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Use in Car through Aux in

hi,
I have been using a Nokia phone with a 3.5 mm audio jack to connect it to my aux-in of the car and listen to music as well as make or take calls. The phone mic picks my voice quite well and I hear back the calling party through the car speakers.
Does the same work with HTC Touch HD too?
Update: I have connected the HTC Touch HD to my car's Aux in and it works well with the THD's mic picking up my voice easily. I had echo on a couple of calls but would like to check for its recurrence to believe that's some problem with unit or with the connectivity.

Afraid not mate.
When you plug something in the earphone socket, it assumes there's a mic plugged in too, like when you plug in a hands-free kit.
I've got exactly the same setup and didn't click what the problem was the first time I took a call. I just sat there like a pratt, shouting "HELLO" at my phone! lol
There may be a software workround for this, but not that I'm aware of.

I use the same approach.. but currently even though I am using a Belkin cable to a pretty neat deck.. the sound is completely off.. Treble is too high.. and My faithful kenwoods which would handle the full Volume of my N95-2 with ease are now cracking up.
Any ideas??

I use the same approach.. but currently even though I am using a Belkin cable to a pretty neat deck.. the sound is completely off.. Treble is too high.. and My faithful kenwoods which would handle the full Volume of my N95-2 with ease are now cracking up.
Any ideas??

Ideally, you should have the phone volume at about 75% of its max (between the phone volume itself, and the volume on the music player application), and control overall volume from the deck. If it still sounds dodgy after that, mess about with the equalizer on whatever player you're using, or the htc audio booster.
If anything, mine's a little quiet, but I've not tried messing with output volume settings in Tweak HD. I tend to have to have my deck turned up about 70-80%, whereas I normally have the radio at about 20-30%.

johncmolyneux said:
Afraid not mate.
There may be a software workround for this, but not that I'm aware of.
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Asking this question to all. Is anyone aware of any software to use HTC Touch HD mic while using a 3.5 mm headphones through its audio jack.

not both speakers and mic are off when in headset mode
it's a hardware thing
but like with htc headsets you can connect external speakers and mic to the conntors and it works
easy way is to tear the headset apart and solver in the stuff you want to the connector which came with the headset

johncmolyneux said:
Afraid not mate.
When you plug something in the earphone socket, it assumes there's a mic plugged in too, like when you plug in a hands-free kit.
I've got exactly the same setup and didn't click what the problem was the first time I took a call. I just sat there like a pratt, shouting "HELLO" at my phone! lol
There may be a software workround for this, but not that I'm aware of.
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Mine works fine setup like this. I've got a 3.5m jack coming out and going into the back of my headunit. I can make calls without a problem. The phone seems to realise the connected jack doesn't have a mic so uses the internal one.
The first time I tried it though the person at the other end couldn't hear me but finally worked out this was because the cradle I was using was blocking the mic on the bottom of the phone! I quick readjustment of the cradle and everything was fine.
Sound quality when playing tunes has always been fine but the voice quality aint that great, the person at the other end sometime complains about echo.

crankshaft said:
The phone seems to realise the connected jack doesn't have a mic so uses the internal one.
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Hmm.... I'll have to have a play with that then, as it was a total failure for me previously. I definitely didn't have the mic blocked, as my cradle holds the phone by the sides.
Cheers for that - I'll have a play about.

How about something like this?
http://www.overstock.com/Electronics/Audio-3.5-mm-Adapter-with-Microphone-for-iPhone/3440143/product.html?cid=133635
(iPhone example but googling "3.5mm microphone output" finds you more, all about £3)

"How about something like this?"
there is not standart for how 3.5mm jacks with mics work as in the width of the ring and such
doubt very very very much that iphone converter would work with anything but an iphone

Thats a good idea. I havent tried this myself but its not experience that the hadware needs an attached mic when plugging the 3.5mm into speakers. I use high quality headphones with no attatched mic to listen to music on the HD and can take calls via the phone or skype by using the headphones and the phone mic.

crankshaft said:
Mine works fine setup like this.
Sound quality when playing tunes has always been fine but the voice quality aint that great, the person at the other end sometime complains about echo.
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Same setup as me for the last 12 months. I have to play around with the volume setting on the HU / HD all the time - its not ideal but the internal mic seems to pick up voice fine (and echo!).

[Q] Playback through Car aux connection

I play audio podcasts through car's aux in and just plug in the other end to my Focus's headphone jack. I have noticed that many times the podcast suddenly lowers volume to nearly inaudible levels and happens intermittently.
Once the problem shows up if I
- play songs, the volume level is fine
- stop and start playback of podcast, the problem persists.
- unplug and continue playback on Focus' speaker, the volume level is just fine
- unplug and plug it back in and the problem goes away.
- never have this problem when playing back over headphones (when in gym)
I have this problem only with Podcasts and don't get it at all with songs or videos.
Anyone else noticed this?

Audio output sucks on this phone, that is for sure. Major issues. Sorry to hear about yours.

Thresher said:
Audio output sucks on this phone, that is for sure. Major issues. Sorry to hear about yours.
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how so? i'm not having any problems at all.

Did any of you notice it's not your standard 35mm jack? The headphones that come with the phone are clearly deeper than the standard jack, and have two bands around it instead of the normal one.
I presume you are using standard cable to connect to car's aux jack....
I would check to see if there is a special samsung accessory to make the proprietary jack into a standard aux output?
Samsung are notorious for using this style of jack on their phones. The Galaxy line of android phones use the same jack.

dead_on_the_floor said:
Did any of you notice it's not your standard 35mm jack? The headphones that come with the phone are clearly deeper than the standard jack, and have two bands around it instead of the normal one.
I presume you are using standard cable to connect to car's aux jack....
I would check to see if there is a special samsung accessory to make the proprietary jack into a standard aux output?
Samsung are notorious for using this style of jack on their phones. The Galaxy line of android phones use the same jack.
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that is weird. i hook mine up to my car with the same jack i used for my iphone with no problems. in fact i am under the assumption the sound quality is actually better than with the iphone.
maybe this is a canada thing?

The plug is set up to use headsets with the microphone, and may not work well with some older stereo audio cables. However, I have used it with a podcast and found it to work quite well. I suggest trying another cable, cuz the Focus works fine.

The line level output of the 3.5mm jack is approx. 40% less than that of the iphone, or my HTC Tilt2. That is the issue I have and that others have commented on.
For instance, iphone plugged in playing on my car stereo, Panteras Cemetary Gates @ 320kbps MP3 is mind boggling loud at 50% volume on the car and 100% volume on the iphone. With the Focus the car stereo volume needs to be at 90% to be equal to the volume of the iphone.
Also, since the Focus needs to be at 100% and the car stereo nearly 100% you hear the phones whining, hissing and popping and every non-music portion.
Super lame.

There's some volume problems that I've noticed on the Focus, in that it's not consistent through playback sessions and such.
The iPhone 4 uses a Cirrus Logic codec with an integrated headphone amplifier, the Focus seems to use the built-in codec with it's headphone amplifier, which might not have the same amount of oomph.
I've measured a 7-8dB lower volume on the Focus when using a line-out cable to an Audio Precision test machine.

Thanks for reporting that! Great post.

Does anyone have this problem?
Ok, I have a mp3 car adaptor that I used with my Tilt and Tilt2 without any problems. Rich sound and bass. I plugged in my Focus (just got it last night) and music only comes out one speaker.

In my '95 M3, I run an Alpine HU (9814 IIRC) with a Line in Adaptor, I run very HD (thick) gold plated lines and a Splitter (all from Monoprice.com, one goes to my portable Sirius, other pops up by my center console sunglass cubby, split happens under the passeger seat) and I usually have my 120Gb Zune attached to it, but I tried with the Phone the other day and it worked great. Played a Tool concert and it sounded as good as the Zune. Like the Zune I set the volume to about 80%, still had plenty of head room for serious volume in the Alpine. (only way to listen to Tool is LOUD!) I do run an old school Pioneer Amp, Pioneer Kevlar Components, 2 JL Audio Stealth Boxes (each is an 8" Sub).

I want to escalate this issue but I need you guys to quickly reply on the MS forums so that it gets taken seriously. Please hit the "I need an answer too" button and give some sort of descriptive reply.
http://social.answers.microsoft.com...7/thread/9c92dad9-5e12-465d-a0fb-b9465179b436
I hope that his is a software side optimization since we are able to make the volume higher with the diagnostic codes.

I added my vote there.

Raptor550 said:
I have a second complaint. When I stick a headphone jack in the mic turns off, it probably is expecting an inline mic with the headphones. My problem is when I then go to pull out my headphones the phone doesn't notice and will continue to not hear. It takes two or three times reinserting and pulling out the headphones to remidy this. Is anyone else haveing this issue.
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Same problem here. But is worst, I connect the Focus to my Car Auxiliary jack to use it as a mega speaker, I mean, when someone calls I can hear them, but they can not hear me. The microphone is dead when I plug it in. Someone knows a fix for this?

jaraya13 said:
Same problem here. But is worst, I connect the Focus to my Car Auxiliary jack to use it as a mega speaker, I mean, when someone calls I can hear them, but they can not hear me. The microphone is dead when I plug it in. Someone knows a fix for this?
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Can't say that I have a fix for it, but it may be the connection your cable is making with the jack in the phone. I do the same thing, have the phone mounted in a jack around the same height as my head unit and people hear me fine when I speak during a call. I am currently using a cable from radioshack designed for recessed headphone jacks. Can't think of the brand off the top of my head however.

rswilson411 said:
Can't say that I have a fix for it, but it may be the connection your cable is making with the jack in the phone. I do the same thing, have the phone mounted in a jack around the same height as my head unit and people hear me fine when I speak during a call. I am currently using a cable from radioshack designed for recessed headphone jacks. Can't think of the brand off the top of my head however.
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Hi pal, thanks for the reply, but I couldn't understand very well your explanation. What is a recessed headphone jack? What is the head unit?
Thanks in advance!

I have not noticed this problem however the microphone shutting off is very annoying and funny since at&t says texting while driving is unsafe yet i have to unplug my phone while driving to turn on speaker and talk. they need to fix that ASAP

Inline remote and mic headphones don't work

Here's another problem I found, the standard inline earphones with mic and single button doesn't work.. it worked just fine on my Desire HD and nexus S as well as nexus one..
I tried 2 different ones, my guess is that the Atrix headphone jack only has audio out.
if you guys have found otherwise let me know how I can get that to work..
if in fact the Atrix is only audio out on the headphone jack I'll definitely return it tomorrow and get something else..

I just grabbed an iPhone headset (stereo) and made a call and it worked great.

I'm having this same problem. I used a pair of SkullCandy 50/50 and only got audio. The mic was still working on the phone, and the buttons on the headphones didn't do anything.

I have ibeats headset, everything works on DesireHD and my iphone. but for some reason none of it works on the Atrix.. beh..

I dug out an old pair of headphones that came with a Palm Pre, and the mic works on that. The button also brings up a menu to start a voice program. They do not have volume buttons so I cannot test that.
This is really going to annoy me if this phone can only use crappy headsets.
waltah! said:
I just grabbed an iPhone headset (stereo) and made a call and it worked great.
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Was this a standard one that comes with the iPhone? Do the volume buttons do anything?

Skullcandy FMJ w/mic
I have the skullcandy full metal jacket w/mic and it works fine. Although when I first inserted the jack into the plug (*beavis laugh) the phone still played music out of the speaker(s) on the phone. So I pulled the plug out and reinserted while twisting the plug. Dont push too hard cuz it seems the plug does not go all the way in. The curve on the case near the jack makes it appear that it is not fully inserted. Try cleaning your plug as well.

Both headphones i tried stick out of the phone a little bit, and the same amount. Plus audio works on both, I would think that audio would not work if one was not plugged in correctly

xdraconis said:
I dug out an old pair of headphones that came with a Palm Pre, and the mic works on that. The button also brings up a menu to start a voice program. They do not have volume buttons so I cannot test that.
This is really going to annoy me if this phone can only use crappy headsets.
Was this a standard one that comes with the iPhone? Do the volume buttons do anything?
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Just tested and the volume buttons don't do a thing.

I tried "removing" vlingo and voice commands/search, but still can't use the remote button on my headphones.

might have bad jack
The jack might be broken or not connected well. It is a modular piece that can be removed without de-soldering if you take the phone apart you can test each ring on the plug/jack for continuity by touching the meter to the springy metal contacts that touch the circuit board. I would just do a return or atleast have att try other headphones. Im not sure about the volume control but the single button on my mic controls everything including media forward reverse and pause. I can even get vlingo and google voice search to come up ( a long press on the other hand opens the media application).

Old thread... but for future reference, Motorola switched the headset pinout on this phone and the Xoom. You'll have to ask the Cliq guys what they use, or you could wire a adapter cable up.
I can't post links, but look up the Motorola OH20 and motorola.com /Support/CA-EN/OMTP-Headset-Support

Wow, that is kinda retarded that moto did that. I'd never even heard of OMTP until just now. Seems MOTO is the only one that does this. Some 'open' standard. Seems the only way around it would be to use a B headset.

Wired Headsets Don't work due to OMTP
Well...
I am a huge fan of Bluetooth technology and have just about every kind of handsfree, however I was really looking forward to the 3.5 mm jack. There are some pretty impressive headsets available.
This is what I found about OMTP:
http://www.motorola.com/Support/CA-EN/OMTP-Headset-Support
Here is an option I am pursuing:
http://www.nox-audio.com/Products/OMTP-Adapter-16
I hope this helps...

secretlevel said:
Old thread... but for future reference, Motorola switched the headset pinout on this phone and the Xoom. You'll have to ask the Cliq guys what they use, or you could wire a adapter cable up.
I can't post links, but look up the Motorola OH20 and motorola.com /Support/CA-EN/OMTP-Headset-Support
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This isn't the problem. I have a xoom and the same headset can play/pause.

So, no solutions to this except for spending another 50 bucks to buy a new head set that's omtp compatible?

I have a set of ear buds rat came with a blackberry bold from work. It only has a single button but it does do play/pause in winamp and the mix works. There is a post in the accessories section with some options and reports of ways working for everyone.
Sent from my Atrix using XDA Premium.

tried:
a iPhone 3g earphone with only one button works fine for me.
several iPhone 3gs 3-button earphones - don't work at all, even the mic

[Q] Built-in mic muted when using TSR headphone

Hello,
when I plug-in my headphones (3.5" jack, 3pin TRS connector, no microphone) the phone thinks they have a mic and the built-in microphone is disabled and I cannot make calls (I could, but the other person would not hear my voice).
I did check with ddms and I've noticed that android does not detect any differences between TRS 3-pin connectors (w/o mic) and TRRS 4-pin ones (w/mic, like the one that ships with the phone):
Code:
08-12 17:58:59.340: VERBOSE/HeadsetObserver(531): Intent.ACTION_HEADSET_PLUG: state: 1 name: Headset mic: 1
so I though it could be a hardware limitation/issue or a kernel one. The status icon (Gingerbread 2.3.4) always shows a headset with a tiny mic, whether I connect a headset with mic or just standard headphones.
My question is: does this problem appear only on my blade (i.e. is my blade broken?) or is it a "general" issue present in all blades?
thank you for your help

slashdotted said:
My question is: does this problem appear only on my blade (i.e. is my blade broken?) or is it a "general" issue present in all blades?
thank you for your help
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It's not just your Blade. I'm running stock 2.2 (got it today) and while there's no mic on the icon, the phone always disables the built-in mic even when I plug in regular headphones. Sound recorder and voice calls are both affected.
Have you found a workaround? I'd be OK without detection if the phone always assumed the attached headset doesn't have a mic and keeps the built-in one enabled.

Same here. Im on CM7 and even if i plug in the 3.5mm (3pin) headphones, the phone mic gets disabled and in the status bar i can see the icon of headset (no matter when i use headset or headphones).
Keeping this aside, i had a more worst problem. If i plugin any headphones or headset other than the stock one provided with phone, they wont fit in the socket correctly. Even if i push them tightly into the socket (and left) , they will come out by 1 or 2 mm making the headphones unusable (what happens is only one ear phone works). And both earphones work as long as i keep it pressed and held tightly into the socket. But i cant hold it all the time i was hearing to the music right...? WTF... And i figured out why this happens. This is due to the back cover which was designed foolishly. The back cover of phone has a tiny hole for headset jack which prevents the other 3.5mm headphones to completely enter into it (this is sure in my case). If i remove the back cover and plugin 3.5 headphones they will be fit completely without any problem (even though here i cant use the phone mic). Another foolish design of the back cover is the exposure of the power switch making it more vulnerable to damage.
I had an idea to cut out the extra plastic thing at the headset hole of back cover to make it usable with 3.5mm headphones, but i fear i would loose warranty. Will i loose the warranty if i do so..?
After watching all these i think the headset jack of our phone is not correct. It might be having difference in the connector lengths. Don't wanna blame the rom/kernel for this. After all those were just my opinions.

Exactly the same happens on my blade using default 2.1 rom that came with the phone.
As for the above post, perhaps you should see if you can get a new back cover? Its only yours having that issue
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Jack connector problem
bharat_xda19 said:
Keeping this aside, i had a more worst problem. If i plugin any headphones or headset other than the stock one provided with phone, they wont fit in the socket correctly. Even if i push them tightly into the socket (and left) , they will come out by 1 or 2 mm making the headphones unusable (what happens is only one ear phone works). And both earphones work as long as i keep it pressed and held tightly into the socket. But i cant hold it all the time i was hearing to the music right...? WTF... And i figured out why this happens. This is due to the back cover which was designed foolishly. The back cover of phone has a tiny hole for headset jack which prevents the other 3.5mm headphones to completely enter into it (this is sure in my case). If i remove the back cover and plugin 3.5 headphones they will be fit completely without any problem (even though here i cant use the phone mic). Another foolish design of the back cover is the exposure of the power switch making it more vulnerable to damage.
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I have exactly the same problem with some jacks but not all (my headset from Nokia fits in well, a retractable jack I've bought for my car fits almost well (it never drops by itself but if you touch it to much, it does)).
The biggest problem I have is that some applications ("music" and "listen") start playing when the faulty contact happens, even if I was listening for music in another application (jamendo) this is really a pain because jamendo keeps playing music and a podcast starts to play in "listen". Is there a way to tell those applications not to react to the headset being plugged/unplugged ? (I guess the faulty contact may be acting like a remote control press or something...)
Thanks for your ideas
Edit : it seems related to this : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=625731 and to this http://android.modaco.com/topic/301335-the-headphone-bug/ and it seems that this application : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.idunnolol.headsetblocker&hl=fr can be used to configure the behavior. I'll try it tonight and tell if it solved the problem.

slashdotted said:
Hello,
when I plug-in my headphones (3.5" jack, 3pin TRS connector, no microphone) the phone thinks they have a mic and the built-in microphone is disabled and I cannot make calls (I could, but the other person would not hear my voice).
I did check with ddms and I've noticed that android does not detect any differences between TRS 3-pin connectors (w/o mic) and TRRS 4-pin ones (w/mic, like the one that ships with the phone):
Code:
08-12 17:58:59.340: VERBOSE/HeadsetObserver(531): Intent.ACTION_HEADSET_PLUG: state: 1 name: Headset mic: 1
so I though it could be a hardware limitation/issue or a kernel one. The status icon (Gingerbread 2.3.4) always shows a headset with a tiny mic, whether I connect a headset with mic or just standard headphones.
My question is: does this problem appear only on my blade (i.e. is my blade broken?) or is it a "general" issue present in all blades?
thank you for your help
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Does any body found the answer/solution of this????
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How can i make a decent phone call in my car with InDrive and car mode?

Hello everybody,
that's my problem: i can't make a decent phone call when i'm in my car, with my phone connected to my stereo. I don't have any bluetooth set; i just connect the phone to the stereo and to my car speakers with an AUX cable.
If i make a regular call, the phone output goes to the speakers, and i can hear well, but nobody can hear me, because the speakerphone is off (and i'm too far from the phone).
If i turn on the speakerphone, people can hear me well but i can't hear what they're saying because the phone output isn't going to the speakers anymore but comes out of my phone's speakerphone, that isn't really loud.
I'm using InDrive
(I used to use Car Home Ultra but InDrive is better).
I set on the "car mode", so i can set my screen to stay on while connected to the car charger. (Anyway, car mode it's not so usefull now that the "home" buttons comes back to the launcher home, not to InDrive home...)
I've Paranoid Android 3.99 with Android 4.3 but i had the same problem with the stock ROM.
That's simply so stupid.
Why can't InDrive simply redirect the output to the speaker while activating the speakerphone input, so people can hear me well?
Am i missing something?
Thank you!
P.S: Is there a way to bring back the old "home button" behaviour, so that if i press "home" i go to my inDrive home?

I would either get a bluetooth or get a mount holder so its close enough to me to speak.

badboy47 said:
I would either get a bluetooth or get a mount holder so its close enough to me to speak.
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Yep, i've got one of these but people can't hear me anyway. My car is old and there's a lot of background noise.
Maybe it's an InDrive bug, even if it would be strange, because a car home should do only 2 things, and this is one of them. I will re-try Car Home Ultra in the meanwhile..