which rom is best ? - myTouch 3G, Magic General

hey guys, i have the evil hero 2.7 rom on my mytouch 3g and its lags alot. can anyone give a suggestion on which rom is best? ( as in fast)
could you give me the link to it.?
and my last question that always confuses me is that i have the 1.2.1 recovery and if i want another rom do i have to change the recovery image?

breezy169 said:
hey guys, i have the evil hero 2.7 rom on my mytouch 3g and its lags alot. can anyone give a suggestion on which rom is best? ( as in fast)
could you give me the link to it.?
and my last question that always confuses me is that i have the 1.2.1 recovery and if i want another rom do i have to change the recovery image?
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You have a really outdated recovery so get the latest Amon_RA recovery for you device.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=530492 (This link is for magics but you can find the device that you need in the first post)
I would recommend MLIGN Hero ROMs, KingKlick Hero ROM, or SenseHero. There is a little thing called searching so please do.

ok so i did some searching and found that using the 'better terminal emulator' is a faster way of flashing the recovery image but i have to pay for it....so is there another way? (by the way sorry for the questions i feel bad making you explain so much)

someonee.?

You can just use terminal emulator (free market download) to flash the recovery, but personally, I just do it through fastboot (if you have an engineering SPL you can too). No you don't need to change your recovery to change roms, but it's good to have the latest version (as of now, Amon Ra's 1.6.2 is the newest, check the link posted by UberMario).

ook so checked out some sites, it showed different ways on how to install MLIGN 3.3 so i just gave up and it was confusing. but i want to try this fast test 3.0 out instead. so i used sapping to put my phone back to 1.5 ( as in no roms or anything ). what should i do in getting fast test 3.0? ive checked some sites but they only show how to do on G1 not on a mytouch 3g. so can anyone give a link(s) on where to go to start out?

i tried searching some info but either the instructions werent for a mytouch 3g or the intructions werent clear. ( Most sites would be explaining the whole process in like 3 sentenses, its so dumb)

Go with Super D 1.9.3.

cyanogenmod ..the best balance of speed and stability...
also please please please read up a little more before you start flashing.. dont want to see you back here saying you have a bricked phone..
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Main_Page
more specifically see here (under HTC Magic)
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Main_Page#Upgrading_from_Vanilla:_Installing_your_first_mod
and since your running a mt3g make sure to follow the directions for 32B
if you cant follow that guide you shouldnt bother with custom roms..

look for "android terminal emulator" in market...it actually allows you to type numbers in the terminal!! (OMG!)
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.jackpal-androidterm-zxnC.aspx
and its free
CM is best

personnaly I found using android SDK the easiest of all since you can modify your phone directly from your computer. instead of typing on that little keyboard of android.

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Does anyone know how to update or upgrade and HTC magic from rogers

Im sort of new to android and dont really know much about these things but I want to upgrade my phone from crappy 1.5 to like Eclair or Sense UI or anything other than 1.5 (I hate it)
P.S.
I had a dream before and I tried to flash a rom and it bricked so is there like a Rom for the magic for rogers that is safe, like for sure?
Thanks
/\/!k said:
Im sort of new to android and dont really know much about these things but I want to upgrade my phone from crappy 1.5 to like Eclair or Sense UI or anything other than 1.5 (I hate it)
P.S.
I had a dream before and I tried to flash a rom and it bricked so is there like a Rom for the magic for rogers that is safe, like for sure?
Thanks
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Yes, you can root your phone. Try to include detailed information about your phone so people can give you specific information regarding your phone and even give you some links.
For example, use a signature such as:
Sapphire HTC Magic 32A
RADIO-3.22.20.17
ROM-CyanogenMod 4.2.13
RECOVERY-Amon RA v1.5.2H
THEME-n/a
LOCK SCREEN-default
SD CARD-8GB 512mb:EXT3 / 32mb LinuxSwap / Remainder Fat32
Okay thnx, so can u tell me any roms for the htc magic that are safe
All are safe. How exactly did you brick you're Dream...?
I flashed a htc hero rom and then i couldnt turn it on anymore or go to recovery, but I have another question do I need a special SPL to be able to flash roms or is any fine
Sense Ui for Rogers Magic
Hello Everyone,
Well since you want to know when your Magic will get the sense ui or hasn't gotten it yet is that they still are working on it. Check this link out: http://simflecks.com/?tag=rogers
The post is quite recent and even right now they still are going to release it. Things got delayed to the device problem of 911 not working with gps feature on.
Hmm.. this topic somehow doesn't seem to belong in the "Themes & Wallpapers" forum.
Better go to the General forum, or if you want support for a specific upgrade/rom you can go here and post in the desired update/rom thread.
Now, since you posted your question: if you want SenseUI running on 2.1 you'll have to wait a bit because the source or rom image is not available yet. There are some experimental roms available, but I doubt they are for everyday use (some things are still not working). You can however run vanilla 1.6 if you want a higher and stable Android version, but it won't come with SenseUI. Vanilla Eclair is also an option, but currently not as stable as 1.6 (same reason, no 2.1 source/rom image/drivers made available yet), but they are getting there.
u can have a sense ui running on 1.5, if you are only concerned with how it looks. Just flash the cursorsence rom, if u have 32a phone. ensure u dont have a perfect spl. If you did the rogers dream->magic switch, likely you have a 32a phone with 1.33.0010 perfect spl. you must get rid of this first.
here's some links to help you out as i did this process yesterday. took me a helluva long time.
Goldcard Method
Fix perfected spl using this goldcard
MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE RIGHT RADIO AND SPL!!!!!.
Radio and spl upgrade
Cursorsence
I have a Rogers HTC Magic. I haven't upgraded the SPL or the Radio. I'm currently running "[ROM] [32A] Android 1.6 Super Stable & Super Fast... [FEB 10th] Old Radio" for everyday use and it works great.
If your are really new at this, go to theunlockr dot com. Scroll down a little and you'll see a drop box called "Select a Category" select HTC MyTouch 3G/Magic, scroll down again. You'll see 2 video links for "How To: Root the HTC Magic in One Click!" and "How To: Load a Custom ROM on Your HTC Magic".
Good Luck
magicdroid said:
Hmm.. this topic somehow doesn't seem to belong in the "Themes & Wallpapers" forum.
Better go to the General forum, or if you want support for a specific upgrade/rom you can go here and post in the desired update/rom thread.
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Agreed. Moved to General.

Some help for a newbie. CM mod help

So yesterday i decided to root my HTC magic 1.2 (my touch 3.55mm jack)
Root went well (had a small problem finding the correct sappimg but i found it,
Got Ra's recovery working as well and flashed an allmost stock fender rom/w root.
worked with no problems.
wanted to try 2.1 (eclair i think) So i flashed a str0kes rom. went easy looked cool but was too buggy for me (no usb teather! or wireless teather! or BT)
so then i wanted to try CM and i've had alot of trouble trying to understand the steps for flashing this rom, i was able to get it running (touch screen and all) but it was very slow
what i had try to do was just flash the cm mod update. (hell it worked)
then i came accross this
[Rom][32a][3.22] CyanogenMod 5.0.7-Stable Eclair 2.1 (05/28/2010) Mod Revision-2
Witch sounded awesome
I had no idea how to downgrade(i think i got close?!)
Or what i really had to do, i was able to get to the andriod screen but it hung right there. i tryed flashing the downgraded spl and rom but it refused to boot passed HTC magic screen. tryed flashing a diffrent radio and spl and it bricked (update fail ) so i have a new one on the way and my buddys to pratice on.
Can anyone help me/ explain to me how to install the oc'd rom?
Thanks in advance and sorry for you're time
If you would read, you'd notice that the newest release from Cyanogen himself says it will work with myTouch 1.2. You need the kernel for 32A, the ROM, and the Google add on. Flash them in that order and your good to go. I've been running it on a myTouch 1.2 that I rooted using instructions from unlockr and here and it works perfect.
I can't post a link, but the thread in under Dream development as Lean Mean Pastry Machine.
BTW, I would not recommend running 5.0.7 OC. 528 was FAST... Super D fast.
WEll i fugred out what lead to the bricking of my phone. apparently the downgrade guide i followed was for the older 32A models.... Dang...
So after rooting with a gold card i should flash the 32A kernel via ra's recovery then flash the cm mod?
(how do i install the google apps?)
I may try this out soon on my other my touch (brrowed my dads lol..till monday when my new one gets to me!)
The unlockrs guide was helpful, i pretty much memorized the rooting process
-creategold card
- transfer sappimg
update via hboot.
Flash radio and spl for touch screen.
Then flash amon ra's recoery rom correct?
After that i should boot into recovery flash the kernel then cm mod? should i reboot back to recovery after wards?
So can anyone hook me up with a little instruction?
Mod. edit: not dev related, moved to general
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Dionili420 said:
So can anyone hook me up with a little instruction?
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Cyanogens wiki has all the answers you need
Dionili420 said:
So can anyone hook me up with a little instruction?
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Cyanogens wiki has all the answers you need

So, I purchased a MT4G. Now what?

Just purchased (again if you will, lol) a MT4G...if you read my other thread, you'd know I'm a total noob to Android, having had an iphone since the first one was able to get unlocked. So, I'm behind the times on these.
What do I do first? What are the things I need to do? Download? What are some other sites I should/need to know about? Enlighten me, please
bballcat03 said:
Just purchased (again if you will, lol) a MT4G...if you read my other thread, you'd know I'm a total noob to Android, having had an iphone since the first one was able to get unlocked. So, I'm behind the times on these.
What do I do first? What are the things I need to do? Download? What are some other sites I should/need to know about? Enlighten me, please
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First of all welcome!
well the number one site for all things android is XDA Developers so you are in the right place
if you want full customization ability, the first thing you need to do is root your phone. This will let you uninstall "uninstallable apps", and change almost every aspect of your phone. after doing this, you can install a custom recovery letting you do full backups (aka, nandroid). also rooting your phone with a custom recovery will let you flash new roms, which will let you change the complete android experience. flashing will also let you upgrade to the new 2.3 Gingerbread version of android.
Everything you need can be found here (the "everything" link i keep mentioning):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=866175
Rooting:
There are many ways to root. check the "everything" link for guides:
1. True Permroot and S-Off is the fullest root (what most people prefer, and also unlocks your phone to use with other companies sim cards.
2. Guide to permroot...the lighter version of the true permroot
3. visionary+, this is the easiest way to obtain permroot (identical to number 2 but is an app for easy accomplishment)
check out the guide in the "everything" link under the "rooting and s-off section" if you have trouble
Recovery 2.x.x.x (you will need 3.0.0.x if you want to use a gingerbread rom see further details):
To flash Clockwork Recoery (aka custom recovery), root your phone and download rom manager from the market, then click flash recovery. if this doesnt work, check the "everything" you need link for installing clockwork recovery through adb (adb is the command prompt delvelopment for android, the link on how to set that up is also in the "everything" link
Installing Recovery 3.0.0.x (for gingerbread/ CM7)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=919834
Rom Explanation: (not every rom is explained here, but the major ones are)
Iced Glacier: Same basic rom you have without the junk files and it is deodexed (optimized)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=844594
MIUI: A chinese rom ported to the mytouch 4g (two versions available, Gr8Gorilla and eVilD's, but both are the same basic thing)
evilD - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=874257
Gr8Gorilla - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=924610
CM6: Android without mySense or anyother manufacturer customizations, but has many user-demanded cusomizations. This is FROYO, aka android 2.2
DesireHD/Gorilla Sens port: This a froyo, Sense UI Port, this is pretty much the rom that comes on the HTC Evo
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=841036
G2 Port: this is just like CM6, but without any customizations
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877620
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=903295
CM7/Gingerbread: This is CM6, but on gingerbread. (my favorite )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=916930
I'm gonna follow this thread because I will be buying a MT4G soon as well... or the Vibrant...
@VibrantOwnr
THANKS! That will give me plenty to read about and go over on the train tomorrow!

[Q] new android user need help :)

hi there.
i got my legend 3 days ago
i got it from some guy that used it for a while, he told me that it has installed superuser whit it the phone can run normaly, including updates, reading every simcards etc....
now i've read that for legend is released 2.2 sw, but my phone is running on 2.1-update1
and dont show me new updates when i click to check for it...
so guys plss can some of you post me here a step by step tutorial what should i do
to get my phone running on froyo or gingerbread if its possible
ty in advanced
confused android user
There's already plenty of tutorials in Development / stickies, some are not stickied, so you might have to search a bit...
As for the update, best way for you check few ROMs and install via ROM manager since you are rooted... B0.7 is particulary good one
ok i manager to install cyanogenmod 6.1 on my legend works great
btw why i cant login my acc on XDA app in phone?
you can go to the market and download Rom Manager... my preferred way in managing rom. it can download rom too ;-), if you found new rom that you want to test other than the ones found in Rom Manager. download it and put it on the root of your sd card so that its easy to look for.
eg. Blay0's B 0.7 rom found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=866849
or
CM7 from here. http://download.cyanogenmod.com/?type=nightly&device=legend
and remember to Wipe Data and Cache if its a new ROM to avoid boot loop.
you can then use "Manage and Restore Backups" to jump between roms that you've backup or rename them to not get mix-up...
Have fun ^^

Is flashing a custom rom a good deal ?

Hey there,
im pretty happy with my phone, but sometime i feel like its some kinda bad to get apps for evey setting that htc did not provide in 2.2 (2.2.1 not available to me yet). Although i think enough "****" is running systemwise that noone needs.
So flashing to a custom rom seems to be an pretty easy thing if you
do it carefully and check all potential failure actions.
Will custom roms make the phone faster ?
To all that flashed yet: Do you regret it or is it like the best thing you can do ?
Do i lose any important functions of my phone ? Are the roms stable and working good actually ?
Thanks !
mydanny said:
Hey there,
im pretty happy with my phone, but sometime i feel like its some kinda bad to get apps for evey setting that htc did not provide in 2.2 (2.2.1 not available to me yet). Although i think enough "****" is running systemwise that noone needs.
So flashing to a custom rom seems to be an pretty easy thing if you
do it carefully and check all potential failure actions.
Will custom roms make the phone faster ?
To all that flashed yet: Do you regret it or is it like the best thing you can do ?
Do i lose any important functions of my phone ? Are the roms stable and working good actually ?
Thanks !
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Having been running Custom Roms since I had my HTC Magic, I would heartly recommend them to most users, It's all about what you want from your phone though. If you are unhappy with all the bloatware installed and dislike sense it's an ideal way to streamline functionality, your DHD will, in most cases , run smoother than stock and should have at least comparable battery life. Currently I am running CM7 which gives me a stable gingerbread based rom, with a decent custom rom there should be no loss of functionality (even the FM radio works these days).
Custom ROMs are by and large an excellent way to keep your phone up to date whilst taking advantage of new features.
There is a risk of introducing new issues, but the support you get is a million times better than you'd get from the manufacturer, and new updates are usually a couple of times a week rather than a couple of times a year.
The main risk, I find (at least from my Windows Mobile days) is that some ROM developers tend to let things run away from them a bit and end up sandwiching so many new features and launchers and eye candy etc that it ends up slowing the phone down more than the stock ROM did.
So far I've not seen anything like that on recent Android devices, but with older handsets like the Hero there are some custom ROMs that are noticably slower than stock.
As long as you realise that there is a performance limit on your handset that will eventually be breached, then you will have a happy experience with custom ROMs.
Sounds promising. Really.
Im just irritated with the instructions.
My Desire HD is yet rooted.
But there is nothing about S-OFF or Radio OFF mentioned.
I remember most instructions with S-OFF and then Rom Manager or something.
But in this case - Whats the "Wipe" ? Normally means all stuff gets removed ?
Im missing detailled information, especially how installing the rom (via app ?)
and which version i need of my desire hd and more :/
Is this the safest way to flash it ?
And waht the hell means "vendor = ace" ?
Which vendor i "got" ? Im irritated or maybe i translate things bad from eng into ger
ps: guess i got it. htc ace was/is the codename for the desire hd device.
mydanny said:
Sounds promising. Really.
Im just irritated with the instructions.
My Desire HD is yet rooted.
But there is nothing about S-OFF or Radio OFF mentioned.
I remember most instructions with S-OFF and then Rom Manager or something.
But in this case - Whats the "Wipe" ? Normally means all stuff gets removed ?
Im missing detailled information, especially how installing the rom (via app ?)
and which version i need of my desire hd and more :/
Is this the safest way to flash it ?
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In my experience, the easiest way to get ENG S-OFF and Radio S-OFF would be to use jkoljo's excelent tools for S-OFF and Radio S-OFF. Here's a guide to flashing a new radio after you have done Radio S-OFF.
In the Radio S-OFF topic, there's also a small guide for flashing a new rom. If you need a more detailed one, you can find one here.
The next step is to find the rom that suits you the most, for example Android Revolution HD or LeeDroid. Download the ROM you like the most, then follow the aforementioned guide to flash it.
When you go from one rom to another, it's always reccomended to do a full wipe (unless it's just a rom update, then you don't always have to do it). In this case, it means that all your data and settings will be lost, except for the stuff you have on your SD card. You can use your Google-account to back up your apps and contacts and stuff, so do that if you feel you need it.
Hope this helps.
Other handy tools for data backup before migrating to a new rom are MyBackup Pro and of course, Titanium Backup.
Don't forget that contacts, market apps, and wi-fi passwords are synced to your google account by default, so no need for huge app backup files unless you have several apks from other sources..
The guides about S-OFF and Radio flashing posted above are detailed and relatively easy for anyone willing to experiment.
Just make sure that you check the instructions carefully, and double-check whatever you type in adb. The few minutes of making sure you're following instructions to the letter can save you hours of un-needed trouble and aggravation..
Also take note, different custom ROMs often recommend specific radios for maximum compatibility. This can make a significant difference in battery and wireless performance, specially with power hungry devices such as ours.
And above all, try different roms, see what you like best. Running the bleeding edge in Android can be as fun as it can be frustrating, so try to find the best suit for your phone and you, and enjoy it
So alright - I think i got it:
1. Root Device (Visionary)
2. Radio S-Off (Tool)
3. Radio Off (Tool)
4. Download a Radio.img (How can i find out which works best with the crom i want ?)
5. Use radio tool and reboot
6. Find a suitable custom rom
7. install and voila - there we go
Some questions that came up:
- Whats the "best" radio out there ? Is this as important as picking a good C-Rom ?
- HTC Sync preinstalls only means that i got it on my PC already, right ?
- And can all of those steps (except root) kill my device (=brick) or am i safe at the moment when Radio S-OFF and Eng S-OFF worked properly ?
- Nowhere is something about the VERSION i need ? So will a Desire HD 2.1, 2.2, 2.2.1 and 2.3 work with all the STEPS ?
Which custom rom is the best for me ? How can i compare all roms out ?
I only heard bout Android Rev HD, LeedDroid and CYMOD.
I want speed and i want a nice User Interface (but i guess i can reach that with ADW.Launcher.EX or Launch-Pro no matter how the Rom looks ?)
Thanks guys for all the answers already !
Would be so thankful if you can finish this with me.
PS: If i "brick" my device is there 100% no chance to unbrick it ?
Was possible with psp 2000 e.g. after some months. think so with desire hd too ?
1. In most cases, the developer of any given rom will reccomend a spesific radio to use with his/hers rom (like with LeeDroid or ARHD). Usually I'd just go for that radio, but as with so many other things in life, your mileage with a spesific radio may vary. While one user might report good signal strength and battery with one radio, another user might say the complete opposite. Anyway, stick to the radio reccomended by the ROM developer. I think that's the safest to do.
2. I've not even used HTC Sync since I bought my Desire HD, and I don't see the need to use it.
3. You're never 100% safe, but in my experience, once you're past the ENG/Radio S-OFF and your new radio is flashed, it's usually smooth sailing from there. But always remember that **** can happen, and you might be unlucky, so if you're unsure of something, read up on the subject as many times as you need for you to feel comfortable doing it.
4. As for what rom is best, that's really up to you I think. I've stuck to ARHD, and I find it fantastic, but you might like LeeDroid or CM7 better. Just look at screen shots, and try to figure out which one is most suited for you. And as you said, with AWD or LauncherPro, and the right wallpaper, any ROM can look beautiful
5. If your device is bricked, I don't know of any method of getting it back to life. All I can think of is send it to HTC, claim that it's dead, and hope for the best.
I flashed my first ROM yesterday just (leedroid 2.2.2). I havent really had much of a chance to explore the real benefits of it, but im already delighted that i did it. Just by being able to add custom themes, fonts and skins to get the phone looking much brighter and colourful. Also nice playing with overclocking the processor.
Took a bit of work to downgrade the software to get root, then a few problems getting s-off etc, but in the end it was all a good learning experience. Certainly dont regret doing it, just sort of regret that i put it off for so long. Looking forward to much playing about with different ROMS and customising them.
Just make sure you read the threads on here about rooting very carefully. And also read very carefull the instructions that come with each ROM. Leedroid recommended a radio that works best with his ROM, so i flashed that. Dont know if others do the same as i havent got round to trying any others yet.
Am i right that only with Radio S-OFF i will be also able to install custom roms,
but NO new radio versions ? Is the problem the compability (with croms) or is there any other reason for new radios than better connection/battery ?
Which users are fine with only Radio S-OFF ?
As i can read, RSPOFF is safer than ENGSOFF.
Also: the question about the VERSION is really making me moving.
Hope someone can explain me, why nowhere is mentioned something about it.
I remember 2.2.1 cant be rooted and 2.3 - so is this the explaination
(cause you cant go over step 1) ? or whats the point ?
mydanny said:
1. Root Device (Visionary)
2. Radio S-Off (Tool)
3. Radio Off (Tool)
4. Download a Radio.img (How can i find out which works best with the crom i want ?)
5. Use radio tool and reboot
6. Find a suitable custom rom
7. install and voila - there we go
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Once you've done Radio S-OFF (not sure what your step 3 is - seems the same as 2) then I'd recommend installing ROM Manager from the Market and ensuring you have either ClockWorkMod 2.5.1.3 (up to Android 2.2) or 3.0.0.6 (android 2.3) installed. This then allows you do do all your Nandroid backups and System wipes that you will need to before you flash a new ROM.
- Whats the "best" radio out there ? Is this as important as picking a good C-Rom ?
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As said, there is technically no "Best" radio - but the dev of a ROM will recommend a decent compatible ROM. You are welcome to try others but you may notice weaker signal or degraded battery life.
- HTC Sync preinstalls only means that i got it on my PC already, right ?
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It's useful for getting the right drivers on your computer - but probably not much else!
- And can all of those steps (except root) kill my device (=brick) or am i safe at the moment when Radio S-OFF and Eng S-OFF worked properly ?
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Not "Safe" but at least much more likely to be able to recover. You can still permanently damage it - but doing so would be pretty hard work!
- Nowhere is something about the VERSION i need ? So will a Desire HD 2.1, 2.2, 2.2.1 and 2.3 work with all the STEPS ?
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Generally the steps are the same throughout...though you'd be hard-pressed to find a DHD ROM on 2.1!
Which custom rom is the best for me ? How can i compare all roms out ?
I only heard bout Android Rev HD, LeedDroid and CYMOD.
I want speed and i want a nice User Interface (but i guess i can reach that with ADW.Launcher.EX or Launch-Pro no matter how the Rom looks ?)
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Read their respective threads and see what you like and don't like. That's what everyone else does. No ROM is "better" than the other.
PS: If i "brick" my device is there 100% no chance to unbrick it ?
Was possible with psp 2000 e.g. after some months. think so with desire hd too ?
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Depends how badly bricked it is! (see above)
To add the misstying under 2. or 3.
I meant:
2. Radio S-oFF
3. ENG S-Off.
What is ENG S-OFF in some easy words doing other than Radio ?
As i understood - without ENG S-oFF i cant install custom radio images, right ?
Means: New Roms, but maybe not the best compatible radios ?
Also: When installed Clockwork i can backup everything ?
Means a NANDROID backup i guess ?
I thought when i want to get back, i just need this Ruu Rom and
Set all Tools to S-ON ? So this Nandroid backup, whats that ? "Ruu" is the original rom and the "nandroid backup" is the system-backup/firmware/original radio.img?
Im just ab it irritated with all the words like rom, radio, firmware :/
Im so thankful for all the answers yet.
Never expected such useful answers, most forums full of guys that link
to other threads and do not really care. so until now - great work !
mydanny said:
Am i right that only with Radio S-OFF i will be also able to install custom roms,
but NO new radio versions ? Is the problem the compability (with croms) or is there any other reason for new radios than better connection/battery ?
Which users are fine with only Radio S-OFF ?
As i can read, RSPOFF is safer than ENGSOFF.
Also: the question about the VERSION is really making me moving.
Hope someone can explain me, why nowhere is mentioned something about it.
I remember 2.2.1 cant be rooted and 2.3 - so is this the explaination
(cause you cant go over step 1) ? or whats the point ?
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ENG S-OFF will allow you to flash rom's, Radio s-OFF will allow you to flash radio's as well (ENG S-off fools h-boot into believing it has radio s-off)
Radio S-OFF will not be reverted by flashing a new h-boot unlike ENG S-OFF.
Different rom's suit different people, seen as you are going to loose all your data falshing a custom rom, i would recommend flashing a couple and having a play around (leedroid and Coredroid etc have sense if that rock's your boat, Cyanogenmod is closer to vanilla android) as everyone has a different preference.
The Versioning of ROM's is a bit of a grey area all ROM's are based on an android release 2.1, 2.2.1, or even 2.3 etc but many have features ported to them from other release i.e stuff from 2.3 or even 2.4 may be present in a 2.1 based ROM so look for a rom with the features you desire rather than relying on the base. But some ROM's require different instructions for flashing i.e Gingerbread ROM's require clockwork recovery version 3.x this is due to different file systems used, to be safe make sure to read the first couple of entries in the ROM thread in the development section before flashing as it will list any special requirements or steps that need taking prior to flashing.
ghostofcain said:
ENG S-OFF will allow you to flash rom's, Radio s-OFF will allow you to flash radio's as well (ENG S-off fools h-boot into believing it has radio s-off)
Radio S-OFF will not be reverted by flashing a new h-boot unlike ENG S-OFF.
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Maybe im just reading it wrong, but do you mean that Radio S-OFF has all the features that ENG S-OFF brings PLUS the radio flash option ?
Then why all the instructions say, i need both (ENG and Radio) ?
Generelly, you recommend only ENG S-OFF or will the most good Custom Roms not work that good with the original radio version from htc ?
And Gingerbread Roms need Clockwork 3.X - But Clockwork 3.X needs Desire HD with 2.3, as i got told above.
And i cant upgrad to this by using HTC Updater. I guess, i have to manually upgrade my original Firmware then, right ?
Complete guide in my sig (check out the dev forums, lots of them out there)
Radio s-off and eng s-off are 2 different things and you need both if you want to be able to flash a rom.
And yes, I love my custom rom more than I will ever love stock. Why? because it looks like the stock one but it's lightning fast and drains less battery. Oh, and I have better reception
mydanny said:
And Gingerbread Roms need Clockwork 3.X - But Clockwork 3.X needs Desire HD with 2.3, as i got told above.
And i cant upgrad to this by using HTC Updater. I guess, i have to manually upgrade my original Firmware then, right ?
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Gingerbread roms need 3.X, but you don't need Gingerbread to install it. I have CWM 3.0.0.6 but am on a FroYo ROM. All down to my own personal choice!
Also, yes. a Nandroid backup is an exact copy of your ROM (not your radio). So all apps, settings etc will be exactly the same when you restore it. You can't do this without a clockworkmod recovery.
ROM Manager interfaces with CWM and allows you better management of your backups and also gives you an easy way to upgrade your recovery without having to mess around in a terminal emulator or command window.
The relationship between Kernel, Radio (Baseband) and a custom ROM? So in theory, can you mix and match different version and combination, but there seems to be proven combination that works better, is that correct?
Base on what I am reading, they are can contribute to a faster, more stable, and a more battery efficient phone system.
wid0w said:
Complete guide in my sig (check out the dev forums, lots of them out there)
Radio s-off and eng s-off are 2 different things and you need both if you want to be able to flash a rom.
And yes, I love my custom rom more than I will ever love stock. Why? because it looks like the stock one but it's lightning fast and drains less battery. Oh, and I have better reception
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Nice Guide. Has everything i need.
Why i need both ?
In case i dont need/want a new radio version and ONLY a new crom,
i dont need the Radio S-OFF. Cause you say i need both ? Why ?
Maybe gimme a short answer to that.
Will be thankful !
wid0w said:
Complete guide in my sig (check out the dev forums, lots of them out there)
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For flashing under windows that is, the instructions here, whilst a little more complicated cater for all OS'es
ghostofcain said:
For flashing under windows that is, the instructions here, whilst a little more complicated cater for all OS'es
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Link not working.
Whats that ? Another guide ?
Whats the differ ? Oo

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