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Hello All,
I'm new to this forum but have been lurking for about 3 weeks. My current Plan was up (Verizon) So I was in the market for a new phone. I wanted to get a smart phone as I could really use the PIM features. After Looking around alot, I decided to go with the xv6900 (Vogue) because it was free!
Now, This will be my first windows mobile phone, but I'm very tech savy and computer literate. I want some opinions on 6.5 roms and the like, as I've never flashed a phone before (Flashed multiple BIOS) and I was wondering if I should try registry tweaks first. I just want to make it "snappy". I plan on installing that iphone like slider (what's it called?) and a different keyboard (any reccomendations?)
thanks for all your help in advance & keep up the great work w/ android!
I got mine a month ago. After using 6.1 for two weeks, I updated to NFSFAN's 6.5 rom because it was more finger friendly, some new and better features, and I would definitely recommend doing the same.
If not, you can keep 6.1 and there's plenty of interfaces to mess around with. I like in the following order: Winterface w/ funcontact and SMS-Chat, PointUI 1.5, M2D/Manilla 2D (bit it definitely slows down the games), PointUI 2, SPB Shell, and there's some other ones but not as user friendly and takes a fair amount of tweaking and reading. If you intend to keep 6.1, I would also install Fingersuite 1.1 to make the menus finger friendly and FingerKeyB keyboard.
I just switched to 6.5 to keep it simple and mostly integrated well.
How to switch to 6.5 (~20min):
1. Update official 6.1 Verizon update to get latest radio. Try making a call. If it doesn't work, dial *228 (i think, if not search), then press 1, and it should re program the phone to work.
2. Use 2.31 unlocker to unlock the phone. Follow this FAQ but DON'T extract the unlocker file like the FAQ says. I kept trying to and the unlocker ROM wouldn't even start. This part was the most confusing and time consuming t figure out.
3. Once done unlocking, download NFSFAN's 6.5 v10 rom, extract and run the RUU exe update utility file. The picture on the left won't be the Vogue but it's ok.
4. It'll restart and you should a brand new htc/6.5 screen. Do a hard reset by pressing red and green button while using your stylus to poke the hole on the bottom. Tweak as necessary using this FAQ
As an FYI, you don't have to do the SMS160 tweak because it was changed in v10.
Wow man,
Thank you very much for the tips. So to get the newest radio i need to dial *228 (or whatever the code is) and press 1? or your saying, Get the newest radio, and if it doesn't call, do that? Where can I get the latest radio? In this forum? I don't see it on verizons site or HTCs.
One question, IF I upgrade to 6.5 and Decide to return the phone, I can reflash to the stock rom but can I relock it? I just want to make sure if I need to return it, They won't give me flack.
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Thank you very much for the tips. So to get the newest radio i need to dial *228 (or whatever the code is) and press 1? or your saying, Get the newest radio, and if it doesn't call, do that? Where can I get the latest radio? In this forum? I don't see it on verizons site or HTCs.
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Official xv6900 6.1 update available here. It will upgrade the firmware on the phone plus the antenna software (radio). Everytime you upgrade the radio, you may have to dial *228 for the radio to sync with the wireless towers again. You can always test a call before dialing *228 if anything. Or if it still doesn't work, giving a call to Verizon and they'll be able to help, just tell them you updated your phone.
zerodayATK said:
One question, IF I upgrade to 6.5 and Decide to return the phone, I can reflash to the stock rom but can I relock it? I just want to make sure if I need to return it, They won't give me flack.
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Yes, you can always re-lock your phone. Don't know too much about the process though, if its possible to brick your phone, or if Verizon even cares when you send it back. A search for "relock warranty" should do it.
Also, here's a Rewrite up of the instructions above since I just did my friend's phone, it's still fresh in my head:
How to switch to 6.5 on HTC Touch/Vogue/xv6900 Verizon specific (~20min):
1. Install Activesync to your computer here. Not sure if it's installed by default. If not, just download. Plug in your phone and you should be able to tell because some green thing pops up.
2. Download official 6.1 Verizon update to get latest radio. Plug your phone in, run the file, and it's self explanatory. When done, try making a call. If it doesn't work, dial *228, then press 1, and it should re program your phone to work with the cell towers.
3. Download 2.31 unlocker to unlock the phone, available on the first two links. Run the file. It'll tell you to plug your phone in so plug it in and hit enter. The phone screen changes to a rainbow color now. Computer will tell you to disconnect and reconnect the phone. Do so. Then follow the instructions on computer, check the box, keep hitting next. You'll see a 0% go to 100% pretty quick on the computer and your phone, and your phone will restart. Unplug phone. It'll load into 6.1 as normal. Hold down power+camera+stylus hole button on phone, you should see a rainbow screen, and the words 2.31 unlocker which indicates you've successfully unlocked it.
4. Disable activesync by going to activesync, File>Connection Settings> uncheck the checkbox "Allow USB connections". (I forget if this step is necessary if it's even during this part, but just to be safe).
5. Download NFSFAN's 6.5 v10 rom. Plug your phone (with rainbow and 2.31 unlocker still on screen). Bottom display should change from serial to USB. Run the RUU exe update utility file from NFSFAN's file. In the program, the picture on the left won't be the Vogue but it's ok. Then follow the instructions, check the box, keep hitting next, you'll see a 0% go to 100% on the computer and phone, but now takes about 5 minutes since it's a large file.
6. Phone will restart itself and you should a brand new htc/6.5 screen. Just be patient as it loads. Do a hard reset anytime by pressing red and green button while using your stylus to poke the hole on the bottom. Hit the center big button, then the green button. You'll see a status bar and once it's done will reset it self. Let it load and follow on screen instructions. First time loading always takes a bit of time but after that it's fairly quick on any reset. Note, when calibrating the stylus, try to tap as lightly as you can even though it says to press firm. Windows uses this to calibrate how hard you should press your screen so if you press it too hard, your fingers will have to smash to screen to pick up anything. Tap it as lightly as you can and it would be easier to navigate with your finger. You can always recalibrate in settings.
7. (Optional) Do stpe 5 and 6 again. Codybear, a very experienced user on this forum, says he's never had any bugs/problems others seems to get because he flashes the ROM 2-3 times. He'll flash it, go through the customizations, flash it, go through the customizations, flash it, go through the customizations.
8. Tweak as necessary using this FAQ.
As an FYI, you don't have to do the SMS160 tweak because it was changed in v10.
If anybody wants to copy this to a sticky/wiki/faq anywhere, please feel free to do so. I hate when go to valuable information gets lost.
Many ppl have problems with "black" screens that "stop" working.
my HD: Stock rom, radio, europe location, non modified, non damages.
Screen is just black, but phone,sound and touch panel! work
first time when screen gone black i make hardreset by (unplug touchpen)press vol-up + vol-down + power. after HR screen work again !.
7-14 days ago screen gone black again ... HR dont help, unload&load battery dont help, so i use product Warranty, and now w8 for back HD & summary.
If you have the same problem just post here.
I have the same problem and sent it back for servicing.
Apparently needs to change the whole board.
Looks like there is a defective batch of HD. Reported also by another user.
I have the same problem, sometimes screen goes black about 5-6 times for day,sometimes 2-3 day is ok! im sending back to store
Mine is doing the exact same thing, touch still works fine but screen shows nothing on it. Lucky i had MyMobiler installed so i can see the screen through activesync on my PC
I have this problem too. This is becoming quite a common problem with HD.
I sent mine back for repair where they have to replaced the mainboard.
Definitely a hardware problem. Hope you have warranty.
How will warranty go with a custom (Dutty's) ROM installed?
Was installed using USPL, has never had HardSPL installed on there
Pugsley_21 said:
How will warranty go with a custom (Dutty's) ROM installed?
Was installed using USPL, has never had HardSPL installed on there
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You won't have warranty with a custom ROM. Did you backup your stock ROM?
Stock ROM can be downloaded from the HTC site, but how to install it without a working screen?
Pugsley_21 said:
Stock ROM can be downloaded from the HTC site, but how to install it without a working screen?
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I had this problem with black screen though I could still feel vibrations when clicking soft keys etc, so I knew phone was on.
What I did:
Removed battery overnight
Inserted battery and turned on device
Device worked normally again.
If this doesn't work then you definately have a faulty motherboard.
This also means you would be unable to flash custom rom on device. This could void your warranty. However I have heard of people getting phones fixed under warranty with same problem due to HTC not being able to check wther or not you had changed rom beforehand
Hmmm, well currently my phone is back where i bought it, they wanted all packaging so they haven't sent it off yet. I'll get it back tomorrow and try removing the battery overnight, as mine sounds just like yours in that it still turns on but with no screen
According to the HTC site the stock ROM should install as long as activesync can see the phone. So there might be hope in flashing a stock ROM back on before warranty
Pugsley_21 said:
According to the HTC site the stock ROM should install as long as activesync can see the phone. So there might be hope in flashing a stock ROM back on before warranty
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If your phone turns on and still connects to pc, then yes its possible. Try it and see what happens. You should still be presented with standard flash pop up screen on pc as well as % flashed etc which will change to flashing finished so you know you have completed flash process.
I've found out that MyMobiler will automatically install itself onto the phone when it is plugged into the PC, so there's still hope to see the screen after a reflash. Just need to get my phone back
Went to the shop and managed to flash the stock ROM back onto the phone, after downloading it from the HTC website. Now it's going back (hopefully) to HTC, or possibly Telstra. I'm hoping they send me a new one, as they wanted all of the accessories that came with it, box etc
Yep, same problem here. And mine is also a Telstra T8285. Maybe the bad batch is mostly in those?
Anyway, I have managed to re-load the stock rom with no screen. It's quite easy actually. Just make sure ActiveSync sees the phone, and you're good to go. No need to have to see the screen of the phone.
I'm in the US and was routed to HTC's support here in the US. Of course when I told them the model I have, they said they don't have the parts to repair it here in the US, so I'd have to send it overseas. He said they will contact me from HTC over there within 2 WEEKS. What? So I sit here and wait... blah.
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Yep, same problem here. And mine is also a Telstra T8285. Maybe the bad batch is mostly in those?
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btw, mine is also a Telstra T8285 so it definitely seems to be a problematic batch for Australia. Mine took three weeks to return and they replaced the mainboard. So far so good.
Hi,
I have exactly the same issue. The screen is black, but the phone does operate. I can connect it to my PC and even "see" the screen using EveryWAN remote.
The problem is, I have the Energy 6.5 ROM and Hard SPL 1.56 installed, and I cannot flash it back to the stock ROM and SPL, so that I can send it back under warranty.
I have tried 2 ways:
1. Putting it into Bootloader by pressing Vol down and ON - but it is impossible to tell if it actually goes into it because the screen is black, and when I try and run the ROM update utility, it cannot connect (error 260).
It seems like I cannot actually get it into the bootloader. I have tried lots of times...
2. Running the installer from when the phone is on and connected to the PC by activesync. In this method, the update utility gets as far as starting the progress bar, but then the phone seems to disconnect from the PC and again I get connection error 260.
This is really frustrating, any ideas would be greatly appreciated...
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Hi,
I have exactly the same issue. The screen is black, but the phone does operate. I can connect it to my PC and even "see" the screen using EveryWAN remote.
The problem is, I have the Energy 6.5 ROM and Hard SPL 1.56 installed, and I cannot flash it back to the stock ROM and SPL, so that I can send it back under warranty.
I have tried 2 ways:
1. Putting it into Bootloader by pressing Vol down and ON - but it is impossible to tell if it actually goes into it because the screen is black, and when I try and run the ROM update utility, it cannot connect (error 260).
It seems like I cannot actually get it into the bootloader. I have tried lots of times...
2. Running the installer from when the phone is on and connected to the PC by activesync. In this method, the update utility gets as far as starting the progress bar, but then the phone seems to disconnect from the PC and again I get connection error 260.
This is really frustrating, any ideas would be greatly appreciated...
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What I'd try is running USPL before running RUU
Quote from wiki
ERROR [260] : CONNECTION
This error occurs when the RUU cannot make a connection to the device right before flashing. This typically happens when you try to flash a new SPL to your device. Use Soft-SPL before attempting the RUU again.
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Thanks for the help Fallen Sparten.
Unfortunately it does not work.
The USPL also cannot find a connection. I think it is because I cannot actually put the phone into the bootloader - It is impossible to tell because the screen is blank. What I can say, is that when I press both the volume down and power key, nothing seems to happen. There is no connection sound from my computer and the RUU does not detect the phone.
I also get the same error if I try and update the phone from an activesync connection. i.e. when the phone is operating normally - I can tell it is operating normally because I can view the files with activesync.
Please any more ideas?
This happened to me as well. Was there some kind of software update that HTC pushed out that affected a few phones?
I see about 10-15 people on here that got hit with the same thing at the same time.
well I've had this issue as well, I have flashed back to stock rom (blind as activesync could see it tho I couldnt so no idea whats gone on)
When I called customer service they barely batted an eye and ahve arranged a replacement to be shippped to me tomorrow.
Be interesting to see what they say (if anything when they get mind back)
Hey everyone, my hd2 died (original 1.48 rom), I already tried soft reset, hard reset, put out my battery, charge it and everyhting that came to my mind but when i turn it on it wont go further than the first htc image.
Is there anything i cant do or should i just take it back to the shop?
Thanks
I would take it back, even if you do fix it. You don't want a phone that may still have a underlying problem.
Htc HD2 BRICK Need HELP!!!!!!!
I flashed Duttys_Leo_Sense_2.5_5.2.23554.5.5.0_1.72_Multi-Lang_6.5.5_Radio_2.07.51.22.2_V1.2_WWE into tmobile htc hd2 cause i was [email protected]$kin goin Rom happy and didnt double check its compatibility and my screen went blank black, cant power on, cant go into bootloader, and cant hard reset but when i plug it in to my computer it recognizes it as a device without a driver i saw it in the device manager on windows 7 ulitmate. CAN I SAVE MY HTC HD2??
I KILL my htc hd2 (BRICKED)
I used HSPL2_1024_RUN.exe i flashed like 5 roms within 24hrs i was trying them out and this one made killed my hd2.
for those stuck on the htc boot image
take off the back cover of the phone and press the little red button, this will restart the phone
AS SOON AS you press it, press and hold the volume down button this will bring you to the bootloader
connect the phone via usb to your computer and flash a different radio rom (look first which are compatible with your rom)
if this doesnt work, using the same method flash back to your original rom.
hpg said:
I flashed Duttys_Leo_Sense_2.5_5.2.23554.5.5.0_1.72_Multi-Lang_6.5.5_Radio_2.07.51.22.2_V1.2_WWE into tmobile htc hd2 cause i was [email protected]$kin goin Rom happy and didnt double check its compatibility and my screen went blank black, cant power on, cant go into bootloader, and cant hard reset but when i plug it in to my computer it recognizes it as a device without a driver i saw it in the device manager on windows 7 ulitmate. CAN I SAVE MY HTC HD2??
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for tmous with 1gb rom NEVER flash a radio with .51. in the code.
still haven't seen anyone recover from this. if anyone has please let me know.
Damn it captain!!!!!!
I just got it on the 24th shhhhhhhh....... ummm i just will take it to TMOBILE i hope i can get an other one, they may not have one in stock or they WONT give me another. i will see as soon as the store opens.
Sorry to hear about people's problems. Just remember if you have TMobile
USA there is NOT a way to flash another rom onto the phone..Just give it time the wonderful folks here are working on it. If your still in your 14 day grace period just return the phone to the store and play dumb. You might
have to wait for another phone since apparently they did not anticipate
how many people wanted this phone and sold out quickly. I know I was there
at 6:30 and the second in line and they only had 5!
Anyway, the most important thing you can do here is DO a search!
I KILL my htc hd2 (BRICKED)
BUT I have flashed roms into Tmobiles htc hd2 like TOUCH_X_TREME_23549_TMOUS_2_30_5_49 among others and they worked! i was just try different ones and i PICKED and I BRICKED!!!!!!!!!!!
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Just remember if you have TMobile
USA there is NOT a way to flash another rom onto the phone..
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sorry? sure about that? seems to me lots of people have successfully flashed their tmous hd2.
It only goes wrong if you
1 - flash a rom based on anything less than 2.10 rom
or
2 - flash a radio with ..51.. in the version number.
I KILL my htc hd2 (BRICKED)
When I take it back do you think tmobile can they tell if i flashed a rom?
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When I take it back do you think tmobile can they tell if i flashed a rom?
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possibly, however its worth a try, there are other people that have reported they got it exchanged. the worst theu can do is send you it back un fixed. They can't keep it and make you pay for the fix.
I KILL my htc hd2 (BRICKED) and the walk of SHAME!!!
Ok well thanks for your GREAT!!! input how can i add you to friends for future epic fail endeavours!!! i encounter.
hpg said:
Ok well thanks for your GREAT!!! input how can i add you to friends for future epic fail endeavours!!! i encounter.
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hehe, i rarely bother accepting friend requests, this isnt a social networking site!
Just find any post be me, and either click my name or the green button next to my name to PM me.
Shamely going back to tmobile on wed
I went to tmobile last friday they tried to turn it on, pushing reset and taking out the battery so they put me on a list for this coming wed. I still got the bricked one with me they told me to bring it in for a trade. i have tried everything to turn it on but the screen remains BLACK. so i got a BLACK BRICK!!!
Any more ideas?
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for those stuck on the htc boot image
take off the back cover of the phone and press the little red button, this will restart the phone
I do not see a little red button under the back cover. I am in the US, just bought phone, slightly used of course, no warranty. It suddenly went dead this afternoon while charging, will sometimes try to power up but will just keep flashing that one screen "stick together" over and over.....
Tried another battery, same thing.
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Mine is doing the same thing . . . in the US, the reset button is right next to the SD card slot, and it's yellow. Mine wouldn't come on Friday, and I started a web chat with Tmobile to see if they would exchange it, and then it just came back on. They said as long as the white sticker at the top of the battery compartment is still white (proving you didn't get it wet), then they will exchange it. It worked fine for me the rest of the weekend (AFTER I did a hard reset, and got it running great!!). This morning, I locked it while running MobiTV, then I couldn't unlock it, so I pulled the battery. That was 2 hours ago, and it still won't come on . . .
If it doesn't come on before I leave work, I'm taking it to Tmobile tonight!!
UPDATED 20 minutes later: Just came on . . . no rhyme or reason why?? Just started after MULTIPLE times of taking out and putting back battery, SIM, and SD card. Got the same error that I've been getting the last couple months on reboots (services.exe)?? When I did a CleanRAM, it free'd up 3.36MB . . . so SOMETHING was hung up, but nothing was running in the task manager??
Generally, few task managers show what's really going on with the phone's memory. Use an advanced task manager which will allow you to control the actual processes running on your device, Google for the names of those which seem to cause mischief and terminate them (if possible) or try to find a solution.
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When I take it back do you think tmobile can they tell if i flashed a rom?
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Hey I am also Tmobile User and I have flashed a few ROMS luckily I have not Bricked my phone (knock on wood.) I was just wondering how your return went? I have insurance on mine and figured I would just take it back if that happened. I just didn't know if that would work? Did you ever get a new one
Another update . . . used my phone all afternoon, and tried to charge it, and it wouldn't charge??? Luckily, my husband has the same phone, so I checked his with the same charger. Compared the two phones, and the prongs that hit the battery were bent back. I folded them back down, and now it can charge again. Makes me wonder if that is the problem with the phone not coming back on? Maybe putting the battery back in so that it wasn't hitting the prongs has been keeping it from turning back on . . .
I'm starting a new thread because it doesn't necessarily fall in to unlocking of the phone (as I've been asked).
I'm guessing any new purchases of this phone will have the recovery/download 3 button combo feature completely disabled.
The reason why I say this is that I've been to 5 different stores between yesterday and today (with the most recent one having a stock amount of 9 phones) and here are my findings:
Every single boxed up phone has the feature disabled. (All I did was have them install the battery (no sim or anything) and pass the phone to me).
However, every one of those 5 stores that I went to, I did it flawlessly on their demo phones.
So my guess is, as the demo phones would have been the first batch Bell provided (and some being on display before any actual product released to the public), all subsequent batches of these phones will have this feature disabled.
I went to 2 different best buys that have ample stock of the phones because it is onsale this week, and none of them worked... nor did they work at the future shop I attended or the 2 bell stores (including the one I purchased and returned initially).
But every single demo did.
So if anyone got their hands on the very first batch of phones and it works then you're a lucky one. For the rest of us, I think we are S.O.L.
There's got to be a way to do it... Anyone know a Bell Representative or better yet a person inside samsung that will leak that info to you?
Heck I don't even want to unlock the phone. I'll stay on Bell's network, I just want to be able to load new versions of Android without any risk of bricking my phone.
Thank you! It was annoying reading all those posts abt this in that thread.
And I'm not too sure that the new phones don't have it. There have been a few people on the thread that have said that they got the phone at launch, and it didn't have the feature, but when they went to return it and get a new one (from the new shipment) it was fine...
So really I dont think its very easy to tell if its gonna work or not...
I think I'll wait til september to buy the phone.
I don't care too much about custom roms and the like, the stock one is fine, but Bell has a history (See the i7500L) of not updating their firmwares in a timely fashion. The i7500L is still on 1.5. Terrible if you ask me, considering the "open-source" feel of android.
So there are rumours, I don't know if its true or not, that bell is going to have an official 2.2 update in september. Maybe then I'll buy it and by then all phones will have the 3 button combo on them.
I just went to a local future shop here, and the phone representative contacted their Bell Rep, who was at another store, he couldn't do it on the phones they had there, but promised to call Samsung on Monday to find out if their is an alternate way.
Maybe you have to hit a reset button along with it. I remember doing something similar on my old HTC diamond phone, maybe this is the same thing (sort of).
Too bad, I loved this phone all the 4 days I had it (up until reading about the 3 button combo). I sort of miss it.
I just put a call in to Samsung to find out why some work and some don't, they said because the phone was so new that I had to call a number specifically set up for support on the Galaxy S but they are only open Monday to friday..
So hopefully with all this calling around I'm doing something will be figured out.
I got my Vibrant on launch day, 3 button combo didn't work. Swapped it out for a new one, from a new shipment last Thursday (august 12th) 3 button combo works.
arr0ww,
Can you confirm what i've been reading on wiki then?
It states:
"Note: There are many Bell I9000M floating around with this feature disabled, without the Download Mode enable you wont be able to restore from a failed firmware flash. We highly recommend you to take it back and exchange it for a model that can work properly with the 3 button combination. The first batch from around Aug 5 or Serial # ending with 6000000 have the 3 buttons combo disabled, the new batch after Aug 11 with Serial # ending with 6500000 have the working 3 buttons.
example of full Serial # 89302610202006500000"
Do your last 7 digits end with 65 and not 60?
Also, where did you get yours exactly? I think if its close to me, I'll just pop by that store and get it (assuming your somewhere in the GTA).
I got mine first thing Launch morning. My serial is 59XXXXX. 3 button combo IS working.
it shouldn't be hard to fix the issue. from what i've read, and people have said, the 3-button combo is written into the SPL part (256kb) part of the Nand. all we would theoretically have to do is flash our SPL with some else's 3-button enabled SPL. now two of my friends bought their phones same day as me, and have theirs enabled, and both are rooted, so it's not hard to get our hands on a copy.
i have posted another thread in the software technical section about this and haven't gotten any replies (maybe it's the wrong section). the g1 users flash their spl, but they don't talk about how to make an image of the current spl. so i'm stuck here. i know it can be done, just don't know how yet.
apparently nandroid backup doesn't backup the spl, so that's useless to us. from the SPL backup kit for the g1 users, i read the batch file, and it reads specific hex addresses in the nand and writes them to a file, but i would assume these addresses are different for our nand. so once again, useless.
For all those that have their 3 button disabled... can you confirm if your serial ends with 60XXXXX? Maybe its limited to just that batch of s/n's.
As for wang1chung.. hopefully its a simple fix.. but i'll refuse to buy one again unless I get one that is confirmed working or easily fixable to get it working without a cable.
Thanks
Electroz said:
I got mine first thing Launch morning. My serial is 59XXXXX. 3 button combo IS working.
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it is possible the bug was only in the batch with numbers ending in 60xxxxxxxx
since the ones on 59xxxxxxxx works, and 65xxxxxxxx works
that seems to be the logical sense
this would be nice
problem is, no one has been able to get a way to extract, and flash back the good SPL to the bad phones
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it shouldn't be hard to fix the issue. from what i've read, and people have said, the 3-button combo is written into the SPL part (256kb) part of the Nand. all we would theoretically have to do is flash our SPL with some else's 3-button enabled SPL. now two of my friends bought their phones same day as me, and have theirs enabled, and both are rooted, so it's not hard to get our hands on a copy.
i have posted another thread in the software technical section about this and haven't gotten any replies (maybe it's the wrong section). the g1 users flash their spl, but they don't talk about how to make an image of the current spl. so i'm stuck here. i know it can be done, just don't know how yet.
apparently nandroid backup doesn't backup the spl, so that's useless to us. from the SPL backup kit for the g1 users, i read the batch file, and it reads specific hex addresses in the nand and writes them to a file, but i would assume these addresses are different for our nand. so once again, useless.
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Hey guys, are you still able to start in recovery mode with a cable and ADB. I would like to know cause my G-sensor is dead and I went to Best Buy to exchange it and the phones were all lacking this mode.
I didn't swap ysterday because of this but I have to do something before aug. 20. After that I will have to see with bell what they want to do and it will surely go for a repair. I would prefer to have a new one working right away but the lack of recovery mode is discouraging me.
my s/n is 52xxxxx and 3button is disabled
sp991, recovery mode is still accessible via adb to those with the 3button disabled.
allgamer, i only suggested that as no one else had suggested anything else? i assumed it would be possible since the g1 users can read their spl via the command " pmemdump -a 0x8c000000 0x40000 " and save it to a .nb file to update later. maybe this would be better accomplished in the hands of talented coders/developers.
Mine is 64xxxxx and it is disabled.
adb works.
I exchanged my first i9000m coz the download mode wasn't working.
The second one I got two days ago goes into download/recovery mode without problem!! This one has IMEI ending with 65xxxxxx and manufactured in Aug.
I also tested new one at Bell store today which had IMEI # 65xxxx as well, but it didnt go into download mode. The guy at the store said it was the newest batch as they received it yesterday, and now i'm totally confused....coz I thought all newer batchs are download mode enalbed..
sp991 said:
Hey guys, are you still able to start in recovery mode with a cable and ADB. I would like to know cause my G-sensor is dead and I went to Best Buy to exchange it and the phones were all lacking this mode.
I didn't swap ysterday because of this but I have to do something before aug. 20. After that I will have to see with bell what they want to do and it will surely go for a repair. I would prefer to have a new one working right away but the lack of recovery mode is discouraging me.
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do you have any other best buy store that you can go to?
try testing with the Download mode, it's easier than testing with the Repair mode
the Download mode kicks in right away, after you put in the battery, and do the 3 button test
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Samsung_Galaxy_S/Vibrant_GT-I9000M
check the wiki for some visuals
you can do it even with the plastic back and screen protector on top
trueimage said:
Mine is 64xxxxx and it is disabled.
adb works.
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ADB will always work, but it's useless if it gets bricked
good to know 64xxxxxxxx is not good
so i guess batches between 60xxxxxxxx to 64xxxxxxx are bad?
since the 59xxxxxxxx were good, and 65xxxxxxxxxx are also good
karakake said:
I exchanged my first i9000m coz the download mode wasn't working.
The second one I got two days ago goes into download/recovery mode without problem!! This one has IMEI ending with 65xxxxxx and manufactured in Aug.
I also tested new one at Bell store today which had IMEI # 65xxxx as well, but it didnt go into download mode. The guy at the store said it was the newest batch as they received it yesterday, and now i'm totally confused....coz I thought all newer batchs are download mode enalbed..
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that's exactly what we are trying to find out, to see if there is any pattern
but if the one you tested with 65xxxxxxxxxxx didn't work, then i guess we can't really identify it via the serials numbers, and only can be tested manually.
Try downloading the new firmware for bell the JH2 that you can download via Kies this might fix the 3 button combo for people have issues. as the recovery screen is a bit different. give your a warning now that you have entered the system menu. the old recovery screen did not have this.
Someone that can't get into recovery should try this update..
no dice, just updated
EDIT: what's worse is i thought it would've at least helped with the gps lag, and now i can't find my location at all. under the gps performance testing option, i can't pickup any satellites whatsoever.
i'm pissed now, as i needed it to go on a roadtrip tomorrow
I have a Galaxy S as shipped by Bell Canada. It doesn't have the 3 button download mode so I'm staying away from 3rd party roms for now.
It is unlocked and rooted. All has been well until today. I had it off for a while to use the SIM in another phone. When I turned it back on it asked for the SIM unlock code. I Dismissed that and checked the phone, all seemed well other than no SIM activation. I turned it off and removed the SIM and now it won't boot. I get the usual logo, the song, and for a long time the S logo. If I wait long enough it then appears to be off. If I press the back or menu key they will light up but that's it. I can't do anything else other than pull the battery.
I tried the hard reset with holding volume down and tap the power button. That only turns it back on with the same problem. The actual SIM is fine and working in another phone.
Is there anything I can do? If I could hard reset it I'd take it back to the store but I hesitate for now while it still contains my data.
this is a problem i have just posted about a couple of mins ago
but i can get it recovery mode and fatory reset with the vol up, home and power
then it will boot but obviously i have to then reset everything from scratch which is really annoying so anyone got any idea re this
lucky for you that you can get into recovery. Right now I'd be happy with a hard reset, it doesn't take long to rebuild the setup. I'd like to know who decided to remove the recovery mode, that's evil and keeps me from simply resetting the device.
its all the apps re downloading and installing them and resetting up accounts and swype and all that lot need a fix asap
do you know what version of andoid you are running
yes but at least you can get a working phone again, I can't without being able to get into any boot menus. Honestly it only takes 30 minutes to setup again from scratch. I'm on 2.1 and what I find at least on my HTC when it had 2.1 is that I setup the google account, let it sync contacts etc, then from Market Downloads I'll see listed all my apps that were previously installed. As long as I don't leave that screen I can install each app one after the other. Or a proper backup....
Any other magic key combos to reset this thing???
did you try hooking up to kies?
Yes but that does nothing since it never fully boots.
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I have a Galaxy S as shipped by Bell Canada. It doesn't have the 3 button download mode so I'm staying away from 3rd party roms for now.
It is unlocked and rooted. All has been well until today. I had it off for a while to use the SIM in another phone. When I turned it back on it asked for the SIM unlock code. I Dismissed that and checked the phone, all seemed well other than no SIM activation. I turned it off and removed the SIM and now it won't boot. I get the usual logo, the song, and for a long time the S logo. If I wait long enough it then appears to be off. If I press the back or menu key they will light up but that's it. I can't do anything else other than pull the battery.
I tried the hard reset with holding volume down and tap the power button. That only turns it back on with the same problem. The actual SIM is fine and working in another phone.
Is there anything I can do? If I could hard reset it I'd take it back to the store but I hesitate for now while it still contains my data.
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Same thing happened to my phone, but a factory reset did nothing. The internal SD card gave out. Phone is now sent away for 3 - 6 weeks awaiting repair.
my phone did this to me today too, I was just about to post about this when I saw this thread.
So its an SD Card problem? theres no hope of getting it fixed without sending it in?
Yes I think it is the internal card meaning there isn't anything good enough to reset to. I walked the phone over to the store and I'll have to wait for new stock next week. Actually I'm lucky they will exchange it since I bought it outright which apparently is "against policy" even though they list a no contract full price. We'll see how it goes next week but overall I despise the telco industry in this country.
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Yes I think it is the internal card meaning there isn't anything good enough to reset to. I walked the phone over to the store and I'll have to wait for new stock next week. Actually I'm lucky they will exchange it since I bought it outright which apparently is "against policy" even though they list a no contract full price. We'll see how it goes next week but overall I despise the telco industry in this country.
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i went to best buy today to try and exchange it, and apparently they only have a 14 day exchange policy with phones despite it saying 30 day on the receipt, anyhow i phoned samsung and they said i have to go through bell, even though im using the phone on telus, so that should be interesting.
So all the people that are having this problem have the Bell model?
Today i got mine off eBay, as soon a i turned it on, i get exactly the same thing.
It wont load into Android, i see that galaxy S logo and then black screen.
If i go into recovery i see "cant mount SD Card".
The more is search this forum the more i see that all the people with this problem are owners of the Bell i9000M model.
I seriously think they have some defect with the manufacturing line of the phone.
Have you guys installed any firmware on your phone before this happened?
mine is like that out of the box.
Mine is the same Bell model. There seems to be some issues with them which makes the lack of download mode even more dangerous. Right now it doesn't feel like the warranty is going to cover us for problems not our fault. I hope they replace it next week but if it still lacks download mode I'll remain nervous.
Seems like everyone is with the Bell model but my questions is:
Have you guys installed another firmware than the factory one which caused this to happen?
Are you running Stock?
We need to try and narrow this down as i am seeing too many posts about this issue, and they are with the Bell model.
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Seems like everyone is with the Bell model but my questions is:
Have you guys installed another firmware than the factory one which caused this to happen?
Are you running Stock?
We need to try and narrow this down as i am seeing too many posts about this issue, and they are with the Bell model.
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i put new firmware on it last week, can't remember what it was but it was upgraded through kies so it's one samsung pushed to me, not a froyo unstable one.
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i put new firmware on it last week, can't remember what it was but it was upgraded through kies so it's one samsung pushed to me, not a froyo unstable one.
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Thanks. if it was pushed to you via Kies i assume you were running stock JH2.
So it just stopped booting out of the blue?
To the OP: have you install any firmware on your device before this happened?
clubtech said:
Seems like everyone is with the Bell model but my questions is:
Have you guys installed another firmware than the factory one which caused this to happen?
Are you running Stock?
We need to try and narrow this down as i am seeing too many posts about this issue, and they are with the Bell model.
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I haven't flashed any 3rd party roms. I did do the official update via Keis which even at the store today they reminded me that I should do the update.. That update seemed to go well and has been working for over a week until I turned it off for an hour. It still isn't clear if the disabled 3 button mode is hardware or software related but we all seem to have that in common too. So before they dismiss the whole thing and we get hosed over technicalities such as unlocking it should be clear that there are clear defects in these phones as far as I can tell.
I want to be comfortable that I'm not left out of hundred of dollars just because I choose to buy it outright and not be tied to contracts. Samsung has to play nicely because it is their phone. Bell has to play nicely because they are bringing them in and distributing to retail. What carrier I use should be irrelevant because the problems are not related to usage.
FYI, the clerks went off for conference to decide if I somehow got the phone against policy. Either they trust my story or I got mine moments before they got the memo about not selling outright.
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Thanks. if it was pushed to you via Kies i assume you were running stock JH2.
So it just stopped booting out of the blue?
To the OP: have you install any firmware on your device before this happened?
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Same here, stock JH2 from Kies. Not rooted. Boots to Galaxy S logo, then black screen. Mine is sent in for repair... Almost two weeks now.
Seeing more and more of this being posted. There is obviously some issues with this phone.
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Thanks. if it was pushed to you via Kies i assume you were running stock JH2.
So it just stopped booting out of the blue?
To the OP: have you install any firmware on your device before this happened?
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Our posts crossed..
Yes I believe mine had the JH2, the official keis offered firmware. I was looking forward to the biggie update at the end of the month so wasn't about to risk bricking before then. Irony stepped in anyway.
I'm a bit nervous until I get a new one. At that point if the 3 button mode still doesn't work I'll remain nervous that I'll get another potential brick.
edit-> yes, I simply shut it down for an hour or two to use the SIM in another phone to test that phone. At next boot it died. I knew something was wrong when the logo stayed up for much longer.
I have the 3 buttons enabled so it is not related to the 3buttons being disabled, however when i boot into recovery it clearly displays an error that it can not find the internal SD.
There is definitely something wrong with the Bell Galaxy S corrupting itself.
I bought mine from an eBay seller, he is saying the phone booted fine when he shipped it but when i opened the box today i only got this black screen after logo.
Gladly the seller will take it back.
Maybe this is why there are shortages everywhere in Canada. I hope the caught this up and are fixing it with the new batch.