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Stylus pencil is Loose and comes out easily

I use the k-jam alot. and after taking the pencil out and back in again it has got so loose now that it usually drops out. any one else hade same problem and how did you resolve it?

I had same problem with my BA. I'm not sure the wizard has same retention tab, but if it does, then this works.
-Back up your data.
-Remove the cover you will find a small tab in the stylus channel intended to engage the notch cut into the stylus. Gently push the tab back into the stylus channel so that it will engage the stylus notch once again. Be careful if you push it too far it will break.
-Slide the stylus into the channel to verify that the tab again engages the stylus notch.
-Remove the stylus again.
-Apply a small dab silicone sealant (available at any hardware store) behind the stylus retention tab. This is the "V" shaped area between the tab and the case. Be sure to fill this entire area. When the silicone has cured it will become a spring with much better position memory then the original plastic tab had on its own.
-Allow 24 hours for the silicone to cure before inserting the stylus into the channel.
I believe this is more then a repair, it is an upgrade.
Good Luck,
N2O2

Thanks for the tips.
I was just thinking of what to do when i came acroos some bluetac .
I put some blutac in the hole were the stylus goes and pushed the pen in. and it was a miracle !!! The stylus stayes in with a good hold and it comes out clean with no bluetac on it.
whe the bluetac trys to come out it has no room coz the stylus filles the space so it stays in the edges and grips the stulus pen and keeps it from getting loose. .
problem solved !!

Nice Catch
I put some blutac in the hole were the stylus goes and pushed the pen in.
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Gave the Bluetac method a whirl on my K-Jam after the stylus starting dropping out. Works a treat..
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Nice Catch
I put some blutac in the hole were the stylus goes and pushed the pen in.
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Gave the Bluetac method a whirl on my K-Jam after the stylus starting dropping out. Works a treat..
Nice one.

Yes it does.
Easy and simple way of not opening or messing about with k-jam to void warranty.

I mean. you will not viod waranty this way, but will if you open the k-jam

one time around the stylus with some tape works great to.

But what happen if the blutac starts to ware off?

But what happen if the blutac starts to ware off?
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Then I'll pop the case :shock: , extract the bluetac and do the silicone mod.
I'd be surprised if it does wear off though. It's superb stuff that's saved me a few quid in the past when in rented accomodation - bluetac and tippex to create the illusion of undamaged walls :wink:

Can you please give me a hint what "bluetac" is or means ?

I have dismantled mine, and I can see why this is breaking - see my post regarding the sylus silo.
when the stylus is getting loose, when you are pushing it in do you "feel" it going further forward than it did before?
It is because the plastic tab is not strong enough to resist the pen, and you are now pushing it further forward than you did before.
This is what causes the stress on the plastic, and then the crack. This black plastic part is molded to the entire back of the phone.
I have fixed this by wedging some folded paper behind the black plastic clip, and it is back to normal. I was lucky - I had not stressed mine enough that the plastic had cracked.
I have taken some photos of how to get the back off, I will post them when I return from my business travel.
Jon

Can you please give me a hint what "bluetac" is or means ?
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Ignoring my [email protected] spelling (should be "Blutac"), it's this stuff: http://www.paperstone.co.uk/BrowseProductDisplay.aspx?ProductId=17307&CategoryId=579-580-594

I'd be interested in seeing the photos on how to dismantle.
It is because the plastic tab is not strong enough to resist the pen, and you are now pushing it further forward than you did before.
This is what causes the stress on the plastic, and then the crack. This black plastic part is molded to the entire back of the phone.
I have fixed this by wedging some folded paper behind the black plastic clip, and it is back to normal. I was lucky - I had not stressed mine enough that the plastic had cracked.
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I have now started collapsing the stylus before inserting it into the hole so it doesn't push against the end and only goes as far as the moulded plastic bit at the top.

just wrap a piece of tape around the stylus and it fits like a glove again.

leploep
This is only a temp fix, did that and after a week or two back to the stylus dropping out. I am waiting for the pics on how to get the back off and do a more permanent solution, you would think Imate would have caught this in their product testing phase before going to production.

sunseaker said:
I have now started collapsing the stylus before inserting it into the hole so it doesn't push against the end and only goes as far as the moulded plastic bit at the top.
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I've always done this as it does not seem to fully shink other wise... seems Ok so far.
marka2k said:
leploep
This is only a temp fix, did that and after a week or two back to the stylus dropping out. I am waiting for the pics on how to get the back off and do a more permanent solution, you would think Imate would have caught this in their product testing phase before going to production.
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Personally I think on the bottom of the phone is daft in the first place... or is this just me ?
Terran

the pics are in the upload folder, called wizardpics.zip - the ftp upload attachment does not seem to be working?
to remove the top half I used a flat knife. It is quite resistant. You can see where the tabs are in the pic.
To remove the back completely, you need to remove the void sticker, and under there is a screw. there is also one opposite.
You will also need to remove the 2 screws at the bottom, one in the stylus channel, and the other on the opposite side.
then use a plastic splitting tool if you have one, or a credit card to work round the case.
you can see in the pics where this comes off.
You then want to re-enforce behind the stylus notch. I used a piece of folded card.

chakra said:
one time around the stylus with some tape works great to.
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where exactly are you putting the tape which end

i did the blutac thing but might have put too much in cos the grey plastic end i use to pull stylus out just broke!

How to disassebmble the Prophet?

I have an XDA Neo whose soft buttons haven't been working for quite a while and I cannot find a right moment to send it for repair. But I suspect it's the dust that has made its way beneath
But the bolts are so strange, I cannot unscrew them with anything - screwdrivers, knives I tried - nothing helps
Any suggestions?

this is easy you need a torx 6 screwdriver good luck

10x a lot

Look no further..
http://www.modaco.com/Changing-you-prophet-caseand33-t240109.html

Attention to side plugs...
Yes that's torx 6. It's rare but available in some stores.
But it's not over. There are some steps which need special care. Otherwise you may break some fragile parts of the body. I dismentled 2 times completely but i broke some plastic ears on the sides and the screws are not enough to come back to a tight fixing. Some spaces remian on the sides if you break the small ears while disassembling.
The steps, roughly:
1- Pull out battery, sim card.
2- Unplug upper rear cover (not necessary to unplg the antenna cover) starting from top, then bottom. Pushing 2 ears at left and righ side of the bottom is enough.
3- Unscrew 4 x torx6
4- Pull out front frame by unplugging side ears surrounding the whole frame but PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO KEEPING THE EARS UNDAMAGED. The frame is still connected to the board and the speaker. So separate it slightly, not too much.
5- Unplug the speaker unit by pushing its caoutchouc frame and slide it through the hole to free the rear frame. DO NOT ATTEMPT TO DISCONNECT THE SPEAKER SOCKET. IT'S DANGEROUS AND NOT NECESSARY.
6- Pull out the camera. Its body is not fixed but only pushed into its frame. Pay attention while disconnecting its cable.
7- Unplug the keypad socket by pushing upside from sides. It's fragile but not too difficult.
8- Unscrew 4 little screws. One may be masked by a spacer. You can push it the access the screw.
9- Unplug the AC connector if necessary. Not screwed. So, you can get manually.
10-Pull out the keypad towards the rear of the phone. It will not come very easyly. Find the right angle. It's not necessary to pull out the white cover but you can do this if you want.
I write this using what i remember. I may forgot some small details but the order should be correct.
Finally don't use battery screwdrivers on a/m screws. The torque will be too strong and may destroy the plastic holes. You can unscrew but don't screw.

Thanks a lot man. I know it's dangerous, so want to be extremely careful. But some people told me that doing this can break my warranty because some of some manufacturer sticker being damaged. Is that true?

Yes, Warranty Voids If Dismantled
Yes indeed. One of 4 torx screws is covered by a warranty label. You have to destroy it to unscrew.
I did it because i never trust warranty issues on PDAs, at least in my country. Mine was fallen on its upper left corner and the body has taken a good crash make-up! It's 100% sure that u have no warranty because of user fault.
So, i dismantled and tried to repair the cover like a garage man works on a crushed car. Result: Not bad. Better than nothing. Some painting has gone. I add a silicon case on the device and everybody's happy.

Hi. Can anyone help me identify where a part comes from? I took apart my Prophet because of the amount of dust it in and the very irregular digitiser calibration. This is much better but I seem to have a piece left over and I don't know where it should go. I think it must be something to do with the phone antenna as I have very poor telephone reception since.

can u post a pic of the top end of the circle? can't really make out what it is. didn't have this problem when i opened my case

Hi, thanks for taking an interest. Here's another couple of shots.
Richard

i'm kinda guessing that it's the external antenna? u know the 1 with the rubber circle at the back of the pda? can't seem to find my tools atm to see what it actually is...

Yes, I am sure you are right - I will get my tools out and have another play with it. I may find an obvious place where the antenna goes which will fit the part in.

Well I feel pretty silly now. I took the Prophet apart and realised that this part was just a mount which the long screws screw into. One mount had come loose so I superglued it in and the screw firmly screws in now, making the whole device hold together better.

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Hi, thanks for taking an interest. Here's another couple of shots.
Richard
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i think that part is below the antenna cap

Richard Fantom said:
Well I feel pretty silly now. I took the Prophet apart and realised that this part was just a mount which the long screws screw into. One mount had come loose so I superglued it in and the screw firmly screws in now, making the whole device hold together better.
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hahahah... well, it did look like the ext antenna part to my eyes... heheheh glad you know what it is now

Does your battery cover jump off

Mine does all the time. Its a major week point of the phone. Apart from that and the delete key in Opera (will install the beta of 9.5 to resolve this) the phone is near perfect.
It literally jumps off the phone in my pocket, I put it really nicely on the desk and when I pick it up, it has jumped off again. Hold the 4 corners and move one really (i mean really) slightly and the cover pops off.
The plastic clips where I have put the back on continuously are starting to wear down!
Anyone else get this or is it just me?

Yes mine did when I first got it. Easy fix though.
Take the back cover off, where the two interior clips are housed in the cover ( bottom part of cover lined up with the indents on the phone to allow removal of the cover) give it a good squeeze to bend the metal cover in by pushing both sides.
Worked a treat for me.

Thanks, you have made me look stupid
Works a treat!!

While we're on the subject of battery covers, do you guys have any idea what's up with the metal contacts making connections to the battery cover? Is it some kind of grounding thing? maybe an extensible connection of the antenna, or using the batt cover as wifi antenna or something? Hah, but really, it seems odd.
Good tip though, this thing is stuck on there now!

Nope, but the tip is good.

Jump? Mine has a little 'bump' in the middle, a slight outward curve. Took it to 2 service centres and they said it's normal.

matthewf01 said:
While we're on the subject of battery covers, do you guys have any idea what's up with the metal contacts making connections to the battery cover? Is it some kind of grounding thing? maybe an extensible connection of the antenna, or using the batt cover as wifi antenna or something? Hah, but really, it seems odd.
Good tip though, this thing is stuck on there now!
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Is it to know if the cover is off?

xpear-e-ah said:
Yes mine did when I first got it. Easy fix though.
Take the back cover off, where the two interior clips are housed in the cover ( bottom part of cover lined up with the indents on the phone to allow removal of the cover) give it a good squeeze to bend the metal cover in by pushing both sides.
Worked a treat for me.
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Sorry could you explain a little more...i'm a bit blonde haha. The clips on the actual battery cover? where do u bend the metal...like forward, inwards? etc thanks
edit: Nevermind, after taking it off a few times it fits fine now

zoelucker said:
Sorry could you explain a little more...i'm a bit blonde haha. The clips on the actual battery cover? where do u bend the metal...like forward, inwards? etc thanks
edit: Nevermind, after taking it off a few times it fits fine now
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upside down, your battery cover looks, in profile, roughly like this:
|____|
You want to bend the sides in, on the end where it says SONY ERICSSON, in this manner:
--> /____\ <--
(Don't bend it to such an extreme degree as depicted though, of course! Just an indication of what direction you're bending in...)

matthewf01 said:
upside down, your battery cover looks, in profile, roughly like this:
|____|
You want to bend the sides in, on the end where it says SONY ERICSSON, in this manner:
--> /____\ <--
(Don't bend it to such an extreme degree as depicted though, of course! Just an indication of what direction you're bending in...)
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I had the same problem. This is how you solve it.
Dont just bend it in the MIDDLE or else you'll deform the entire cover.

xpear-e-ah said:
Yes mine did when I first got it. Easy fix though.
Take the back cover off, where the two interior clips are housed in the cover ( bottom part of cover lined up with the indents on the phone to allow removal of the cover) give it a good squeeze to bend the metal cover in by pushing both sides.
Worked a treat for me.
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^^^
This guy is a superstar

2 minute lanyard tape hack - drop protection

Something I always liked about my Kaiser was having a lanyard attached to it. I did this after dropping it a couple of times due to it slipping out of my hand.
As the HD2 is even more slippery in my fingers and probably more likely to shatter or break on dropping, I was disappointed that there was no lanyard hole.
I contemplated drilling a hole in battery cover but didn't have a drill. So I've duct taped a lanyard onto the back, a la the attached pic.
First I lay the lanyard ring on the back and threaded duct tape through it, locking the lanyard ring to the phone. Then I layered a bit more duct tape on top to give it some strength.
It may look a bit messy and I could have done it neater. At the end of the day it will (hopefully) stop me dropping and breaking a £500 phone which I'm happy about. It's also surprisingly strong and will give an indication before it eventually gives way. Takes about 2 minutes.
Edit: Ugly duct tape method replaced by neater black tape version.
Edit2: Video howto added: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yL3owsWT3E4
Disclaimer: If you try this and end up dropping your HD2 anyway, I accept no responsibility!

That could be the worst monstrosity to a HD2 Ive ever seen.

Haha, you may be right. But I don't have a mobile phone to look pretty, I have it to use it and rely on it to be working when I need it, not broken into 100 pieces on the floor.

Here's a neater black tape version. Not sure it will be as strong as the first though.

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Here's a neater black tape version. Not sure it will be as strong as the first though.
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looks sooo fragile , also u should try take it to a gravire-er if u dont have a drill and make a hole suitable

Job done no messing!
I can't understand why HC didnt add a lanyard bar and at the end of the day your solution will work and probably save your phone one day.
Nice graduated background on your photo and good image quality, what camera did you use?

It's the Panasonic FT1. A little waterproof compact.
Combining duct tape as the first layer and then black tape over for neatness is the best solution so far.
I've also considered super gluing the lanyard into the 3.5mm jack, but know I'd regret doing it straight after!

well, you guys aint the first to do this.
i invented a similar design a few weeks ago, mine used a 1" belt, meaning it can be strapped to your waist any time you like, safe as houses and pretty cool aesthetically

Final version
After a bit of testing, this is the final method I will use.
Some folded black tape under the battery cover. The battery cover adds extra strength to the tape and it looks so much neater than the Duct tape.

to be honest, that is just ugly. sorry.

I also missed such a whole for it, as I also did that with my Kaiser.
Now I sticked to a Silicon/Plastic Combi Case

why dont you get a jelly case or something like that and you can make hole in it. tape will hold fora few days only

I'm going to get a case as well I think. But the tape solution outlined which is partly under the battery case will last a lot longer than a few days.
The tape should only be under any pressure if you're about to drop your HD2, which won't be that often and then the weight isn't that great.

I think it's a great idea, and the 'under battery cover' mod (V 1.3? ) looks fine. I'm going to try copying it so I can clip it to my handbag, but with fishing line for the loop.

Mariad said:
I think it's a great idea, and the 'under battery cover' mod (V 1.3? ) looks fine. I'm going to try copying it so I can clip it to my handbag, but with fishing line for the loop.
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Yeah, I agree. The third version looks nice and clean! The only question is: What did you attach the tape to? To the cover itself? Because I wonder how much strength it requires to pull off the cover and if that wouldn't happen if the device falls...
EDIT: I love how you labeled this a "hack"!

I attached the tape to the plastic under the cover, where the sim card is. I'll put a quick video together to illustrate.
I left it hanging by the lanyard last night, for about 7 hours, 7 feet in the air, no probs. It's not intended to be pulled as hard as a regular lanyard loop may be, but for a precaution if the phone slips from your hands. And then it will be fine.

And here's the not very good howto video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yL3owsWT3E4

I dont mean to jinx you or anything, but the piece of string from the lanyard could easily split the single layer of duct tape where it's folded.. that's going to be where the weak point is....especially considering the weight of the HD2. It's not going to matter how many pieces of tape you've got under the batter cover.
Now if you were to have your HD2 on a desk or in your pocket, the temptation of grabbing it by the lanyard will be there... or if someone else decided to yank the lanyard.....
I'd suggest trying that method of attachment on something of a similar weight and shaking it around for a bit to see how the duct tape handles.
Remember... the HD2 screen is thin glass... One drop on a hard surface or if it lands at the wrong angle, it'll be time to order a new one!

I've tested it by pulling far more strongly on the lanyard than it ever would be subjected to in real use. I was able to pull it hard about 20 times before the tape started to give way. By then it was visibly starting to tear away, so you should have a good warning before it breaks. It will perfectly suit my needs anyway and I might try doubling the tape up for more strength next. Also, I think this could be improved by using even stronger tape.

Very good on the last release.
Great idea, man.
I'm going to try, but I've only two left hands....
Pink strap should be nice too ;-)

Cleaning the speaker grill....

Ok I'm sure you all like to keep your HD2's looking as clean and shiny as i do, however I've noticed a bit of fluff and dust collecting in the earpiece speaker grill. I was just womdering if anyone had found a quick and simple way of cleaning it? I've tried cotton buds, sellotape and air dusters but it wont shift!
Before you suggest it I've already considered shrinking myself down to microscopic size (like that 80's movie with Dennis Quaid) and removing it by hand but thats not very practical.
Cheers.

150 psi out of my air compressor works well

Il remember that next time Im putting some air in my tyres. Cheers.

I use one of the girlfriends unused blusher brushes, and I keep it in the case all the time. A thick brush works best, you can grip the tip and give the grill a brisk brush.

Try one of those little usb vaccum cleaners. They're only a few bucks on ebay and should do the trick.

Yes, very annoying with all the crap that collects in the ear piece speaker grill...

Thanks guys...... gonna go and raid the missus' make up bag for a little brush.....
USB vacuum cleaners......lol thats a new one....

usb vacuum cleaners are just a geek collectable (I would know, I have one sitting on my desk anc passively collecting dust since at least 3 years ago as it is useless for any other use )... anyway, @you who suggested pressurized airflow... don't you worry that it will somehow damage the speaker membrane?
I'd rather go for a very delicate brush

ephestione said:
you who suggested pressurized airflow... don't you worry that it will somehow damage the speaker membrane?
I'd rather go for a very delicate brush
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I EXACTLY thought the same thing...

Paintbrush! Little one.

A quick blow job works for me

lakeland said:
A quick blow job works for me
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A 'blowjob' will work for me as well
Im using small paiting brush

Also while I think of it, I use one of those super-duper 'Xlerator' hand dryers at work on occasion to blow some of the dirt out of it.

Dont use a Dyson vaccum cleaner tho I sucked 4 keys off my laptop and what a pain replacing those

Thanks again folks, some strange and ingenious solutions indeed. The small brush is doing the trick but theres still some crap actually lodged in the grill I can't shift. Oh well..... at least I haven't smashed the screen or anything serious ....

This cyber clean gel works well for picking dust out of the ear slot and the USB socket.
http://www.dooyoo.co.uk/pc-accessories/cyber-clean/1348285/

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I wouldn't use that!
I did this once at work on an old phone, and as you know, water likes to form in the pipes when it's not been used in a while in compressors, also you get tiny bits of dirt in the pipes which you're blasting out and through the grill like a soft sand blaster!
Anyway, didn't even notice the small amount of water blasting out until the phone stopped working and i took it apart again to see the whole board was rusty.
Wondering if it was the air line that did it I fired it at a wall for about 30 seconds and saw it forming on the wall and running down.
A quick empty of the compressors drain valve did the trick to stop the water, but I still wouldn't trust it now.
I use a sort bristled (unused) tooth brush on my HD2 now.

Try good old blu-tack.
That or use something like a pin to dislodge the bits then the brush to clear them.

A soft tooth brush may work.
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