I don't know how to stop. I'm so addicted to it that it's hurting me. Lost my wife, job, even all my other phones. '
Everytime I flash a new ROM, I have to reinstall and re-setup everything.
Argh! I need to stop. Someone help me.
One senior answered to my same question (I´m a noob):
use SASHIMI
no other answered .................
Looked up SPB-Backup Manual: says: autorecognition of ROM-Upgrade - Mode
Have also installed SK-Tools (for reg. hacks):
also has a backup util, but have to dig into it this weekend to find out wether there is ROM-upgrade-mode
LOL.
The reinstall and resetup everything is what saves me. Pisses me off so much that I flash my new phones 5-6 times until I find a custom ROM I like, then it's over, I want a phone that works, has everything I need on it, and that's all. So I don't reflash anymore until maybe 6 months later to try something new, if there is. I used to do "preventive" reinstalls at pretty much that interval, but will now stop that (read below why). And I make full SPB backups regularly, keeping the last one on the storage card, so that if something screws up I can hard reset and restore backup in 5 minutes and be all ready with everything again. It's already happened to me to have a bad crash during a day out at work, or worse being a weekend or more away from home and the phone needing a hard reset, leaving me stuck with an empty phone for several days... annoying as hell.
If you reflash every other day I'd say you can use SASHIMI or so, but if you intend to make an install that last I wouldn't advise it.
Once I was happy with my setup I decided to do a clean install, my HD2 was working well but as I had installed/removed so much stuff and tweaks I wanted a clean start, so I did an SPB backup just in case, prepared a SASHIMI folder with everything I had on my phone at that moment, including the couple of reg tweaks I had done, etc... so that it should have been all sweet and quick.
Hard reset, SASHIMI autoinstall... and result, the phone was nearly unuseable, dead slow, unexplained freezes, etc... all with only programs and tweaks I already had before, all what was supposed to have changed is the crap from one-time used programs gone, but no.
I got pissed off at that point, hard reset again, restored my backup, and it's still working fine 3 weeks and a lot more installs/uninstalls later.
Like I already said, Winmo has humors, there are times where you can do nearly exactly the same twice, and once it will screw up, the other it will work just fine, totally unexplained. There are times where you get lucky, an install gets nice and stable, stays such in the long run (6+ months) even if you don't particularly take care, then you do a "preventive" reinstall of the same stuff and nothing works. That's what happened with my Kaiser just before I changed for the HD2. Just like sometimes you can run 2 weeks without a soft reset, then suddenly it crashes 3 times the same day, while doing exactly the same stuff as usual.
The dark side of winmo.
I wouldn't use the "ROM upgrade" mode in backup software for custom ROMs, that's mostly meant for official upgrades, with same provider customisations, etc. With custom ROMs it can be a mess, some will already have some programs/tweaks installed by default while others not, etc...
i flash a lot... task29 and Sashimi get me set up in 30minutes... ymmv
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hi all, i resently got the hd2, updated it with the new rom, and thereby hoped to be free of errors... however i seem to experiense a whole lot of error, more than i had expected... sometimes it wont come back from sleep, it only turns on the backlight of the hardware buttons. then i have to kill it by removing the battery. also sometimes it wont establish connection to the net, then i have to turn off the radio and turn it on again. the phone is 7 days old, and i have had the battery out 20 times allready... is this unusual? should i contact htc? and what are your experiences with their support?
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hi all, i resently got the hd2, updated it with the new rom, and thereby hoped to be free of errors... however i seem to experiense a whole lot of error, more than i had expected... sometimes it wont come back from sleep, it only turns on the backlight of the hardware buttons. then i have to kill it by removing the battery. also sometimes it wont establish connection to the net, then i have to turn off the radio and turn it on again. the phone is 7 days old, and i have had the battery out 20 times allready... is this unusual? should i contact htc? and what are your experiences with their support?
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I would recommend a hard reset and not installing any software or doing any "tweaks" and test that for a bit.
You should find that fully functioning and stable (on 1.66 ROM) from there add the software that you need and see how that goes and don't bother doing the treaks, registry hacks unless
a) you know what your actually doing and what it changes andb) you actually need the change.
ok, I'll try that is the new ROM from htc that unstable?
as above.... test it with just the 1.66 rom, nothing added, and if it's still unstable get it replaced under warranty.
1.66 ROM is also unstable...
..or if I may refraise: Using ROM 1.66 is no guarantee for stability. My HD2 crashes or locks often when I use the phone functionality. No program or app have made the phone crash. I have tried to monitor what apps are running but I´ve not been able to conclude anything. Hard reset has been done followed by a backup restore.
Now I am uninstalling programs each at a time to see if this improves.
dont restore your backup, there could well be something in your backup causing a problem.
(depending on what you have backed up)
hard reset, or ideally task 29 and reflash then just use it as it is.....
use ms myphone to backup your contacts and sms if you need to.
Hi.
I have to soft reset my HD2 all the time because it often lags too much.
I will now list the things which makes me wanna reset my device:
- The HD2 lags so badly, that most actions take up to 5 seconds.
- One application can crash (mostly HTC_Messaging), and I have to soft reset.
- When I write messages, the keyboard has a input lag of 5-10 seconds.
- Screen wont turn on when I push the buttons
- The device wont unlock when I slide the slider, it just stops up.
Now this happens each time I upgrade my ROM, and I am currently using Artemis now.
The programs I've installed each time is:
- FingerKeyboard
- Touch X reset and wifi
- Touch X button icon in messaging
and now I use WMLongLife also.
My SD-card is an 8GB card.
So if someone could help me, I would be happy.
(Sorry for bad english.)
try installing the cleanRAM app
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try installing the cleanRAM app
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Doens't help either, ends up with the program crashing when its at the end and I try to klikk "OK!"
have you try to reinstall factory setting or hard reset
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Doens't help either, ends up with the program crashing when its at the end and I try to klikk "OK!"
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Start again. Install nothing and just configure settings.
Does it run slow and crash then?
If so you have problem that could be harware.
Try another ROM and if the same then I think you need to return the unit.
If all runs fine on a clean, vanilla phone then you are doing something in the install process that is causing the instability.
Try installs one by one to the phone mem and check operation each time.
NB. Some background info would have been helpful. ROM version, Model etc!
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Start again. Install nothing and just configure settings.
Does it run slow and crash then?
If so you have problem that could be harware.
Try another ROM and if the same then I think you need to return the unit.
If all runs fine on a clean, vanilla phone then you are doing something in the install process that is causing the instability.
Try installs one by one to the phone mem and check operation each time.
NB. Some background info would have been helpful. ROM version, Model etc!
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The problem is that I can't predict when its gonna happen. It can happen randomly, and then I have to restart the phone. After the restart, everything works normal and perfect.
This can happen upto three times a day, some days it wont happen at all.
Currently using 2.10.531.7 Artemis, but this also happens with the stock ROM. The newest one that is. My radio version is 2.06.51.07
Its kinda difficult to run things vanilla phone, cause the applications I use, I need.
for me htc messaging has never crashed...
i suggest you to flash a stock rom, 1.66 for example and try it without the sent button.
if there are still problems, u can try using mtty or send it back for repair...
edit: i had the problem where the phone was freezing while loading for a long time (over night), and the display won´t turn on. Switched back to manually update Facebook, Twitter and Weather, and had no more problems since...
Bimme said:
for me htc messaging has never crashed...
i suggest you to flash a stock rom, 1.66 for example and try it without the sent button.
if there are still problems, u can try using mtty or send it back for repair...
edit: i had the problem where the phone was freezing while loading for a long time (over night), and the display won´t turn on. Switched back to manually update Facebook, Twitter and Weather, and had no more problems since...
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Well I think its crashing.
That's what I usually use when I lock the screen. So sometimes when I try to unlock it, I just get half of the messaging program or nothing, on screen. And I cant do anything.
When I try to click the Home-button, it respons in some seconds and Home-screen is all laggy.
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Well I think its crashing.
That's what I usually use when I lock the screen. So sometimes when I try to unlock it, I just get half of the messaging program or nothing, on screen. And I cant do anything.
When I try to click the Home-button, it respons in some seconds and Home-screen is all laggy.
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When you lock the phone apps still run in the back ground as if asleep and when you unlock they attempt to restore themselves as they were before the lock.
You have something clashing installed and that is calling the registry at the same time as something else. Remember when windows full size used to do it?.
I think you have a badly written piece of software installed (either preloaded or installed by yourself) and suggesting starting from vanilla is a way to issolate it!
i've also had similar problems as you. after hard reseting a couple of times, i noticed that the intermittent lag began after i started syncing my phone to my PC and myphone. it turns out that my terrible management of appointments, messages and contacts was the root of my problem (several duplicates of everything, and almost 5000 text messages). i suggest you attempt to work your phone a couple days without loading up any PIM information, archive messages and remove duplicates (sktools is excellent at doing this)
i suggest you do something similar, it really helps. i was able to get my device to prrform as well as when i still had the vanilla ROM
best of luck! your device is better than you think!
Also, use the Task Manager, and close applications that you don't use, especially the Internet browser and applications that use data connection. These ones can really block the phone when connection is intermittent.
Yet again, I'm left dumbfounded by claims of "serious" issues with this device. I just don't understand how almost everyone has a "story" regarding the HTC HD2 being SLOW or LAGGY. Fortunately for me, I haven't soft reset my unit in 46h 5m 19s and everything is still running flawlessly.
your phone sounds faulty or something. for me.. even with the Stock 1.66 ROM i had, it was working pretty fast n smooth. now with Dutty's ROM, its faster n smoother than ever. i love this beast
I never have these problem! I used Official or Clean EX HQ roms and never got these problem!
Try a Task 29 and flash with 1.66 Official or Most popular Cook ROM
Pa49: I have only installed the programs which I have listed in the first post. I guess im not the only one using them.
Kev007: I usually have a lot of textmessages when I dont delet them, but thats max 2000. I dont sync my phone with my computer, so no uneccessary contacts or something either. Dont even use calendar, so have no appointments.
Reignzone: It is really bad. It can happen upto three times a day, and I just cant use the phone at all. Just sliding the home-screen to see all my shortcuts takes maybe 10 seconds. I could film it with a camcorder next time it happens so people could see.
The same thing happens each time I've installed a ROM. So it has clearly something to do with the phone and not with the software I've installed.
Pa49: I have only installed the programs which I have listed in the first post. I guess im not the only one using them.
Kev007: I usually have a lot of textmessages when I dont delet them, but thats max 2000. I dont sync my phone with my computer, so no uneccessary contacts or something either. Dont even use calendar, so have no appointments.
Reignzone: It is really bad. It can happen upto three times a day, and I just cant use the phone at all. Just sliding the home-screen to see all my shortcuts takes maybe 10 seconds. I could film it with a camcorder next time it happens so people could see.
The same thing happens each time I've installed a ROM. So it has clearly something to do with the phone and not with the software I've installed.
I get lags too when twitter is updating in the background. You would think a 1ghz processor could do two things at once
Backup your miscrosd. Try a microsd format. Restore your data. See if this helps.
T-Mo US HD2, still completely stock. I was having some issues with sluggish animations, applied many of the tweaks in the sticky threads here, things got better. However, it was super super slow to switch into some applications (SMS *always*, others occasionally).
Eventually I wondered about that fancy Swype keyboard and tried switching back to the full qwerty. All that disappeared and it moves like lightning now, I have to say.
I haven't played with updating Swype or maybe at least loading a ROM without it that I can do a regular install on top of. However, right now I don't miss it .
Lag issues
I have no idea what is causing your issues, but if it travels from one rom to the next, it may be your sd card.
I had an issue with lag in swype and other apps.
I noticed when I popped out the sd card the device instantly unfroze.
I then copied all files except App data and reformatted the sd.
No issues after that.
Hope this helps.
Sometimes I just hate my phone. I have an AT&T HTC Pure. I haven't done any modifications to the ROM or anything, just installing a few apps. Today my phone turned itself off due to low battery, so I put it on the charger for a couple hours. When I needed it again I turned it on and the HTC TouchFLO 3D loaded, showing my background and the big ugly clock along with my appointments. I noticed after a few minutes the time was off by... a few minutes. The screen had completely frozen. I couldn't use the slider at all. There goes my People, Music, Calendar, Weather, and Programs tabs I use all the time. I soft reset and it comes back, looking normal. I go to use the slider and it freezes in mid-motion... never to move again. I press the Start button and my Start menu comes up. I close the Start menu and I can still see it, although it doesn't respond and the X is gone from the upper right-hand corner. I tap the Notifications bar and my notifications show up. I click close and it's still up, just not responding to taps (frozen is my guess). I've reset it a multitude of ways now all with the same result... even taking out the battery.
I don't get this. It was working fine just a short while ago. I've reset the thing before and not had this problem. I haven't installed any apps since the last time I had to turn it off due to low battery, and it came up fine from that. What could be causing this?
The real thing is this has happened before. It's like if it ever has to reload the TouchFLO interface it just bombs 1 out of 20 times. Hell I was playing around with Android for the thing, which resets the phone when you want to go back into Windows, and not had this problem the whole time I was testing it. If my phone shuts down, roll the dice and I might get lucky enough for it to come back without this problem.
I resolved it before by doing a hard reset. Lost all my stuff. That sucks for what seems no good reason at all. It's not like I was modifying system files or screwing with registry settings. It isn't even a custom ROM.
Any insight on what could be causing this, and how to get it back to normal?
I'm regretting not buying an Android phone every day anyway, but thanks to 2yr service agreements and lack of sufficient disposable income to dump AT&T I'm stuck with this thing for a while.
Thanks in advance for any help and understanding!
Your issue is that you are on the stock ROM.
That's why XDA exists, because stock ROMs are full of bloatware, eating up memory, and lacking any performance tweaks.
Cooked ROMs are not a cause of issues but a solution.
I hated my phone out of the box, but now it rocks...
With that, if you are going to stay stock, I suggest you get a backup program and hard reset.
At this point I'm very interested in custom ROMs, yet I know little about them. Looks like its time to get on it and read up what I can.
reptiletim said:
At this point I'm very interested in custom ROMs, yet I know little about them. Looks like its time to get on it and read up what I can.
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Start with the Hard SPL thread. A link is located in the 2nd sticky.
This is the precursor to flashing a custom ROM.
Once successful, you can cruise the ROM forum for the ROM of your liking.
It's things like this that make me so glad I found this site
You can try installing "CleanRAM" and running it after every initial boot to clear excess memory. You can also configure CleanRAM to schedule your memory cleaning. I recommend you to use "Level 2" cleaning though.
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You can try installing "CleanRAM" and running it after every initial boot to clear excess memory. You can also configure CleanRAM to schedule your memory cleaning. I recommend you to use "Level 2" cleaning though.
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Unfortunately CleanRAM does absolutely nothing. When TouchFLO 3D re-loads it lasts almost literally 2 seconds before freezing at whatever I'm doing. I've even used the customized process cleaner to stop as many processes as I could (or just manila.exe) and it still will freeze when the interface comes up.
I've been able to get it to the standard Windows Default look and it works now, so that will enable me to back up what I'm going to. If I'm going to have to do a hard reset anyway, might as well put something better on there.
Maybe this might help
i experianced the same problem and the cause was i sync my entire e-mail acc. on the pure and it ran ok untill i restarted it and it boom hanged.
So i cleaned up the entire messaging folder under \Windows\
At restarted it and it was fine
So i suggest dont sync up entire e-mail in any form i.e headers only etc.
If this helps do P.M me
I installed a custom rom from dutty, and now it completely dies while in standby, have to remove the battery to boot it up again. Looks like I traded one critical problem for another.
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I installed a custom rom from dutty, and now it completely dies while in standby, have to remove the battery to boot it up again. Looks like I traded one critical problem for another.
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Did you hard reset after flashing?
Also, which version of Dutty's did you install?
I have had an issue in the past but thought it was random - but now I am not so sure.
I consider a ROM good and stable if I can run it for at least 5 -6 days witout a single soft reset. Often I never get this far as I have flashed a new rom or installed something that needed a soft reset.
However when I do, I have noticed that after around 6 days, there will come a point where I will just lose connection to the network - not just data - vocie as well.
switching on flight mode and then back, or changing between 2g and 3g makes no difference. A soft reset clears the issue however.
This morning my phone worked as I made a call (6.5 days since last soft reset). Then I got in the car and noticed I had no reception - only a soft reset cleaed it eventually.
Can anyone think of a reason for this - is there any built in time function that might be within the sys (currently using 28244 but I am sure I have seen this before), or a software package that could cause this?
Just wondered if anyone had seen this - always seems to be after a long time with no resets, and memory use seems fine (plenty of free memory).
Cheers
I don't know what causes it, but I do agree that the best way to test a rom's stability is to see what it does w/o resetting. My record is 5 days; usually, at about 5 days, I just can't help myself and have to reset to try a registry tweak or to flash. I think it's pretty funny whenever a new build is released, and 20 min later someone posts that it's 'the most stable build ever!!!'
There are some things that occur on my device that are fixed by running Hibernate (I have a shortcut that does it with dotfred's task manager). That might work with your network problem. Also, if you have SK Tools, you could try the 'compact heaps' command. I don't know why, but the capacitative pad on my fuze as well as the buttons (I use AE button) stop working properly from time-to-time. Usually, running compact heaps (takes just a second) will fix the issue. Clean Ram does nothing for me, but I guess it's also worth a shot.
Anyway, going 6-7 days w/o a reset is pretty damn good, imo. A reset is going to be necessary sooner or later. I remember using the stock rom on my fuze (for a month or so), and that damn thing locked up a half dozen or so times per day, it sucked so bad. I also remember when I got my first winmo device (an asus mypal), I didn't know about soft resetting, and would go months at a time without doing it. One time, I was playing a game (curse of the pharoah, lol), and the device locked up on me and was completely unresponsive, so I had to hard reset because I'd never noticed the little hole on the side of the device.
I was actually attempting to reach 7 days, at which point I was going to proudly declare it a 'keeper'.
I agree that 5 days is a good benchmark standard actually, especially when you consider most of these are from essentially beta builds.
I still think this is one of the most stable builds I have used on a day to day basis.
I shall investigate the compact heaps option you mention - but where is the hibernate option on the Fdc task manager (or do you mean suspend?) as I already have that installed?
Cheers
C.
If you check the 'about' tab in dotfred's, it has a bunch of command lines you can use in shortcuts to do some pretty cool stuff. One of them is to send a hibernate call. These are the two shortcuts you need:
Hibernate:
Code:
1#\Windows\dF_TaskMgr.exe /hibernate
Compact Heaps (sk tools):
Code:
1#\windows\skstart.exe #HCS?\Windows\SKTools.exe,-221
You may need to fix the paths and or names of the exe's. You can create the compact heaps shortcut with the shortcut wizard of sk tools as well (main menu under Tools). I've got both of the shortcuts in rom, and I have them set as XTask shortcuts, so they're really easy to access and run. They come in handy from time to time. Sometimes one will clear up some ram, while the other doesn't, and vice-versa.
For awhile now, my Droid 2 has been slow - slow to launch applications, slow to respond to touch, etc. I cannot attribute it to any newly installed application. Updates, maybe, but I'd have no idea which. I had it rooted with Z4Root, but then Verizon pushed out 2.3 and the phone became so slow that it is totally unreliable. I'll receive phone calls and 25% of the time the call will go to voice mail before I can get the phone to respond. I'll try to make a call and it may be 30 or more seconds between initiating the call to when the dialer appears and dials. Data speeds are slow.
At times the phone seems to operate at almost normal speeds and then it gets slow again. I've removed root access and uninstalled applications that require root access. I've also removed many other applications that I just don't need or use.
On my SD card it says I have 6.11GB free (out of 14.83 total). For "Application Storage" it says I have 5.63 Available Space.
I can't figure out what's wrong. Are there any suggestions short of resetting the phone to factory defaults and staring over?
Thanks,
Andrew
This has happened to my phone before also (droid2 rooted stock rom).
What i did to fix the situation, was the only thing i could think of.
I just did a factory reset to froyo and my phone was fast again.
Just back up all you apps and do a factory reset, its your only real option far as i can tell.
You could try installing something like 3g watchdog to monitor your apps and see if maybe 1 of them is eating up your phones processor.
Good luck.
Far as i can tell these phones are not much different from a home pc, in that they acquire so much extra pointless bull**** during their use that it just clogs the system. Forcing a reinstall just like a home pc.
Once they are reset back to factory, their performance returns to normal along with battery life.
Just be careful not to keep putting useless apps you dont even use onto your phone, just the apps that are absolutely necessary.
Keeping to this formula keeps my phone in tip top shape, short of changing roms or major tweaking.
Sigh I guess I'll need to try the reset.
I do have Watchdog installed and the last reported 'incident' was three days ago. No help there.
Everything is backed up, so here it goes... (I'll post back once I recover.)
Sent from my DROID2 using XDA App
I am having the same issues. I have an R2D2 stock, never rooted. Since the Gingerbread update, it has been flaky and getting worse. It is rebooting several times a day. I miss calls because the screen won't respond. Sometimes the hard keyboard won't respond and I have to manually reboot the phone to get the keyboard back. At least once, the soft keyboard wouldn't work either. I am hating Gingerbread but am at a loss on how to remove it. I'll be watching for your updates.
The gingerbread update has been reported to have several annoying as hell bugs, i never installed it for that reason alone. Besides i don't feel like loosing the ability to tether wireless, just to upgrade to a buggy version of android. Ill wait for ice cream to hit then maybe upgrade if i see something worth upgrading for. Till then its froyo, maybe try cyanogen mod 7.1
Far as going back to froyo from gingerbread, i know its been done and is fairly easy to do. Not sure how much different it is from a factory reset.