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GPRS issue

Let me explaing what I am expiriencing.
Every time that I run Explorer, Messaging my GPRS connection automaticaly connects to internet.fido.ca. Now, I remember that on my XDA2 when I was making a call GPRS was suspended and as soon as phone call is finished - resumed. JAM just dropes connection after phone call, and it's necessary to establish it manually again or run Explorer or messaging. Anyone with similar issues? I've tried clead shipped ROM and 1.06 - same result

i have a smilar problem.... my phone can't hold the gprs connection for long say every 2-5 minuts the signal bar will go dots ..... searching for network.. i thought it could be from my provider so i switched to another one but still the same problem.... i tried my sim with a nokia phone and works without any problems!!!!
if someone could help it would be great

PapaDocta said:
i have a smilar problem.... my phone can't hold the gprs connection for long say every 2-5 minuts the signal bar will go dots ..... searching for network.. i thought it could be from my provider so i switched to another one but still the same problem.... i tried my sim with a nokia phone and works without any problems!!!!
if someone could help it would be great
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I think my problem is a bit different. My GSM signal is strong, 5 bars, but GPRS just refuses to resume after call is placed

Just noticed that in different location this feature works fine. I guess, GPRS signal is not very strong in my area

No data during a call?

Have upgraded to stock 1.66 WWE via HSPL (downloaded from HTC UK). Noticed today that when I'm on a call I can't seem to connect to network data (e.g. Opera, weather update). Bluetooth/WiFi appear unaffected. Also, network data works fine when call ended.
This isn't normal is it? Any ideas anyone?
ROM 1.66.405.2.(76641) WWE
Radio 2.06.51.07
Originally O2 UK / 1.48
Mark W.

I think that is normal, mine has always been like that.
edit - just had a quick google, apparantly this is only the case when you are not in a 3G area - if you have a 3G signal then you can do both at the same time.

Exactly. It is 100% normal.

As above - totally normal.
The GPRS connection can only be used for 1 thing at a time, so if you're making a call then you can't use the connection for anything that requires a data connection, unless you have an alternate connection available, such as 3G.

What a dope...
Can't beleive I've had a mobile for all these years without knowing that. Thanks all.
Mark W.

mswebb said:
Can't beleive I've had a mobile for all these years without knowing that. Thanks all.
Mark W.
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e.g.Thats the reason why your "my Phone" sync - if used- is failing everytime you are in a call and its scheduled to sync at the same time during your call....

peacebank said:
this is only the case when you are not in a 3G area - if you have a 3G signal then you can do both at the same time.
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Oh, that is exactly the other side of my earlier question, that you will fail to receive calls if you are engaged in a GPRS data connection.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=610896

1.66 question.

Hi everyone.
Since upgrading to 1.66, I have noticed something rather annoying and hope someone can provide a solution to fixing it.
When I was on 1.48, the H icon at the top of the screen would always be there. I was effectively connected to the internet all the time, and was able to leave MSN messenger etc open and I'd always be online.
When I upgraded to 1.66, the icon at the top of the screen is always 3G. It only changes to H when I'm actually using the internet. If I open the browser and check out a website, the 3G changes to H and the website begins to load. It changes back to 3G when any internet connectivity is idle.
I can only access the internet when H is displayed, but I want it connected permanently like it was on 1.48.
It's like the phone is disconnecting from the internet when I'm not using the browser. It's not very useful when I need to keep MSN messenger open all day.
Thanks.

It's not disconnected when it says 3G. It simply switches to the slower mode when nothing is being transferred to save resources. As soon as something actually needs to be transferred it goes to H again to get the fastest available speed.

kilrah said:
It's not disconnected when it says 3G. It simply switches to the slower mode when nothing is being transferred to save resources. As soon as something actually needs to be transferred it goes to H again to get the fastest available speed.
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Ah, okay. I can't seem to visit any websites when 3G is displayed though. Perhaps that could be to do with my operator settings or something?

i have had the same problem since installing the sms patches.... i have since hard reset to remove the patch... and testing it now... it is very anoying because it keeps my msn disconnected...

I'm using Dutty's 1.5 (it's a great ROM!) with a 2.07 radio and I've got the same problem..
When it says 3G, nothing seems to come through.. when it changes to H, the webpage starts loading...
Does anyone have a fix to make it not switch back and forth between H and 3G? It gets frustrating because it often takes 1 or 2 seconds to switch between the modes....

tsttse said:
i have had the same problem since installing the sms patches.... i have since hard reset to remove the patch... and testing it now... it is very anoying because it keeps my msn disconnected...
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Let us know how to you get on because I need this fixed.

My MSN stays connected fine in 3G. Push email works perfect too.

The icons only show the available type of signal.
They don't mean you are connected.
When you do connect by opening an app that uses the appropriate signal then the icon changes to show the signal that you are connected with.
If H is not available in a particular area then it will stay on 3G and if that's not available then G with show.

Hey guys. I'm on my 4th HD2 handset now since upgrading my vodafone contract one month ago. First two handsets had similar probs as allot of you have had, i.e sms not working, alarm not working etc etc. I upgraded to the 1.66 rom when i got my 3rd handset from phones4u. I then started getting the same issues as you just described- internet only profficiently working when H coverage is active. When it goes below that then nothing happens at all. I returned the handset today and got a new one. This one already had the 1.66 Rom update installed and sure enough, had the same internet issues. I started fiddling with settings and changed the band setting from 'auto' to 'WCDMA'. ( just trial and error, so senior members please chime in if i have given bad advise!) This seems to keep the network coverage constantly in H and since changing it several hours ago i have not had any issues.
Start> Settings>Wireless controls>Phone>Band> Change Auto to WCDMA
Give it a go!

Tristan29 said:
I started fiddling with settings and changed the band setting from 'auto' to 'WCDMA'. ( just trial and error, so senior members please chime in if i have given bad advise!) This seems to keep the network coverage constantly in H and since changing it several hours ago i have not had any issues.
Start> Settings>Wireless controls>Phone>Band> Change Auto to WCDMA
Give it a go!
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Wouldnt that make the phone stick to the 3G/HSDPA/WCDMA band only and cause the phone to have no reception around certain areas that still operate on 2G GSM?

Exact.
I rather tend to do the opposite for that reason if I have trouble (sometimes you're in areas where 3G reception is low and it keeps switching between 3G and EDGE all the time), I'll force EDGE only. It's slower, but at least the connection is constant.

When at work mine fights bewteen 3g and h and both are like 1 bar signals, i'd rather disable both when at work as G is full signal.
Is there a way?

frustrated with hd2 losing signal

I have trying to use the HD2 over the last 3 days and getting real problems with intermittent signal loss.
I know i have low signal from the mobile operator in some parts of my home but that has never been a problem with other HTC phones i used before. If the signal was too weak it would just drop out but come back if i moved a bit.
With the HD2 once the signal indicator turns red it stays that way even if i move to a strong signal area.
The weird thing is sometimes i would leave the phone sitting in one place with four bars and then minutes later it would show up with no signal and i can't receive calls.
Even stranger is that in all these cases where there is no apparent signal, all i need to do is press the send button to try making a call and the signal "magically" re-appears and all is fine. I've tried at least four differnt radios as well as the energy ROM ... no change.
Any ideas ? this is reaallly frustrating!!!!!!

do the problems resemble what I experienced here?:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6808114#post6808114

ieh said:
I have trying to use the HD2 over the last 3 days and getting real problems with intermittent signal loss.
I know i have low signal from the mobile operator in some parts of my home but that has never been a problem with other HTC phones i used before. If the signal was too weak it would just drop out but come back if i moved a bit.
With the HD2 once the signal indicator turns red it stays that way even if i move to a strong signal area.
The weird thing is sometimes i would leave the phone sitting in one place with four bars and then minutes later it would show up with no signal and i can't receive calls.
Even stranger is that in all these cases where there is no apparent signal, all i need to do is press the send button to try making a call and the signal "magically" re-appears and all is fine. I've tried at least four differnt radios as well as the energy ROM ... no change.
Any ideas ? this is reaallly frustrating!!!!!!
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reijkelhof said:
do the problems resemble what I experienced here?:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6808114#post6808114
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change radio ROM, well experiment with several of them by trial and error (read the sticky/tutorial first).
OR
buy an indoor signal booster.

Well, regardless of the radio version ive had really odd intermitant service.
the best way ive found to help this is turn off 3G / HSDPA
Doing this forces the device to remain on GPRS, it means the battery lasts a hell of a lot longer and it doent drop the connection every time the device feels like trying to connect with HSDPA or drops it for no apparent reason.

reijkelhof said:
do the problems resemble what I experienced here?:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6808114#post6808114
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it seem that you were losing data connection .... i'm a lot worse off ... i lose data AND voice .. all connectivity ... so i don't receive calls
as i said the weird thing is as soon as press send to initiate a call,cthe signal bars come back and everything works fine!!

as i said, stop 3G from working, when switching between the two due to what ever reason the HD2 decides to drop it will kill your connection, voice and all until it switches back. there is an issue with 3G and im wondering if its everyone or just folk using TMOUS radio and thus recieving the extra RAM

To disable 3G/HSDPA to test,
Open Comm Manager and click on Phone (not the on/off switch) to go to phone options. Scroll to bottom and select BAND. Switch network type from Auto to GSM.
3G/HSDPA is only needed for internet surfing. Time, weather, stock updates and email downloads don't really benefit from it. So turning it off this way will make these type data connections go through the EDGE network which is plenty fast enough for it. When you need to surf the net, go back and switch it to Auto and you will get 3G or faster speeds for that.

Phantoms said:
To disable 3G/HSDPA to test,
Open Comm Manager and click on Phone (not the on/off switch) to go to phone options. Scroll to bottom and select BAND. Switch network type from Auto to GSM.
3G/HSDPA is only needed for internet surfing. Time, weather, stock updates and email downloads don't really benefit from it. So turning it off this way will make these type data connections go through the EDGE network which is plenty fast enough for it. When you need to surf the net, go back and switch it to Auto and you will get 3G or faster speeds for that.
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I disagree. My emails have timed out using edge.

same prob here
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I disagree. My emails have timed out using edge.
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hello im having the same problem..no voice or data i push my send button an then i get signal,my wife has a hd7 and my son has a hd2 they will have 3 to 4 bars and i show no signal.push talk and i get 1 to 2 bars.
have you found a fix?

You could always try a signal booster on eBay for like 5...
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App

If its just 3G then its probable just T-Mobile or then again a Hardware/Firmware issue
try a different ROM, Radio

I have this same issue I running a T-Mobile USA (using radio 2.12 but then again it was doing it on 2.15 as well) and it just drops all connectivity and says no service I have to search the network again.
My phone is unlocked I don't know if that might have anything to do with it as well

I've had this problem on my HD2 since i got it.
Edge (E), works but slow as all get out. 2-4s ping times or time outs. 3G (and when i say 3G i mean when it says 3G in the status bar) doesn't work at all. HSDPA (H) works great, WHEN it stays that way, which it doesn't.
It can switch between 3G to H every 10 seconds.
And i'm using it for tethering primarily, which makes working painful. Lose your VPN and SSH sessions constantly. Some days it's ok. But most, horrible. btw, i'm in the Denver area.
I've tried stock roms and custom roms (primarily Energy). All radios. Nothing fixes it!
This is the only thing I don't like about my HD2 and/or t-mobile. And it's a whopper. I'm almost ready to get another phone or carrier, depending on what's causing this.
-Tony

ncohafmuta said:
I've had this problem on my HD2 since i got it.
Edge (E), works but slow as all get out. 2-4s ping times or time outs. 3G (and when i say 3G i mean when it says 3G in the status bar) doesn't work at all. HSDPA (H) works great, WHEN it stays that way, which it doesn't.
It can switch between 3G to H every 10 seconds.
And i'm using it for tethering primarily, which makes working painful. Lose your VPN and SSH sessions constantly. Some days it's ok. But most, horrible. btw, i'm in the Denver area.
I've tried stock roms and custom roms (primarily Energy). All radios. Nothing fixes it!
This is the only thing I don't like about my HD2 and/or t-mobile. And it's a whopper. I'm almost ready to get another phone or carrier, depending on what's causing this.
-Tony
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I have 4 HD2's with one having the problem you describe and have come to the conclusion it's a hardware issue. Probably a cold solder joint on the antenna lead.
In WinMo or Android the signal bars jump all over the place but the signal level in 'about phone' shows a constant signal even though the bars show nothing. I don't drop to many calls but miss more than a few incoming. I travel for 5-8 hrs in the same area everyday and very familiar of good and bad areas of reception. I have tried stock/cooked ROM's/Radio's with no noticeable difference.
I'll probably send mine in to HTC to be looked at.

[Q] Data connection and other 3G problems..

Hi to all SGS2 fans out there
I'm a happy user of SGS2 but I noticed some problems during WCDMA usage. After few minutes of using 3G/HSDPA connection is still looking good on the signal bars but I'm unable to open any webpages/android market etc. I have to disable and re-enable data connection in settings to get it back working... for another couple of minutes..
Secondly I have short breakups during calls. When I'm talking to someone the phone mutes for a second. It doesn't happen every time - but it's quite often.
I'm currently using Lightning ROM 1.5 - but I had the same issues on 1.4, 1.2.
When I'm using GSM only - everything is fine.
Do you think I have a faulty unit?

I'm getting a similar issue. Currently on VillainRom 1.4. Full 3g bars but cant use browser, market, etc.

hi,i have just sign to forum now,i was looking around and seems like very populer here.
Anyway i have same problem here plus when i have 3G or HSDPA on my bar it is changing every few seconds (for example a few seconds staying 3G and a few seconds staying on HSDPA,not stable and non stop) and seems no stable and killing battery.I have already change my phone and sim for this reason under my warranty,if anyone give advise for this problem it will be really helpfull,thanks.

vojvo said:
hi,i have just sign to forum now,i was looking around and seems like very populer here.
Anyway i have same problem here plus when i have 3G or HSDPA on my bar it is changing every few seconds (for example a few seconds staying 3G and a few seconds staying on HSDPA,not stable and non stop) and seems no stable and killing battery.I have already change my phone and sim for this reason under my warranty,if anyone give advise for this problem it will be really helpfull,thanks.
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its a normal thing when some kind of background data or sync or net is active it will turn "H" and when not internet is active it will stay "3G"..

sumeshd said:
its a normal thing when some kind of background data or sync or net is active it will turn "H" and when not internet is active it will stay "3G"..
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so basicly you say "dont worry about signal changing on you bar every seconds" trhis is normal and it happen all samsung galaxy s2,am i right?