updates in android going on... and the developers has to keep up with those updates , hence it seems endless... but still HD2 is hell lot of device. and it can't be compared to native android devices....

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rajivshahi said:
Yes it's taking time because there has been lot's of updates in android going on... and the developers has to keep up with those updates , hence it seems endless... but still HD2 is hell lot of device. and it can't be compared to native android devices....
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I think you missed the whole point of what was said...

Well actually, the only thing I'd like to use Android for is the Games. I'm okay with using WinMo the other time (for browsing the net, watching movies. etc.). So I guess thats possible. Also why not buy an Android phone you ask? Well, cause the 4.3 inch Android phones are a hell of a lot more expensive. And one more thing, the HTC HD Blackstone didn't get a full Android ROM because all of the developers migrated to the HTC HD2 Leo.

PaKo0o said:
Well actually, the only thing I'd like to use Android for is the Games. I'm okay with using WinMo the other time (for browsing the net, watching movies. etc.). So I guess thats possible. Also why not buy an Android phone you ask? Well, cause the 4.3 inch Android phones are a hell of a lot more expensive. And one more thing, the HTC HD Blackstone didn't get a full Android ROM because all of the developers migrated to the HTC HD2 Leo.
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So basically the only thing going for you are the 4.3in screen and the fact that it's cheaper than android phones in that price range? I don't know about a 4.3in but most samsung galaxy S line are about $150 with a 2yr contract and you can probably find an X10 for pennies. Unless you REALLLYYY want to dual boot winmo and android, I don't see why anyone would waste their time, money and energy and would get the HD2 just for running android to play games...don't you think that's a little ass-backward? Why would anyone want a winmo phone, running haret on SD card, booting android...just to play android games? hahaha
Oh well, it's your money, do whatever you want with it

If you want android for gaming, I would get something from the Samsung galaxy line... it has a much better gpu, which isn't currently being taken advantage of by apps and games, but since Google's new development phone, the nexus s, is basicly a galaxy phone and has same chipset, future development and games will surely take advantage of it. Basicly, android developers and Google are going to use the nexus s as the standard to develop for like they currently use the nexus one... so many more games will be designed based around the chipset the nexus s and all the galaxy s line of phones use.
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lude219 said:
So basically the only thing going for you are the 4.3in screen and the fact that it's cheaper than android phones in that price range? I don't know about a 4.3in but most samsung galaxy S line are about $150 with a 2yr contract and you can probably find an X10 for pennies. Unless you REALLLYYY want to dual boot winmo and android, I don't see why anyone would waste their time, money and energy and would get the HD2 just for running android to play games...don't you think that's a little ass-backward? Why would anyone want a winmo phone, running haret on SD card, booting android...just to play android games? hahaha
Oh well, it's your money, do whatever you want with it
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I can find one reason. HD2 i very good phone, but if i would like to get just phone i would use Nokia E51 or something similar... I like to play with my device, its kind of toy and HD2 has excellent dev community. Going back to original question. If you want just working device with Android buy something with Android installed natively, but if you don't mind or, like me, like playing with your phone HD2 is very good choice.

Well, I never use WinMo any more.
Android has everything I need.
And it is fast and I seldom experience bugs.
The only real downside is that you really have to be a power user. I spent a lot of hours updating and tweaking. But, then again, I love that
I agree that the HD2 is a nice device. The build quality is extraordinary.
I have had a look at both Desire HD and HD7 -- none of them have as good build quality. Samsung and SE always felt plastic-ish.
If you get a HD2 cheap today - sure, try it out.
But if I were to buy a new phone today - I would probably buy a native Android.

Alright so I thought id give my two cents. I've owned a nexus one and a galaxy s as far as Android phones go. I went back to the hd2 for a couple of reasons. First off, its a lot cheaper than any other phone with comparable hardware. Look on Craigslist Nd you can find a new hd2 for like $200. I like the screen better than the samoled
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Didn't finish, lol. Anyways, the amoled screens aren't as clear as the lcd on the hd2. The colors and contrast of the amoled screens were amazing but I didn't like how you could see pixels. Second, the hd2 has so many roms, even more than the nexus one. And finally, from my experience, the hd2 has been a lot faster than either of those phones. I'm running a desire hd Rom and the quadrant score is higher than either of the phones I mentioned, even after I modded them. Last thing ill say is battery life is definitely not a big problem. Id get about 1 hour more with the nexus one or galaxy than my hd2 with Android. I can easily go 10+ hours on pretty heavy use. Turn internet off and you can go way way longer. So battery life with Android running off an SD card is fine. Oh last thing, changing builds is so easy, just copy a new build on your phone and that's it. So get an hd2. Won't regret it.
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[Q] Htc HD2 (leo) is stil a TOP Device!!!!

Just curious what people have to say about this statement...

yes it is , think about it you have 3 phones in one (for now (wm,wp7,android))
wm 500 euro+-
wp7 500 euro+-
android 500 euro+-

In my opinion its the best device but the most people think the phone is "crap" because it is almost 2 years old... and that's wrong! My HD2 is better than DHD and the other ones

Yep, superram froyo still remains one of the fastest roms out there, even faster than nand to me. In fact, it is even faster than my old nexus one and on par with a Vibrant on Darky's 9.3!

Long Live the HD2

I got my own prayer mat - arab worship "Allah"
I worship my HD2 - feel guilty tho' as i'm only praying, praising and thanking my HD2 50 times a day - it deserves more!!
will try to improve error of my ways ;-)
matt

its the best.
It has everything even 720P video recording on windows phone 7 ^^ I mean what more do you really expect of a 2 year old phone

I don't want to jinx it now but I really would not have a single clue what phone would replace my HD2 (running Gingerbread MDJ 2.6) if it went bad!!
love it!

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I consider it one of the best phones on the market. Especially considering it's age. The amount of internal memory on the american HD2's is off the chain.
HD2 > Girlfriend

Overall yes i would say so. Reasons being you can get it relatively cheap, it has great/modern hardware, able to boot 4 OSes, meaning it can probably suit everyone's needs, stable/smooth/fast.
However the best device in terms of performance? That's hard to say. In android? It's obviously beaten by other 1ghz android devices. WP7? People are saying it beats even the HD7, but are they comparing it to a HD7 with tweaks also or just stock? Ubuntu it obviously can't compare to a real computer. Winmo it is the best.
But as said, its still the best device overall, atleast in my perspective.

I was eagerly waiting for the 2011 WMC to see what new phones were headed our way this year. I was thouroughly dissapointed to be fair. If I had to get a new phone right now, I would get the best phone currently on the market today which is.. an HD2!

You're damn right !
The more I become familiar with my Leo the more I'm proud of having bought it instead of any common Ifone..

Yeah its still a top device.People are still asking what phone is that or is that the new one,its still a looker,nice and smart,ok its not as nice as HD7 in looks but it can still perform just aswell,This was htcs answer to the Toshiba TG01 and relesed it back in nov 2009 at £499,most people have forgoten the TG01 now,had a look on handtec.co.uk ,Desire HD £369.59 HD7 £371.99 HD2 £367.19 just goes to show,this phone is still holding its value well,its still more expensive new than a desire,all these came out after HD2,you got huge backing on here.it boots several OSs,you cant really ask any more from a phone,its still an amazing phone,never known a device like it and i look a desire hd or an incredible S and i think,my phone can do that,just as good.The HD2,its deffinently a real iPhone killer

i had mine for almost a year now )
tried WM6.5 stock and cooked, android & WP7 a while back
now running imilika`s ginger-sense 2.1 ( very lovely BTW )
the point is, everytime i flash a new OS or a different rom, i feel like having a new device, every OS has its features and feel
its the best device ever

yes yes no 1 ......best phone for now i am using android and love zynge poker live............

What if you ask this question on a Steve's worshipers forum ?