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Hi all. I am trying to learn the finer points of cooking a rom. I havent been able to cook a new version of Comm Manager into any rom, because when I run BuildOS, it finds a duplicate copy, even though I have searched and searched, and still cannot find it. Same goes for Config_PT. I need to edit config_pt to add UC to the rom. Does anyone know how to do either of these
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Hi all. I am trying to learn the finer points of cooking a rom. I havent been able to cook a new version of Comm Manager into any rom, because when I run BuildOS, it finds a duplicate copy, even though I have searched and searched, and still cannot find it. Same goes for Config_PT. I need to edit config_pt to add UC to the rom. Does anyone know how to do either of these
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I'm not sure what phone you are trying to cook for but Comm Manager stuff is located in the OEM folder under OEMAPPS on my phone. You need to remove the comm manager files and delete the .rgu reg keys related to it.
I am trying to cook into a Touch, using the no2chem base 107 rom. Everytime i try to run buildos when cooking in a comm manager, it says it finds a duplicate of commmanager.exe. This file, however, does not exist anywhere in my oems or sys folders. Same goes for config_pt.txt. Any idea where else to check?
OK, so I just did a check, and the file might be being created by a dsm in oem\operatorPKG_PT. How can I change this file to not create this file
ghettofreeryder said:
I am trying to cook into a Touch, using the no2chem base 107 rom. Everytime i try to run buildos when cooking in a comm manager, it says it finds a duplicate of commmanager.exe. This file, however, does not exist anywhere in my oems or sys folders. Same goes for config_pt.txt. Any idea where else to check?
OK, so I just did a check, and the file might be being created by a dsm in oem\operatorPKG_PT. How can I change this file to not create this file
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I just checked the basekit No2Chem made for the Vogue. CommManager.exe is located in the OEM/OEMAPPS folder. There are a total of 5 files you need to remove from that folder to get rid of commmanger completly.
Alright, I found the issue. THe files werent showing up in a search because hide protected system files in the folder options of XP was checked. Ive been trying to find these files for 3 days, now I know. Thanks for the help
First of all, sorry for openeing a new thread; but surely i have searched all of chef central din't find anything much or maybe din't understand which one was my solution.
The problem is after boot of my ROM ( regardless of which boot ie 1st 2nd or 10th ) i get 2 pop up errors:
1) "The file 'programs' cannot be opened. Either is not signed with a trusted certificate or one of it's components cannot be found.If the problem persists please try reinstalling or restoring this file."
2) "The file 'Tools' cannot be opened. Either is not signed with a trusted certificate or one of it's components cannot be found.If the problem persists please try reinstalling or restoring this file."
I have a folder called "Tools" in the start menu, and it works fine, and everything inside also works good. But still this error.
I'm pretty sure all the Packages cooked which are meant to go in this folder do go in.
And the programs error is it anything to do with the fact that in the APP.DAT in almost all packages i have used similar naming:
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Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs"):-Directory("System")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Tools\Tweaks"):-File("Flip_IT.lnk","\Windows\_Flip_IT.lnk")
and also added similar REG in the REGS :
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Shell\StartInfo\Start\Tools\Tweaks\Flip_it.lnk]
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As i was not sure which one will decide the location, so some packages have only .REGs, some have only APP.DATs and some have both ( but all the locations are same that is sure !)
Please help me with this.
Thanks alot.
PS: I have enabled NoCert in EVK, and also cooked in the latest ( 2015 ? ) SDKCerts EXT. And after that no other apps give an unsigned problem.
Just a question, this isnt the full app.dat right?
Code:
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs"):-Directory("System")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Tools\Tweaks"):-File("Flip_IT.lnk","\Windows\_Flip_IT.lnk")
If yes, you miss some lines,this app.dat is just copying a link to startmenu but i guess that you need the program in Windows.
i'm afraid that is the full App.DAT
here is another one
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Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs"):-Directory("System")
Directory("\Windows"):-Directory("appdb")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_end_mid_2.png","\Windows\_end_mid_2.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_end_mid_8.png","\Windows\_end_mid_8.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_folder_2.png","\Windows\_folder_2.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_folder_8.png","\Windows\_folder_8.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_folder_8_2.png","\Windows\_folder_8_2.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_lock_gray.png","\Windows\_lock_gray.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_lock_green.png","\Windows\_lock_green.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_lock_red.png","\Windows\_lock_red.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_logo_2.png","\Windows\_logo_2.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_single_2.png","\Windows\_single_2.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_single_8.png","\Windows\_single_8.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_start_2.png","\Windows\_start_2.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_start_8.png","\Windows\_start_8.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_suite_2.png","\Windows\_suite_2.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_suite_8.png","\Windows\_suite_8.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_ack_2.png","\Windows\_ack_2.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_ack_8.png","\Windows\_ack_8.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_compiling.png","\Windows\_compiling.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_disable_2.png","\Windows\_disable_2.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_disable_8.png","\Windows\_disable_8.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_dt_2.png","\Windows\_dt_2.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_dt_8.png","\Windows\_dt_8.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_dukeok_2.png","\Windows\_dukeok_2.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_dukeok_8.png","\Windows\_dukeok_8.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_empty.png","\Windows\_empty.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_end_ams_2.png","\Windows\_end_ams_2.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_end_ams_8.png","\Windows\_end_ams_8.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_logo_8.png","\Windows\_logo_8.png")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\\Tools\System"):-File("Java.lnk","\Windows\Java.lnk")
This seems to be correct right ?
Can you please tell me does APP.DAT decide the position or REG ? and what if both exist.
Thanks.
Can an incomplete app.dat cause those errors ?
EDIT: i have identified 3 packages have incomlete app.dat
1) task manager
app.dat says :
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Tools\"):-File("Task Manager.lnk","\Windows\dotFred Task Manager.lnk")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Tools\Utilities"):-File("Regeditor.lnk","\Windows\dotFred RegEdit.lnk")
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reg also defines a location.
2) flip it
app.dat says
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs"):-Directory("System")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Tools\Tweaks"):-File("Flip_IT.lnk","\Windows\_Flip_IT.lnk")
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reg defines location and settings.
3) torch
app.dat says
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Tools\Utilities"):-File("hTorch Flashlight.lnk","\Windows\hTorch Flashlight.lnk")
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reg defines settings only.
4) reg editor
app.dat says:
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Tool\Utilities"):-File("PHM RegEdit.lnk","\Windows\PHM RegEdit.lnk")
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reg defines sttings and location.
Can anyone of the above cause the issue ?
can some please help me correct them ?
Thanks.
EDIT: can someone please tell me the REG to enable Call Waiting Tone.
I don't hear any tone it when i have a call waiting.
The app.dat decide the position of file and folders.
I found thi " Flip-IT" from a Tom Codon thread and i used Cab Converter for extracting it.
This is the App.dat that i got:
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Tools"):-File("Flip_IT.lnk","\Windows\Flip_IT.lnk")
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In red are the subfolders that doesnt come with the original.
There are some difference with your but i dunno if this is the problem but worth try.
Umm well i have defined those locations as to fit them lnk in the place i want in the start menu.. isn't that the way ?
Im Quoting you from 1st post:
1) "The file 'programs' cannot be opened. Either is not signed with a trusted certificate or one of it's components cannot be found.If the problem persists please try reinstalling or restoring this file."
2) "The file 'Tools' cannot be opened. Either is not signed with a trusted certificate or one of it's components cannot be found.If the problem persists please try reinstalling or restoring this file."
you got this popup error automatically, no need to open any folder\file?
It seems that you put a wrong shortcut to files called "Tools and programs" in your StratUp folder.
Check some other App.dat
i have checked all APP.DAT in the EXT can't find any which i cook and does not get cokked in the correct location ?
Umm and the two errors are seperate not in one only.
So i guess the conflict is there with 2 seperate folders "Tools" and "programs" respectively.
Ideally it should not conflict with tools, because i do have a tools folder in the start menu.. so everything should go there :/
any other help?
Try to cook a rom without one of the latest apps that you have add and if the problem gone then you have find the issue,after that post here the responsable so we can look at it.
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i have checked all APP.DAT in the EXT can't find any which i cook and does not get cokked in the correct location ?
Umm and the two errors are seperate not in one only.
So i guess the conflict is there with 2 seperate folders "Tools" and "programs" respectively.
Ideally it should not conflict with tools, because i do have a tools folder in the start menu.. so everything should go there :/
any other help?
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Try to cook a rom without one of the latest apps that you have add and if the problem gone then you have find the issue,after that post here the responsable so we can look at it.
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I'll try and cook without the 5 EXT i identified with wrong app.dats ?
I have had this problem since long, but i din't bother much, so i really don't know whats the issue..
it has been there basically since i tweaked the start menu locations.
now i have to get rid of it cuz any ROM user won't like to just press ok and continue with the ROM.
I'll try.
My suggestion is to try one by one but ofcourse this way you need to flash 5 times your phone.
Did you ,maybe,tweaked your Initflashfile.dat?
madnish30 said:
I'll try and cook without the 5 EXT i identified with wrong app.dats ?
I have had this problem since long, but i din't bother much, so i really don't know whats the issue..
it has been there basically since i tweaked the start menu locations.
now i have to get rid of it cuz any ROM user won't like to just press ok and continue with the ROM.
I'll try.
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No i don't play with initiaflash... because i don't know much about it..
I guess i will not cook anyone of them so that if its one of them i will just download fresh CABs for them and convert them into EXTs rather than flashing my phone 5 times..
Thanks alot.
i tried cooking without those apps no luck
Same 2 errors hence those 2 apps are ok..
Attached my Initflashfile.dat if that helps.
Please help.
You really need to look in your startup folder to see what is in there. That's the first thing to do. Then, look in the start menu and see if anything weird is going on. Particularly, look for corrupted files or folders. If there are any files that look like folders, that could be the issue.
You're initflashfiles.dat is effin' huge!! Learn to make a cab, or relocate apps to windows. You must be wasting a ton of storage space.
thanks for the help Ted,
In the startup i see 2 folders
1) programs in which there is tools->system->Arkswitch.
2) tools -> system -> XDA_UC.
rest are the normal i guess.
Then in the startmenu it seems fine.
but one problem there i see in the start menu i see a system folder which is empty AFAIK i did not create and such path why is that there ?
You're initflashfiles.dat is effin' huge!! Learn to make a cab, or relocate apps to windows. You must be wasting a ton of storage space.
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I'm not good with initflashfiles.dat i don't know much about it.
Can you please link me to a thread where i can learn about it.
Also what do you mean by CABs ? does that mean using UC to install via CABs ?
And how can i reloacte apps to windows ?
can you give a little explaination please.
thanks alot for the help.
The app.dat for Arksswitch is
Directory("\Windows"):-Directory("StartUp")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs"):-Directory("Tools")
Directory("\Program Files"):-Directory("ArkSwitch")
Directory("\Program Files\ArkSwitch"):-Directory("Theme")
Directory("\Program Files\ArkSwitch"):-Directory("NLS")
Directory("\Program Files\ArkSwitch\NLS"):-File("1033.xml","\Windows\1033.xml")
Directory("\Program Files\ArkSwitch\NLS"):-File("1036.xml","\Windows\1036.xml")
Directory("\Program Files\ArkSwitch\NLS"):-File("1040.xml","\Windows\1040.xml")
Directory("\Program Files\ArkSwitch\NLS"):-File("1049.xml","\Windows\1049.xml")
Directory("\Program Files\ArkSwitch\Theme"):-File("config.xml","\Windows\config.xml")
Directory("\Program Files\ArkSwitch\Theme"):-File("status-bar.png","\Windows\status-bar.png")
Directory("\Program Files\ArkSwitch\Theme"):-File("x-deselected.png","\Windows\x-deselected.png")
Directory("\Program Files\ArkSwitch\Theme"):-File("x-selected.png","\Windows\x-selected.png")
Directory("\Program Files\ArkSwitch"):-File("Microsoft.WindowsMobile.Gestures.dll","\Windows\Microsoft.WindowsMobile.Gestures.dll")
Directory("\Program Files\ArkSwitch"):-File("ArkSwitch.exe","\Windows\ArkSwitch.exe")
Directory("\Program Files\ArkSwitch"):-File("ArkSwitchNative.dll","\Windows\ArkSwitchNative.dll")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Tools\System"):-File("ArkSwitch.lnk","\Windows\_ArkSwitch.lnk")
Directory("\Windows\StartUp\Programs\\Tools\System"):-File("ArkSwitch.lnk","\Windows\_ArkSwitch.lnk")
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and the app.dat for XDA_UC is
Directory("\Windows\StartUp\Tools\System"):-File("XDA_UC.mscr","\Windows\XDA_UC.mscr")
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Please help me correct the two in order to remove the warning.
Will try and cook without them to see if they cause they problem.
I don't use xda_uc, but delete the sub-folders in startup and the problems go away.
App.dat copies files from windows to other places. In many cases, an app works fine in windows. You just need to fix paths (shortcuts, registry) so they point to windows. It's a complete waste to have two copies of all your files, especially when the ones in rom work perfectly fine. Personally, I don't even use app.dat's, except to create directories and to copy the important customization links into startup.
Edit: ok, so I'm looking at your initflashfiles.dat. One, there's something weird with your Manila twitter lines. Why does it appear twice? That's kind of a waste, and will slow down 1st boot. Also, you've got a dozen mui files in there. Just put in the one you need (0409 or whatever), and delete the rest. You've to two copies of a bunch of files that you don't use. Remove the lines you don't need from the app.dat.
As far as relocating apps, you've got 20 or so that would work fine in windows. For example, clean ram does not have to be in program files. Just leave the exe's in windows, and send 1 lang file to \windows\lang. The app will work fine. Do you really need 20 lang files for cleanram? Dude, that's a total waste.
Here's an easy one to fix: pocket rar. You've got two copies of it now on your device. Just get a shortcut for it to windows, and you're done. You stick rar.exe in a package, along with the shortcut, and send the shortcut to the start menu as normal. Speaking of which, it looks like you've got a syntax error there:
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\\Tools\System"):-File("Pocket RAR.lnk","\Windows\_Pocket RAR.lnk")
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Get rid of the extra \.
Thanks sir i got it, now i will impliment it.
Sir if you don't use app.dats then how do you chose which package shows up where in the start menu ?
I do pretty much everything with morscripts. I put all files and directories in zip files that are unzipped during customization, and all shortcuts are created by a script. This reduces the rom file count by hundreds (I have about 1800 rom files), and the zip files reduce the storage memory for files that have to be inserted elsewhere. There's also a restore script that resores files that change a lot and that aren't practical to cook in.
Anyway, were I you, I'd work on fixing all of your packages to make the rom more efficiently designed (instead of worrying about upgrading build numbers). I bet you could removed 500 files and clean up a crazy amount of memory (like 50 mb). It can be tricky moving an app to windows. Some apps have .ini files or similar settings files, and the app will crash or not load if the setting file is read-only, so you need to get the file into windows without having it read only (do it with an app.dat that copies or renames it to windows). Some apps have their settings in the same damn file name (like settings.txt), so you can't have them both in the same directory.
To relocate to windows, almost anything in the root program folder (like \program files\cleanram) can be moved straight to windows. Sub-folders generally just need to be moved to \windows. Typically, an exe looks for .dlls first in its own directory and second in \windows, so just about any dll can be moved to windows without issue. It will then usually look for the support files in the same directory that it's located in. The only apps I've had problems with are resco keyboard (the skin files seem to be hard coded to program files), and the latest Power Radio (2.4.0.2, or something like that). I had a bunch of power radio packages that worked fine in windows, but the latest wouldn't, so I just didn't do the upgrade.
It's usually easiest just to test things without cooking. In your case, you've already got everything in windows. Just click on exes and see what works and what doesn't. Some apps will need sub-folders relocated to windows, and it looks like your cab-to-ext package unfortunately renamed the rom files, so some files in the program folder will need to be copied to windows. Just do this for testing purposes, to see what works and what doesn't. I bet your rom is effin huge, and you could make it a lot leaner by cleaning your packages up. The cab-to-ext makers all more or less suck; it's better to do things manually (or with kheb 1.1).
Edit: you've got the tachan black theme in there twice, too. You really, really don't need those files copied elsewhere. I'm guessing there's a reg file with all the file locations (in HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Today). Fix it!!! All you need to do is do a 'replace all' and replace \\My Documents\\Themes\\tacchan23black with \\windows. Then delete that gawdawful app.dat file (both occurrences). That will remove 101 redundant files.
Do you remember this from your 1st post?
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs"):-Directory("System")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Tools\Tweaks"):-File("Flip_IT.lnk","\Windows\_Flip_IT.lnk")
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Here is (marked in red) your System folder (empty) in startmenu.
madnish30 said:
Then in the startmenu it seems fine.
but one problem there i see in the start menu i see a system folder which is empty AFAIK i did not create and such path why is that there ?
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Thanks ted & af974.
i will try to do things you suggested.
But Ted, what does the attachment mscr do ?
I attached and EXT package from Chucky's Rom thanks to birkoffsjunk, i guess you will understand what mscr does looking at it.
madnish30 said:
Thanks ted & af974.
i will try to do things you suggested.
But Ted, what does the attachment mscr do ?
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I've been reading up on cooking ROM's and with the help of leeston i managed to create a basic ROM earlier in the week. After searching for guides / tutorials on this stuff im really not that much the wiser, i cant seem to find anything that explains it well enough, there always missing details. The actual cooking process seems fairly straightforward but its those extra bits im missing ie
how do i add my own packages - am i right in just copying them to the SYS folder or is there more to it ?
how do i edit the registry - I know how to edit the registry once the ROM is loaded onto my phone but how do i do it from the ROM without the phone ?
how do i add things to the start menu - When i add packages to the SYS folder and load the ROM into my phone the shortcuts dont seem to be in my start menu
how do i add sense - i've loaded the packages but it never starts and theres no sense option in today settings
im new to this so as you'd imagine the questions i have are endless ...
Im sure most of this info is on XDA already somewhere but i just cant find it, maybe im searching for the wrong term or something.
Any help from the chef's would be great, perhaps you could provide links to tutorials / info you've used when learning to cook. Im sure this stuff would be useful to everyone and may even encourage more to have a go at cooking .
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1.how do i add my own packages - am i right in just copying them to the SYS folder or is there more to it ?
2.how do i edit the registry - I know how to edit the registry once the ROM is loaded onto my phone but how do i do it from the ROM without the phone ?
3.how do i add things to the start menu - When i add packages to the SYS folder and load the ROM into my phone the shortcuts dont seem to be in my start menu
4.how do i add sense - i've loaded the packages but it never starts and theres no sense option in today settings
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I am still new to cooking but I'll tell you what i believe to be correct.
1.Yes. To add a package to a rom you put the package into the SYS folder.
However be aware that the kitchen used for the TG01 cannot handle EXT (visual) packages, only OEM (old) packages can be used. Use Totalfires package converter to convert between the 2 types.
The above info is not strictly true but is what you need to know when cooking for the TG and i don't have the time or knowledge to write a complete tutorial.
2. Editing the registry is all to do with .RGU files, you can create a package with a new one in or edit the existing ones within the packages in the SYS folder. You can edit them with notepad but i suggest using Notepad2.
Once you open an .RGU file you should recognize the reg key text in the file and edit it accordingly. As far as i am aware the file MUST have REGEDIT4 in the first line and an empty line at the bottom in order to work. Another way is to edit the regkey on your device then export the regkey using resco or something similar, then rename the resulting file from .reg to .rgu then open it in note pad and copy and paste it into another packages .rgu file, or create a custom package for that .rgu file.
The registry can also be modified using cab files during autorun, but this can be a little messy as the cab can be uninstalled by the end user causing problems.
3. To do this you need to edit the initflashs.txt file within the . This can be done manually or with one of the many package tools available on this site. The one i use is below, it does the hardwork for you, you click a few options and it edits the required files as needed.
4. Sense is a funny one. You should just need to add all the required packages to the SYS folder and away it goes. Unfortunately this is rarely the case. It should just a case of making sure all the sense packages are there, including its many dependencies. Sense is one of my weaker areas so maybe some one else has better advice.
Hope this is useful.
do you have a loooong far way, but read the forumposts an try, try and shortPin and try. that was my way, or is my way. i have don´t helping, all found with google and in xda forum.
unfortunately, my English knowledge is terrible. otherwise I would write more.
best to dump a officiels ROM or miROM5 , then you have an example
related post here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=750261
PC Software Reg-editor
http://ceregeditor.mdsoft.pl/index.php?id=1〈=en
CAB to OEM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3942000&postcount=1
EXT to OEM
http://www.ppckitchen.org/forums/re...e666.ppckitchen.org/Tools/EXT%20to%20PPCk.exe
All folder to cooking need a .dsm (and/or) .rgu file
RGU name Generator (such as Reg- file) , dsm become automatically
http://www.famkruithof.net/uuid/uuidgen (Fetch UUIDs of another type to Version 4)
do you have a loooong far way!
... Or make a good donation to nokser or ffboy, they teach you
Hi my friend, I have a problem to cook a ROM with cab which required a reboot or witch have a information message ( SWYPE or GPSMOdDriver for example)
Do you know a solution for this please?
Thanks in advance.
Thanks for the info leeston and miro ;-). I havent had time to try it yet but will be over weekend and im almost sure now i know where to find the registry files ill be able to cook something decent up since that was my main problem. Thanks again for the help.
EVEALEX62 said:
Hi my friend, I have a problem to cook a ROM with cab which required a reboot or witch have a information message ( SWYPE or GPSMOdDriver for example)
Do you know a solution for this please?
Thanks in advance.
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I may be wrong but when the cab files are first installed doesnt it automatically reboot ? If not you can always do a manual reboot ;-).
I've tried everything to get sense working but im just having no luck ... copied the packages to the sys folder, flashes fine, boots fine but no sense and now theres no setting shortcut in the start menu ?
Could i ask for the exact procedure for installing sense please ? Im getting my packages from here but replacing the 2017 home with 2016. Could i perhaps be missing something ?
Thanks again
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I may be wrong but when the cab files are first installed doesnt it automatically reboot ? If not you can always do a manual reboot ;-).
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I have try to delete the line "Reboot" after autocabinstall but nothing change the phone always reboot ... I think the only thing is to do OEM package...
I have test with many cabs but nothing works same as you with Sense ...
Have you found solutions ?
EVEALEX62 said:
Hi my friend, I have a problem to cook a ROM with cab which required a reboot or witch have a information message ( SWYPE or GPSMOdDriver for example)
Do you know a solution for this please?
Thanks in advance.
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The solutoin is to use autorun instead of cabinstl, you can then write a custom script to handle the input required by the cab.
However this is above my head, and i couldn't get autorun to work. FFBOY knows how but i doubt you will get his help as he doesn't seem to check any threads other than his own rom threads, and if he does his responces are few and far between.
drkdeath5000 said:
I've tried everything to get sense working but im just having no luck ... copied the packages to the sys folder, flashes fine, boots fine but no sense and now theres no setting shortcut in the start menu ?
Could i ask for the exact procedure for installing sense please ? Im getting my packages from here but replacing the 2017 home with 2016. Could i perhaps be missing something ?
Thanks again
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Those are the packages i used and they work so it's not the packages, but i cheated and dumped a sense rom then modified it. I don't have time to try and work out how to do it properly unfortunatley.
leeston2379 said:
Those are the packages i used and they work so it's not the packages, but i cheated and dumped a sense rom then modified it. I don't have time to try and work out how to do it properly unfortunatley.
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Well atleast i know the packages are fine, i was starting to wonder if that was the problem . Theres some satisfaction in doing it yourself but like miro said i think its just too much for me, ill give it another go later in the week and if that fails ill just dump a sense rom like you did ... if there was just a tutorial on installing sense packages etc id be fine, with sense being so popular you'd think there to be loads of tuts.
I tried to keep the title as descriptive and short as possible, I hope it makes sense
I picked up the kitchen of nhathoa (a retired Topaz cook) hoping to get it customized to make it exactly the way I want but I'm running into some issues.
Long story short, I'm using Ervius Visual Kitchen (1.8.2) and I noticed that the EXT packages I added end up leaving two copies of the files, a copy under \windows\ and another one in the places I specified using app.dat using:
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Directory("\Program Files\bla\"):-File("bla.exe","\Windows\bla.exe")
Is there some way to get rid of the copy under \Windows\ ??
I know that I could simply leave everything there and discard the app.dat files but I would really prefer having everything organized properly (I have a bit of an OCD when it comes to organizing everything neatly ).
I'm pretty sure that this is a rather simple and noobish issue but I couldn't find anything relevant by searching and I took a look at some ext packages by various cooks and noticed the same behaviour.
MusikMonk said:
I tried to keep the title as descriptive and short as possible, I hope it makes sense
I picked up the kitchen of nhathoa (a retired Topaz cook) hoping to get it customized to make it exactly the way I want but I'm running into some issues.
Long story short, I'm using Ervius Visual Kitchen (1.8.2) and I noticed that the EXT packages I added end up leaving two copies of the files, a copy under \windows\ and another one in the places I specified using app.dat using:
Code:
Directory("\Program Files\bla\"):-File("bla.exe","\Windows\bla.exe")
Is there some way to get rid of the copy under \Windows\ ??
I know that I could simply leave everything there and discard the app.dat files but I would really prefer having everything organized properly (I have a bit of an OCD when it comes to organizing everything neatly ).
I'm pretty sure that this is a rather simple and noobish issue but I couldn't find anything relevant by searching and I took a look at some ext packages by various cooks and noticed the same behaviour.
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No, it's call Read-Only-Memory (ROM) and is the reason you can hard-reset your phone. Every file you cook into the ROM is in \windows. Two ways I know of to reduce the amount of files would be to zip them and have a mortscript unzip them to the proper location during customization or cook in a cab containing all of the files and have it run during customization.
That makes a lot of sense, I really feel ashamed that I didn't figure it out earlier
EXT packages seemed easier than bothering to read about customization but I guess it's time to start reading about this kind of stuff.
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Thanks for the quick reply!
Yup, files in rom are in rom forever, or until you flash again, lol. The trick is to just run bla.exe from \windows. I would say that 90% of the time, bla.exe runs just fine out of the windows directory (especially if it's the only file in the package). When people create cabs, they naturally install the app in \program files, but in general apps don't need to be in a specific folder. If there are other files present, usually an .exe will search within its own folder for those files. So, if you just cook everything straight into windows, you'll be good to go. It's easy enough to test: just move all the files from program files to windows after installing a cab, fix the shortcut in the start menu, and then try to run the app. It's always a good idea to do a soft reset and try again (found this out the hard way many times). The one thing you have to watch out for is settings files, like .dat files. These files frequently have to be archived (not read-only). Particularly with apps that use net 3.5, if there's a setting file that is read-only, the app won't boot and you'll get an error message. The fix is to name the file settings-1.txt (or whatever) and have an app.dat rename it to settings.txt (and keep it in \windows).
Also, remember to fix the shortcut path in the start menu, and examine the registry entries to see if there are any paths for files present-you may need to change them to point to \windows (this could also be true in settings files).
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No, it's call Read-Only-Memory (ROM) and is the reason you can hard-reset your phone. Every file you cook into the ROM is in \windows. Two ways I know of to reduce the amount of files would be to zip them and have a mortscript unzip them to the proper location during customization or cook in a cab containing all of the files and have it run during customization.
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This actually made me think a little bit. When you think about read only, I always thing can't delete or overwrite. Obviously I can run a cab and replace a file that is located in the \Windows directory, that leads me to believe there is a way to delete a file or maybe even replaced with an empty file of the same name.
You can over-write a rom file, but the rom file is still there. The file system just flags it somehow or another and tells the device to ignore it and instead use the new file.
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This actually made me think a little bit. When you think about read only, I always thing can't delete or overwrite. Obviously I can run a cab and replace a file that is located in the \Windows directory, that leads me to believe there is a way to delete a file or maybe even replaced with an empty file of the same name.
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The new file you copy over goes into the "user" partition of the file system and windows knows to use that file instead. Once you delete this newly copied file from \windows, the old one from the ROM will take its place back in the filesystem.
Farmer Ted said:
Yup, files in rom are in rom forever, or until you flash again, lol. The trick is to just run bla.exe from \windows. I would say that 90% of the time, bla.exe runs just fine out of the windows directory (especially if it's the only file in the package). When people create cabs, they naturally install the app in \program files, but in general apps don't need to be in a specific folder. If there are other files present, usually an .exe will search within its own folder for those files. So, if you just cook everything straight into windows, you'll be good to go. It's easy enough to test: just move all the files from program files to windows after installing a cab, fix the shortcut in the start menu, and then try to run the app. It's always a good idea to do a soft reset and try again (found this out the hard way many times). The one thing you have to watch out for is settings files, like .dat files. These files frequently have to be archived (not read-only). Particularly with apps that use net 3.5, if there's a setting file that is read-only, the app won't boot and you'll get an error message. The fix is to name the file settings-1.txt (or whatever) and have an app.dat rename it to settings.txt (and keep it in \windows).
Also, remember to fix the shortcut path in the start menu, and examine the registry entries to see if there are any paths for files present-you may need to change them to point to \windows (this could also be true in settings files).
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First of all, a small question about the underlined part, just to make sure that I got it right: it won't be exactly a rename just a copy with a different name, correct?
Some of the apps I use need a specific directory structure for the resources and files they use, so just dumping them in one big folder won't work.
Another possible issue that I think I'll run into is having two files sharing a generic name (let's say settings.xml) while each belongs to a different app. I didn't personally encounter such a situation just yet but my packages are still a work in progress and I did see a post or two about this while searching.
I was still hoping there would be a simple way to arrange the files in folders while keeping them under \windows\ but I can't find such a method either. Doesn't seem like I have other options than to decided on a firstboot customization method: Runcc, autorun, xda_uc or something that I haven't read about yet...
"Runcc" is currently used in the base kitchen so that gives it an edge right now.
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Remembered that I had another question, and it's probably not worth a new thread.
I was looking at how to manually create .lnk files and I noticed something that I didn't understand and couldn't find info about.
For example:
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21#"\Windows\MSDict.htm"
What exactly does the "21" refer to?? I tried changing it randomly to other values a couple of times and it didn't effect anything.
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The new file you copy over goes into the "user" partition of the file system and windows knows to use that file instead. Once you delete this newly copied file from \windows, the old one from the ROM will take its place back in the filesystem.
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Ok now that makes a lot of sense. I guess I'm just use to Android and being able to see that separate partition. Thanks for the explanation.
That sort of leaves me to another question. Can't someone develop a way to overwrite directly to the "system" partition? It would almost be like a root/superuser for WinMo.
Sent from my HTC Evo 4G!
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First of all, a small question about the underlined part, just to make sure that I got it right: it won't be exactly a rename just a copy with a different name, correct?
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Yup, that's correct. Another approach is to take all similar files that go into windows and stick them in a zip file that unzips to the windows directory. I do that in a few cases (power radio comes to mind; it has an ini file). What I do in most cases though is use a backup/restore mortscript. The backup copies all settings files (and similar things) on my device to my sd card. During customization, the restore copies them back. It's convenient for apps where I change the settings a lot and I don't want to have to constantly fuss with the packages.
Some of the apps I use need a specific directory structure for the resources and files they use, so just dumping them in one big folder won't work.
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What you do in that case is move the sub-folders into windows. In this case, I'll use a zip file to unzip those folders into windows. Using app.dat files to copy large numbers of files blows. It increases the rom file count as well as the storage used. A zip file is a single file, and usually it saves space.
Another possible issue that I think I'll run into is having two files sharing a generic name (let's say settings.xml) while each belongs to a different app. I didn't personally encounter such a situation just yet but my packages are still a work in progress and I did see a post or two about this while searching.
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In that case, you're screwed unless there's a registry key that lets you change the name. I've run into a few complications; tcpmp and OMarket both use a common.dll. My solution was to buy Core Player, lol.
I was still hoping there would be a simple way to arrange the files in folders while keeping them under \windows\ but I can't find such a method either. Doesn't seem like I have other options than to decided on a firstboot customization method: Runcc, autorun, xda_uc or something that I haven't read about yet...
"Runcc" is currently used in the base kitchen so that gives it an edge right now.
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Using cabs or zip files is the way to go if you want to copy large folders in one shot (with a mortscript; you can also un-rar rar files, but I don't know how. Yet, lol). Zips are easier to make and edit than cabs, but you need to have mortscript cooked in and know how to write the simple script (aka cut-and-paste).
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Remembered that I had another question, and it's probably not worth a new thread.
I was looking at how to manually create .lnk files and I noticed something that I didn't understand and couldn't find info about.
For example:
Code:
21#"\Windows\MSDict.htm"
What exactly does the "21" refer to?? I tried changing it randomly to other values a couple of times and it didn't effect anything.
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The 21 is the number of bytes after the #. It doesn't matter. I usually just change the first number to 1. It works fine. Counting bytes blows.
That was extremely helpful. Too bad these boards don't use a rep system
Farmer Ted said:
Yup, that's correct. Another approach is to take all similar files that go into windows and stick them in a zip file that unzips to the windows directory.
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Well, if I'm going to follow this method, and it seems like I am, I don't see why I would still have to limit myself to the \windows folder. I can just put everything the way I originally wanted to do. I only looked at arranging files under \windows when I found out that there's no way to get rid of the duplicates.
Farmer Ted said:
Using cabs or zip files is the way to go if you want to copy large folders in one shot (with a mortscript; you can also un-rar rar files, but I don't know how. Yet, lol). Zips are easier to make and edit than cabs, but you need to have mortscript cooked in and know how to write the simple script (aka cut-and-paste).
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I haven't tried writing mortscripts yet but I've seen enough to figure out the basic and notice how easy it is. I'm gonna check how usable is the WM version of 7zip, as long as it accepts arguments combining it with mortscript will be easy and perfect for me.
7z archives can get smaller in size than half of the zip archives for the same files. And cabs are too annoying to work with and keep updated later on.
Only issue remaining now is checking whether I should put the archived files under \windows or use the sdcard for customization. I'm leaning toward the first but I'll have to wait and see how much memory I would be sacrificing that way.
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The 21 is the number of bytes after the #. It doesn't matter. I usually just change the first number to 1. It works fine. Counting bytes blows.
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Ah! I thought about counting bytes/characters and noticed that it works sometimes. But I thought it was a coincidence after I experimented in changing the value and noticed that it wasn't always the right count in the .lnk files that I found.
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Nice, I was messing around with some packages to free up ram and storage and I seem to have ended up with a rather b0rked up xTask. And then there's still convincing Resco Explorer that the registry add-in IS in fact there.
Figuring out the causes should keep me happily busy for a while (and probably heavily pissed for another while afterwards).
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Just for the record, I ended up using xda_uc it's a lot easier than doing things manually. Although it would help if there was some kind of documentation available, took me a while to understand what .xda, xdai, xdas & .xdaz files are supposed to be.
hi by the way is it possible to convert ext packages of QVGA phones to one another?
Sorry for being dumb once again.
I know how to create an XML and convert reg files to PROVXML etc but :
I flashed my cooked rom and did snapshot with kheb made all my changes and got a difference .reg file.
I converted that to PROVXML cause i believe its the best way of doing it.
What I dont know is what to do with it and where to put it in order to flash it.
Ive put it under custom settings\files but iot needs to be named something specifically according to 0Kitchen . Also i have an xml file that has my exchange settings in that which i want to cook in as well but dont know how.
I do use XDA uc but id prefer to let it be done with runcc or something?
Please advise whats better and whats the difference between the differentx PROVXML file naming.
Thanx
I would preffer using reg instead Provxml because they take a lot of time for 1st boot....anyway you need to name them mxip_xxxx.provxml if im not wrong.
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I would preffer using reg instead Provxml because they take a lot of time for 1st boot....anyway you need to name them mxip_xxxx.provxml if im not wrong.
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Can i renam the exchange.xml to mxip_exchange.provxml as well. does a xml and provxml contain the same information/layout?
Uhmm...it seems that should work, give a look here http://ip208-100-42-21.static.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6995989.
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Can i renam the exchange.xml to mxip_exchange.provxml as well. does a xml and provxml contain the same information/layout?
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Uhmm...it seems that should work, give a look here http://ip208-100-42-21.static.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6995989.
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Leme just try quickly we do flash like 30 times a day in any case hey. Will revdert just now
Thanx for your help
There's various file names, mxip, mxipinit and mxipupdate. In my experience I've never needed to add anything to a .dsm file, as long as the extension is .provxml they execute ok.
What I do though, is put my post-boot provxml's into the very last folder that my kitchen picks up so it's named ZZZ_postboot_provxml or something similar and I also name the file to mxipupdate_zzzPostBoot.provxml but I'm not sure if this helps. I do this because:
If you use total commander and search for *.provxml files in your windows folder you might find that none of them have the original name you gave in your packages, but if you step through the files you find there, you can see the execution order.
Hope this helps a bit.
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There's various file names, mxip, mxipinit and mxipupdate. In my experience I've never needed to add anything to a .dsm file, as long as the extension is .provxml they execute ok.
What I do though, is put my post-boot provxml's into the very last folder that my kitchen picks up so it's named ZZZ_postboot_provxml or something similar and I also name the file to mxipupdate_zzzPostBoot.provxml but I'm not sure if this helps. I do this because:
If you use total commander and search for *.provxml files in your windows folder you might find that none of them have the original name you gave in your packages, but if you step through the files you find there, you can see the execution order.
Hope this helps a bit.
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ok so postboot is also one of the names like mxipinit and mxipupdate. Why are there so many different ones and which ones are executed in what order?
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ok so postboot is also one of the names like mxipinit and mxipupdate. Why are there so many different ones and which ones are executed in what order?
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I think the order is all to do with the way the kitchen picks them up. e.g. I use OSKitchen and it seems SYS, then OEM, then EXT packages are picked up, alphabetically-so my provxml's get the same order, which is why I put them in a package of their own with the ZZZ_postboot name. It just makes it the last one to be picked up of the EXT packages-ensuring everything is in place when the script runs
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I think the order is all to do with the way the kitchen picks them up. e.g. I use OSKitchen and it seems SYS, then OEM, then EXT packages are picked up, alphabetically-so my provxml's get the same order, which is why I put them in a package of their own with the ZZZ_postboot name. It just makes it the last one to be picked up of the EXT packages-ensuring everything is in place when the script runs
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Ok lemme try
Im trying to change my timezone from dublin -8 to gmt +2. n start kheb take snapshot make the change get i difference .reg file. convert it to xml and the paste it in files folder of lastflash folder?? ill try and see what happens