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MSN Messenger not working, ROM upgrades

dear all,
i have a prototype XDA Exec that's finally decided to give me a problem i can't seem to fix. i can't sign into MSN messenger anymore on it.
when i sign in it'll popup a message saying "Logon to MSN Messenger Service failed because the service is not responding. Please try again later." However it will sign out my already-connected to messenger desktop. however Hotmail seems to work fine. It's just messenger that's not working.
i've tried using another device and i can sign in just fine, so from my point of view it's obviously a problem with the aged version software i have. there's two things i can think of to resolve this. 1. update the ROM and get a newer version of the MSN messenger software which will hopefully work. 2. my version of Pocket MSN comes with an extra tab after "Switch User" under options called "Dogfood" which allows the option of logging and alteration of HTTPS and TCP server. if i could get the new working server addresses then maybe my problem'd be gone. i've been using session.mobile.msn.com for my HTTPS server and services.mobile.msn.com for my TCP server since last september and all's been fine till about 3 weeks ago. i have a feeling they've changed the address sometime in the past month or so?
does anyone have any other solutions or the abovementioned settings for me to try?
okay say i have to take the ROM upgrade option, i have a little problem, both with hardware and software. hardware wise, my prototype unit is from the early design stages, and the keyboard layout is a little different. can i remap the keyboard according to what it currently is? or do i have to apply tacky looking little labels so i can remap myself to the new keyboard? software wise, i have trouble finding something to backup my SMS that i can restore to the unit later when i'm done updating the ROM. also i'm a little worried that production ROMs may possibly not work in my device, can i backup my ROM before i upgrade?
i can upload a photo of the keyboard if any of you need it..
i've tried looking thru wiki and the forums with little success. i found a ROM backup utility @ wiki but i'm not sure if it works with WM5, as it was uploaded @ Jan '05, long before WM5 was even announced. nor is there any info about it working with WM5 or not.
thanks to anyone who can give me any thoughts on this.

I had a problem very similar to this after I upgraded my ROM recently and got the same error messages. I even posted a topic here but the answers I got didn't solve my problem.
Luckily one day, I tried to randomly sign in and couldn't so I tried something different. Under 'Options' scroll to the switch user tab and switch user and sign out completely. Also, on the SMS tab, make sure SMS forwarding to cellphone is unchecked. If asked to confirm, then hit yes and go ahead and sign out. On the Today screen try signing in again.
That should work for you hopefully, as it did the trick for me.
Let me know if you are able to download an upgraded version of Pocket MSN or MSN Messenger.
Good luck!

unfortunately i haven't had as much luck with signing out completely, tried it twice already, hasn't done anything to help~
i've tried looking for an updated version of messenger with no luck either, i'm wondering if hacking the newer roms will find me a cab with messenger in it? and even if i do, will i be able to remove/uninstall the old messenger without having to hack into the ext. rom?

flyingcamelz said:
unfortunately i haven't had as much luck with signing out completely, tried it twice already, hasn't done anything to help~
i've tried looking for an updated version of messenger with no luck either, i'm wondering if hacking the newer roms will find me a cab with messenger in it? and even if i do, will i be able to remove/uninstall the old messenger without having to hack into the ext. rom?
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try this

I must admit that I also cant be done with this pocket msn lark.....
The standard messenger on my xda2s and previous ipaqs i had worked fine and very fast to type and send the messages and also to sign on... It also told us when someone was typing a message on the other end wich is something ive never seen on this one.
On this latest messenger built into the rom its just takes forever to sign on (when it does) and alot of the time just drop connection...specially on gprs... sometimes i just have to contain myselfe with frustration just not to do something silly to the exec since i know its not its fault.
@MWANG
What is this file supposed to do m8?
TIA
BR

I have a Wizard not a Universal but have the same problem since I upgraded to the leaked AKU 2.2 & 2.3 roms. With the AKu 2.0 rom Messenger was working fine...

Windows live mobile beta problem

Hi everyone,
I have recently installed the Windows Live Mobile, it was working perfectly but now it seems that there is a problem with the 'synchronise'.
When I click the synchronise option, the email can be synchronised, but not the Contacts & Email. It always fails. also, when you open the Messenger, it always no contacts online, but actually there are.
Anyone has any ideas of this?
Thx in advance...

The online contacts appear after ~ 10-20 sec. As for the sync, I do not know.

I have the same email sync problem. I figured it's because my perticipation is still pending for the offical beta enrolment. I downloaded the file from another source so I thought it maybe there server seeing that I'm not part of the beta program yet. Are you part of the beta program or did you do like me and get it from the forums?
My only compaint about this version is they still didn't fix the issue that when you sign in to messenger the first time it adds all your MSN Messenger contacts to your address book, which they are already there so now there are duplicates. I have there full contact card with all there details and now a second one that just has there email and messenger name. It should be smart enough to see that that email addresss and IM name already exist in my address book and link to it instead of creating another one.

Yeah I got the messenger from the froum also.
I have tried to login the Windows live mobile using another ID, it works fine, but just not mine.
I dont know...

I don't like how WLM mobile takes all your messenger contacts and automatically puts them into your 'contacts' on the phone, which ends up in my contacts folder in Outlook. That's horrible, I don't want the two mixed up and now I have no choice, mix them up, or don't use it?
Go delete them from my contacts folder in outlook, that deletes them from my messenger contacts as well!!
Pocket MSN never forced your messenger contacts to be placed or synced into your 'contacts'.

I got that problem too
wzf03 said:
Hi everyone,
I have recently installed the Windows Live Mobile, it was working perfectly but now it seems that there is a problem with the 'synchronise'.
When I click the synchronise option, the email can be synchronised, but not the Contacts & Email. It always fails. also, when you open the Messenger, it always no contacts online, but actually there are.
Anyone has any ideas of this?
Thx in advance...
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My messenger contacts suddenly appeared as offline. Strange. No reboot or relogon could fix it. They could IM me but I could not contact them. I suspect that this has to do with the beta, maybe they simply block old betas to force the legitimate beta testers to use the latest version.

Hi guys,
Can someone point me in the direction of this download? I registered with MS Connect but havent had anything back from them yet.
WLM works well on my N91 but i dont have it on my TYTN
Thanks

Same offline contacts problem here...

weelubo said:
Hi guys,
Can someone point me in the direction of this download? I registered with MS Connect but havent had anything back from them yet.
WLM works well on my N91 but i dont have it on my TYTN
Thanks
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Doubt you'll hear anything from them, I registered a few months ago and for some reason their registration system was TOTALLY cocked up, so I ended up with a mangled registration and they point blank refused to offer me any useful help.
So now I can log into MS Connect, but I can't see the right live beta tests to join them properly... It sucks. Guess I'll just have to wait on this one.

is the latest WLM on the FTP i couldn't find it? can somebody mirror it somewhere?

RUN 2 hotmail accounts from one device

I don't know if this has already been noticed but if you've got windows live on your device you can also have pocket msn running aswell but dont wanna type up a howto just incase its already done any1 want to know how

is this really possible ?

prettierwendead said:
I don't know if this has already been noticed but if you've got windows live on your device you can also have pocket msn running aswell but dont wanna type up a howto just incase its already done any1 want to know how
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What do you mean by, "Got windows live on your device"? Is there an app, or are you just using Internet Explorer to browse to http://mobile.live.com
Rob

yes it is possible
@dny238: you can get windows live mobile for wm5 by searching the forums or form the ftp
@mrmrmrmr: indeed it is possible as i have it on mine
how to: ok i have only tested this on the htc AKU 3.3 test rom but it worked and it seems to left poket msn installed after installing windows live
basically all i needed to do was to enter the windows folder of my device and found a file called INSTMSGR with an msn messenger icon it loaded msn messenger (the old one that came with the device) and pocket msn appeared again in the start menu
please leave feedback on whethere this worked for you tell me your rom version aswell so i know which ones it willl work on and which ones it won't
will post screenshots as soon as i have time

i suppose using http://mobile.live.com you could have three email addresses going if th need be

Hey a bit side tracking but just want to point out, I've been trying windows live (the app version) on my SPV M3100. And basically it blows pocket msn, the web based Live and in fact any other messenger app out of the water. Its so easy and functional. First time MS got something right in a long while.
Just wish my wifi connection didnt cut off every time the phone went into sleep mode.
If you aint got Windows Live Messenger get it now.
( I should ask MS to pay me for the free promotion)

even easier
after fiddling with my old charmer I found an easier way to do it as the other method didn't work
go to windows folder, start menu, programs and set it to show all files the poket msn icon will apear but still won't appear in start menu so just copy and past a short cut to the same folder and voila poket msn and windows live at the same time and this does work
great if you have a personal and business email accounts and you want to moniter them both

prettierwendead said:
@dny238: you can get windows live mobile for wm5 by searching the forums or form the ftp
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I found the download from here...
h**p://ppcwarez.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4343&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=90

Yeah, butt kickn
This app fixes all the issues I have with PocketMSN's email sync. Yeah!! Thanks much.
Rob

Live Messenger problem

I have got the Touch yesterday. Everythings work finde except the windows live messenger getting some troubles.
Live messenger could not show any people in the ONLINE list after first time logon. I 've reconfigured my msn account, without any problem at first time.
but... the problem happened again. Any idea?

Yessssss, I haven the same problem : no contact and error message !!!!

There's a new version of the messenger client, linked on the hermes general forum.
The new client works fine.

@ bencassie Can you copy/paste this link please?

1st search result on google for "xda developers new messenger" and you get a post with this link -
http://rapidshare.com/files/24689015/Windows_Live_for_Windows_Mobile.rar

What's the lastest build of WLM?
My Touch comes with 10.6.0026.2700... getting "None online" problem.

Can anyone provide a .cab file? (I don't have any windows installed)
Thanks,
Max

Still have the no contact online problem.. anyone has a solution? thanks

lewisleung said:
I have got the Touch yesterday. Everythings work finde except the windows live messenger getting some troubles.
Live messenger could not show any people in the ONLINE list after first time logon. I 've reconfigured my msn account, without any problem at first time.
but... the problem happened again. Any idea?
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Are you guys have a Chinese TOUCH?
I had no problem with Windows Live.
If you have an English TOUCH,
I had no problem with Windows Live either.
Now, if you have an English WM6 but loaded a Chinese OS on it, then it may or may not work (mine didn't) with Windows Live.
Windows CE just like its damn older sibling Windows, applications can run into conflicts; PAIN in the rear end.

I own a Dutch Elf, and the problem occurs here as well :-( No errors or anything, just no-one online. They can message you though, but you appear offline in their contact lists :-\
Edit:
Just installed the newer version of WLM, and now its working great

Can someone post the link for the latest WLM? The one I have on Touch is 10.6.0028.2700

Here:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WSEQT0ZN

If your touchs' MSN Messenger has problem showing online contacts, this version can fix it

Does this version install over the old one thus taking no extra storage space?

Yes, it will install over the existing but it seems that it does take more memory space...

No update necessary
I've found out that deleting your password in windows Live and login in Windows Live with another account and accepting the license thingies again it works like a charm. (long sentence, lazy today)

WLM Build 1400.CAB
When im trying to install this,
Im getting a error, about: you dont have the rights too install this blabla
Anyone knows what to do know ?

I have a french HTC touch and the problem is the same. the only way to be really connected is to configure the connexion on each time.
If i only ask him to connecte the touch seems to be connected but is not.
tr72

vaio said:
If your touchs' MSN Messenger has problem showing online contacts, this version can fix it
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THANK YOU!!!!!!!
NOW IT'S WORKING PERFECTLY. I DON'T NEED TO CREATE MY ACCOUNT EACH TIME.
TR72

what do i do with this .cab file ? lol :S i have a htc touch and its my first pda phone! eek.
and yes my contacts are no showing up in my messenger either. thanks

Windows live mobile fun :(

Hi
I got my HD2 yeasterday flashed it to 1.66 before I even put a sim in it and its been working really well. O2 even sent me a phone I could flash from HTC's website.
One is is that after maybe 1 hour or 4 hours windows live mobile will fail to connnet to msn and pull down emails. Restarting the phone is the only fix.
I have unticked the proxy setting just for it to retick when I click OK. Everything else will work fine just WLM will stop working.
Any ideas why and how to fix it as it is a very helpful feature?

Same, WLM is just useless. It will crash after about an hour starting by "the wireless network is currently unavailable" even if it is, at which point it's impossible to force it to disconnect, to close it, and it will hang task managers that try to enumerate the running processes so no way to kill it. After several long minutes it will finally say "you've been disconnected" stops hanging everything and can be closed, but relaunching it and trying to reconnect will only give a "network is unavailable" popup straight away before it even tries to connect. Usually it will cause lockups to other programs too in its wake, forcing a reboot.
I'd really appreciate a solution or alternative. Slick crashes with memory errors, IMPlus only manages to connect to msn half the time even if other protocols always work... I just can't find any msn client that actually works.

hmmmm guess ill have to wait for an update to appear. Meanwhile im going to unsync my email and do hotmail via pop3/imap.

Please post which version of WLM you are using (or is it just the one with the stock rom?).
I`m using an updated version and it's working flawlessly here (although it had problems syncing in the beginning).

OK:
try this one
http://rapidshare.com/files/333732216/WindowsLive.PPC2005_arm.cab
or
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=L4VOCVG1

ive tried the updated version from the market place and it still does it.
I have loaded your first link onto my phone and we shall see how it goes. I have noticed if i leave MSN signed in it seems to do stop syncing and when i sign out msn the email works again.

10.7.0061.0500.2000, which is cooked in the ROM i use (see below).
And they really could make longer version numbers...
OK, downoading yours now.

tried both of them and the fault still shows. I have created a post on the windows mobile forums which I hope MS will see and will get to the bottom of the issue.
Here is the post for those who wish to contribute: social.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/windowsmobile/thread/5c420f13-001e-42d6-924c-7385b0274221/ <<< Copy and paiste into your browser as im not allowed to post links yet.

i have the EXACT same prob! my life wud be SO much better if this prob didnt exist. its so frustrating i cant stand it anymore!!! come on ive solved EVERY prob on xda-developers somebody MUST knw the answer

I met the exact same problem. So I have to find a 3rd party IM software Beejive IM.
But it's pretty strange that in WM system, we even can't use MSN.
Hope some one could fix the problem.

chling said:
I met the exact same problem. So I have to find a 3rd party IM software Beejive IM.
But it's pretty strange that in WM system, we even can't use MSN.
Hope some one could fix the problem.
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does the nudge feature work with mobile msn.or do i need to update the version.where can i get the latest version of wlm

I don't use this software, but have you attempted to edit the registry?
EG what is the proxy it defaults to?
Whenever I install a clean ROM, I *must* go in the registry to HKLM/Comms/ConnMgr/Providers/(something)/(something)/Proxy and clear the key - otherwise youtube NEVER works.
The reason behind this is because everytime you load youtube, Youtube assumed ^that proxy was the one you needed, so it copied the value to HKLM/Software/HTC/Youtube/ProxyName, and nothing worked.
I'm assuming similar behavior is happening here?
So my question is: WHAT proxy is it automatically using?

It can't be a proxy issue, because as mentioned msn works, just that it will "crash" after about 1hr of use, and only then won't connect anymore until the next soft reset.

Hi there!
Same problem with windows love here. At best the service is reasonable....most of the time its just not!
Anyway; instead of just complaining I want to make it better and try the new version in the supplied link above. There is a notification however about deleting the older version existig on the phone before installing the new version. Question: how to delete the old version?? It's not in the programlist...
Anyone?

It asks if you want to uninstall, just answer "yes" and it does (or does not, but who cares, it does install the new one afterwards )
The one in the link was the same I already had though, so no help. I'm using IM+ lite now. Not perfect, but at least it works.

HD2
Ok i dont know if this is anything to do with this thread but got a hd2 but msn doesnt work on wi-fi? does anyone know how to get this fixed? it only works on Data
Thanks

Has anyone found a solution for this yet?

Just wondering, why dont you use the default mail client on WM(setup the mail account) and for messenger, use parlingo? I too had my run with Windows live messenger failing me. I actually did what i've typed and became a happier man. Maybe you like to try that?

i use only exchange email sync and that works perfekt. Lets me have gmail on outlook exchange. But it sux that we cant use a microsoft product full out on a windows phone, makes no sense. All rom cookers seem to given up on msn messenger. But setting hotmail only to sync "as ithems arrive" works great.

Yeah I use Palringo but WLM has much better visuals, ah well I'll give up on it aswell.