I have searched before posting this.
What I want to do is to reload Winmobile 5 onto my TyTN WITHOUT the built-in apps like calendar, word, etc also being loaded in. I would like to load up the phone app but not anything else.
Can this be done please? If so how?
Thanks
WB
I'm not an expert...but think you could try to cook your own ROM; modify the existing WM5 ROM you have and remove all the things you dont want to be there....
I don't know if the existing tools posted in the forum could also be used to modify a WM5 ROM...but could give it a try if you want.
Regards;
Mablan
Mablan,
I was hoping it was a rather more simple process, such as using a special sequence of the bootloader to do this, rather than have to cook ROMS. Appreciate the thought though.
Anyone else able to throw some light on this question?
Thanks
WB
mablan said:
I'm not an expert...but think you could try to cook your own ROM; modify the existing WM5 ROM you have and remove all the things you dont want to be there....
I don't know if the existing tools posted in the forum could also be used to modify a WM5 ROM...but could give it a try if you want.
Regards;
Mablan
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I am afraid most of the programmes are part of the operating system and you will not find a rom here customised to your specs, the last poster was right if you want a stripped out rom to your specs you had better get cooking that is the only way. Look on the Wiki under Hermes for the info you need if you are into D.I.Y.
Guys,
Thanks for the info. Ah well, looks like I'm either off to find a cooked ROM or I live with what I have got.
Cheers
WB
Hi everyone i had the touch it 2.3 rom in my t-mobile wing. I like it for a while because of the cube But i see no point of it SO I SWITCH back to its original t-mobile rom. I search around for simple roms and i found PDAVIET.. I dont really know much about it but i know its a 3rd party rom.. The only things is that i cannot find one that doesnt have the cube in it. Any suggestion guys!
You could make your own its sorta fun if you follow the guideline. I Tried them all and decided I just wanted a trimmed stock rom. I removed the VoiceCommander and My5Fave and a few other things. Applied a the 4mb pagefile mod and I'm very happy. Don't get me wrong all the popular ROM's are extremely well built and highly functional. But I like my system simple and not cluttered with more than I use. I just backup my favorite cab files as Read Only on my memory card and install them as I need them.
PDAViet has the cube...
Ok, I have a solution for you. Try Open Touch here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=347057
There are two versions (with and without cube) and both are very nice, easy and simple install, nice interface, no big issues to worry about. It is based on ITJE's 2.3 ROM, which in turn I believe is the same a stock ROM, only modified! Good luck.
I'm looking for clean WM 6.1 ROM - i.e. no 3-rd party applications included - just as it is being shipped.
I want to customize it myself.
Hi osavioro,
I am working in a clean rom WM6.1, however it is half difficult to obtain aid this way…. it would be made use to cooperate?
I am constructing one based in the ROM of the SDK of the MS…
I'd love a clean install as well. I appreciate all the work the cookers do, but every 6.1 ROM has something I'd like to remove but can't. Unfortunately I don't have the skills to cook a vanilla ROM for myself.
I just use my Trinity for calender, contacts, phone and GPS navigation.
yeah me too
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i wish i can read vietnamese
me too
LastMile said:
I'd love a clean install as well. I appreciate all the work the cookers do, but every 6.1 ROM has something I'd like to remove but can't. Unfortunately I don't have the skills to cook a vanilla ROM for myself.
I just use my Trinity for calender, contacts, phone and GPS navigation.
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me too You can count me in guys. I would like to help to produce a clean 6.1. I already have some attempts on 19206 and 19701 builds.
This is my current rom and I like it a lot is pretty clean and stable,I don't lose my email, wifi settings.....give it a shot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=364972
I would help ... but unfortunately I do not understand a bit about cooking ROMs.
Even more unforunately is that I don't have any spare time for learning, although it is quite interesting.
I am working to only create a clean ROM - WM6.1 with drivers for the P3600. Already I tried to get aid through the forum however I was not answered. I am using my PDA for the tests. As soon as possible I will be publishing a ROM Beta for tests. If possible, still it would like aid in this process.
To generate the ROM I tried to disassemble some ROMs of the forum to understand, however its creators had placed some protections, thing that I find that he goes against the principles of the cooperation.
I placed some topics questioning on what I would have to make and was not taken care of. For the S200 I found a ROM clean (Korand 3,1 - thanks!!! ) how I could work and transform into what I wanted, already for the P3600 is difficult, the people they do not want to help nobody, they only want that I make a donation!
I understand "hard work" that it is to generate a ROM, but I find that the knowledge the respect could be shared.
Thanks for all!
I just recently got his phone and i was wondering What is a rom, what does it do and how do you get a new one. What would be the point of getting a new one?
I also was wondering if anybody had any great freeware that combined a bunch of programs into one. Im looking for a simple battery meter (im using LvmTopBat)
I need a program for AIM other than octro talk, I Also need one for threaded messaging. I was using Palm_threaded_SMS but it had some glitches on my phone. I was usuing Minimo but it seemed to freeze alot so does anybody know of any good tabbed browing web browsers? i also wanted a program to free up any unused memory on my phone. Is Oxios Memory anygood?
And if anybody has used UI Tweaker Could anyone explain to me what each selection so i know what im changing the color of. Thanks for any help i get.
Custom ROMs are usually a lot more stable and perform much better in different aspects. There are programs for almost anything, you just need to search for them
Dmarsh508 said:
I just recently got his phone and i was wondering What is a rom, what does it do and how do you get a new one. What would be the point of getting a new one?
I also was wondering if anybody had any great freeware that combined a bunch of programs into one. Im looking for a simple battery meter (im using LvmTopBat)
I need a program for AIM other than octro talk, I Also need one for threaded messaging. I was using Palm_threaded_SMS but it had some glitches on my phone. I was usuing Minimo but it seemed to freeze alot so does anybody know of any good tabbed browing web browsers? i also wanted a program to free up any unused memory on my phone. Is Oxios Memory anygood?
And if anybody has used UI Tweaker Could anyone explain to me what each selection so i know what im changing the color of. Thanks for any help i get.
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if you install the latest DCD rom 3.2.5 and radio 3.42.50... you will have threaded SMS. It also allows you to use the internal GPS. Go to the upgrades forum... and READ! The WIKI on how to is in my signature as well as links to the latest rom and radio. Good luck!
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if you install the latest DCD rom 3.2.5 and radio 3.42.50... you will have threaded SMS. It also allows you to use the internal GPS. Go to the upgrades forum... and READ! The WIKI on how to is in my signature as well as links to the latest rom and radio. Good luck!
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the wki how to link does not seem to work and i read a bit about this new rom and multiple people have said its slower than stock. also what is rev-a. does that have something to do with free tethering? sorry if this is a stupid question. Im just really new to all this.
also what is the differnce between the rom and the kitchen. I notice there are two downloads. if anybody has the time or can tell me how to do it real quick i would just like a step by step on how to install this rom. Do i need to do a hard reset?
The kitchen is used to cook the ROM. The ROM is what you install on the device. First install hardspl on the device and then run the ROM of your liking. After the flash, be sure to perform a hard reset.
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also what is the differnce between the rom and the kitchen. I notice there are two downloads. if anybody has the time or can tell me how to do it real quick i would just like a step by step on how to install this rom. Do i need to do a hard reset?
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This wiki... Titan Recent should explain it all. It is step by step. The only thing you may have to substitute... if it hasn't been updated is the correct files. IE... 3.42.50 radio... and 3.2.5 rom. The kitchen allows you to select different programs that DCD didn't include in the ROM. If you download the kitchen, you can leave it alone... run BuildNB.bat and just "Play" that... and it will work the same as the ROM that DCD made for everyone to use.
also what is the differnce between the rom and the kitchen. I notice there are two downloads. if anybody has the time or can tell me how to do it real quick i would just like a step by step on how to install this rom. Do i need to do a hard reset?
sorry bout the double post
ok im stuck on the bootloader mode. after i updated to SPL-2.40.olipro i am stuck what do i do?!?
Hi all,
so I am new to the world of Windows Mobile - use to be a Symbian fan and then got the HTC Touch Diamond recently due to my Nokia dieing of old age.
I want to learn how to cook ROMs so I can customize what I want as I want. I tried sending Da_G a PM as he seems to be quite knowledable about cooking - although he seems to be MIA (his last post was a long time ago) and I have not gotten a reply yet.
So now onto some questions which are probably stupid, but I do not know the answers to.
So I have an HTC Touch Diamond which originally comes with Windows Mobile 6.1, I am using osKitchen as it seems really popular and it looks easy enough to use. I followed the guide which is here but it does not give me the complete info I want.
So in order to cook a ROM you first need to have an original ROM (so in my case an original ROM for the HTC Touch Diamond off the HTC site?)... I got that(RUU_Diamond_HTC_WWE-AFK_2.03.421.2_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.51.25.26_1.09.25.23_Ship.exe)
Then you open it up with osKitchen, it extracts it blah blah blah.
I then get a popup about a new ROM has been imported and it asks me if I want to automatically configure the project to use the ROM. I click yes.
Then it says the device profile currently selected uses a pre 6.5 kernel, module allocation space will be extremely limited. Do I want to auto enable module to file conversion for a list of files? Now I read somewhere that if you are using pre 6.5 kernel you want files, if you are using the 6.5 kernel you want modules? I am not sure what to click here as I want to upgrade to windows mobile 6.5 ...
So do I enable the conversion or not?
Then it pops up with the project settings, under SYS Packages I can see all of the phones services. OEM packages, I am not too sure what that is... One thing which is worrying is that there is a red circle with an X in it infront of OEM Drivers... If I hover over it, it says there are issues detected in the OEMdriers. They all seem to be errors detected in the registry and the registery key path entry is invalid due to 2 adjacent backslahes? So is this normal? What do I do?
Also there is a block "RecMod" under OEM Packages. What does that do and what is it used for?
EXT Packages, over here we have all of the applications which will be preinstalled when you flash the ROM? I know how to add .cab packages to it and it seems simple enough. Once again there is a RecMod with a tick box?
ROM Tweaking I have not really bothered with yet, would first like to learn the basics. Anything I should know about in ROM Tweaking?
Now back to SYS Packages. This is where you update/port/upgrade ? to newer windows mobile versions? Now I think if you are changing between window mobile major build versions or what ever you want to call it (like from 6.1 to 6.5) kernel changes perhaps? You call it porting? Anyways, so now I want to change to the latest build in WM6.5 .
I took a look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=650783
Now it seems like the first 3 digits indicate something, what exactly I am not too sure. Perhaps someone could explain?
There is HTC HTC which is made by HTC I think and possibly meant for HTC?
Then there is COM 2 and LG. Now since I have an HTC do I have to use the HTC one or not? Also it seems some have newer / higher WM builds? So why are there these many different builds and what difference does it make as to what they are? Also what are the COM 2, 3 and 5 ?
Anyways, I downloaded the HTC one. Now I want to port / upgrade to it. It is WM6.5 now as well. So I click Import, then goto Import a new WM build. Select the appropriate build dump, then click on start importing. It will import it and then what? Is there anything else I need to do?
I am assuming go back to Project Settings and under SYS build change it to the newer one which I have just imported? Although is this really all I need to do? Will I now have a proper functioning cooked ROM running WM6.5 with the new build?
Thanks
If you're cooking a 6.5 rom, and you have a 6.5 native kernel (there should be one out there, unless you're using a cdma diamond), then DO NOT RECMOD (convert to files). If you have to use a 6.1 kernel, then you have to recmod a lot of modules. Look around, there are threads with native kernels for many older devices. I'm not going to dig up a link, I'll let you find it. Just get the Diamond native kernel and use it.
If you have a cdma diamond, then I believe that people use the cdma raphael native kernel, but supposedly it's buggy.
OEM Drivers has an .rgu that usually has a few mistakes in it; that's probably the error you're getting. I wouldn't worry about it, but the kitchen may tell you which line the error appears in, and you can fix it.
As far as rom tweaking goes, all you need to know is that manila sucks, and Sense is blight on humanity. Good luck and have fun.
Real Beginners Stuff Please.
PsyCLown89 said:
Hi all,
so I am new to the world of Windows Mobile......
I want to learn how to cook ROMs so I can customize what I want as I want.....
So now onto some questions which are probably stupid, but I do not know the answers to......
...... I followed the guide which is here but it does not give me the complete info I want.....
..... What do I do?
..... What does that do and what is it used for?
..... would first like to learn the basics......
..... so now I want to change to the latest build in WM6.5 .
..... do I have to use the HTC one or not? Also it seems some have newer / higher WM builds? So why are there these many different builds and what difference does it make as to what they are? Also what are the COM 2, 3 and 5 ?
.....and then what? Is there anything else I need to do?
.....Thanks
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Hi,
So many questions
I too am new to the world of Windows Mobile, and have learnt how to flash different ROMs sussessfully.
I have spent my time reading hundreds of threads about flashing, and having a go - the tutorials and threads have been great source of knowledge.
Now I want to start cooking a ROM and things are different..... I have read thousands of posts and tutorials and watched videos, but I haven't found a real Noobs method of: starting, choosing a kitchen, finding a ROM, importing the new bits, and making the changes. It all goes wrong right from the very start.
Choose a kitchen, and then what ? (exact steps, not just "find a ROM you like, then..", etc. etc.)
None of the threads I have read seem to be able to give the nitty gritty to start, they all skip over it.
I have a Kaiser, and am in a similar position to you, there isn't a native 6.5 kernel for the Kaiser, so how do I make a 6.5 build in a kitchen, when I don't have a 6.5 build to start off ?
Please can someone give a REAL NOOBS guide to starting off.
Thanks & Regards,
It all comes down to the basics. If you do not know what a kitchen actually does, then there probably is no point in cooking to start of with.
Kitchens available today make a lot of things heaps easier than they were several years ago.
Try starting with this thread.... it is not for your device, but you get to learn the basics and actually understand what happens in the background.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335631
Cooking is not just clicking around with your mouse.
pkoper said:
.... If you do not know what a kitchen actually does, then there probably is no point in cooking to start of with.
..... Cooking is not just clicking around with your mouse.
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This may be new to me, but it also was to EVERY cook there is, or has been at sometime. We all learn something new at some time, and all I was asking for is a little starter to get me going. I realaise it isn't a point and click exercise, otherwise I would have made a ROM by now, and not asked for help. I didn't write the software for the kitchen, so I don't know how it works.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335631
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Thanks for that, I hadn't seen that one, but unfortunately, it also doesn't give the procedure for starting with a WM6.1 ROM and adding/changing files to end up with a WM6.5 Native Kernel.
Please, give me a break.
Fish-Man said:
I have a Kaiser, and am in a similar position to you, there isn't a native 6.5 kernel for the Kaiser, so how do I make a 6.5 build in a kitchen, when I don't have a 6.5 build to start off ?
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Using search you would have found the native kernel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=619663
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Thanks for that, I hadn't seen that one, but unfortunately, it also doesn't give the procedure for starting with a WM6.1 ROM and adding/changing files to end up with a WM6.5 Native Kernel.
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Thats exactly what I meant. Do you know what the kernel actualy is?
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Using search you would have found the native kernel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=619663
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Thanks, but I already have them. They are "files" not a "stock build" that the cooks tell you to start with. Again, do I need to start with a "stock build" of WM6.1, or can I use those WM6.5 "files" instead, if so, what am I missing from the "stock build" that I need to continue ?
Thats exactly what I meant. Do you know what the kernel actualy is?
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Yes, It's a piece of code, usually written in assembly language (for speed of execution), that sits between the hardware devices and the system drivers and programs, to translate what the programs want, to what the hardware can understand, and deliver the results from the hardware, back to the programs.
It is the core of the Operating System, and is the first thing that is loaded into memory when the system boots, and stays there until you turn off the device (unlike other programs that are loaded, and unloaded as needed). It is loaded into a seperate and protected area of memory, where it executes processes, handles interrupts, memory management, process management, file management and I/O management.
The User, cannot interract directly with the kernel (or hardware), but has to go via a seperate program (usually containing a GUI), that can send it's requests to the kernel for processing. After the kernel has processed the programs requests, the kernel gives the information to the program, which then outputs it to the User.
Is that enough of an explanation ? Sorry I had to simplify it, but there are a lot of other noobs here that may have gained some knowledge from that, so rather than blow thier minds with acronyms and babble, I thought it best to explain it simply.
Now, are there any more questions you want me to answer, before telling me what I need to know, to understand the first few steps in cooking a ROM ?
Regards,
Fish-Man said:
Hi,
So many questions
I too am new to the world of Windows Mobile, and have learnt how to flash different ROMs sussessfully.
I have spent my time reading hundreds of threads about flashing, and having a go - the tutorials and threads have been great source of knowledge.
Now I want to start cooking a ROM and things are different..... I have read thousands of posts and tutorials and watched videos, but I haven't found a real Noobs method of: starting, choosing a kitchen, finding a ROM, importing the new bits, and making the changes. It all goes wrong right from the very start.
Choose a kitchen, and then what ? (exact steps, not just "find a ROM you like, then..", etc. etc.)
None of the threads I have read seem to be able to give the nitty gritty to start, they all skip over it.
I have a Kaiser, and am in a similar position to you, there isn't a native 6.5 kernel for the Kaiser, so how do I make a 6.5 build in a kitchen, when I don't have a 6.5 build to start off ?
Please can someone give a REAL NOOBS guide to starting off.
Thanks & Regards,
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I don't think what you're looking for exist, persay. There are several kitchens out there to choose from. The only thing that helped me when starting out was frequenting the thread of the kitchen that I was using. It's in the kitchen's thread that you'll find all the nitty gritty answers you're looking for and other people that are in the same boat as you, and more experienced users of the same kitchen who would probably be more apt at answering questions about specific kitchen.
Fish-Man said:
Thanks, but I already have them. They are "files" not a "stock build" that the cooks tell you to start with. Again, do I need to start with a "stock build" of WM6.1, or can I use those WM6.5 "files" instead, if so, what am I missing from the "stock build" that I need to continue ?
Yes, It's a piece of code, usually written in assembly language (for speed of execution), that sits between the hardware devices and the system drivers and programs, to translate what the programs want, to what the hardware can understand, and deliver the results from the hardware, back to the programs.
It is the core of the Operating System, and is the first thing that is loaded into memory when the system boots, and stays there until you turn off the device (unlike other programs that are loaded, and unloaded as needed). It is loaded into a seperate and protected area of memory, where it executes processes, handles interrupts, memory management, process management, file management and I/O management.
The User, cannot interract directly with the kernel (or hardware), but has to go via a seperate program (usually containing a GUI), that can send it's requests to the kernel for processing. After the kernel has processed the programs requests, the kernel gives the information to the program, which then outputs it to the User.
Is that enough of an explanation ? Sorry I had to simplify it, but there are a lot of other noobs here that may have gained some knowledge from that, so rather than blow thier minds with acronyms and babble, I thought it best to explain it simply.
Now, are there any more questions you want me to answer, before telling me what I need to know, to understand the first few steps in cooking a ROM ?
Regards,
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Nice quick knowledge drop on kernel. It sounds to me like you already have a better grasp on things then some!
Fish-Man said:
Thanks, but I already have them. They are "files" not a "stock build" that the cooks tell you to start with. Again, do I need to start with a "stock build" of WM6.1, or can I use those WM6.5 "files" instead, if so, what am I missing from the "stock build" that I need to continue ?
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Thats because there is no stock 6.5 for the Kaiser. Not sure what "those WM6.5 files" are, but you do need the drivers for your device. Any leaked build will not contain those.
Dumping a stock rom will give you insight as to what is actually in the rom. When you then download one of the leaked builds you can you will recognize the files and hence see what needs replacing in order to upgrade.
Now, are there any more questions you want me to answer, before telling me what I need to know, to understand the first few steps in cooking a ROM ?
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What kitchen are you using? As there are obviously slight differences as to what is where.
I would just get a ready kitchen and study it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=517957
for your reference maybe you should read this....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=901712
i had made the tutorial how to cook ROM, step by step. it has different device and different OS but worth to read.....
i don't have enough capability to Cook but i try to....
also in this http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=385
some of members also made tutorial as well.......
i hope it can help.