I'm definitely 100% getting this phone when it comes out. Perfect timing too, as I get my upgrade in May.
Will you guys be buying this phone?
Best believe I will be getting this! And my upgrade isnt gonna be till oct but I am just gonna buy it or get it for the bday
i voted "i want to but dont have sprint". I have verizon but would definately switch for sprints fairer plans and this beast phone. but i dont think i have ANY sprint coverage in my area. I checked to see how many sprint stores i have in my area and in a 50 mile radius there were only 2!! all other carriers had over 10!! i also dont know anyone with sprint. could anyone tell me how i could get a complete view of how much coverage certain carriers do have in comparison?? i go to there sites but it just seems incomplete
I will be getting this phone for sure! This will be the best phone hands down.
I don't know if I will be getting it the first day out of the gate but I know that I will purchase it shortly after it has been release. I currently have the HTC Vogue and would love to have a larger screen and the flexibility of Android now.
I love how amped so many people are over this phone. I cant wait til release day
I'm going to be all over this the day it comes out! or soon there after. I can't wait to ditch my TP. I'll miss winmo but I won't miss the 2.8" screen or the ancient 528mz processor.
this will without question be replacing my creaky old kaiser with ATT. im looking forward to everything about it and sprints plan pricing.
Will sure get a Supersonic or Desire, haven't fully decided yet!
I think, I'll be taking that day off
After 6 years of being a Cingular/AT&T customer, I am switching to Sprint just for this phone.
if/when there is a gsm version i will get it for sure
but for now i wait...
I've been with AT&T for eight years, and I'm planning on switching to Sprint when this phone comes out. Currently I have a Nokia N97. No Comment........
Been with sprint for...awhile...and I'm sitting on my upgrade for this. I need to get rid of this horrid TP (RAPH800).
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Well for me am on sprint and my 2 year contract ends on December... Hoping that by then i will get the diamond2 ...finally... i love this phone but am getting tired of the same phone you know.. i will still have it i wont sell it this was my first phone love it haha
what phone are you planning on getting?
or keeping the beutiful slim touch vogue =D
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Well for me am on sprint and my 2 year contract ends on December... Hoping that by then i will get the diamond2 ...finally... i love this phone but am getting tired of the same phone you know.. i will still have it i wont sell it this was my first phone love it haha
what phone are you planning on getting?
or keeping the beutiful slim touch vogue =D
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It all depends on Verizon's Android offerings. I'm up for a new phone in October and I know my wife is ready for a new phone, as am I, so it all depends.
My hardware renewal is coming up at the end of November, and I've been informed by an inside source that Telus is getting the Hero. So I'll be getting that, unless they also get the Samsung i7500.
I was a late adopter of the Vogue. Grabbed it from Verizon as it was being discontinued in order to have a smartphone that didn't require a data plan. I have more than 1.5 years until I'm up for renewal.
I have had the Vogue for 2 years now, and my contract was up a few weeks ago... I am just waiting for either the Hero to be at Sprint or AT&T to have an Android phone...
Biding my time...
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I have had the Vogue for 2 years now, and my contract was up a few weeks ago... I am just waiting for either the Hero to be at Sprint or AT&T to have an Android phone...
Biding my time...
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You won't have long for either if the leaks are to be believed.
I was an early adopter for the Vogue on Alltel. Bought the first one in our area. I've been up for an upgrade, but since we're a part of Verizon, I'm waiting to see what they have in Android offerings this winter. Supposedly, Motorola is releasing one on Verizon.
hero
I wanted the touch pro2.
UNTIL,
I started using the hero OS on my vogue!
OMG! HERO ALL THE WAY! Thank you sprint!
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I wanted the touch pro2.
UNTIL,
I started using the hero OS on my vogue!
OMG! HERO ALL THE WAY! Thank you sprint!
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Same here, atx. Unfortunately I'm not on Sprint but hopefully with HTC pushing more and more Android phones one is bound to hit Verizon this year.
I'm getting a Sprint TP2, TD2, or TG01, which ever is best and is announced before the end of the year. Or switching to Verizon and getting the Omnia II (but their prices suck so much compared to Sprint's).
I'm getting the HTC Hero on Sprint (if it's not too slow)
Am kinda sure that the hero and the touchpro2 are coming out this year.. which is good for the people that like them :B
I want the diamond2 so bad.. but not even 1 leak picture that can give me hope
Reading some of the posts about the Hero being slow and laggy with the Touchflo interface, I'm hesitant to get one. My contract is up in December with Sprint. I'm pretty sure that any Sprint Android phone will not work with my SERO plan and don't think I want to get the everything plan. I don't come close to my 500 minutes I currently have, just lots of text and data, so I don't want to pay the $100 a month or the overpriced lesser plans.
Might just stick with my vogue running android for a while as long as it keeps getting updates.
Speaking of the Sprint hero, I may be switching from Verizon to Sprint because of the huge difference in price would allow me to have data access on my phone. Having Android on my Vogue has really made me want the Hero or another Android phone, but the Pre seems really appealing too.
I'm only a year into my contract but I'm eligible for a primary phone upgrade under my family plan. When the prices dropped on current verizon smartphones I almost pulled the trigger on a touch pro but with the Omnia II and htc touch pro 2 coming out soon I might wait. The Omnia II has the specs I'm looking for and would be a nice upgrade from my touch. I wonder how much the omnia II (or touch 2) would cost on verizon. How much did the omnia I cost when it first came out?
I love my Vogue... I'd be content on it forever most likely. But I do yearn for something fancy like Android, so I may get the Hero
As for it being laggy, I bet software tweaks will fix that. Hopefully you can disable the Touchflo interface, I never liked those showy themes anyways.
I'm hoping for the Motorola Calgary on Verizon before the end of the year, but I'm not 100% sold on it. Need more specs, info about the build. I worry about how horribly Verizon will mangle Android, but then I know someone will unlock it at some point and I'll be able to put whatever I want on there.
This thread is in hopes that everyone who signs could speak themselves to sprint. If enough signatures are put on here i will forward this thread to sprint's marketing team. The question poses out there, who would actually go to sprint and pay a figure of $349.99 with a new contract for a sprint hd2?
i'd buy for 400-450 + a 1-2yr agreement. as long as they dont cripple it or drastically change its appearance.
i want it right now, cash in the hand.
i see this phone lasting me at least 2yrs before it becomes obsolete
I would definetely buy one from Sprint!
Hell yes! My contract is up with AT&T and Im ready to change to either Sprint or Tmobile whoever gets the HD2.
Absolutely!
I would definitely enjoy it if Sprint would consider taking on the HD2 for it's gracious clients without making any crazy changes to it. I just got the TP2 and would have to get rid of it to make room for the HD2. Let's make it happen Sprint, please?!?!
Me too, I would gladly leave Verizon for Sprint if they get the HD2. Don't cripple it though!
I don't think I would leave ATT for Sprint. CDMA is just too crippled. I love switching to the newest phones all the time, and that usually entails Euro GSM phones
I woulda definitely got it, but most likely would leave to USMC by time phone is released.
I am holding off buying a TP2 til at least January at which time I hope the HD2 would be available on Sprint. If not, I would probably get a TP2 even though I would prefer the HD2. If Sprint does get the HD2 I would wait even longer but if becomes evident that Sprint will NOT offer the HD2, I'll get a TP2.
HD2
I'm definatly in i really like the size of the iphone over my Diamond but i don't want to leave Sprint/Nextel after some 15 years...
'Definitely would purchase, HOWEVER, I would really, really, REALLY appreciate it if Sprint were to continue the Worldphone functionality of the Touch Pro2, but include all 3G frequencies. A keyboard would be great, too (a la Touch Pro2), as well as a trackball (a la Hero). 'Just my two cents, but Sprint and HTC would have some VERY F*&%IN' happy customers. Then, maybe I'd consider makin' the switch.
Immediately
i would immediately purchase this phone if it came to sprint in fact ive been waiting for a very very long time and now when it came down to the final stretch i was very disappointed to see t-mobile take the cake ..... BRING THIS PHONE TO SPRINT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I guess no chance of sprint releasing an HD2 ehh? Love that giant screen and being wm6.5 hopefully no "iconic phone" restrictions.
really funny 2 years later I just retired my HD2! It was modded with CM7 but it still worked like a charm!
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really funny 2 years later I just retired my HD2! It was modded with CM7 but it still worked like a charm!
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'Retired', as in? Do you mean you sold it, or do you want to sell it?
Send me a PM.
With all the excitement over this device who here is going to jump **** and move to the HTC EVO? I love my little Hero but this phone is awesome! I will probably just give the hero to my lady, but I'm worried development will halt after this is released. This has been a great learning device as we got it rooted to quickly and customization came shortly there after. Id like to here your opinions on the Hero and EVO. Exciting times for Sprint users
Day 1 purchase.
Ceger
It's been fun... but good bye Hero, hello Evo!
I'm getting the Evo when it comes out!
Post root purchase.
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Post root purchase.
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My upgrade is October so hopefully it will be by then.
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My upgrade is October so hopefully it will be by then.
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Mine's in November, but I might bight the bullet to avoid a root-patch
Im not a fan of the size, So I will hold out for something better.
If the N1 drops on Sprint before the EVO even has a date and/or price then I will pick it up (the Nexus). If the EVO has a date and price when then happens, well, then it will depend.
I love all the cool phones dropping every 6 months anymore, but wow this is getting expensive!
If it were rooted and had real hardkeys, I'd be at Best Buy at 10am on October 9th to buy one & celebrate my 12-month anniversary. To be honest, I don't really like either the Nexus One or the Evo. The hypothetical phone I really want is an "Incredible" that's rooted and can take a minimally-tweaked N1 ROM almost straight from git and flash without drama. Then I could have my hardkeys, trackball, 850x480 display, enjoy SenseUI for now, but freely ditch it for NexusLand the moment I feel like it's getting in the way and limiting my upgrade options.
4G would be nice, but as it stands I barely have usable data service inside my house (if I disable 'hybrid' and try to force EV-DO, it flat-out doesn't work about 20% of the time, and is unreliable another 20-30%). Assuming WiMax propagation & signals are on par with Sprint's CDMA2000 service, I have every reason to suspect that my neighborhood will be as "urban fringe" for 4G as it is for EV-DO.
(edit)Actually, I take that back. I think part of my problem is the fact that my house shares a Sprint tower with a major regional mall 2 blocks away. Late at night, and in the middle of the afternoon on most weekdays, EV-DO works fairly well. But 4-9pm, and weekends... (((shudder))).
I plan to buy the EVO the day it hits the market. My Hero isn't eligible for the upgrade until December, but my wife and daughter are due April 1. I plan to have one of them delay upgrading so I can use their upgrade to get the EVO, then give them my Hero.
This is one nice benefit of having a plan with 5 phones. I usually have a phone ready for upgrade every 4 months or so.
Not me, I think it sucks.
Ohhh, I almost kept a straight face on that!
I live in Austin, which is crawling with WIMAX. I have been wanting a higher res vid cam. I kept playing with the HD demo here at the GDGT party a week ago (which has a similar sized screen). I've been seriously eyeing the Sprint Overdrive myfi hotspot. HDMI output??? Hello!!
There are just too many things that this phone has that I want. I am not rich but will be getting it even if I have to work nights to save up for it!
I'll be dropping it on my employee line ASAP. Hopefully they won't restrict it on us.
i wont give a shizz if my hero its able to upgrade or anything ill get it no matter what
Will you move to the EVO sub-forum with questions regarding a phone that's not labeled in this sub-forum when it is released?? (which was created 12 hours ago, and before this post?)
lol.. just playing
Since no large screen keyboard devices are coming ill most likely grab the evo.
What i really wanna know is if the great dev support we got for our heroes will be making the move to the EVO?
Flipz? Darch? Toast? etc?
I know Gbhil mentioned he will be switching between the Evo and the Hero due to size.
ill pass on it tbh...the thing is huge and i won't use half of the features. besides the fact i bet the price tag will be about $600+ without an upgrade fee applied.
im moving to the nexus.
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im moving to the nexus.
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Not being a ****, but have you done research yet?
You've seen the purple hue issues?
You've seen the hardware issues?(albeit 99% fixed)
Make sure you like this phone please... Try the **** out of it for your 7 days...
I just got my Hero less than 2 months ago, so I'll stick with it until upgrade time, by then they should have even more killer phones avail
I love my hd2, I just got it. But, I'm using it on ATT and currently am seeking to unlocking it. I'm thinking about switching to Nexus one because of it's ATT 3G and wont need to be unlocked. I have been without phone use for about 3 weeks. I want an easier to open battery door, but that's about it. I really don't want to have to mail my HD2 back and wait for a refund, then buy a N1 and have to wait.... I just really need help, should I switch or not? I barely ever make calls on my phones, I usually text and don't have Data but was planning on adding it on when I got the HD2. Will Edge Data speeds be really bad? I'm just so confused right now, I was hoping I could trade my HD2 for a N1 to make it quick and easy so if I didn't like it I could switch back but NOBODY with a N1 wants a HD2. It's stressing me out because I need a phone to use ASAP, but don't want to make the wrong decision and be stuck with a phone I hate for possibly years since I'm not signing another contract with ATT, but don't plan on switching to another carrier.
the N1 has ATT 3G bands
EDIT: wow, I guess it does. How the hell did I miss that they released an AT&T/Rogers version of the N1??
The difference in EDGE vs 3G is quite substantial. Nowadays I would consider EDGE data connectivity speeds almost useless. So for you, I would recommend a native 3G device over an unlocked device that only connects via EDGE. ( Not that I am recommending the N1 over the Hd2 )
I understand the inconvenience you state about having to return your phone online and to be without a phone in the meantime. Have you considered selling your HD2 locally via Craigslist? Then use the $$ towards the Nexus!
Or better yet, since you're out-of-contract you should just keep the HD2, since you love it so much anyways, and switch to a no Contract Tmo plan with Data and save some $$ !
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I love my hd2, I just got it. But, I'm using it on ATT and currently am seeking to unlocking it. I'm thinking about switching to Nexus one because of it's ATT 3G and wont need to be unlocked. I have been without phone use for about 3 weeks. I want an easier to open battery door, but that's about it. I really don't want to have to mail my HD2 back and wait for a refund, then buy a N1 and have to wait.... I just really need help, should I switch or not? I barely ever make calls on my phones, I usually text and don't have Data but was planning on adding it on when I got the HD2. Will Edge Data speeds be really bad? I'm just so confused right now, I was hoping I could trade my HD2 for a N1 to make it quick and easy so if I didn't like it I could switch back but NOBODY with a N1 wants a HD2. It's stressing me out because I need a phone to use ASAP, but don't want to make the wrong decision and be stuck with a phone I hate for possibly years since I'm not signing another contract with ATT, but don't plan on switching to another carrier.
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So you have me a bit confused. Do you have a T-mobile HTC HD2? & why would keeping this bind you into a contract with AT&T?
If you are using AT&T and worried about data speeds I'd say to get a phone that works with AT&T 3G, You do know that AT&T will be releasing iPhone 4 this month? ( I know I am probably going to get bashed for this) This phone will be the biggest bang for your buck if your looking into touch screen, 3G speeds, & smartphones. I'd say return your HD2 wait for your refund and buy a simple phone til the iPhone 4 comes out.
But that is just me. I am just fine with my HD2 but I am on T-mobile so I get 3G speeds already.
Edit: okay I just reread your post so please disregaurd my above statement, I thought you were signing another contract with AT&T
But regaurding your N1 if you are big on data speeds and the N1 can both support both 3G networks for AT&T & T-Mobile then i'd almost say its worth it and do what I said above and get a cheap phone off of like craigslist to hold you down til then.
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So you have me a bit confused. Do you have a T-mobile HTC HD2? & why would keeping this bind you into a contract with AT&T?
If you are using AT&T and worried about data speeds I'd say to get a phone that works with AT&T 3G, You do know that AT&T will be releasing iPhone 4 this month? ( I know I am probably going to get bashed for this) This phone will be the biggest bang for your buck if your looking into touch screen, 3G speeds, & smartphones. I'd say return your HD2 wait for your refund and buy a simple phone til the iPhone 4 comes out.
But that is just me. I am just fine with my HD2 but I am on T-mobile so I get 3G speeds already.
Edit: okay I just reread your post so please disregaurd my above statement, I thought you were signing another contract with AT&T
But regaurding your N1 if you are big on data speeds and the N1 can both support both 3G networks for AT&T & T-Mobile then i'd almost say its worth it and do what I said above and get a cheap phone off of like craigslist to hold you down til then.
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AT&T's data sucks... Everyone that I know using an Iphone says the data, interenet, etc is slow as hell. Also At&t just announced they are doing away with their unlimited data plan... How nice of them...
If your not getting 3g speeds HD2 its pretty useless.
Yea, I heard about att's new "courtesy" for data. I'd like to switch to T-Mobile but my contract doesn't end till sometime around April of 2011. Craigslist isn't an option because I'd need to get the same ammount I paid for it and I'm not sure if I can take it back anymore. I'm never using eBay again either.... TOO MANY FEES, I'd end up losing $50 if I got $400 for it. Nobody on here is looking for an HD2 either.... I love the phone but if Edge is as bad as i'm hearing I don't think I can go through with this.
Do yourself a favor and throw that hunk of crap in the garbage and get the new iphone on the 24th, i have had 4 HD2's and all were huge piles of ****, you cant even text message on the thing unless you type one letter per 20seconds LOL i actually threw my last one at the wall and smashed it cause it is just a **** phone with good parts that HTC obviously couldnt sput together to make it run smooth, Even the scrolling is choppy as ****, anyways sorry im so angry but these phones are ****!!!! Im even gonna switch to ATT if i have to from tmobile on the 24th to get the iphone 4 if i have to, but hopefully verizon will have it as well. GL buddy
Thanks... Their was an offical statement made by Apple that their would be no CDMA iPhone anytime soon.
who knows with apple, they might throw out a bone, it would be sick if they offered it through Tmobile.
yeah i'm trying to sell my HD2 too.
might have to resort to ebay...
*sigh*
I've heard you can get very fast edge speeds with at&t... around 700-800kbps. Theres a thread about it somewhere in the original Leo General section.... thats as fast as I'm getting with T-Mobile 3G. I'd prefer the HD2 over a N1. I would definitely not go with the iphone. But thats just me. I prefer WinMo. I'm not a fan of locked down OS's like apples. I like the versatility and functionality of winmo. My HD2 has been one of the most stable phones I've owned.... and what other phone can you play any playstation game at full speed?
ATT has the best 3G for a GSM carrier, I live in South Florida so I suppose if your correct about fast EDGE speeds than I may take a second look about that. I just need to unlock it first...
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who knows with apple, they might throw out a bone, it would be sick if they offered it through Tmobile.
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Haven't you heard? It's called 'Jailbreaking and Unlocking.'
yup i know but they might be able to stop that with the new Iphone but who knows, if there is a jailbreak and unlock i will just cancel ATT after i get it and switch back to Tmobile and keep the Iphone. I have a way of not having to pay the cancel fee so its all good.
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ATT has the best 3G for a GSM carrier, I live in South Florida so I suppose if your correct about fast EDGE speeds than I may take a second look about that. I just need to unlock it first...
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It all depends on the coverage of your wireless carrier.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enhanced_Data_Rates_for_GSM_Evolution
I meant in my area, ATT is fastest.
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Do yourself a favor and throw that hunk of crap in the garbage and get the new iphone on the 24th, i have had 4 HD2's and all were huge piles of ****, you cant even text message on the thing unless you type one letter per 20seconds LOL i actually threw my last one at the wall and smashed it cause it is just a **** phone with good parts that HTC obviously couldnt sput together to make it run smooth, Even the scrolling is choppy as ****, anyways sorry im so angry but these phones are ****!!!! Im even gonna switch to ATT if i have to from tmobile on the 24th to get the iphone 4 if i have to, but hopefully verizon will have it as well. GL buddy
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Im with you on this starkall. Im not going to get an iPhone but really cannot stand this damn HD2 anymore. Coming from a G1 which has flawless SMS and MMS and going to this where you have to repeat stupid steps just to type a message is killing me...I love the display, like winmo, but just cant live with this sms and cracking phone calls.
According to recent posts in the LEO non-tmo section HTC doesnt feel like its their problem. So probably no fix for it unless its replaced completely or Win 7 is ported soon.
I have an HTC incredible for my work phone and everytime i pick that back up for emailing, sms or just straight web browsing im more disappointed with the HD2..Im not one of those " F^#K WinMo, android rules" people. I actually haven't used the winmo os since back on my TMO dash. I really like it and see huge potential with some of these devs...But basic sms..come on meow.
yeah Ima pick up a nexus one not an iPhone.
I'm using an HD2 on AT&T right now. EDGE isn't bad on it; it's definitely manageable for most websites. Only downside is that YouTube is pretty much a no go.
So guys I need some help I was part of the ppl who called verizon and got them to give me a new phone. I went for the DINC2 and like the phone, my problem is I got the phone and really like it. Don't get me wrong I loved my fascinate and got really excited to see this GB leak, but I think I am going to stick with the DINC2. Well today I ran into another problem, I called the vzw rep again and told him i was having bad service with the new phone and he offered me a new DINC2 or a DX2, or a chance to upgrade early with this I would sign a new 2yr contract and pay $299 for a charge. What would you guys do? FYI the rep is calling me back soon and Idk what i am going to do. (kinda thinking I might want another fascinate)
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Jake
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You won't be hearing back from him again. Let's just say he's somewhere "down under" with a new pair of concrete shoes. Glad to help.
-The Don
not sure how much that help, but thanks anyway. lol
Jake
Semper Primus
Why don't you ask the rest of your "people"? Besides, if you don't like what you get can't you just call vzw up and get another new phone?
Sent from my cm7 fascinate, bro.
I also got the dinc2. I love it so far. I would stick with it. The antenna is in the battery cover. Try a case with it. That helped my signal a bit. If you look at how you hold it, you can see the signal move. HTC has promised gingerbread by end of 2nd quarter, and from what I hear, they keep there promises. I'm sticking with mine. Root for it is around the corner. Just my opinion.
Bob
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Droid x2 is dual core. Not sure about locked boot loader though as motorola is a nazi company...
Inc2 is single core as inc with more ram and 4" screen.
Charge is single core, but you will get grandfathered into a unlimited data package rather than the tiered packages coming later this month.
Rangers lead the way... (i am not a ranger
Not sure what was meant by my "people" but getting them to give up another phone is pretty hard to do. I just want a phone that does what is promised. I think I am going to stick with the DINC2 for now, got the rep to leave the early upgrade on my acct til I can make up my mind.
Bob-o, you are right this is a great phone and I know that they are going to come out with some great dual core 4g phones so I would like to save the upgrade for one of those. I really hope root and Gb really is right around the cornor.
Racer, Do you know anything about the tiered packages? cuz I am on a unlimited data plan now, but was wondering if they would make it apply to just 4g. I was trying to get the rep to hint to something and he made it seem like as long as I didn't change my plan I would still be good when I do upgrade to 4g. (on a side note I am no longer an active Ranger it has been like 6yrs)
Tiered data plans are coming. The data used by smart phones has gone up so high lately that vzw, t mob, att all offer some form of tiered data plan to reduce data usage...
Vzw is scheduled to offer it this summer.
Ranger, I hear once a ranger always a ranger. I'm just an artillery man. I've been out for a few years myself.
If you get 4g now, you'll be grandfathered into an unlimited plan... That's why there is such a large exodus to switch to the 4g.
Other than that, I would probably either pick... Not sure... I'd take a charge if they offered it to me though.
Racer
true once a ranger always a ranger.....I have let myself go a little bit, but I take the skills I have learned with me forever.
The word on the street is that thay are going to start charging July 7th, but 4g is still so new. I don't want to get an early upgrade and renew my contract for two years with phones like the bionx and sg2 coming this summer.
Same... I'm just going to bite the bullet too... They want me to upgrade and renew my contract at the least and I'm not sure if that's what I need when the phone isn't a true hardware spec upgrade...
Same with me on letting go. I probably work harder today, but I am certain I would fail APFT... hahaha
I understand that......when I was in we had to score a 290 on it. And we ran 10 miles every 3rd monday. I tried to run a mile last week and it was a 9.5 min mile and I was dying.
As for my phone I will give the dinc2 a good run.
Semper Primus