My reason for doing this topic, is that i have tested roms, over a long period. My history is that i bought a used HTC Magic, it had a Hero Rom on it (Fata1ty) It was so full of bugs and errors, that after i while i started searching for alternatives.
I found the JacHero roms, and tried installing them according to the guides, but i couldn't, since they required Danger SPL and so on.
So i searched some more and came across MyHero (1.1.3) I installed it, and it worked surprisingly well.. I followed the updates until 2.05. But i found some bugs (Bluetooth didn't work!) So after a while i started searching again.
I then stumbled onto GyD's roms.. I Started with the 1.xx version, and updated until the latest 2.1.1, and this rom rocks on the stock spl and radio. Everything works and its has very little lagg. So i could actually have been stuck on that.
UpdateBut i decided to test some other roms, when i heard about the Android Eclair 2.1 coming out. I found Eugene373 and his Hero 3.1, which had been ported to 32a by ahmgsk. I had it on my phone a couple of days, but a lot of things didnt work (Like my language, danish, bluetooth, camera, and there was a few bugs, especially with the HTC apps) so i went back to GyD - But learning to use the xda forum taught me to check out devs statistics and i found that ahmgsk had ported some other roms, including the Expresso 2.0 and the SuperD. So i tested them - and that brought me to test Amon Ra's Ion and Cyanogens 1.6. I compaired the three roms (RAION1,6, Cyanogen 4.2.12.2 ahmgsk's ported SuperD) and i found that SuperD is the closest i can get to having a fully functional Android 1.6 rom.. Unfortunately it doesnt have HTC sense UI, and since i dont like the Sapphire Donut ui, i went further with my testing.
I read about CursorDroid a while ago, i saw that i had to flash radio and spl to use it, so i didnt go into that, since i had a bad experience trying to get JacHeroski 2.2 on my magic - I followed his guide on updating Danger SPL, unfortunately i somehow got the SPL for the 32b, and i bricked my phone.. I didnt like doing that again, but i felt that i had to try. And this i dont regret at all.. Its simply so fast, running so smooth and the guy is amazing. Updating the rom every day, and he responds to all the queryes he gets. I can recommend that all try this - Just follow Amon Ra's guide on upgrading radio and spl, and you cant do it wrong..
First postHi there - This thread is for sharing experiences with the developers rom's, not to ditch anyone, so i hope we can keep a good tone in here. I have tested the most of the rom's for the 32a, and i have tried changing SPL and Radio, and i have rooted a magic, from the latest HTC RUU..
In my experience there are two criterias for being a fast and stable rom.
-It has to support as many users as possible - This means multi language(HTC_IME, Locales and dictionaries from almost every country), no change of SPL and Radio.
- It has to have limited bugs, and Cam, bluetooth, wireless network etc. has to work.
So, i did some testing, i bricked one magic due to it, and i have tried installing the lastest update from HTC, getting root back on my magic, thanks to Amon Ra, and many others.
I always use Amon Ra's recovery images, since they have all the necessary tools. Latest is the recovery-RA-sapphire-v1.5.2H.img, which can be found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=530492
The roms i have tested are:
Amon Ra's ION1.6 (Android 1.6) (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=538645)
Cyanogen ROM 4.2.12.2 (Android 1.6) (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=567610)
Ahmgsk's Expresso 2.0 (Android 2.0) (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=608581)
Ahmgsk's Ported Hero 3.1 (Android 2.1) (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=592114)
Ahmgsk's Super_D 1.5.1 (Android 1.6) (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=609714)
GyD's 2.1.1 (Android 1.5) (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=548837)
Myhero 2.05 (Android 1.5) (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5325344)
These are all tested with SPL 1.33.2010 and Radio 3.22.20.17.
In my opinion, the best, most stable and usable by anyone is GyD 2.1.1, this you just install and setup to your liking, and it runs smooth and fast. Myhero is also like that, but it has some glitches and bugs, like a brightness issue, and the screen seems interlaced when running it.
Of the other roms, if you want to run Android above 1.5, i would suggest that you try out Ahmgsk's Super_D - It is the one that has the latest UI, but it doesnt come with HTC keyboard, and only has limited multi language and dictionaries. You need to install HTC_IME yourself, Cyanogen has put it out on XDA here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=567294
I have excluded JacHeroSki 2.2 in this thread so far, because i have been unable to make it run on any of my phones - And i have searched for help regarding flashing radio and Danger SPL, but have been unable to find it for 32a..
I then went and tested CursorDroid's CursorSense which has some complicated installing issues..
First you have to change Radio and SPL, and then you can apply the Rom. This is the only rom available for this SPL and Radio, so you have to revert back, if you dont like this Rom - CursorDroid claims that this is the closest to the real Hero, i wont say for or against, i can just state, that it really works.. This is the best rom on the market at the moment!
CursorSense 1.0final (Android 1.5) (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=592856)
CursorSense 1.0final has just been released, you can just apply without wipe.. Here is a list of apps i have removed from my version of CursorSense:
Use "adb shell rm"
/data/app/wireless_tether_1_60-pre3_htc.apk
/data/app/wired_tether_1_0.apk
/data/app/BizCardReader.apk
/data/app/AndroidNotes.apk
/data/app/TitaniumBackup.apk
/data/app/org.connectbot.apk
/system/app/com.htc.StockWidget.apk
/system/app/com.htc.StockWidget.odex
/system/app/com.htc.TwitterWidget.apk
/system/app/com.htc.TwitterWidget.odex
/system/app/DCSStock.apk
/system/app/DCSStock.odex
/system/app/HtcFootprints.apk
/system/app/HtcFootprints.odex
/system/app/HtcFootprintsWidget.apk
/system/app/HtcFootprintsWidget.odex
/system/app/HtcTwitter.apk
/system/app/HtcTwitter.odex
/system/app/LearnMore.apk
/system/app/LearnMore.odex
/system/app/Stock.apk
/system/app/Stock.odex
/system/app/teeter.apk
/system/app/teeter.odex
/system/app/WapBrowser.apk
After uninstalling, reboot with "adb shell reboot"
Last but most importantly, i would like to give big thanks to all the developers on xda, you make a tremendous effort, giving us all the best experiences with our phones. Without you guys, no one would have the opportunity to experience the full capacity of Android! Keep up the good work, and do you guys need any help, i would gladly help out in any way i can..
Cheers dude!
Thumbs up for CursorSense , indeed the BEST rom out there! ( Thanks Cursor! )
Regards,
Eyegor
Nice article!
And I couldn't agree more.
I have also tried a few ROMs, but I have never been as satisfied as I am now.
My ranking would be:
1. CursorSense 1.0RC1
2. MagicGyd 2.1.1
3. CaSense 1.11
4. MyHero 2.0.5
CursorSense is the only ROM that is currently under development, and we can expect a new version (1.0RC2) in the next few days. Updating Radio, SPL and using Amon's Hero Recovery is a requirement, but when following instructions, you should not risk bricking your phone.
Highly recommended!
CursorSense is still 1.5 right? Same as all other Hero roms? Just want to know what is so great about it.
evilmerlin said:
CursorSense is still 1.5 right? Same as all other Hero roms? Just want to know what is so great about it.
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The quick answer is speed and stability. Sure some version have had issues, but with the latest release all have been removed, and since it's still being improved, the developer is addressing any newly reported issues in future releases.
The best way to learn about the ROM, and get the full story, I recommend reading through the developers thread (or at least the last 10-15 pages)
To everyone looking for a clean ROM I would recommend Amon_Ra's
Its almost as clean as a stock ROM
But it provides a 1.6 update to the 32a board (where HTC didnt) and the cleaness make it as good as a HTC update
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CursorSense is still 1.5 right? Same as all other Hero roms? Just want to know what is so great about it.
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CursorSense is Android 1.5, but its running on upgraded spl and radio - Spl and Radio that are from a genuine HTC Hero phone, so its not like other Hero rom's available on Magic spl. It's really fast, and everything works..
My reason for doing this topic, is that i have tested roms, over a long period. My history is that i bought a used HTC Magic, it had a Hero Rom on it (Fata1ty) It was so full of bugs and errors, that after i while i started searching for alternatives.
I found the JacHero roms, and tried installing them according to the guides, but i couldn't, since they required Danger SPL and so on.
So i searched some more and came across MyHero (1.1.3) I installed it, and it worked surprisingly well.. I followed the updates until 2.05. But i found some bugs (Bluetooth didn't work!) So after a while i started searching again.
I then stumbled onto GyD's roms.. I Started with the 1.xx version, and updated until the latest 2.1.1, and this rom rocks on the stock spl and radio. Everything works and its has very little lagg. So i could actually have been stuck on that.
But i decided to test some other roms, when i heard about the Android Eclair 2.1 coming out. I found Eugene373 and his Hero 3.1, which had been ported to 32a by ahmgsk. I had it on my phone a couple of days, but a lot of things didnt work (Like my language, danish, bluetooth, camera, and there was a few bugs, especially with the HTC apps) so i went back to GyD - But learning to use the xda forum taught me to check out devs statistics and i found that ahmgsk had ported some other roms, including the Expresso 2.0 and the SuperD. So i tested them - and that brought me to test Amon Ra's Ion and Cyanogens 1.6. I compaired the three roms (RAION1,6, Cyanogen 4.2.12.2 ahmgsk's ported SuperD) and i found that SuperD is the closest i can get to having a fully functional Android 1.6 rom.. Unfortunately it doesnt have HTC sense UI, and since i dont like the Sapphire Donut ui, i went further with my testing.
I read about CursorDroid a while ago, i saw that i had to flash radio and spl to use it, so i didnt go into that, since i had a bad experience trying to get JacHeroski 2.2 on my magic - I followed his guide on updating Danger SPL, unfortunately i somehow got the SPL for the 32b, and i bricked my phone.. I didnt like doing that again, but i felt that i had to try. And this i dont regret at all.. Its simply so fast, running so smooth and the guy is amazing. Updating the rom every day, and he responds to all the queryes he gets. I can recommend that all try this - Just follow Amon Ra's guide on upgrading radio and spl, and you cant do it wrong..
well the thread is a good, idea. the amount of changes required and also the higher risk of bricking it compared to other roms doesn't appeal.
I am leaning to wards gyd for my magic.
I have updated post 1, so there is some more news..
I also take recommendations to other roms than the ones i have covered, and i can test roms for you, if you want me to..
Wow, didnt' realize that all of this was going on!
Thanks guys, I appreciate the support!
Stay tuned for more updates!
For anyone scared to update radio/spl, there is no need to worry as long as you remember to follow directions and ask questions if you need help.
Cheers!
cursordroid said:
Wow, didnt' realize that all of this was going on!
Thanks guys, I appreciate the support!
Stay tuned for more updates!
For anyone scared to update radio/spl, there is no need to worry as long as you remember to follow directions and ask questions if you need help.
Cheers!
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yeah, juz flashed your ROM today and must say it's freaking awesome. I was on AmonRa's 1.6.3 and it was not as fast and crash-free as your ROM.
Yeah, its a really cool rom, and now its final.
I am currently testing Cyanogen 4.2.12.2 on my other phone - Its running smooth and stable so far. All i miss is the danish HTC_IME, so i dont have to have an Locale app, to be able to revert back to danish, when i had to write in english. And then the Sense UI, that would be nice..
How about posting up some videoreviews of Cursordroid on Youtube?
Can't believe there's almost no custom ROM reviews
i use myhero 2.0.5, it's good for me
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How about posting up some videoreviews of Cursordroid on Youtube?
Can't believe there's almost no custom ROM reviews
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Great idea, I will most certainly think about it. Got a 8mp webcam, so..
IMO cursordroid's cursorsense is the most stable of the ROM's I have tried so far (i've tried cyanogen and Amon_RA's rom) but I didn't expect I was constantly gonna need the bluetooth FTP which made me change from cursorsense to back to cyanogen (it was very hard on me to let that ROM go)
Anyway, when cursordroid's rom gets upgraded to android 1.6/2.0 (i feel this is gonna be soon, very soon), I'll flash it again
rockmau said:
IMO cursordroid's cursorsense is the most stable of the ROM's I have tried so far (i've tried cyanogen and Amon_RA's rom) but I didn't expect I was constantly gonna need the bluetooth FTP which made me change from cursorsense to back to cyanogen (it was very hard on me to let that ROM go)
Anyway, when cursordroid's rom gets upgraded to android 1.6/2.0 (i feel this is gonna be soon, very soon), I'll flash it again
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Sense UI + Android 2.1 will be out eventually (The sooner the better) and when it does you know Cursor will be on it.
My opinion - which one is the best (most stable) one - CursorSense
Hi everyone
At the moment, my phone is powered on CursorSense (Updated to 1.2.6.1) and it has workiong so great so far.
I really tried, cnahged and tested many other roms before and this one looks like the most stable then any previous one.
It's the most stable rom for HTC magic (which including SenseUI) and the most featrues works.
Of course, everyone of u knows that there r some bluetooth issue and Android is based on v1.5, but upgraded rom and spl makes phone running really fast and stable
So, my recomandition to everyone (who hasn't tried yet) to run this rom
I belive that everyone would like it is based on Android 2.0 (or above ), bluetooth ftp works propetly...but there's no such a perfect rom, so, I hope this one will be upgraded to more stable version which will be deployed to my phone as soon as it comes out
Best regards!
CursorSense by a mile
The first ROM I installed on my Rodgers Magic was Amon_RA's 1.6.3. Worked great BUT my Magic is one of those that reboots when the camera is used on a Donut or Eclair ROM. After trying lots of ROMS, I discovered that the camera reboots went away using the new radio and a Eclair ROM. The Eclair roms are too slow and buggy for me so I now have CursorSense and will upgrade to 2.1 when it is released by Rodgers and rooted most likely by CursorDroid.
Hi chefs and gourmets,
I'd appreciate a totally frank answer to a simple question.
I have the stock WWE 1.66 ROM. I don't have major problems, just occasional hangs/freezes caused by bad apps, and I have to clean the RAM quite a bit when I have several apps running. But generally, the phone is stable and fast enough.
So, if I flashed a cooked ROM - say the Co0kie Energy ROM, which is very popular - would I notice such a difference in speed and stability that it'd be worth the day it would take me (a newbie) to flash and reinstall all my apps?
For a small, not really noticeable difference, I can't see the point. But for a 'new phone' experience, a huge jump in speed and stability, I guess I might give it a go.
I know it's hard to generalize, but if possible I'd like a rough idea of whether it's worth it.
Thanks,
David
for me (and quite a few others) the speed jump and stability are massively better than the stock roms our phones came with. However if you are happy with the speed and stability of your phone and you arent particularly intrested in experimenting in your phone then i maybe you shouldnt.
i was thinking what u are thinking a few weeks ago . could not dicide if it would make that bigger differance. but it does.
the 1st rom i tryed was steve's elegancia rom and i found it alot better than stock. more colour , faster, more stable. lots more options.
if i were you, now knowing what i know now i would change the stock rom.
plus its very easy to do .
i was in the same boat, except in the end i had no choice.
My phone was crashing daily and i eventually ran out of phone storage. So i bit the bullet and flashed the energy cht rom. I wont flash again as i now dont need to.
It is quicker, i compared it alongside a friends stock phone who literally has no apps on it at all and mine is faster. It looks waaaaaaaay better, it has much more storage and for me comes with way better options pre-installed such as swype etc.
As JJbdoggg said though if you are happy with what you already got then there probably is no NEED to flash.
as for installing everything again, lots of cooked roms use the autoinstall feature. put your most commonly used cabs into a folder called autoinstall on the sd card, and the rom installs them when it first runs.
As others have mentioned, most think as you are when they are contemplating this or anything for the first time, but id challenge you to find someone on XDA who has started flashing and all of a sudden stopped.
It becomes addictive because you are always searching for a better setup, faster etc and as it becomes easier for you to do as you become more accustomed, why wouldnt you.
Most have purchased the HD2 as its a tweakers phone, great in standard form but with so much variety in ROMS these days, your litterally a few clicks away of never looking back.
Once you start you wont be able to stop There are just so many varieties, saves you alot of hassles in terms of installing everything via CAB's as its cooked in and there are always newer updates coming out with so many tweaks for the better.
Hi
I find that if you were to flash a custom rom based around wm 6.5, the main improvements would be the updated base os and cooked apps. This can bring added stability and speed, and of course the htc base updates also bring new divers, but there is no sure and fast way to rate this with so many different apps around.
For me the biggest improvement over stock roms is the ability to use a rom based around 6.5.x which in my opinion is far more user friendly than 6.5. All of my apps work great with 6.5.x and is far more finger friendly. Come on HTC give us a official 6.5.x update!!
dso371 said:
Hi chefs and gourmets,
I'd appreciate a totally frank answer to a simple question.
I have the stock WWE 1.66 ROM. I don't have major problems, just occasional hangs/freezes caused by bad apps, and I have to clean the RAM quite a bit when I have several apps running. But generally, the phone is stable and fast enough.
So, if I flashed a cooked ROM - say the Co0kie Energy ROM, which is very popular - would I notice such a difference in speed and stability that it'd be worth the day it would take me (a newbie) to flash and reinstall all my apps?
For a small, not really noticeable difference, I can't see the point. But for a 'new phone' experience, a huge jump in speed and stability, I guess I might give it a go.
I know it's hard to generalize, but if possible I'd like a rough idea of whether it's worth it.
Thanks,
David
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Do eet...do eet now!
Seriously, flashing a GOOD rom will make your phone like new. That flash comes with updated software packages, optimized Winmo settings, etc.
Best of luck and happy flashing!
flash it! it always helps, as most custom roms are way better than stock roms!
i've flashed my first custom ROM on my TD2 in september 2009 after using stock ROM for about 2 or 3 weeks... i've tested mostly all available ROMs out there.
then i've bought my HD2 and even did not start it once in delivery condition! i've put in the battery, start bootloader, flash hspl and agian started to test available ROMs for HD2
for me windows mobile is not a platform for use out of the box! but it's my favorite platform due to the possibilities of customisation
I think I'll try other ROMs (than stock) when my warranty has expired. When I read about the hardware problems some people are having with their HD2 I think the risk of losing warranty when those hardware problems occur is too big right now.
Having said that... some of the hardware problems may turn out to be software problems and you could avoid these by using a different ROM...
dio62000 said:
I think I'll try other ROMs (than stock) when my warranty has expired. When I read about the hardware problems some people are having with their HD2 I think the risk of losing warranty when those hardware problems occur is too big right now.
Having said that... some of the hardware problems may turn out to be software problems and you could avoid these by using a different ROM...
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(assuming you have a regular leo)
dont forget the warranty need only be invalid for ten minutes. You dont have to leave hspl installed once the rom is flashed.
install hspl2 - choose 2.08.hspl
install cooked rom
run hspl2 again - choose 1.66.0000 - thats it, hspl is gone.
thats it, you have a cooked rom, and a valid spl. They wont refuse you for the cooked rom, only if you try sending it back with hspl still installed.
Ok, thanks. But are you sure they will accept a cooked ROM... even if you remove hspl? I guess the hspl is only to give the ROM a specific number then?
dio62000 said:
Ok, thanks. But are you sure they will accept a cooked ROM... even if you remove hspl? I guess the hspl is only to give the ROM a specific number then?
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no one has reported having it refused except when hspl is installed.
in theory you can make a stock rom look like a cooked rom just using cabs, (in theory, in practice it would be pretty tough) whereas hspl specifically violates the terms of use.
not sure what your last sentence means. hspl simply bypasses region and provider lock checks so the rom will install. once it is installed it doesn't need to be a hacked spl.
Thanks for explaining. I didn't know what exactly hspl does apart from allowing to flash different ROMs (although I used it for someone else's device to flash to a different language just following the instructions on the "how to flash"-topic ).
so what is a good rom
Hi
So what is a good rom
how does one instal it
how do I prepare such an installation
where to find the download of a good rom
thanks
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it's definitly worth it, even if it takes you some time to restore everything to the way it was befor! In case you become addicted to flashing you'll find a way to easily restore everything each time your flash.
I would never go back to any Stock ROM, only to send my phone back to be repaired!
Just follow the flash guides, it's really easy and takes like 10 minutes (maybe longer the first time because you try to avoid mistakes):
remove SIM and SD cards (!), do a task29, flash radio (optional!), flash ROM, hard-reset, let the phone set up, a second hard-reset, plug-in SIM and SD cards again, restore, done.
Sooner or later we shall all flash the WP7 ROM on our HD2's,so why not start now.
hagba said:
Sooner or later we shall all flash the WP7 ROM on our HD2's,so why not start now.
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sooner or later you will all kneel before my magnificence, why not start now?
samsamuel said:
sooner or later you will all kneel before my magnificence, why not start now?
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Sure,since there is life after death why not start living now.
Hi!
I have the strangest question
My phone is reaaallly slow, so I figured I'd do a hard reset and reinstall everything.
My question is, what should I do
Basically I just want the latest version of windows mobile and HD2 updates. To get it really up to date
So can you give me any recommendations on what exactly I should update?
Thanks
The easiest way is probably to flash a custom rom..... one of the newer ones.
Should contain all the freshest updatey goodness and give the speed your looking for.......
Best thing to do is work out which apps you liked and what worked and do a hard reset back to factory spec and only install the apps you like...
After getting the phone most of us install every app that comes along, settling for a few that are essential... Hard resetting and fresh installs will help greatly...
Only go a custom rom if you really know what you are doing and only if you are dedicated to try several to find one that suits you...
argentocruz said:
After getting the phone most of us install every app that comes along, settling for a few that are essential... Hard resetting and fresh installs will help greatly...
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I know I used to do so with my old telephone (TYTN II), but recently I spoke with a friend of mine (he has a HD2 too). He's really into computers etc, and he has the latest roms and everything. He told me that his phone is A LOT faster now.
The only thing is: I have no idea where to start. Just download the latest windows mobile? or should I download the latest HTC HD2 rom? Or both? In what order? Any other updates?
argentocruz said:
Only go a custom rom if you really know what you are doing and only if you are dedicated to try several to find one that suits you...
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I guess i'm lucky then. i settled on the first one i tried but i did have a very lenghtly read of the forums before i picked one to install
pietme said:
I know I used to do so with my old telephone (TYTN II), but recently I spoke with a friend of mine (he has a HD2 too). He's really into computers etc, and he has the latest roms and everything. He told me that his phone is A LOT faster now.
The only thing is: I have no idea where to start. Just download the latest windows mobile? or should I download the latest HTC HD2 rom? Or both? In what order? Any other updates?
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Before i went down the custom rom route i did modify a stock 1.66 rom so i can make a comparison here between as shipped stock, modded stock and custom 6.5.5. I can tell you that 6.5.5 is miles better, faster and if you get a custom rom with a newer version of sense that's even better.
Flashing custom roms has been covered so many times many people are bored of replying but i'll see what i can do in one post.
First you need a copy of HSPL3. Search for it, it will turn up. Don't ask how to install it. All you need to do is run the exe in the file you download.
Then you have a choice. You can either install and updated radio rom (will possibly improve signal and battery life but to find the best one for you and your area may take a couple of flashes and some testing) or just skip straight to the main event. I recommend that all new rom flashers use Energy 23569 standard sense 2.5 because it's fast, pretty lightweight and very close to a HTC stock rom in looks which makes it pretty easy to use. To install follow the instructions in the first couple of posts of the energy rom thread.
I also recommend that you have a look at leocpuspeed V4 and chainfire's 3D driver patch v2 (search for those). Once configured they will greatly improve the performance of the device running any rom you install and it's well worth it.
if you dont wanna go custom rom, i guess you could check see if you have all the latest updates from the HTC site, take it from there, only install apps to the device that need to be on the device such as tweaking apps and install everything else on the sd card, and get your self clean ram or bsb ram sweeper, will reclaim the ram for you from the programs you thought you may have closed but didnt really close.