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I hope this is ok here, I have searched a lot and my question is not directly answered (or I can not find it)
I have just had a new HD turn up, had one when they first came out but liked iPhone so much, could not stop using it, so Touch HD went back.
Just been through lots of different phones again, as at last I am finding iPhone limiting in the things I want to do. Just rejected a TP2 as it has no 3.3mm socket, and is a bit heavy, quite happy with soft keyboard now from iPhone use, so I think Touch HD will suit me fine.
OK, I really liked the TP2 feel, and software, but I also liked using SPB Mobileshell 3 on it, so I plan to use this on my HD.
Now, finally my question
I have never understood why I might want to put a custom ROM on my device. I have read all the guides, and the dummies guide, but although that helps me understand HOW to do it, not sure why I would WANT to do it?
I can understand for those people that have a horrible Orange branded one or something, but mine is standard 1.56.405.1 from HTC, unbranded.
So, I see that Custom ROM can have programs already in them, and they add features like the new TF3D on the TP2, which I liked, but since I am gonna use SPB MS3 is there any point?
Sorry if I sound like a total noob, I really am not (just flashed an Orange Samsung i8910 from and to Orange 4 times so I can follow these things), but in the case of the i8910, I could see why I would flash new ROM, to get rid of Orange crap, but here, just really confused.
Thanks in advance for any insight, if I have posted in wrong place, please point me to correct place.
Kev
I also use MS3 and have been wondering if it's worth upgrading to a new ROM as most are TFL3D.
I guess after upgrading to a new ROM that the provider details will need to be reset - but that's not a bigee as the OS looks up the details right ?
<draws up a chair>
A small list of pro's & con's below:
Pros:
- New features - A lot of new features first arrive on cooked roms like new touch flow interface from the new rhodium and topaz htc phones. Obviously most stock roms now have this, but originally they didn't. Without flashing, this wouldnt have been available.
- New manila which makes customization easier
- You can install new OSs such as windows mobile 6.5
- Various types of roms available, i.e. "lite" ROMs which have very little features and as a result are faster or "heavier" ROMs which tend to be a bit slower though gap in speed has dramatically decreased with newer versions.
- Have many features/apps already "cooked" into the ROM to save you installing them yourself after a hard reset
- Some have new drivers which improve performance.
- Some have custom interfaces
- Process isnt that hard once youve got hardspl/uspl sorted (and that gets easy after a short while too). its all run through an app on your computer with your HTC connected via activesync to your computer which is about as easy as installing a program (just click next, i agree etc.)
Con's
- Can take a bit of time to get used to the process. But once you have it becomes vry quick
- Need to use backup software as all your apps and contacts (everything on the main memory is wiped clean. Information on SD is left untouched). Recommend Sashimi, PIM Backup & SPB Backup.
If you use your HTC for more than just its basic features and want to get the most out of it, definately flash a new ROM. The performance increase is noticeable going from a stock ROM to a well cooked ROM. You'll have to use HSPL or USPL on your phone first. My mate cRaCKwHoRe has provided this excellent guide
new manila which makes customization easier, offers landscape all over, better speed all over, even under heavy stress....my absolute favourite, Start is no longer that ugly WinMo '90s look-a-like square drop down menu, it's a program launcher i can open from any tab, program, whatever, so it's oh so easy to open anything from anywhere in two very fast and smooth clicks
can't even remember does the stock have whole Facebook profile linking to Contacts profile, saving pic and birthday (which i then sync to Outlook, which syncs it to Calendar)....oh, manila calendar, the WinMo thing is just awful, i'd rather use pen and paper
the whole experience is much much prettier, more user friendly and faster at that....with every update there's less WM and more manila, which is what everyone probably wants (from HTC or generally) :/
OK, so Manila and TF3D are exactly the same thing?
So assuming this is true, all the stuff I could do on the TP2 I had would be doable on this Touch HD if I put a cooked ROM with Manila 2.5 on?
Kev
Fallen Spartan said:
A small list of pro's & con's below:
- Can take a bit of time to get used to the process. But once you have it becomes vry quick
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Thanks so much for taking the time to do that. I think I am getting.
As I ask someone else, Manila and TF3D are the same thing right?
So, this HardSpl and softSpl, I have read the guide, but am still not clear why I would use one over the other?
At first glance, it would make sense to only use Hard? Why might someone not want to do that?
Kev
huh, i use USPL because it's a small program you run, it takes about 10sec to load and you're done, ready to flash....HSPL seemed like more hassle to begin with and USPL is really easy and simple :/ somehow even if i flashed 10 times a day, i wouldn't really see a problem with just running USPL :/
manila 2.5 is leaked, not officially out on any phone, 2.1 is out on TP2....and 2.5 is bugged, probably just a fun thing to try, not really use daily and seriously....2.0 and 2.1 are your every day options, and yes, probably everything on TP2 is in some of the ROMs cooked for Touch HD
Ah, OK so USPL would be good for me as I do not intend to flash new ROM very often?
It seems HardSPL would be for people that would be flashing all the time?
I read the bit where you say you would use USPL even if flashing lots, but surely if you were, HardSPL would be better?
Ok, so forget 2.5 Manila then, (just saw a Video and thought it was common), look for ROM with 2.1?
What version do we have on stock HD?
Thanks for answering.
Kev
kevwright said:
Thanks so much for taking the time to do that. I think I am getting.
As I ask someone else, Manila and TF3D are the same thing right?
So, this HardSpl and softSpl, I have read the guide, but am still not clear why I would use one over the other?
At first glance, it would make sense to only use Hard? Why might someone not want to do that?
Kev
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HSPL is an user-modified SPL that you have to flash to your phone. It overwrites the existing SPL on your device with a "hacked" one so to say. It allows you to bypass the HTC certificate check and flash unsigned or CID-mismatching roms to your phone. You only have to flash it once and then you can flash roms anytime.
USPL is a temporary solution. It takes advantage of an exploit in the existing SPL and then loads a modified one to memory, effectively allowing the same thing as HSPL. However, since this is only memory-resident you have to do it each time you want to flash unsigned or CID-mismatching roms to your phone, because this exploited state is lost upon reboot. With USPL you must still have the right version of the HTC SPL that is compatible with the rom you want to use.
Basic difference is that HSPL is permanent and voids warranty and USPL is temporary and thus doesn't void warranty. However, once you use HSPL you can flash any radio & rom any time you want, but with USPL you need to reuse it before every flash to new radio or rom.
If you put HSPL on your device you can remove it by following procedure at bottom on first post in this thread.
There are 2 versions of HSPL, 1.14 & 1.56. Make sure you use the correct version for whatever rom you intend to flash to, i.e.
HSPL 1.56 is for roms based on 1.56+
HSPL 1.14 is for roms based on pre 1.56
kevwright said:
Ah, OK so USPL would be good for me as I do not intend to flash new ROM very often?
It seems HardSPL would be for people that would be flashing all the time?
I read the bit where you say you would use USPL even if flashing lots, but surely if you were, HardSPL would be better?
Ok, so forget 2.5 Manila then, (just saw a Video and thought it was common), look for ROM with 2.1?
What version do we have on stock HD?
Thanks for answering.
Kev
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Ok, go to settings tab in TF3D and scroll down to 'About'. It should state something like TouchFLO 3D 2.1.38147.5. I highlighted the version in bold i.e. In this case its manila version 2.1
Ok, I think I need to flash a ROM, as I am finding the Touch HD a little less exciting than the TP2 I just sent back.
I liked the TP2 but it was heavy and had no 3.5mm jack, but it seemed quite a bit faster than this HD. Screen seemed much brighter as well, is that possible?
Anyway, now I have decided, I really don't have a clue what ROM to use. I have been reading this site for the last 4 hours, and am no further forward.
Kev
I'm hoping to get some answers out of this thread as well Kev - without hijacking though
If I want to keep all my current program settings and the like, is there a foolproof method by which I can restore programs from a backup on my Stock rom, onto a newly flashed cooked ROM.
I am looking for the newer features of the latest manilla but I don't want to lose any of my current data and go through the process of reinstalling the programs again.
I have pimbackup so know that will be a synch!
lol, well, Dutty 3.9XT is a huge hit, i love it and think it should be made stock, so you can go with that one....i also tried Laurentis26 latest one and it was lightning fast and smooth and is based on TP2 ROM so that's another option
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=537948
manila 2.1 can have an sms bug, not everyone has it, but even TP2 suffers from it and there's still no official HTC fix....some people can't send 2 sms in a row to a same person, i am one of them and that's why i stick to manila 2.0 :/
Wiggz said:
I'm hoping to get some answers out of this thread as well Kev - without hijacking though
I have pimbackup so know that will be a synch!
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Hijack all you want mate, we will get better answers!
I want to flash before I get it all setup, and I need to hide my iPhone away, the screen is so much brighter than this HD :-(
I keep thinking though, all my old WM devices were based on standard software and SPB Pocket Plus, and I do like the standard today screen. With this in mind, how much will I benefit from a new ROM since they all seem to be based around really good inplementation of TF3D.
Kev
kevwright said:
Hijack all you want mate, we will get better answers!
I want to flash before I get it all setup, and I need to hide my iPhone away, the screen is so much brighter than this HD :-(
I keep thinking though, all my old WM devices were based on standard software and SPB Pocket Plus, and I do like the standard today screen. With this in mind, how much will I benefit from a new ROM since they all seem to be based around really good inplementation of TF3D.
Kev
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Although a lot of roms are based around good implementation of TF3D, they are also cutomized for speed, performance & stability of phone overall. So a cooked rom should out perform a stock rom in almost all categories
Fallen Spartan said:
Although a lot of roms are based around good implementation of TF3D, they are also cutomized for speed, performance & stability of phone overall. So a cooked rom should out perform a stock rom in almost all categories
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..and what about my particular question relating to restoration of stock rom backup (programs, not rom files obviously)
Just to add my own view to this as I have had the same dilemma in the past.
I stayed with stock....basically because I have quite a few apps installed on my device, and it seems that almost every other day updates are coming out to cooked ROMs to fix bugs, and it takes half a day to reinstall my apps and set them up. if ROM updates are coming out every few days I would spend half my life updating to the new one to fix a bug and then having to reinstall my apps.
Wiggz said:
..and what about my particular question relating to restoration of stock rom backup (programs, not rom files obviously)
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am afraid there's no way to restore programs, they have to be reinstalled since flashing is just like hard reset/clear storage, deletes everything on the device (not the storage card) :/
also, with flashing you're upgrading manila and most other programs to latest released built, so you don't wanna restore old files as they might not work with newer versions :/
i use Outlook to re-sync my contacts and calendar and Microsoft MyPhone to restore sms messages....also have opera6.adr file on my storage card which i just copy into /Windows/Opera folder to restore my bookmarks....RSS Hub i set to use Storage Card for data, then it says i already have some settings there and asks do i want to overwrite, select no and i have my old channels set
rest i do by hand, but post-flash set up takes 30min once you get used to it :/ many programs/icons/stuff require a restart after installation, one just remembers which and does them one after the other and then, after you installed taskbar, clock, icons, s2u2, such, you do one restart and it's all done in minutes
@twisted-pixel: yes, it can happen that you flash weekly to correct bugs....however i'm on the same ROM now for month and a half, did flash last week, 3 times in a day, but i was bored and wanted to try out stuff went back to the same ROM again at the end of the day
I have NRGZ28's ENERGY ROM, its worth flashing it, if for nothing else, the SPEED. My HD had all the 'Orange' crap on it and it was so slow compared to how it is now....go ahead....FLASH!! (your rom, that is)
suisen said:
am afraid there's no way to restore programs, they have to be reinstalled since flashing is just like hard reset/clear storage, deletes everything on the device (not the storage card) :/
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Just to update you all on this.
Throy's latest roms have included an auto-install for apps when flashing. I've tried this and it works a charm. See quote below.
Autoinstall thanks to my Good friend Tom: [ FAST and Fantastic.]Create folder in Root of Storage Card called [ Autoinstall ]
Copy all your cabs in that folder
After Flash , and during customisations all your cab will be installed.
Also set your cabs to read only
So get Your Storage Card prepared with all your Cabs to install.
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Only drawback on this is that all apps are installed onto main menu, so if you want any apps installed on your SD Card you will have to install them manually or alternatively use Sashimi backup which also auto-installs apps etc
Hey guys, got a couple of questions quick so any help would be great =)
I know you can set people's contact card pics as their facebook profile pic, i've done this for everyone successfully, just wondering if there is any way to make it auto-update (i have unlim data plan), or a way to update everyone on one click, the only way i can update them now is to go to each individual, open their online albumn, then edit the contact card, and let the new pic download, surely there's a faster way?
Also when i'm viewing a conversation between me and another person (in text messages in HTC Sense), it takes forever to load, and i can't type a message till all of them have loaded, and there's a 160+ for each person so they all load pretty slowly, surely there's a work around so i can type whilst it loads?
Thanks in advance =)
Edit: oh there was another thing, if i browse someones facebook photos, can i set any photo as the contact card picture rather than just the profile picture?
Thanks again
Bump, anyone help please? :/
joncy92 said:
Hey guys, got a couple of questions quick so any help would be great =)
I know you can set people's contact card pics as their facebook profile pic, i've done this for everyone successfully, just wondering if there is any way to make it auto-update (i have unlim data plan), or a way to update everyone on one click, the only way i can update them now is to go to each individual, open their online albumn, then edit the contact card, and let the new pic download, surely there's a faster way?
Also when i'm viewing a conversation between me and another person (in text messages in HTC Sense), it takes forever to load, and i can't type a message till all of them have loaded, and there's a 160+ for each person so they all load pretty slowly, surely there's a work around so i can type whilst it loads?
Thanks in advance =)
Edit: oh there was another thing, if i browse someones facebook photos, can i set any photo as the contact card picture rather than just the profile picture?
Thanks again
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ansew to first question myne automatically updates, to the second question www.htc.com have a ROM update to prevent the sms issue
My HD2 came from T-mobile so i can't upgrade the rom can i? =[
joncy92 said:
My HD2 came from T-mobile so i can't upgrade the rom can i? =[
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im no expert myself, im a newbie. but from experience you go on to htc website choose hd2 and all the updates are there. mynes on t-mobile to cant see that being a problem.
lukohtchd2 said:
im no expert myself, im a newbie. but from experience you go on to htc website choose hd2 and all the updates are there. mynes on t-mobile to cant see that being a problem.
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you will be able to download updates, but youwon't be able to download roms from the htc website, it will give you an error when you input your serial.
read through the forum, there are numerous threads about updating rom when you are provider locked.
samsamuel said:
you will be able to download updates, but youwon't be able to download roms from the htc website, it will give you an error when you input your serial.
read through the forum, there are numerous threads about updating rom when you are provider locked.
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i have already upgraded the ROM, my phone wasnt directly from t-mobile weather that makes a difference i dont no.
lukohtchd2 said:
i have already upgraded the ROM, my phone wasnt directly from t-mobile weather that makes a difference i dont no.
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Ah, so if it is vendor unlocked then yes, you should be able to use the htc website. 1.66 i think is the latest.
samsamuel said:
Ah, so if it is vendor unlocked then yes, you should be able to use the htc website. 1.66 i think is the latest.
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1.66 is the one i downloaded
samsamuel said:
you will be able to download updates, but youwon't be able to download roms from the htc website, it will give you an error when you input your serial.
read through the forum, there are numerous threads about updating rom when you are provider locked.
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This forum or HTC's forum?
this forum. (in brief - install hspl will let you install any rom, go hunt and do some reading, then when you understand what you are doing, go for it. )
Ah right thanks a bunch, just one last thing
When I'm downloading updates from HTC's website, it says select location closest to you, should I select europe 1 or 2 (I'm in london)
Doesnt matter, thats just which server sends you the file.
Ah right thought it was to do with bands heh
Thanks a bunch
Sorry for double post, thought i'd ask here rather than make a new thread
Is it possible to enable more than 3 alarms? Any way to edit the reg or something?
Bump,
Also my HD2 keeps freezing now, it just slows right down for no reason, sometimes when it'd idle over night, after i've finished from a call, and sometimes out of the random, i keep having to soft-reset but now it's getting ridiculous
The only apps i've installed are:
MS Office
MS Win Live 10.6
TorchButton
Touch X Taskmngr
MS My Phone
Skype
.NET 3.5
markuz Saber
TomTom (also done bluetooth fix)
Bing
FpseCE
Youtube
G-Shotgun
ProdSon Diamond Hologram
MS Classic Blue
MS Rock and Republic black
MS DVF Green
KS Ron Arad orange
Hotfix LEO 7477
Gotfix LEO07268_625
Hotfix LEO07664
Facebook (1.1.0.14)
XaMaB Bubblewrap
Daniel Herrero Bandswitch
MS Marketplace
ANY help will be greatly appreciated
joncy92 said:
Sorry for double post, thought i'd ask here rather than make a new thread
Is it possible to enable more than 3 alarms? Any way to edit the reg or something?
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Only more than three alarms with 3rd party alarm software (cant recommend, i dont use more than three, sorry)
As for slowdown, first off disable the flip clock when you return to home page, (search for disable manila flip) secondly if wifi is on that can make it sluggish when you wake it from sleep as it reconnects.
Hey peeps, gna post here rather than create a new thread.
I'm thinking about installing a cooked rom, i'm pretty sick of this ****ty t-mobile rom.....phone freezes up constantly, slows down etc.
Will flashing a cooked rom complete wipe everything off the phone, texts, contacts, photos, music, apps etc etc?
Hi Everyone,
Found this great site looking for forums for the HD2, seems every other leads to here in some way another.
Got my HD2 on Monday with Virgin, so in 5 days I've come to find it an amazing piece of kit yet ultimately annoyed.
I've already got a list of problems and annoyances:
Having to double tap and go into the email fully so it appears read
Tapping to reply to a text yet nothing happens
When using the 'phone' keypad it types in numbers
The phone screen basically crashing so when you press a button it doesn't show the unlock screen. Thus having to take the cover off then the back, then the battery
Pressing the x in the corner of an app yet going to task manager and its still open
The over sensitivity when typing a text and showing words that don't make sense in the predictive text
Having to f**k about for ages to get wi-fi off grrr!
Having to install 3.5 compact .net. I still don't know how to do it
I understand there is a cab for the text and app for the wi-fi but surely it shouldn't be like this. I'm not a technophobe or whatever you want to call one and like to think I'm pretty clued up on tech, (That's why I bought the phone) yet I haven't a clue what a ROM does nor how to install them. I can just cope with cabs ha.
It seems Windows/HTC slogan should be 'There's a cab for that'. (not good)
Anyway rant over and Hello! I'm sure I'll be doing more learning over the next few weeks!
Dan
tips, tricks & tweaks:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638
rom flashing guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=625919
.net....3.5 download:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...49-3C6B-42F1-9FD9-0041345B3385&displaylang=en
to flash roms from your pc you need activesync*:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/help/synchronize/device-synch.mspx
*) for win vista/7 download "device center" instead of activesync, you'll find the link on the same page
Hi 27firesnake, hope you don't think I was being lazy. Thanks for the links though. I know I'll have to do some digging around, just thought I'd let people know of my story so far.
DanParker said:
Hi 27firesnake, hope you don't think I was being lazy. Thanks for the links though. I know I'll have to do some digging around, just thought I'd let people know of my story so far.
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not to worry mate, this community is all about sharing and helping each other.
Hi there. I'll try to give you more "readable" info about the issues you mentioned. I'll just change the order of the questions...
Having to install 3.5 compact .net. I still don't know how to do it
You can use the official Microsoft link provided by 27firesnake, but you'll have to do some reading... The simplest way is to download a cab and install it directly on your phone. You'll fine one here (item #18). You should do this first, as many great applications (including BsB Tweak) need this system component in order to work!
I haven't a clue what a ROM does nor how to install them
Well a ROM is basically your operating system (Windows Mobile) + HTC Sense (homepage and tabs). You are currently an official RO (usually called "stock ROM" in this forum). What we need to know is what version you use? Most likely 1.43 or 1.48, which are not the latest from HTC. The most recent released ROM is 1.66 and runs smoother and might give you better experience overall, even though there no major updates (just a compilation of fixes). Anyway, some people manage to get "not yet released official ROMs" (usually called "leaked ROM") and are able to install them on their devices. The latest leaked ROM is 2.07 (that should appear on the T-Mobile HD2). Anyway, I would not recommend installing a leaked or cooked ROM for the moment, since you're still a newbie and just received your device...
Simpler answer: you should install the official ROM 1.66. Try to go on the official HTC website to do so. If your serial number is rejected, you should contact your carrier (Virgin) to know when you'll be able to download it. People here will advice you to install HSPL to be able to bypass this protection, but as I said, you should wait a bit more, when you know Windows Mobile more. To learn more about that subject, go to the link in my signature.
Having to double tap and go into the email fully so it appears read
Well this doesn't seem to be a problem, or I don't understand? The email appearing in the Mail tab are just "previews" of your email and you should tap to get in the "real" e-mail application to read them fully.
Tapping to reply to a text yet nothing happens
I don't understand. You're not able to answer to a text-SMS ?
When using the 'phone' keypad it types in numbers
Again, this doesn't appear like a problem. I mean, you should compose phone numbers when in the phone application. If you write the beginning of a number, you'll automatically see the contacts whose number begin that way. Anyway, if you prefer, you can use the People tab (then "All People") to choose a contact typing the first letter (instead of phone number).
The phone screen basically crashing so when you press a button it doesn't show the unlock screen.
Is it real crashes or just freeze? I mean, I you wait for a long time, like 1 to 5 minutes, the lockscreen doesn't come back? Many people, including myself, reported some freezes from time to time, but the new ROM 1.66 really improved thing on my side. You might look for this thread for more and this one too.
Pressing the x in the corner of an app yet going to task manager and its still open
OK, this is easy to solve. Just install the "Duttys HTC Task Manager". It will install a task manager and enable the closing of any application using the cross. You can find the cab here (tip #7).
The over sensitivity when typing a text
The latest ROM 1.66 decreases the sensitivity of the touchscreen. If you can't install it, the easy way to solve this is to install the (very recommended) tweaking application called "BsB tweak". There are a lot of simple tweaks you can ON/OFF. One of these is called "decrease sensitivity" or something like that. If it's still too sensitive, then you can install the fixes found here. Just to be sure you don't have a flawed unit, check if you touchscreen has the following problems (go see the youtube videos too).
showing words that don't make sense in the predictive text
I don't have answers for that one, but I know the predictive is not the best on this mobile. You have two options:
1 - improve your typing thanks to the less sensitive touchscreen (if you make less errors, the prediction will be more accurate )
2 - install an alternative keyboard like Touchpal or maybe Swipe...
Having to f**k about for ages to get wi-fi off grrr!
Well, there are numerous ways to solve this issue.
- you can install a shortcut on you home page for the (already installed) "Comm Manager". Comm Manager is already installed and was designed for you: it is a collection of ON/OFF switchers (wifi, bluetooth etc).
- you can install an application that simply switch wifi ON/OFF. Then you install a shortcut on your home page, so you simply tap it to enable or disable wifi. You can find an application like that here (along with a lot other more)
Hope this long post helps
Smaberg's WiFi toggle cab (sticky in the apps and themes section) is a godsend (as is the BT Toggle cab). I have the 20 shortcuts cab installed so that on the top row I have shortcuts to each of these on the homescreen, along with my two most used apps and main contact (girlfriend).
BSB tweaks is definitely recommended also.
When you type a name into the Phone dialler, it may show numbers, but it narrows your options by alpha, so providing you can spell the name you're after it works just fine. You'd have to have triple tap letter selection there otherwise, which is just far less efficient than whats on offer.
guy .. i have experience something in my device .. i was wondering why my device keep pop out the error msg like service.exe and the device.exe ..
it is quite annoying because everytime pop out those error msg .. i have to open the back cover and soft reset it .. it is very serious .. happened everyday for 3 to 5 times ..
Tapping to reply to a text yet nothing happens
Yeh, you have to wait (if lots of messages) for it to load above. You can see this by the scroll bar on the right becomming shorter.
Once it has finished loading those messages, you can tap and it will start composing.
But if you tap before those messages have loaded; it does nothing.
Hi all,
Thanks to all for contributing here - so much good stuff! I wanted to post this here to help others in my situation.
My wife and I got a pair of HD2's during the week. Absolutely loving them.
I was too scared of bricking two brand new phones so I set about removing all traces of Telstra and tweaking them to our satisfaction without flashing the ROMS. After a few days I'm pretty happy with the results so far:
From standard to these (at the minute, changing all the time!):
on imgur.com look at /DPgJT.jpg and /9qUiN.jpg (I'm link restricted..)
I would say that you can do everything you want with these phones without having to flash the rom if you prefer not to.
For anyone looking to de-telstrify their phones, here's some easy steps (from memory). I'm put together this little guide as there's just too much information to wade through at the start. All of these recommendations are subjective, stuff I like but you might not!
1. Get ActiveSync (if pc doesn't have it) and use it to connect phone, explore to phone's storage card. Copy cabs here to run from your phone.
2. Join these forums so you can download relevant cab files, add your experiences, etc. One way to find cab files listed below is by putting cab name (as shown) in google, then clicking xda forum links in the results.
3. Start with "Unlock_Quicklinks_Telstra.cab". Frees 3 front quicklinks.
4. Get "Co0kie.HomeTab_v1.6.1.cab". Consider installing Max Manila instead – you need to pick one or the other; I like Cookie so far- seems simpler, seems less theme oriented and more tweakable. I like the 3 pages of quicklinks side by side.
5. Get "CHTEditor.v1.6.1.CAB" which lets you edit cookie. Make a quicklink button for it. Go in and play with settings to your liking. (Don't touch what you don't understand for the moment, take it slow..) Can replace 'Telstra 3G' with whatever (I've got "Dave's HD2" in the screenshot) using 'custom operator text'.
6. Also make quicklink for file explorer – you'll be using a lot.
7. Get "HD2Tweak 1.2.0_English.cab". Create quicklink to it and then play with settings in there. You can use 10. – Device startup – animation to stop the testra vid that plays on boot. Faster bootup and one more ad gone.
8. Also create button for "hd2 soft reset" which comes with above. Any time you need to reboot after install, if the cab doesn't prompt you then can use this button. Very handy.
9. Get "Duttys Task Manager for Leo.cab" This makes a nice file manager tool in top right corner, good for killing programs.
10 Get "BsB Tweaks 1.6.cab" and you have it all covered. I like this one for 'Tap time' to stop accidental taps. Also under the menu you can enable shake for screenshots and can reassign the 'phone' soft button.
At this point you have lots of quicklink buttons for adding new stuff, and lots of tools installed to some of those buttons. There is some crossover with all these tweak tools but they seem to co-exist peacefully as far as I can tell and all have something to offer that the other doesn't have.
Now it's time to clean up a bit more.
*With cookies you can drag your quicklinks around to arrange them. Just hold them until they pop up in the add/remove screen.
*Set your slider options so only the slider elements you like come up.
*Go into contacts and delete all those pricey branded services that you won't ever use unless you're drunk – you can always get your mate to ring instead.
*Personally I hate being pushed towards things and stuff like 'sensis search' just makes me angry. So I fired up File explorer and navigated to My device=>windows=>start menu=> programs and started deleting stuff I don't want to see. From here I believe it's only shortcuts so nothing is uninstalled for the moment. (Do this at own risk though). Just hold your finger on the file and a menu will pop up and you can choose delete.
Ok at this point there's very little branded stuff left on the phone (that I've found yet). Time for making it look nice. This is totally subjective and almost all the options are on xda developers. I would recommend:
10. Make folders in your storage card: sliders, clocks, wallpapers, installed. Makes it easy to organise/change these (by reinstalling the cab file)
11. Go to the site ppcmods to download the cabs for great sliders and clocks. Very nice collection.
12. Get "V6 TEST 5 HD2 GSM Only 1.66 WEE.cab" for the colour icons at the top. Great mod.
13. "AM Slider trasparente con cornice Sense 2.5.cab" and "- Orologio Trasparente Antonio_Sense2.5.CAB" make the slider and calendar transparent respectively.
14. For backgrounds the best I've found is to install this patch "HQWallpaperPatch_v1.21_forManila2.5.1920.cab" so you can have fullscreen (no black bands at top and bottom)
15. Followed by installing "HDWall" onto your PC – you can use this to make any pic a cab file. It gives you a nice preview as well so you can see what will be under the clocks/calendar/etc. Great program.
That's it, appearance tweaked as you like it.
You'll probably want/need some other apps that have been discussed and linked to pretty well – this was intended more to be a getting started guide to get you to a place where you like the look of the phone and there's no angrifying stuff in your face.
Last thing I can think of – you need to go into mail, and in your inbox view, choose menu => tools(scroll down to see) =>options=>signatures and take out the "Sent by Telstra NExtG".
Hope this helps.
Will this work with the HTC Touch Dual 850/Neon 200?
Sorry dude, no idea.
By the way I've found 'Send-A-Card' in the messages menu - if anyone knows how to remove this, please post here. It's the last bit of Telstra-ware I can see embedded in the phone and I'd love to get rid of it!
Thanks for putting together a quick and useful guide. These are the first things anyone wants to do with a new phone (especially a Telstra one - they have so much T-junk!), and it's great not to have to wade through pages and pages of posts to find the basics!
Appreciate it.
so it works?? feeback please
I have google the .cabs?
I am from Mexico
regards
yup, all the stuff he's said works. u can find the cabs on here as well
nice guide, thanks mate! be awesome if you can link in the cabs once you can post links!
MyEmail
Is there a way to get rid of MyEmail link in mailbox list ?
D.
Hello yes it so easy, when you be on the mail screen, go to option then go to account setting, there you could delete any account that you want.
regards
Any idea on how to get rid of the "send from my Telstra NextG handset" signature at the end of all new emails? Annoying that I have to delete it every time.
Cheers,
Oakeypara said:
Any idea on how to get rid of the "send from my Telstra NextG handset" signature at the end of all new emails? Annoying that I have to delete it every time.
Cheers,
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mail tab - inbox - menu - tools - options, click signatures at bottom of screen, , ,, , the rest is up to you!
Kitestyle said:
Hi all,
Thanks to all for contributing here - so much good stuff! I wanted to post this here to help others in my situation.
My wife and I got a pair of HD2's during the week. Absolutely loving them.
I was too scared of bricking two brand new phones so I set about removing all traces of Telstra and tweaking them to our satisfaction without flashing the ROMS. After a few days I'm pretty happy with the results so far:
From standard to these (at the minute, changing all the time!):
on imgur.com look at /DPgJT.jpg and /9qUiN.jpg (I'm link restricted..)
I would say that you can do everything you want with these phones without having to flash the rom if you prefer not to.
For anyone looking to de-telstrify their phones, here's some easy steps (from memory). I'm put together this little guide as there's just too much information to wade through at the start. All of these recommendations are subjective, stuff I like but you might not!
1. Get ActiveSync (if pc doesn't have it) and use it to connect phone, explore to phone's storage card. Copy cabs here to run from your phone.
2. Join these forums so you can download relevant cab files, add your experiences, etc. One way to find cab files listed below is by putting cab name (as shown) in google, then clicking xda forum links in the results.
3. Start with "Unlock_Quicklinks_Telstra.cab". Frees 3 front quicklinks.
4. Get "Co0kie.HomeTab_v1.6.1.cab". Consider installing Max Manila instead – you need to pick one or the other; I like Cookie so far- seems simpler, seems less theme oriented and more tweakable. I like the 3 pages of quicklinks side by side.
5. Get "CHTEditor.v1.6.1.CAB" which lets you edit cookie. Make a quicklink button for it. Go in and play with settings to your liking. (Don't touch what you don't understand for the moment, take it slow..) Can replace 'Telstra 3G' with whatever (I've got "Dave's HD2" in the screenshot) using 'custom operator text'.
6. Also make quicklink for file explorer – you'll be using a lot.
7. Get "HD2Tweak 1.2.0_English.cab". Create quicklink to it and then play with settings in there. You can use 10. – Device startup – animation to stop the testra vid that plays on boot. Faster bootup and one more ad gone.
8. Also create button for "hd2 soft reset" which comes with above. Any time you need to reboot after install, if the cab doesn't prompt you then can use this button. Very handy.
9. Get "Duttys Task Manager for Leo.cab" This makes a nice file manager tool in top right corner, good for killing programs.
10 Get "BsB Tweaks 1.6.cab" and you have it all covered. I like this one for 'Tap time' to stop accidental taps. Also under the menu you can enable shake for screenshots and can reassign the 'phone' soft button.
At this point you have lots of quicklink buttons for adding new stuff, and lots of tools installed to some of those buttons. There is some crossover with all these tweak tools but they seem to co-exist peacefully as far as I can tell and all have something to offer that the other doesn't have.
Now it's time to clean up a bit more.
*With cookies you can drag your quicklinks around to arrange them. Just hold them until they pop up in the add/remove screen.
*Set your slider options so only the slider elements you like come up.
*Go into contacts and delete all those pricey branded services that you won't ever use unless you're drunk – you can always get your mate to ring instead.
*Personally I hate being pushed towards things and stuff like 'sensis search' just makes me angry. So I fired up File explorer and navigated to My device=>windows=>start menu=> programs and started deleting stuff I don't want to see. From here I believe it's only shortcuts so nothing is uninstalled for the moment. (Do this at own risk though). Just hold your finger on the file and a menu will pop up and you can choose delete.
Ok at this point there's very little branded stuff left on the phone (that I've found yet). Time for making it look nice. This is totally subjective and almost all the options are on xda developers. I would recommend:
10. Make folders in your storage card: sliders, clocks, wallpapers, installed. Makes it easy to organise/change these (by reinstalling the cab file)
11. Go to the site ppcmods to download the cabs for great sliders and clocks. Very nice collection.
12. Get "V6 TEST 5 HD2 GSM Only 1.66 WEE.cab" for the colour icons at the top. Great mod.
13. "AM Slider trasparente con cornice Sense 2.5.cab" and "- Orologio Trasparente Antonio_Sense2.5.CAB" make the slider and calendar transparent respectively.
14. For backgrounds the best I've found is to install this patch "HQWallpaperPatch_v1.21_forManila2.5.1920.cab" so you can have fullscreen (no black bands at top and bottom)
15. Followed by installing "HDWall" onto your PC – you can use this to make any pic a cab file. It gives you a nice preview as well so you can see what will be under the clocks/calendar/etc. Great program.
That's it, appearance tweaked as you like it.
You'll probably want/need some other apps that have been discussed and linked to pretty well – this was intended more to be a getting started guide to get you to a place where you like the look of the phone and there's no angrifying stuff in your face.
Last thing I can think of – you need to go into mail, and in your inbox view, choose menu => tools(scroll down to see) =>options=>signatures and take out the "Sent by Telstra NExtG".
Hope this helps.
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hi mate,i found a mobile repair shop that remove telstra off my hd2,cost me 60 bucks it's worked great for the past 2 months no problems,running 1.66 rom i've installed a lot of stuff from xda and elswhere everything has installed ok and runs fine,i'm with optus
Thanks
I sure appreciate all the helpful posts here. Thanks guys!
1.72 rom upgrade
Fantastic post
Works well with the latest Rom 1.72
Kitestyle said:
Hi all,
Thanks to all for contributing here - so much good stuff! I wanted to post this here to help others in my situation.
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Champion! Great help for setting up my Telstra HD2. Thanks a heap!
Error with CHTEditor.exe - Help
I jsut received my phone the other day and am totally new to this. I read your Noob guide written by Kitestyle.
I have a Telstra model here in Canada. I loaded your Cookiehometab1.6.1. Worked fine. And then Tried your recommendation to load the CHTEditor.exe to the SD card.
Ran it and got an error:
"An unexpected error has occured in CHTEditor.exe. Select Quit and then restart the program, or select details for more info.
Details indicates this application requires a newer version of Microsoft.NET Compact Framework than the version installed on this device.
Am totally gray to this....recommendations appreaciated!
Thank you
Paul
the only way to truely de-Telstra and free your HD2 is to
1. HSPL3 -> removes CID lock
and
1.1 ( might want to do a task29 to really make sure ROM is squeaky clean )
and
2. Flash to official HTC WWE ( not Telstra branded ) rom, or any other cooked ROM of your choosing
its easy, and works well, i'm on Telstra NextG network, now running the official HTC english Hong Kong 1.72.831.1 ROM ( not Telstra branded ), and now have the ability to run any ROM i see fit, thanks to HSPL. Best part is, if and when you have to do a hard reset ( and you will at some stage ), all the Tel$tra nasties stay away....permanently
Hi
I may have missed this, but is there some way to change the websites displayed on the apps and downloads page, the one that comes up with the orange circle with teh white arrow
whichway
telstra shut down splash screen
anyone know how to delete or change the animated telstra shut down screen right before the phone turns off? i have deleted the animated boot up splash screen and the shutdown splash is all i have to delete
5tyl15m0 said:
anyone know how to delete or change the telstra shut down screen?
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Do a quick Google search for Anisasia's End Key or If you want you can get Touch Tools causecit has a Boot Manager that you can intergrate to be the defualt end keys.
shut down splash screen (edit and repost)
anyone know how to delete or change the animated telstra shut down screen right before the phone turns off? i have deleted the animated boot up splash screen and the shutdown splash is all i have left to delete
Well, I finally got my HD2, and have been getting to grips with it for about 2 days now. Pretty steep learning curve but go it connected to home wifi, and I'm just considering which apps to put on it? I apologise in advance if I ask a question that's already been answered, and only ask that someone point me in the right direction? Happy posting!
For a beginner!!
Perfect free tested apps for HD2
Co0kie's Home Tab 1.8.5 and its editor (a must have app finally for customizing the home tab)
Midomi (song recognizer)
Datacontroller (controls data internet connection)
Skyfire (IE with flash support)
coreplayer (best player)
Nimbuzz (IM collected)
Dragonball (cooooool game, luxor style)
Openwebradio (free international internet radio but needs TCPMP)
Mp3 trimmer (cuts mp3s to use as ringtones)
Reboot
Omniano the band v 1.1.2 (best free music instruments collected)
IGO8 (best GPS navigator)
Stopwatch
Getytv (download youtube videos)
Omarket (free app market)
TCPMP (player)
cleanRam
uconvert (best converter)
Duttys task manager for Leo (brings back the top right corner task manager)
SPB TV (awesome international internet tv)
Mp3 tag editor
Scilor's groovemobile v13 (retrieves songs from a database to listen to and be added to playlists for later playing)
Scilor's groovedownloaderwm (downloader for songs)
SciLor's LeoCameraAnyKey (allows capturing of photos thru the volume keys)
BSB tweaks (cool tweaks for the HD2)
JWMD icon changer (change app icons and themes)
Experiment 13 (cool game with nice graphics)
Just search for them on the site or try googling!!
Welcome to the world of HD2, Enjoy!!!
In case u don't know how to install....
The files' extension is .cab
Transfer the app thru bluetooth or by usb cable then search for the file then install it, i recommend installing the apps on the storage card except for BSB tweaks, datacontroller and skyfire better to be on device.
Try to save all the source files (the .cab ones) in a separate folder on the storage card for later reference .
My 2 cents.
First off coreplayer isn't free but it is worth the cash. Also look up wifi remote access premium. Again not free but it's only £5 on ms marketplace and it is probably the best application i have. It allows you to transfer files, edit the registry and remotely control your phone, amungst other things, over wifi.
Secondly, once you have got to grips with your new gadget, look at installing a new rom. It's probably the best thing i have done to mine since i've had it. New roms third party roms include a lot of the free apps and usually increase the performance of your Leo. I prefer the energy standard series but there are tons of other options.
The brilliance of owning a windows mobile or even an android based device is that they are extremely customisable if you have the willing and patience to learn how to do it. You are right, the learning curve can be steep, but it is totally worth it if you put the effort in.
As a side note, there are some apps (coreplayer is an example) that use activesync (or windows mobile device center) and an .exe file on your PC to install the program on to the phone but to be honest once you get your head around everything it's not too hard to figure out what you need to do to install any program.
Hi I'm a new member to this forum and just placed an order for a t9193, pretty excited waiting for the phone to come in. I wanted to ask what is a recommended rom if I wanted to dual boot winmo and android. I'm kind of new to the smartphone market so any advice would be greatly appreciated.
HolyGamerBatman said:
Hi I'm a new member to this forum and just placed an order for a t9193, pretty excited waiting for the phone to come in. I wanted to ask what is a recommended rom if I wanted to dual boot winmo and android. I'm kind of new to the smartphone market so any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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Best place to ask that question is in the android boards. There is a sticky thread that should cover all your questions.
from personal experience I thought "omarket" was a great place to start as most apps mentioned can be download from there . You might have to register/download the app through the website then after installation use the app to download other apps from your hd2. The website Is www.freewarepocketpc.net
Sorry for the delay in getting back. MANY THANKS Sevo!
M3PH said:
My 2 cents.
First off coreplayer isn't free but it is worth the cash. Also look up wifi remote access premium. Again not free but it's only £5 on ms marketplace and it is probably the best application i have. It allows you to transfer files, edit the registry and remotely control your phone, amungst other things, over wifi.
Secondly, once you have got to grips with your new gadget, look at installing a new rom. It's probably the best thing i have done to mine since i've had it. New roms third party roms include a lot of the free apps and usually increase the performance of your Leo. I prefer the energy standard series but there are tons of other options.
The brilliance of owning a windows mobile or even an android based device is that they are extremely customisable if you have the willing and patience to learn how to do it. You are right, the learning curve can be steep, but it is totally worth it if you put the effort in.
As a side note, there are some apps (coreplayer is an example) that use activesync (or windows mobile device center) and an .exe file on your PC to install the program on to the phone but to be honest once you get your head around everything it's not too hard to figure out what you need to do to install any program.
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Thanks M3PH. I'm enjoying the customisation options at the moment, and won't tackle the rom upgrade until I'm confident enough. By the way, thanks for the two cents.
Moschino02 said:
from personal experience I thought "omarket" was a great place to start as most apps mentioned can be download from there . You might have to register/download the app through the website then after installation use the app to download other apps from your hd2. The website Is www.freewarepocketpc.net
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I started at omarket Moschino, but came to the conclusion that xda was the place to be. These dudes are the cats pyjamas when it comes to apps, mods, themes etc. I downloaded the omarket app, and have a look there once in a while but here is where it's really at!
HolyGamerBatman said:
Hi I'm a new member to this forum and just placed an order for a t9193, pretty excited waiting for the phone to come in. I wanted to ask what is a recommended rom if I wanted to dual boot winmo and android. I'm kind of new to the smartphone market so any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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Welcome. I can't give you any advice on roms, but I can tell you that you're in the right place to find out. I've had mine for just over a week now and I couldn't be happier with it, despite reading a lot of negative reviews prior to getting it. Check your posts and I'm SURE you'll find the answer you're looking for.
Hulmeman said:
I started at omarket Moschino, but came to the conclusion that xda was the place to be. These dudes are the cats pyjamas when it comes to apps, mods, themes etc. I downloaded the omarket app, and have a look there once in a while but here is where it's really at!
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Damn Straight
The only thing I would recommend from omarket is the htcaddicts cleanram utility.... but I think you can get that on xda.......
Seeing as nobodys mentioned Cookies Home Tab yet I thought Id throw that in the mix......... Have a look at the CHT thread
Once you've got your apps sorted you can spend the rest of your life trying out all the different sense modifications / themes that are out there......
oh yea how can we forgot CHT??
re my earlier post, i meant to say omarket is a great place to start in terms of downloading your first app that was it ...but xda is the dogs bollocks you dont have to look elsewhere
Hulmeman said:
Well, I finally got my HD2, and have been getting to grips with it for about 2 days now. Pretty steep learning curve but go it connected to home wifi, and I'm just considering which apps to put on it? I apologise in advance if I ask a question that's already been answered, and only ask that someone point me in the right direction? Happy posting!
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Calm down and try app one by one.
And also follow any instructions CAREFULLY.
Don't forget to read any warnings.
T8585
Hello everyone,
I got my new T8585 last Saturday. Had a hard time sync contacts from Outlook 2010 (64-bit), finally found that it is not possible and had to install outlook 2007 and then do the all importing exporting and sync. Finally was able to get that done yesterday and have all my contacts moved to HD2.
Still not sure how to feed in the aniversary/bday reminders as i was always using Nokia before this device.
Have not customized anything yet, just able to configure the WiFi and 3G and copy contacts.
Also my vendor said that if I change ROM, my 1 yr warranty would be void. So not thinking about modifying ROM (1.48.720.2 an Radio 2.05.51.05_2).
I have noticed that the battery is really poor with this devide, specially if I keep the WiFi on. Are there any tweaks to modify the battery life?
Any suggestions to make most of this device will be great.
Thanks for all the help and advice.
richteralan said:
Calm down and try app one by one.
And also follow any instructions CAREFULLY.
Don't forget to read any warnings.
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Thanks richteralan. I've got about 7 apps on my device now, and read the reviews instructions/feedback carefully before deciding which ones to install. Many thanks for the advice tho. Much appreciated.
conantroutman said:
Damn Straight
The only thing I would recommend from omarket is the htcaddicts cleanram utility.... but I think you can get that on xda.......
Seeing as nobodys mentioned Cookies Home Tab yet I thought Id throw that in the mix......... Have a look at the CHT thread
Once you've got your apps sorted you can spend the rest of your life trying out all the different sense modifications / themes that are out there......
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Yet more thanks conantroutman! CHT was one of the apps that had the biggest influence on my decision to get this bit of kit. I've now got it installed, along with NET3.5 and CHT editor. (salute)
xprav said:
Hello everyone,
I got my new T8585 last Saturday. Had a hard time sync contacts from Outlook 2010 (64-bit), finally found that it is not possible and had to install outlook 2007 and then do the all importing exporting and sync. Finally was able to get that done yesterday and have all my contacts moved to HD2.
Still not sure how to feed in the aniversary/bday reminders as i was always using Nokia before this device.
Have not customized anything yet, just able to configure the WiFi and 3G and copy contacts.
Also my vendor said that if I change ROM, my 1 yr warranty would be void. So not thinking about modifying ROM (1.48.720.2 an Radio 2.05.51.05_2).
I have noticed that the battery is really poor with this devide, specially if I keep the WiFi on. Are there any tweaks to modify the battery life?
Any suggestions to make most of this device will be great.
Thanks for all the help and advice.
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Welcome xprav. You've come to the RIGHT place to get the answers to all those questions! I had mine about a week, and am enjoying it immensely! I plan to mod the rom eventually, but I'm in no hurry just yet. There are plenty of tweeks and mods to try before you do that. I'd start with Cookies home tab & editor? Install NET3.5 to get it up and running first tho, and check in regularly for advice/guidance?
how do i install net 3.5 and where can i get the CHT editor from? will be great help, thanks
i would also like to know that why CHT Editor is so important, looking for the same on google too