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leak 2.1, anyway to remove bootloader?

sitting here thinking, is there anyway to remove the bootloader and the leaked 2.1 os? then possibly putting 1.5 back on?

Not without serious risk... removing things and "putting them back" rarely is this simple. For it to work that way and nothing else go wrong would be a miracle.
Thanks for your input however!

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I found it last week, even posted a how to on here. So far only one person has reported it works, no one has reported that it doesnt.
Step one
Reboot your phone holding down the trackball, power button, call button, volume up and down at the same time.
Step two
place know on a hard surface
Step three
Using a large rock, smash phone.
Step four
go to
http://ebay.com
Step five
Buy new phone running 1.5
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sickbox said:
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Dude not helping...

blacklabel1783 said:
sitting here thinking, is there anyway to remove the bootloader and the leaked 2.1 os? then possibly putting 1.5 back on?
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possible....mayyyybe, probably....not likely
me and a couple of the other devs are going to try something later today when i get my replacement phone. no promises though like everything else we have tried it probably wont work

If you need to test something that may be risky, I am willing to donate a phone or two to be possible paperweights. Just PM me.

sitting here thinking again.......would it be possible to load a different rom file intended for a different phone? ie: sprint's hero, g1. and then downgrade to 1.5?
just trying to think of something that could help out.

Given up on waiting for root..

Well, I hate to say this but I have given up waiting for root as an early leak user. I feel I have the right to post this due to 1, helping wherever I could, 2, contacting paul to even get the ball rolling after jcase mentioned him 3, offered donation for a solution etc...
I love my eris but see all the neat things I am missing out on. When the evo comes out, I will be jumping from pageplus to sprint... i am sure that will be rooted and if not... im still better off.
Thank you to all who have tried their best.. I think this is one instance where the phone beat us. I am annoyed that we do not have root as it allows us to better use our own phone.
anyway, best of luck to all...

Do not feed the troll...

seriously?? I have more posts than you and I am far from that... your comment is stupid.

joey3002 said:
Well, I hate to say this but I have given up waiting for root as an early leak user. I feel I have the right to post this due to 1, helping wherever I could, 2, contacting paul to even get the ball rolling after jcase mentioned him 3, offered donation for a solution etc...
I love my eris but see all the neat things I am missing out on. When the evo comes out, I will be jumping from pageplus to sprint... i am sure that will be rooted and if not... im still better off.
Thank you to all who have tried their best.. I think this is one instance where the phone beat us. I am annoyed that we do not have root as it allows us to better use our own phone.
anyway, best of luck to all...
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I dont blame you homie.. If I had not managed to get a second eris after I jumped on the leakv1, I would have gone nuts watching all the badass ROMS and hacks get released and have no way to use them.

Ok everyone can quit complaining about the 2.1 update! I just checked Verizon ERis Software Upgrade page and its announced that there is an update coming soon! I know theres no date but at least it is now finally up on their site. If you dont belive me check it out your self & for those who doubted it would ever come this just shows that paicence is a virtue.
support.vzw.com/information/droid_eris_upgrade
Check out both pdf files. The Benifits of Software link states all the updates for 2.1. Enough said?

Good riddance.

Whitepaint said:
I dont blame you homie.. If I had not managed to get a second eris after I jumped on the leakv1, I would have gone nuts watching all the badass ROMS and hacks get released and have no way to use them.
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exactly...
WalkingTaco said:
Good riddance.
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suck it... what have you contributed?

Just short out the battery connection on the back of the phone with a small piece of aluminum foil, take it in to Verizon, explain how your phone just turned off and won't turn on and voila! You get a new phone the next day running stock 1.5, ready to be ROOTED!
That's what I did after installing the 2.1 leak and realized I couldn't get root. Let me tell you, my rooted Eris running Evil Eris v2.0 with the overclocked processor is far greater than my friends Moto Droid. I hope you make the right decision.

P.S. Don't be a bully.

There are always risks involved when upgrading a device, I learned that with the PSP and now other people are learning it with their Eris. Crying about it (in the wrong forum no less) is doing nothing to help.
A root will likely eventually be found, patience is the key. As soon as you just can't stand it anymore and upgrade/change device/etc you've potentially lost something forever.
One thing is for sure; I find it insulting that people feel they have a right to complain about being on leak, nobody held you down and forced you to flash anything.

Turnyface said:
Just short out the battery connection on the back of the phone with a small piece of aluminum foil, take it in to Verizon, explain how your phone just turned off and won't turn on and voila! You get a new phone the next day running stock 1.5, ready to be ROOTED!
That's what I did after installing the 2.1 leak and realized I couldn't get root. Let me tell you, my rooted Eris running Evil Eris v2.0 with the overclocked processor is far greater than my friends Moto Droid. I hope you make the right decision.
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It's not overclocked yet, it definitely doesnt do anything at the moment. And as far as shorting it out, I took mine into verizon complaining about the speakers all cutting out glitch and they didnt even look at the phone and swapped me out a new one in 10 minutes. It's not that hard really, just find someone in the store who looks like an idiot. All the smart people are in the back anyway.

Or You can not be a cheapskate and just Buy a new one..

or should I get a MOTO Droid or incredible but I still have my Eris with
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Marisa said:
There are always risks involved when upgrading a device, I learned that with the PSP and now other people are learning it with their Eris. Crying about it (in the wrong forum no less) is doing nothing to help.
A root will likely eventually be found, patience is the key. As soon as you just can't stand it anymore and upgrade/change device/etc you've potentially lost something forever.
One thing is for sure; I find it insulting that people feel they have a right to complain about being on leak, nobody held you down and forced you to flash anything.
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I second that ****!

Just Buy a Incredible Then Get Root Or Wait For It.

Cyostrife said:
Or You can not be a cheapskate and just Buy a new one..
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Not everyone has lots of money and buying a new eris outright is about 500 or so, used on ebay they go for over 300. speaking for myself I know I'd rather have the 3-500 to spend on bills and things then buying a new phone.

Even though I am kicking myself for not waiting a bit longer, I don't regret upgrading to any of the leaks. It gave me 2.1 months before everyone else. A little more patience never hurt anyone.

WalkingTaco said:
Not everyone has lots of money and buying a new eris outright is about 500 or so, used on ebay they go for over 300. speaking for myself I know I'd rather have the 3-500 to spend on bills and things then buying a new phone.
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Seconded. But this thread is useless. If you're tired of waiting on 2.1 leak root then get a new phone, try and get a replacement or just sit there and use the phone like it was meant to be. There's nothing wrong with 2.1 v3 in my opinion. Telling everyone you're leaving because of it is just asking to be trolled/flamed. I suggest a mod closes this thread or something.

Sheen160 said:
Seconded. But this thread is useless. If you're tired of waiting on 2.1 leak root then get a new phone, try and get a replacement or just sit there and use the phone like it was meant to be. There's nothing wrong with 2.1 v3 in my opinion. Telling everyone you're leaving because of it is just asking to be trolled/flamed. I suggest a mod closes this thread or something.
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Agree, 2.1 is so much better than 1.5. Plus, if you want to play with your phone and "customize it" a little there are home replacements in the market you can try. Helixlauncher is really good, and I just found one yesterday on android forums, real nice. It's called Zeam, http://www.mediafire.com/?jtzjyoklenk
Little to no lag and dialer is lightning fast.
So while you might not be rooted, it's nobody's fault that root hasn't been found yet or that you (op) flashed the leak. I want root too, but have the patience to wait for it to be found. There are some of the best devs on here working on it, only a matter of time.
~ happy 2.1 v3 leak user

my point wasnt i was unhappy with anyone here. I love 2.1v3 and yes, its leaps above 1.5
Just annoyed at what I am missing. I do not want this topic to be considered trollish..

2.2 coming??????

Check out Eugene_373's twitter. Looks like rhcp has a word that a 2.2 firmware for the vibrant may be coming tonight to samsungfirmwares.com
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App

*fingers crossed*
I don't always complain, but when I do, I #BlameWes

Ovrclock said:
Check out Eugene_373's twitter. Looks like rhcp has a word that a 2.2 firmware for the vibrant may be coming tonight to samsungfirmwares.com
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i can guarantee you it wont come tonight. take my word for it. even if it does we wont officially get it from android for another couple of months .i promise you that.

flameinthefire said:
i can guarantee you it wont come tonight. take my word for it. even if it does we wont officially get it from android for another couple of months .i promise you that.
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You can't guarantee anything. I know this because you don't even know how the process works.
1st Step: Samsung completes update to be released.
2nd Step: T-Mobile checks it out, makes changes.
3rd Step: Over the air update.
Also check it out, if it goes on that website, it will be here, and you can flash it yourself.

zaduma said:
You can't guarantee anything. I know this because you don't even know how the process works.
1st Step: Samsung completes update to be released.
2nd Step: T-Mobile checks it out, makes changes.
3rd Step: Over the air update.
Also check it out, if it goes on that website, it will be here, and you can flash it yourself.
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dont wanna flash anything anymore. ill rather wait for the official over the air update. if it does come to that site. how long you think it will take for tmobile to send it over the air. and is that website official samsung website?

flameinthefire said:
dont wanna flash anything anymore. ill rather wait for the official over the air update. if it does come to that site. how long you think it will take for tmobile to send it over the air. and is that website official samsung website?
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It's so easy to flash? Eh whatever.
T-Mobile has probably already been working with Samsung, so that shouldn't take much time at all. For T-Mobile to roll out the updates (to everyone) will take probably around a week or so. (I don't know why they would delay unless they need to make changes.) Like say they start Monday, some people will receive Monday, Tuesday, etc, until everyone has it.
And yea, I'm not sure if samsungfirmwares.com is an "official" site. In fact I'm pretty sure it isn't. However, a stock rom for 2.1 wandered it's way onto their before, and I mean, the rom before t-mobile even put their hands on it. So who knows.
I say to everyone. Hope for this to be real, BUT! don't expect it.

flameinthefire said:
i can guarantee you it wont come tonight. take my word for it. even if it does we wont officially get it from android for another couple of months .i promise you that.
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I can guarantee you.....that you have no idea what you're talking about. I said it MAY be on tonight. If its not, then no biggie. If it is, then awesome. But unless you're working in samsung's mobile division and actually have a clue, I say good day to you sir, and stop being the pessimist of the forum.

flameinthefire is just upset because he's been having a lot of problems with his Vibrant with battery and all that since he has made so many threads about his problems in the General forum.
Even if there is a OTA, you can manually push that update without waiting for the OTA as long as someone has the link for it. Just put it onto the root of your sdcard, rename to update.zip then boot into recovery and Reinstall Packages. Good to hear about this though, I'll stick to my idea by saying "I'll believe it when I see it" so I won't be disappointed if this is false. I'm hoping that it is true, but we all hoped the same about CM6 when that thread was made back in July because Gunnerman decided to post a thread about it to get people anticipated for it. (Not blaming anyone but it causes a panic in the community)

zephiK said:
flameinthefire is just upset because he's been having a lot of problems with his Vibrant with battery and all that since he has made so many threads about his problems in the General forum.
Even if there is a OTA, you can manually push that update without waiting for the OTA as long as someone has the link for it. Just put it onto the root of your sdcard, rename to update.zip then boot into recovery and Reinstall Packages. Good to hear about this though, I'll stick to my idea by saying "I'll believe it when I see it" so I won't be disappointed if this is false. I'm hoping that it is true, but we all hoped the same about CM6 when that thread was made back in July because Gunnerman decided to post a thread about it to get people anticipated for it. (Not blaming anyone but it causes a panic in the community)
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indeed lol i bricked my 2nd vibrant with the disabled keys now its stuck on the triangle screen. and there is no way out.. this sux

zaduma said:
And yea, I'm not sure if samsungfirmwares.com is an "official" site. In fact I'm pretty sure it isn't. However, a stock rom for 2.1 wandered it's way onto their before, and I mean, the rom before t-mobile even put their hands on it. So who knows.
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It is not even close to being an official site.
Samsung would never purchase such a domain name to use, and even use WordPress on top of that especially with a free, ugly theme.
I already knew this begin with weeks ago when this site started getting mentioned on here, but if this site were official. I would think that there would of been more 2.2 news and release dates to come with those news too. Like I said, if it were to have been official. Which I am not saying it ever would of been with such a domain name, and using WordPress.
One more thing to note, Samsung would also never create a site at Google Blogspot/Blogger. They seem to have actually hosting somewhere else now though (they did not weeks ago).

flameinthefire said:
indeed lol i bricked my 2nd vibrant with the disabled keys now its stuck on the triangle screen. and there is no way out.. this sux
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Hold down on volume. (Keep holding this until you get to download mode.)
Plug in USB and tap power button for a couple seconds.
Boom. There is no confirmed locked hardware. It is just difficult to time.

zaduma said:
Hold down on volume. (Keep holding this until you get to download mode.)
Plug in USB and tap power button for a couple seconds.
Boom. There is no confirmed locked hardware. It is just difficult to time.
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i have the new vibrant with the hardware locked. i have tried everything. nothing worked. but what you are saying is that turn the phone on first. and when i see the triangle screen hold down both vol keys till it gets in to download mode?

zaduma said:
Hold down on volume. (Keep holding this until you get to download mode.)
Plug in USB and tap power button for a couple seconds.
Boom. There is no confirmed locked hardware. It is just difficult to time.
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just tried it. doesnt work

hey but whats the password and username to download it

If I don't get FroYo next week, I'm probably going to start doing drugs.

We will not see froyo on this device soon . I'm sure of it, just like the GPS fix will never come out either. It's completely hardware. How do I know? I bird told me so.

its eclair...http://twitter.com/rhcp011235

Ovrclock said:
Check out Eugene_373's twitter. Looks like rhcp has a word that a 2.2 firmware for the vibrant may be coming tonight to samsungfirmwares.com
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
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Good job, I got the hint of new 2.1 leak from your post thanks

heygrl said:
If I don't get FroYo next week, I'm probably going to start doing drugs.
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Very few things on the internet actually make me laugh out loud, but holy **** that was funny.

heygrl said:
If I don't get FroYo next week, I'm probably going to start doing drugs.
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I'm going to commit suicide
Jesus people, Chill out. When is out, is out. Meanwhile enjoy the phone & don't lose your mind over this

about the DK05 leak wasn't about monopoly

he is lying about the whole thing. i did not give it to people i liked...
i only gave it to people that developed for the epic and people that they trust weather i liked it or not.
I gave firon the leak of dj29 then whodaman & firon decided to leak it without my approval a week later... they have the power to leak froyo without me approving that .. it take time to test froyo.. i assure you that guy that leaked it is not a developer or a tester..
thanks the mods for closing the thread of the dk05 leak because flashing the leak is NOT SAFE!
i just don't want people bricking their phone and yes it has a signature. don't take word for it my source confirmed it..
the closed leak lasted for a week before it became out of control..

Good to know that bro!
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noobnl said:
he is lying about the whole thing. i did not give it to people i liked...
i only gave it to people that developed for the epic and people that they trust weather i liked it or not.
I gave firon the leak of dj29 then whodaman & firon decided to leak it without my approval a week later... they have the power to leak froyo without me approving that .. it take time to test froyo.. i assure you that guy that leaked it is not a developer or a tester..
thanks the mods for closing the thread of the dk05 leak because flashing the leak is NOT SAFE!
i just don't want people bricking their phone and yes it has a signature. don't take word for it my source confirmed it..
the closed leak lasted for a week before it became out of control..
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I agree it wasnt posted by many people who had it for a REASON as to prevent problems and people getting BRICKED or not flashing properly.
Sit back and think about how long the leak has been out do you all really think that if it was WORTHY of being let out to the masses it would have taken so long? No it would have been posted as a rom for mass consumption REALLY Fast....
BUYERS BEWARE

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the closed leak lasted for a week before it became out of control..
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I think the epic forums are out of control. As someone stated, we should all be helping eachother.
I just see noob has done a lot of amazing work for the epic, people should be grateful & all they do talk garbage & complain. I should just get my evo back & leave all this behind.

rjmjr69 said:
I agree it wasnt posted by many people who had it for a REASON as to prevent problems and people getting BRICKED or not flashing properly.
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That explains why the modem was not released. Now why wasn't the rom released?
I think the epic forums are out of control. As someone stated, we should all be helping eachother.
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They absolutely are.

I tested DJ29 for about a week and found it was good enough for a release. DK05 bricked my modem, so I didn't consider it safe.
The ROM was -probably- okay to release, but the modem is not.
It was not held back for fame or any bull**** like that.

There are too many trolls on these forums who obviously don't understand the time and patience it takes to make things like this possible.
I appreciate all the hard work you've done noob, and firon.
I really wish I had the knowledge to participate, but my time will come

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I think the epic forums are out of control.
I should just get my evo back & leave all this behind.
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You are dead right on this one. The Epic side of the house is unbelievably bad. Not only are things slow, at no fault to anyone here, but there is WAY too much bickering in these threads. I go to the threads concerning my EVO and love it. I come here and am continually caught off guard by the way folks are. Either way, I want my Epic to stay my main phone, so I keep coming back.

Any one know what the "phone,orange triangle and little computer" mean. I fear I bricked my phone. I can't even get into download mode now. WHen I press 1 and power up the charging battery comes on the screen. Thanks for trying to keep this from happening. This the first time I have bricked a phone in many years. Guess ut was bound to happen at some point.

Why not just release the rom + modem with a disclaimer that it may brick your phone and require an Odin flash? Also, the safety net Odin represents in itself, I think, nullifies any danger from bricking.
And another thing; don't send things to people over the internet and expect them to stay secret.

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Either way, I want my Epic to stay my main phone, so I keep coming back.
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Lol, that's my problem. I love my Epic, so I just skim through the bickering & hang around. No offense but a lot of it does seem about egos & fame, but I understand what goes into being a dev & it is nice to have recognition for your work. But at the same time it's not safe to release stuff not ready for the primetime because everyday average users looking for a better phone experience will just end up bricking their phones. & like I said, everything noob has put out has been quality work & I've never had a problem with any of it. just my two cents.

ptfdmedic said:
Any one know what the "phone,orange triangle and little computer" mean. I fear I bricked my phone. I can't even get into download mode now. WHen I press 1 and power up the charging battery comes on the screen. Thanks for trying to keep this from happening. This the first time I have bricked a phone in many years. Guess ut was bound to happen at some point.
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Pull the battery and try again.

ptfdmedic said:
Any one know what the "phone,orange triangle and little computer" mean. I fear I bricked my phone. I can't even get into download mode now. WHen I press 1 and power up the charging battery comes on the screen. Thanks for trying to keep this from happening. This the first time I have bricked a phone in many years. Guess ut was bound to happen at some point.
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Hm. What you're describing sounds like you have the phone plugged in while you're trying to enter Download mode, which isn't very effective. Try plugging it out first.

Anyway we can have you guys upload DK17 at least for us to flash or odin? I can wait for the final modem...jjst want an up to date rom.

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Why not just release the rom + modem with a disclaimer that it may brick your phone and require an Odin flash? Also, the safety net Odin represents in itself, I think, nullifies any danger from bricking.
And another thing; don't send things to people over the internet and expect them to stay secret.
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Because despite all the warnings in the world people who should not touch things of this nature WILL and then a storm of accusations and mad people will hit the forums... What ever happened to being a MAN OF YOUR WORD? thats the beef
DONT SEND THINGS ON THE NET??? Guess you certainly would not be trust worthy

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Hm. What you're describing sounds like you have the phone plugged in while you're trying to enter Download mode, which isn't very effective. Try plugging it out first.
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Pull the battery and try again.
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Thanks guys. I'm not sure what was happening but I finally got it to work. Back up and running. I pulled the battery walked away and tried again and it worked.
Defiantly waiting for the ok from the people in the "know" before trying this again. Thanks for trying to protect us from ourselves. LOL

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Because despite all the warnings in the world people who should not touch things of this nature WILL and then a storm of accusations and mad people will hit the forums... What ever happened to being a MAN OF YOUR WORD? thats the beef
DONT SEND THINGS ON THE NET??? Guess you certainly would not be trust worthy
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Very well put. I am ok waiting. I don't think it's some big conspiracy. I feel better knowing that the newer radios seem to fix the gps. Now we just need to make it safer to use. Until then I'll just pull up a chair, crack open a beer and roast some marshmallows courtesy of all the flames. Anyone care to join? lol

I'm not getting dragged into another fight on here, the **** with Hero was bad enough, but I will say a few things on this issue.
1. Odin gives a safety net, and it works well.
2. The modem is safe, so long as you're competent enough to flash it right. Thats not a shot at anyone who got a brick from it, but it works fine for me and many people who flashed it successfully.
3. This ROM is essentially **** anyway. I had one of the early leaks of it, and I went back to DJ29. The music player has issues, there are UI bugs in the launcher, the camera & flashlight APIs are broken for everything but the stock camera app, and there's still the lag issue on unlock. This is all straight off a wipe as well, so it isn't that.
4. Sometimes it isn't good to give everything to the public. I don't agree with keeping it in a secret little circle for devs, but sometimes things NEED to be tested and cleaned up before they can be given to the public.
5. As for the whole thing that it was a lie that there are tags from the source in the ROM, I'm not aware of everything, but I have found a few myself. All pointing to one Korean name, who built the ROM originally, and it's the same name as on the DJ29 leaks. I'm sure you're smart enough to find it. Does that mean he leaked it? No, but it is still a liability for him and his career because it was built on his machine & probably by him as well. Some people on here are just selfish and don't realize that their craving for the latest and greatest could cost someone their job.
There. I'm done.

This is exactly why the Epic community is not progessing as fast as the Evo community, the leaks don't get put into the right hands. And progress haults, I understand your concern about bricks but maybe you should post a thread with a request for people to Close beta test and perhaps create an application that can be filled out and submitted via PM to the person in control of the leak, this could help the rom fall into the correct hands that can test and verify a rom.
Thank you.

Well when you released dj29 he lost his job then

Is it possible that wildfire froyo with new hboot will be unrevokable ?

Is it possible that htc is so advanced that they made wildfire with new hboot impossible to be OWN3D by UNREVOKED ?
Will it be ever possible ?
Just curious.

Theyre working on it atm

sure they are... last post they did that they are working on it was 10-th january or earlyer
Sent from my HTC Wildfire

If you want it so soon do it yourself or let others do it.
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nlovers2000 said:
If you want it so soon do it yourself or let others do it.
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Sorry but i was not asking about "how long do we have to wait...."
I know that they are people like us and they have other stuff to do and they do it free....
I was only asking if this is possible that it now or someday will be too hard...

In the current state of things, I think that it was, it is and it probably always will be a cat-and-mouse game. Remember the TIFF exploit on the PSP. Who would have thought about it? Hacking a console with picture? Seriously.
Despite best practice, there will always be some shortcuts taken and slack programming. Or the plainly unexpectable; rooting through a malformed wifi packet maybe?
The problem we face nowadays is that we have many hungry cats that get impatient for their food.
Having read about the Alpharev and unrevoked, it does look that this is just a question of time.
I think personally (probably because I know nothing on the subject) that making/getting the tools to sign any HBOOT (PS3 style) is the way to go.
I too have a 2.2.1 phone which I bought like this on eBay, and the wait is frustrating to say the least, but I would rather wait a bit more than stare at a brick.

I too have a 2.2.1 wildfire, I was unwittingly duped into thinking updating would make my phone better. < how wrong was I.
Looking at the positive side at least I can research and learn about Android/rooting/custom ROMs before I dive in and perform them. So hopefully no problems when I eventually do manage to root it

The unrevoked team said on the10th that they are working on it. Today we have the 30th and yet still no updates from them. The new security system is probably too good for them and maybe they will not be able to root it....

Look every system can be exploited, Some are easy and some are hard, just give them time. I have 2.2.1 firmware as i got the phone new just over a week ago. I have tried to root it myself and failed (Linux geek maybe) but andriod is new to me so now i am going to wait.
So wait and research on how to use custom roms i am its fun and give the people making the exploits time, they are doing it for free and have normal lifes like the rest of us.

Me to on OTA firmware 2.2.1!
I never root before and android a bit new for me as well.
I had following up xda to learn how to root but now people say my 2.2.1 cannot root unless someone update hboot first.
I would make a small request if it's really kick-off can someone make a video/link (like xda-ians post in SGS) how to root using hboot step-by-step.
Thank you,

imkr said:
I would make a small request if it's really kick-off can someone make a video/link (like xda-ians post in SGS) how to root using hboot step-by-step.
Thank you,
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There is a step by step detailed guide here which is more than sufficient:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=824396
Obviously, it doesnt work for 2.2.1.

3xeno said:
There is a step by step detailed guide here which is more than sufficient:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=824396
Obviously, it doesnt work for 2.2.1.
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Yes...I've read from that link as well. but can I have a link of root video? since I google in youtube just part not full...

.. perhaps it IS better if it remains locked ?

n!k said:
.. perhaps it IS better if it remains locked ?
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Why? We are not saying that when rooting is available, all people must root their phones. There are lots of people now (like me) who updated or bought the phone with 2.2.1 and now we can't root, and I really want to root again to be free to modify some things or overclock, AND CHANGE ROM.
So, there is no reason for what it should stay unrootable.

antonio1475 said:
Why? We are not saying that when rooting is available, all people must root their phones. There are lots of people now (like me) who updated or bought the phone with 2.2.1 and now we can't root, and I really want to root again to be free to modify some things or overclock, AND CHANGE ROM.
So, there is no reason for what it whould stay unrootable.
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100% agreed,

If you upgraded, without caring about the risks, you deserve it. If you bought the phone with 2.2 already installed, you are not to be blamed.
It's just the fact that people that blindly tapped on"update" and then come here to ***** and whine are driving me mad.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App

Alex_GP said:
If you upgraded, without caring about the risks, you deserve it. If you bought the phone with 2.2 already installed, you are not to be blamed.
It's just the fact that people that blindly tapped on"update" and then come here to ***** and whine are driving me mad.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App
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Why would I/We "deserve" it? Who are you to judge us that way? There are a lot of reasons for what the upgrade was done, and none of them was doing it to then disturb about rooting. I know there are LOTS of people asking without stop, but for example I keep looking and twitter and unrevokedwiki expecting some update, and just replying to help people.
What you said is a closed-mind opinion... You can't even think another way that yours, and that's sad...

antonio1475 said:
... I keep looking and twitter and unrevokedwiki expecting some update...
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Same here I must check those sites at least 3-5 times daily.

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Why would I/We "deserve" it? Who are you to judge us that way? There are a lot of reasons for what the upgrade was done, and none of them was doing it to then disturb about rooting. I know there are LOTS of people asking without stop, but for example I keep looking and twitter and unrevokedwiki expecting some update, and just replying to help people.
What you said is a closed-mind opinion... You can't even think another way that yours, and that's sad...
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You may call me closed minded, it`s your call, but, I think that people need to learn to live with their decisions.
I`m not talking about you (but if you feel targeted, it`s not my problem), but If you don`t think before you act, you need to pay the price. Think of it this way:
Someone gives you a gun, and tells you that you can shoot anyone you want. You take the gun and shoot some people, but the police catches you. You`ll say "but that man told me I could shoot people with my gun, he`s to blame". NO! you are to be blamed, you decided to shoot those people.
Same thing with the 2.2.1 update. HTC gave you the update, but they did not make you install it. YOU installed it! It`s your choice. Consequences? You can`t root (for now). Don`t come around and whine about not being able to root.
The update was leaked 2-3 days before the official release. In all the topics, people said: "don`t flash it, it will kill/make you unable to root", but it was hopeless.
When and update announcement popped up on your phone, what did you do? Did you think"oooooh, it has an OK button, so I bet I must push it!" or did you think "Now, let`s do a little google search, see what is this update all about?"
If you answered the second one, good thing, you`re normal. If you answered the first....... I`m not gonna comment, because you will say that I`m a mean, close-minded man.

Alex_GP said:
You may call me closed minded, it`s your call, but, I think that people need to learn to live with their decisions.
I`m not talking about you (but if you feel targeted, it`s not my problem), but If you don`t think before you act, you need to pay the price. Think of it this way:
Someone gives you a gun, and tells you that you can shoot anyone you want. You take the gun and shoot some people, but the police catches you. You`ll say "but that man told me I could shoot people with my gun, he`s to blame". NO! you are to be blamed, you decided to shoot those people.
Same thing with the 2.2.1 update. HTC gave you the update, but they did not make you install it. YOU installed it! It`s your choice. Consequences? You can`t root (for now). Don`t come around and whine about not being able to root.
The update was leaked 2-3 days before the official release. In all the topics, people said: "don`t flash it, it will kill/make you unable to root", but it was hopeless.
When and update announcement popped up on your phone, what did you do? Did you think"oooooh, it has an OK button, so I bet I must push it!" or did you think "Now, let`s do a little google search, see what is this update all about?"
If you answered the second one, good thing, you`re normal. If you answered the first....... I`m not gonna comment, because you will say that I`m a mean, close-minded man.
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First of all, I'm sorry, I didn't really mean to offend. I was saying that you might get in my/our situation or position. The exact reason for what I flashed the 2.2.1 was because I wanted the stability of a complete official ROM to flash the OC kernel. At least to have something stable for sure and then try some new ROMs.
That's my exact case, and each person will have their reasons.
And for the record, I didn't see ANY message about "don't upgrade". You are more "senior member" if you want to say, but I'm not stupid. Could you just accept I made a mistake, as we all do? And now I am quietly waiting for unrevoked bringing the solution, without yelling "unrevoked please/go go go/ **** no unrevoked yet/ etc..."
As I always try to, smile