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I thing that everybody wants to have a g-sensor in their mobile . I have one idea . Is there any chance to develop a driver or software that can emulate g-sensor by rear or front camera ? Camera can catch "move" maybe in the same way like a g-sensor... Please think about it ...
I believe it was at least done on the Kaiser. The only issue I can see [apart from shoddy accuracy!] is, imagine the battery life being eaten!
Still, I'd like to see it, because it's the only thing I really want on my KS20
Function can be assigned to a hardware button, so it will start only if you want and then safe your battery
Ive asked about this a couple time and really got no where. I do know that the instinct uses this feature for scrolling web pages up and down
EurEye said:
Function can be assigned to a hardware button, so it will start only if you want and then safe your battery
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Then why not have the hardware button rotate the screen?
I see your point. I'd prefer to just have it running in the background. Drop the accuracy of it, and we could keep battery drain to a minimum perhaps.
Girvo said:
Then why not have the hardware button rotate the screen?
I see your point. I'd prefer to just have it running in the background. Drop the accuracy of it, and we could keep battery drain to a minimum perhaps.
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that, and emulating the g-sensor would mean better games
...I didn't think of that. Good point
kidnamedAlbert said:
that, and emulating the g-sensor would mean better games
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No it wouldn't, because as others have said the accuracy would be horrible.
mattcoz said:
No it wouldn't, because as others have said the accuracy would be horrible.
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but im sure that the great devlopers here could probably makes work better.
it makes me feel so bad not having a g-sensor.
today my friend was playing pocketgravity and he tried making things move by tilting my phone and it made me realize i need me a g-sensor.
kidnamedAlbert said:
but im sure that the great devlopers here could probably makes work better.
it makes me feel so bad not having a g-sensor.
today my friend was playing pocketgravity and he tried making things move by tilting my phone and it made me realize i need me a g-sensor.
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Well, doesn't the game lack that feature or does it not need that implemented?
The thing is, there has to be a comprimise.
Get some serious accuracy, but to do that you'd need to sample a hell of a lot, thus killing battery life.
Or, sample less, less accuracy [but still good enough for screen rotation I'd wager], but less drain on your battery.
kareem9nba said:
Well, doesn't the game lack that feature or does it not need that implemented?
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nope, someone just implemented it because it sounded like a good idea.
Will never work
Cameras have been used in the past for robotics and simply didnt work since they dont understand depth very well
What about combining the Camera and letting it work with the Infrared on the device? I know not all phones support both, but for the ones that do, its a step in the right direction.
External gsensor
Lets go back to the year 2000 where everything was external. remember the external camera on the sony ericssons? lets get an external gsensor
Maybe build in the battery like the fibration in the old Nokia 5100!
This thing must be possible.
I remember the game for Nokia phones, where you were controlling the ball in the maze. It was controlled by camera but it behaves like a g-sensor.
i dont know if this has been done but when you think about it many questions come to mind. first n foremost is depth. the softwares going to sense motion by motion in pictures from the cam. now if you have a white wall sufficiently lit and you shake your phone in front of it, hows a camera gonna judge motion from it? second, imagine a dot on the wall. now if ur close to it, theres gonna be alot more "motion" for the cam than if ur far away. i dont know the technicalities of the concept and if these problems will exist in a potential implementation, but, building on problems like these, i dont think its feasible or useful.
I think the theory behind it is fairly simple (and using the camera as a game input works as in Fishopolis http://rivia.net/Fishopolis.aspx Works on the Wizard). Take a pic A from camera at time x then take pic B from camera at time x + interval y then compare the two pics (get list of positions of same objects from both pix). If the objects in pic A are to the left of the same objects in pic B then you're moving right, left otherwise and a similar calc to determine up and down.
I think it is (actually know evidenced by the game previously mentioned) very doable and should take just as much battery power as using the video camera except for the storage since only a few images would need to be kept in memory at any one time and nothing needs to be stored on "disk".
Some matrix transformations and linear algerbra should do the trick... I'm sure someone has already done this in some form or another by now... Guess I'll see what I can dig up on the old internet.
why doesnt someone just work on internal accelerometers rather then trying to use the camera?
It had 2 Gb card, and leather case enclosed... and it is... super fast!!
Were did you got it?
slovakia... www.it-online.sk... but it is out again...
You lucky bastard, gotta wait untill the 12 for mine to arrive :-/
You lucky guy! Hare are my questions...
1. Can you play downloaded xvid and divx-movies?
2. Can you play wmv files?
3. Can you play flv (flash video files)?
/Tubgirl
Cool news for you...
But can you make some pics of the box, and what it contents, please...
Think at all these people endless waiting for such a box...
I have one!
I have one! I can buy today in Hungary! VERY fast! Amazing!
does it have any kind of navigation software besides google maps?
Slovakia WINS
Congratulations mate, I'm getting mine from agem
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does it have any kind of navigation software besides google maps?
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Igo8.3 works with Omnia II sys.txt
Can someone make pics of the content, please...
And what about GPS? Is it fast? Is the signal good? How long does it take to lock onto the satelites. btw, congrats man and greetings from Czech.
quick answer so there is no real navigation software preinstalled? like O2 did with the touch diamond once.
wmplayer can play same stuff like allways... it has preinstalled 15 days trial of CoPilot... i haven`t tryied gps yet, but this evening i will... and i will make some photo for you, give me couple of hours because i have some work...
forget about the work ... a serious time just started for you
If you happen to have an iphone or ipod touch or are familiar with them: How does the screen responsiveness compare to them? Are gentle touches enough to get a response? Also, is it... I guess the right word to use is snappy?
I know alot of reviews say it is, but I'd like to here it from a regular consumer rather than reviewers.
Can you advise on the speed of the camera, is it faster than the Touch HD?
thanks
20mihalko said:
wmplayer can play same stuff like allways... it has preinstalled 15 days trial of CoPilot... i haven`t tryied gps yet, but this evening i will... and i will make some photo for you, give me couple of hours because i have some work...
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When you test it, please, could you check if there is any lag?
Lucky you! Enjoy
two questions:
1. How is it under direct sunlight and outdoor in general?
2. How does it behaves (the capacitive screen) with WM tiny screen objects (i.e. for example EXCEL)?
Thanks
GPS Lag?
speed on a 720p standard rip (like a tv chapter) on a coreplayer benchmark?
Is it possible to take good anotations with a notetaking program and the capacitive screen with a finger?
Can you take some photos and videos with the phone and upload to see the quality?
I am a true iphone user for a year now, but thats only because i always want to have the greatest phone. I had a touch diamond before from htc, and it sucked.
Here is what i dislike about the touch diamond:
-Needed a reboot every day.
-Slow.
-Ram becomes filled with nothing quickly.
-sms messages dont arrive sometimes.
-did i mention it was freaking slow?
This is why i chose a touch diamond:
-Touchflow 3d is superb.
Well the iPhone 3gs is certainly better then a touch diamond, but today i saw the HD2 in the store and now im really confused what phone i want.
I have a iphone 3gs and love the huge collection of apps and games.
Like music reconition, watching the newspapers quickly, all the jailbreak emulators, tv guide, jibbigo speech translator, and some other apps.
Again a list of things i like and dislike.
iPhone 3gs things i like:
-Easy.
-Smooth.
-Simple.(has disadvantage)
-Fast, blazing fast!
-The App Store.
iPhone 3gs things i dislike in comparision to the experience i had with HD2 today, and pro's of the HD2:
-Simple. I have to launch a app to get information on my 3gs. With the HD2 you have about 10 things at desame time.
-The screen of HD2.....the size of the screen, the colors and the resolution.
It really made me in love.
-5MP camera with a flash has the HD2, but i know the camera of the iphone is good even with 3,2MP.
-The HD2 has skyfire, and i can watch youtube videos with the builded in browser or not?
-The HD has such a beautiful weather function.
Con's why i still choose for iPhone 3Gs:
-The HD2 aint got the app store. Windows marketplace is a joke so far.
-I dont got beautiful experience with windows mobile.(reboots, ram getting full, not fast but rather slow performance.
-iPhone 3gs got nice and clean sms chat system.
Thing i dont know yet what will help me decide:
-Does the HD2 got flash player in the browser? so i can watch youtube without the decicated app for youtube videos?
-Is the HD2 fast and will it hold being fast?
-Battery Life any good in comparision to the iPhone 3gs?
-Do i have to reboot alot?
-Is the sms receive issue solved already in some firmware update or cooked rom?
-Are there cool 3d games available?
-Are there augmented reality apps and text scanners? (to get text from a photo)
-Are there apps that can replace the apps i use on my iphone the most?
(music reconition for knowing what song is on, a good nice designed msn messenger, decibel meterwebcam viewer, metal detector(because compass) and a app to make encrypted notes?)
Finally, i want to say that im not an apple fanboy. Im a fanboy of the best phone, and im really having a large decision to make here. i love both devices so far.
Any replys will be welcomed alot
Thanks, Borg Queen X.
borgqueenx said:
Thing i dont know yet what will help me decide:
-Does the HD2 got flash player in the browser? so i can watch youtube without the decicated app for youtube videos?
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Skyfire lets you watch flash in browser
I think there's a fix for Opera to allow flash as well
-Is the HD2 fast and will it hold being fast?
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Yes, it's very fast, and only going to get faster with the 1.6x/2.x roms (not to mention the cooked roms in development)
Battery Life any good in comparision to the iPhone 3gs?
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Better than the iPhone 3gs even with stock rom, but only slightly. Users of the 1.6x roms report better battery life than stock rom, so yes.
Do i have to reboot alot?
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I don't have to reboot often, as far as I'm concerned it's an always-on device. Only times I have to reboot is when installing some apps
Is the sms receive issue solved already in some firmware update or cooked rom?
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I don't have the sms issue, only because I don't text much! But it can be resolved by disabling HTC messaging and using pocket outlook. I'm sure there will be a fix for the HTC messaging soon.
Are there cool 3d games available?
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There are some very nice games like Texas HoldEm Poker, Asphalt 4, Guitar Hero 5, Sonic, Prison Tycoon, Pool Rebel, Flight Commander, Hawx, The Game of Life, Real Soccer 2010, Electopia, Need For Speed - these all have good graphics and very good gameplay on the HD2
Are there augmented reality apps and text scanners? (to get text from a photo)
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Not sure about this, maybe someone else can say for sure
Are there apps that can replace the apps i use on my iphone the most? (music reconition for knowing what song is on, a good nice designed msn messenger, decibel meterwebcam viewer, metal detector(because compass) and a app to make encrypted notes?)
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There's music recognition by Shazam, nice MSN messengers, not sure about the others but again someone should be able to say.
Finally, i want to say that im not an apple fanboy. Im a fanboy of the best phone, and im really having a large decision to make here. i love both devices so far.
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My friend just bought an iPhone and I've compared the two, we both like the HD2 more than the iPhone, he can't get it on his network so he's not very happy
The future looks bright for the HD2 with WM7 coming out soon and lots of chefs on this forum looking to cook up some sick roms, so my unbiased opinion is go for the HD2 if you don't mind tweaking it to get the best experience. If you want a device that achieves its full potential straight out of the box then go for the iPhone.
Hello,
A long list of questions which I will answer as follows:
If you like the HD2 because you have had time to play with it AND it will satisfy your needs rather than you wanting "the best phone" because you get bragging rights with your mates then go for it provided:
- you are happy spending time tweaking it
- happy to search on here for solutions to problems and issues
- enjoy flashing roms and can live with the occasional lockups.
If you like things nice and easy,
- don't have the time to tweak your device
- consider your investment in iphone too good/too much to throw away
- want a device that does what it says on the tin time after time
then stick with the iphone.
Its as simple as that.
WB
thanks! Tweaking is not a problem. Im a jailbreaker myself.
Is it certain that the HD2 will support windows mobile 7? Or is it just a rumour?
Ofcource the specs support the OS...but that wont say it will be released for this phone.
By the way i have another thing...when i was in store today ive tilted the phone up and down...And i saw alot white dots on the screen....maby the touchscreen? Anyways it was not really beautiful.
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- happy to search on here for solutions to problems and issues
- enjoy flashing roms and can live with the occasional lockups.
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Happy to search, but i do want to find the solution. I dont like sms messages im sending that wont arrive for instance.
Flashing roms? Cool! I always want to make my phone better! But i hate useless bricks...I dont wanna **** up my phone.
borgqueenx said:
thanks! Tweaking is not a problem. Im a jailbreaker myself.
Is it certain that the HD2 will support windows mobile 7? Or is it just a rumour?
Ofcource the specs support the OS...but that wont say it will be released for this phone.
By the way i have another thing...when i was in store today ive tilted the phone up and down...And i saw alot white dots on the screen....maby the touchscreen? Anyways it was not really beautiful.
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WM7 upgrade was confirmed by official HTC rep on twitter but removed soon after, make of that what you will.
The grid isnt a problem for me, I can barely see it, it doesnt show at all when the screen is on. Build quality of the phone is top notch, can't recommend it highly enough.
Read the hints and tips thread in this forum to give yourself a taste of what you are letting yourself in for. If after reading you are still happy then you don't need us to tell you what to do.
What you must not do after purchase though is to come on here wailing about what a bad buy it was and how you wish you had stayed with the iphone because all you will get is a serious kicking!
Good luck with your decision.
WB
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Read the hints and tips thread in this forum to give yourself a taste of what you are letting yourself in for. If after reading you are still happy then you don't need us to tell you what to do.
What you must not do after purchase though is to come on here wailing about what a bad buy it was and how you wish you had stayed with the iphone because all you will get is a serious kicking!
Good luck with your decision.
WB
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whoa so many tweaks....awesome!
I wont whine about a bad buy if it works fine. But i dont want a similar experience to the touch diamond i had some time ago. I can smack it on the concrete instantly.
I own a HD2 and I trully like it. One of the best buys I've made.
Nonetheless, I came from a HTC Hero, so I should warn you about some details.
It's harder to find the app you want, because there isn't a true "market", like on Android or Iphone OS. Apps don't have a stylish look (they remind me of old Windows 3.11). There's less variety of apps.
Of course there are exceptions and Roms are a different matter (the xda community is very active).
If you're ok with this, go grab one
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I own a HD2 and I trully like it. One of the best buys I've made.
Nonetheless, I came from a HTC Hero, so I should warn you about some details.
It's harder to find the app you want, because there isn't a true "market", like on Android or Iphone OS. Apps don't have a stylish look (they remind me of old Windows 3.11). There's less variety of apps.
Of course there are exceptions and Roms are a different matter (the xda community is very active).
If you're ok with this, go grab one
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yeah i know it from the touch diamond. it is something im gonna miss, but not that much.
But the screen, skyfire, tweaking and touchflo are the main things that drag me to the side of windows mobile once again.
What im scared of is that damn HTC and Microsoft wont give our HD2's windows mobile 7. But if that is released end 2010, i will have a other phone anyways. But a date is not really known right?
Ive seen some 3d games running on the HD2, but i dont think there will come more that fast....
Im also wondering what browser will be faster with tweaks applied(from sticky topic here)
NOOB-----Time Thats the real problem...lol
Sounds like to me you are a NOOB at Windows mobile I own over 6 HTC phones my main phone is the Touch pro2 Nrg 6.5.3 Leo landscape rom and when I had my Fuze it was Fast as ever with full flash web browsing unlike iphone safari see thing is most people have no ideal how are what to do to a windows phone so they just end up saying it cant do things my windows phones had been made into mini laptops as you can see below in some of my screen shots you might wanna ask your self are you ready for a windows phone not is a windows phone ready for you....?
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Personally I'm going to try android, probably the xperia x10.
One thing about the HD2 though, is xda devs.
I can only imagine what some of the cooks are going to achieve with such an awesome piece of hardware...............
Still a hard decision to make...advantage is i wont lose money selling my second hand 3gs and buying a new leo.
i think the biggest let down of iphone is the screen resolution.. seriously.. how that happen? I would seriously consider iphone if it weren't for the poor resolution. 320x480.. yeah right..
camera and all is really great with hd2.. with the pink blob fix and the extra fine quality patch, takes superb pictures. couldn't be happier.
FPSece!! PSX emul.. friggin awesome, tho there's a on screen button lag issue which should be sorted quick as the "paid" version has this sorted.
movies... supports most avi and stuff without encoding. tho I had issues playing mp4 I downloaded from youtube.. strange enough that didn't play smooth on TCPMP, and coreplayer didn't even want to try. But most of dvd rips (700mb) movies play great on hd2.
web browsing is much nicer with bigger screen especially on landscape, you don't need to zoom in to read.
HD2 has the BEST GPS. you don't even need a clear line of sight, works in doors and plenty of SAT nav to choose from.
Most of the apps that are popular and common on iphone would be available here on xda. it would do the similar task. so give xda a good search.
I had to reset my phone a lot, take the battery out and all.. but that's because I was on 1.43 stock and I had so much crap installed and removed.. played with too many things and it was like half broken.
recently flashed to Miri's ROM. it's so much smoother and I did have to reset ONCE so far.. it just got stuck on main home screen. But so far so good. might give it another flash to something new soon.
if you've played with HD2, you will notice you don't really deal with winmo 6.5 much.. it's mostly manilla. well at least with the most common tasks. regarding battery, I find it pretty crap to be honest. I wish it was double of what it is now.. it's always on back of my mind, I just use it without thinking too much about it but then the drain on the battery is pretty quick with web browsing and phone calls.. watching movies.. and i haven't even tried playing FF9 yet, wonder how many hours I will get with a full charge. But I think most phones do about similar hours.. well at least you can buy a spare and chuck it on if it runs out.
Alright. Will search for replacement apps.
If i can find them, im on.
Hope i can ask you guys if i cant find some.
I cant find the following apps i use alot on my iphone:
-augmented reality browser > to view near shops, cafe's, bar's, and stuff like that.
-Search name/adress and get phone number, adress and map application. (or does google maps support this?)
-Compass & gps car/location finder.
-Compass & gps star viewer.
-Notes application, with high encryption and password.
-Advanced photo and video editting app.(actually found alot but need the best there is)
-Music creation/beat maker.
Nonsense apps to show off:
seisometer for detecting small vibrations nearby.
beer drinking applications. there is one....but its real crappy.
Gun application.
Voice morphing.
Dice throwing.
Also, all quality games you can think of are welcome.
Especially 3d games.
blower to blow out candles.
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I cant find the following apps i use alot on my iphone:
-augmented reality browser > to view near shops, cafe's, bar's, and stuff like that.
-Search name/adress and get phone number, adress and map application. (or does google maps support this?)
-Compass & gps car/location finder.
-Compass & gps star viewer.
-Notes application, with high encryption and password.
-Advanced photo and video editting app.(actually found alot but need the best there is)
-Music creation/beat maker.
Nonsense apps to show off:
seisometer for detecting small vibrations nearby.
beer drinking applications. there is one....but its real crappy.
Gun application.
Voice morphing.
Dice throwing.
Also, all quality games you can think of are welcome.
Especially 3d games.
blower to blow out candles.
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AFAIK Augmented reality is coming soon according to WMPowerUser. Google maps will search numbers, addresses etc. In fact most GPS software does this now too (Igo, CoPilot). Igo now supports with the help of some amazing guy on here compass direction combined with GPS support. It also works in Google maps. Not sure about password on notes, but you can encrypt the contents of your SD card anyway (basic wm function). Then, you could just password your device anyway. There are advanced photo editing apps, but when you say advanced, you can't mean full Photoshop type functionality with layer masking and blending etc? Use a PC?! There are apps, as with the iphone but I couldn't be bothered to do it on my phone!! Yes there is music creation/beat maker stuff out there.
No seisometer, quite a few beer ones now, yes to gun, yes to voice morphing and yes to dice. A lot of this stuff I've seen on Modaco but a bit of searching always finds what you need.
WM users have an app store that's better than market place. It's called the internet. Okay so you can't download them directly through your phone as easily, but my goodness there are millions of apps and they don't need to be signed off by Apple. It's a free market....woohoo!!
Oh and just to reiterate a point, fpsece 0.10 PSX emulator is amazing! I'm playing FFVII on it and it's just breathtaking!
borgqueenx said:
I cant find the following apps i use alot on my iphone:
-augmented reality browser > to view near shops, cafe's, bar's, and stuff like that.
-Search name/adress and get phone number, adress and map application. (or does google maps support this?)
-Compass & gps car/location finder.
-Compass & gps star viewer.
-Notes application, with high encryption and password.
-Advanced photo and video editting app.(actually found alot but need the best there is)
-Music creation/beat maker.
Nonsense apps to show off:
seisometer for detecting small vibrations nearby.
beer drinking applications. there is one....but its real crappy.
Gun application.
Voice morphing.
Dice throwing.
Also, all quality games you can think of are welcome.
Especially 3d games.
blower to blow out candles.
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- There is a "where is my car" application on XDA
- PocketStars may be old but it's powerful and works with your GPS
- Meteor is a great music creation software
- Voice Twister is a cool voice morphing application
- For games, there's a thread about HD2 games in this forum
This is what I can think of for now, there could be more.
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- There is a "where is my car" application on XDA
- PocketStars may be old but it's powerful and works with your GPS
- Meteor is a great music creation software
- Voice Twister is a cool voice morphing application
- For games, there's a thread about HD2 games in this forum
This is what I can think of for now, there could be more.
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thanks!
I have tried to look for some quality games, that support the 3d chip....
But the only games i found where:
-Electopia. (only a demo???)
-Experiment13.
-Xtrakt.
Are there more quality games like these? any thread to get me going?
I found alot of threads but they also had games like assasins creed...and when googling for screenshots it looks real crappy.
NFS Undercover
Racing Academy
Spiderman
Prince of Persia
...
Or just install FPSECE and play those thousands of PSX games, they are better than anything you find in the Marketplace or AppStore or elsewhere...
Hey all,
I am thinking of switching from a G1 to the HD2 but still deciding. I like the fact that I can easily load things in to it from my pc (apps, updated ROMS for the OS and all). Does the HD2 have things like that? I liked that my G1 can play nes and snes games and such.
Only thing I do not like on my G1 is the battery life, but then again any phone with a nice big screen is going to have ****ty battery life. Anyone have experience with the battery life?
Just want to see what kind of apps, hacks, and what not there are for it before I get one. I see it has a 1ghz processor, so wondering what it actually is capable of : )
Thanks guys,
Dan
(P.S. I dropped my G1 in water 3 weeks after I got it, so for the last year I am glad its even working at all lol)
I'm sure all those things are capable on an HD2, i currently don't have any games like that..........yet. But depends on how much the battery means to you, just browse the forums, you'll find lots of posts about "****ty" battery life. For me, my battery is fine. Depends on usage. As for "hacks" farthest I've gone so far is Radio and ROM flashing, which i think I'm becoming addicted to it... any more in depth hacks or warez, have to look somewhere else.
it really just depends on what you wanna do with a phone and if ur willing to use task manager on the phone a lot. I found that closing apps via task manager will help you avoid lock up problems other people are having.
i also came from the g1.
but if u like android so much, i say just wait for another android device.
Android does not equate to WinMo.
Both OSs have problems and advantages over the other.
If ur not sure, i suggest you play with a friend's HD2 or something.
I also suggeest you use the task manager when trying it out because you will probably just complain that its laggy, unresponsive and buggy if you don't use the task manager wisely.
Using task manager goes with out saying, it is a windows phone after all : P
I purchased "advanced task manager" for my G1 and use it all the time, so I am used to that anyways.
Android is neat and all, but I am really liking the youtube review and such I have seen, and what this phone can do. Especially since my G1's camera is so ****ty, and it has no headphone jack, which was a huge mistake on their part. : \
I came from the G1 too. I felt the G1 was a bit slow. Also, my G1 battery life seemed horrible. Probably around 12-14hrs before 10%-0% without too much use. Maybe the battery was old. The HD2 is currently giving me much better battery life and I use it more. I barely used the HD2 today, but it was unplugged at 9am and now it's almost 7pm with 82% battery left.
I miss the notification pulldown and the better app integration with it. With gtalk on WM, you have make about 3 taps after you see the notification to get into gtalk.
I miss the power and news/weather widgets from Android. I don't think there is a gvoice app for WM. I would have liked to be able to use gvoice since I finally got an account a couple of months ago.
I also miss the physical keyboard (a little) and the Android onscreen keyboard implementation a little. The WM onscreen keyboard is a little tricky for me since there are a couple of areas that if tapped on hide the keyboard or change it. I think it should be a long tap (instead of quick tap) to activate those annoying functions.
I never use the app store too much on Android, so I don't miss it.
My reasons for the HD2 was the faster processor and huge screen. Also the ability to play any video format.
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it really just depends on what you wanna do with a phone and if ur willing to use task manager on the phone a lot. I found that closing apps via task manager will help you avoid lock up problems other people are having.
i also came from the g1.
but if u like android so much, i say just wait for another android device.
Android does not equate to WinMo.
Both OSs have problems and advantages over the other.
If ur not sure, i suggest you play with a friend's HD2 or something.
I also suggeest you use the task manager when trying it out because you will probably just complain that its laggy, unresponsive and buggy if you don't use the task manager wisely.
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x2. you can pretty much do anything on the hd2 as you can do on the g1 but differently due to the differences in OS. i find it harder to customize the original rom on the phone vs. the stock g1 where more apps and tweaks are readily available whereas on the hd2, you gotta dig deeper (look no further then xda) for certain .cab files that are not in the marketplace or the open market to proceed with certain theme customizations.
yo, peben! this is ryan lol, good to see you posting here too.
It is worth it just for the camera, which is leaps and bounds over the G1, I had a G1.
The screen size makes it better. Bigger is better says my wife.
Beware!
Massive stability issues.
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Massive stability issues.
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I dropped my G1 in water 3 weeks after getting it a year or so ago. Instability is one thing I am used to. I have to pop my battery out at least twice a day. My camera doesnt turn off when I close it and just sucks battery even more horribly then the phone does normally.
Ear speaker works when it wants to, same with loud speaker.
If it is anything better then that, I will be happy.
** EDIT ** Also, is it possible to transfer contacts and what not from my G1 to this easily? I have a good few.
I came from a G1 as well and it has been well worth it for me. Yes the operating systems are different but I can do just about everything now that I can do on my G1 and its, in my opinion, more customizable. Even though I loved it I don't really miss anything about android, in fact I was getting a little bored with it. Battery life for me is much better, multimedia options are better. The speediness, ram, rom and speediness are also huge pluses. Various people have had various experiences but I never had any freezes or other issues with my using stock or custom roms.
I came from the G1. For the first week I thought I may have made a mistake.
I was VERY VERY wrong.
HD2 beats the G1 in every way.
The only thing I miss is ease of finding apps and Google Nav.
The truth is though that Copilot 8 is real Nav system (you don't have to be online to use it). It's just not integrated with gogle maps the way I wish it was.
If you love your G1, stick with it. If you want the best phone on the market,,the HD2 is where it's at.
You'll have to lean how to make all the settings and customizations (there are WAY more ways to customize than the G1) ad get used to using Google to search for apps instead of the marketplace.
After that..you'll LOVE this phone.
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I came from the G1. For the first week I thought I may have made a mistake.
I was VERY VERY wrong.
HD2 beats the G1 in every way.
The only thing I miss is ease of finding apps and Google Nav.
The truth is though that Copilot 8 is real Nav system (you don't have to be online to use it). It's just not integrated with gogle maps the way I wish it was.
If you love your G1, stick with it. If you want the best phone on the market,,the HD2 is where it's at.
You'll have to lean how to make all the settings and customizations (there are WAY more ways to customize than the G1) ad get used to using Google to search for apps instead of the marketplace.
After that..you'll LOVE this phone.
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I do miss those apps!! Coming form Nexus one.
I have navigation in my car, so the only thing I really do with my G1 these days is text, weather, and occasional youtube because it does not do much because of the water damage. I take pics with it sometimes and upload to picasa, but they look ****ty.
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I came from the G1. For the first week I thought I may have made a mistake.
I was VERY VERY wrong.
HD2 beats the G1 in every way.
The only thing I miss is ease of finding apps and Google Nav.
The truth is though that Copilot 8 is real Nav system (you don't have to be online to use it). It's just not integrated with gogle maps the way I wish it was.
If you love your G1, stick with it. If you want the best phone on the market,,the HD2 is where it's at.
You'll have to lean how to make all the settings and customizations (there are WAY more ways to customize than the G1) ad get used to using Google to search for apps instead of the marketplace.
After that..you'll LOVE this phone.
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I've have the g1 and also a hd2. the only thing I really miss is the apps for Android and ease of finding them. I never used the marketplace (it sucks!) except for like a browser or to DL or a Facebook app or something . to bump up to the hd2 is definitely worth it. specially comin from a g1. when I got it I was amazed at how quick and responsive it is. but I missed Android too much and ended up getting the nexus one so now I switch back and forth lol. if u don't think ull miss the OS all that much its deff worth getting. battery life for me I could make it bout a eight hour shift before it'd go into the red but again I was surfing the net on that thing all day at work ...days when I wouldn't power use it the battery wasn't too bad . also with the HTC sense it really covers up the Windows pretty good. and there is a emulator app for it ..nes snes genesis ...with multitouch !
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one more thing. u can sync ur Google contacts with the hd2. life saver :]
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Also coming from G1. I really loved Android and my G1 but when I saw the HD2 I knew it was over. Android is a great OS with a ton of apps, but the phone was just too slow to really take advantage of Android's capabilities.
I was planning on getting a Nexus One eventually, but I always like to try the phone out in the store a few times to see if I really like it at far as speed and ergonomics. Not having Nexus Ones in stores really hurt Google here IMHO as I probably would have gotten one.
I can say for sure that the HD2 is ultra fast with NO LAG for me. I can listen to podcasts, use navigation, switch between apps all with no freezing like I had with my G1. Plus I see way more "oohs" and "aaahs" when I use the big-ass screen in public.
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Also coming from G1. I really loved Android and my G1 but when I saw the HD2 I knew it was over. Android is a great OS with a ton of apps, but the phone was just too slow to really take advantage of Android's capabilities.
I was planning on getting a Nexus One eventually, but I always like to try the phone out in the store a few times to see if I really like it at far as speed and ergonomics. Not having Nexus Ones in stores really hurt Google here IMHO as I probably would have gotten one.
I can say for sure that the HD2 is ultra fast with NO LAG for me. I can listen to podcasts, use navigation, switch between apps all with no freezing like I had with my G1. Plus I see way more "oohs" and "aaahs" when I use the big-ass screen in public.
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yeah it gets you major *****... haha jk
I came from G1, trust me well worth the switch. Processor speed and screen size combined with swype make it great. I was not in love with the idea of no keyboard, but have adjusted
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I came from G1, trust me well worth the switch. Processor speed and screen size combined with swype make it great. I was not in love with the idea of no keyboard, but have adjusted
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Well, I installed swype on my G1 just to test it out and I really like it, but now I already have it on my G1 so its not the biggest selling point lol. But so far everything in this thread is telling me its the right phone to switch to
Another G1 to HD2 person. I do miss android and hopefully soon we will have a port for the HD2.
But, the hardware is super. I love this phone. Great camera, great call quality, large beautiful screen, fast, plenty of customizations, many rom's to switch to if you want.
The more I think about this phone I would like to have android, but only as an option for the apps I like. Otherwise, winmo will do.
Alright I have thought about making this post and after making an intense review of the latest issues users are reporting I believe now its the time.
So after 13 days of using the Xperia i have suffered from:
Extreme battery flush even in standby.(I use Task Panel lite to auto-kill apps not needed and still get surprises...)
1.6 Android compatibility issues with latest 2.1 programs.
Snapdragon processor that cant stand lagging on Timescape and Mediascape
Phone calls not heard correctly on the other side of the line.
No fre GPS support like TOMTOM or similar even do the chip is there.
Multitouch debates.
No root as of today...(yes i know no one promised...)
...and many other issues users are experimenting on their devices that really aint freaking cool.
So the dilemma is... Is it really worth all the headaches?
I mean very few have gone clean without any issues but many others have problems from the moment the Xperia pops its head out of the box.
I am starting to feel like it was a major mistake to trade in my HD2 for this so new stylish and hot piece of s*** that is begging for major concerning updates on behalf of SE. Maybe something spectacular might happen on its own that will make my 489€ phone work like it should, but as the days go by I see that if it aint one thing is another involved in the issues evolving the super dupper Xperia X10 that had promised to be the next best thing since sliced bread, but turns out its looking more like an overtoasted slice to me...
How do you people feel about this ?
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How do you people feel about this ?
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Simply put, I feel it's a spectacular phone Timescape and Mediascape need some work, but otherwise I have zero issues and I'm enjoying this phone ALOT.
Many of those are not major issues and are really the result of someone complaining. I mean 2.1 applications dont work properly with 1.6? Really? I find the phone fast and the battery great. I and many of my friend who have iphones were immediately impressed with the speed of this phone. Do you have a ton of applications constantly updating? My phone easily lasts all day long on one charge with heavy use and thats all you can ask from a smartphone. An Iphone barely lasts 10 hours for me. Couldnt tell you it didnt have multitouch because I do not miss it, or even care about it.
I am actually ecstatic with this phone. It has exceeded my expectations.
Headaches, really? I don't know what the complains are. SE told everyone that it is being shipped with 1.6. I have been using 1.6 with the HTC Magic and I knew exactly what to expect.
Battery? Read about others phones. It is the same complain all over. I remember when I had the Nokia N95 and that was the first complain out of the box. Just be patient and wait a couple of weeks to see if there is a trend.
Root? No one promised you that the phone will be rooted. Root is at the mercy of whoever is interested in tinkering with the phone.
Multitouch? Over-rated. Never liked it eventhough my HTC Magic has it with the Amon_Ra rom. I prefer using the +/-.
In the end, it is a matter of expectations. There is nothing really wrong with the phone, as promised by SE.
With complete honesty I can say that after two weeks of using the X10 I am finding little to complain about.
Battery life has improved and I can use it heavily for a full days work without problem.
Lots of reviews before release complained of lag, but I really have seen no lag on this phone, I am not currently using a task killer as I believe it does more harm than good.
My only 'customizations' have been to load the HTC keyboard and use K9 for email (I needed push!). Other than that I really think it is the best phone I have had.
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Yes, even with all the quirks, battery problem, unironed Mediascape (managing Playlist), X10 is my best phone yet. Can't wait for all of those stuff to be ironed out.
I had a HTC HD2 previously, was one of the first to own one. Now THAT was a phone with serious issues, pink camera pictures, sms messages stuck in outbox were the two biggest.
This Xperia X10 is a fantastic phone in comparison, I can't put my finger on what it is, maybe its the android OS, I don't know but I love it.
Issues for me inlude
Battery drainage, which I'm starting to be quite thankful for in a weird kind of way. Because it runs down by the early evening, I'm chargin g it every night, so it is always fully charged the next day
Lack of camera automatic flash is a pain.
Call volume is low.
The butons whilst making a call are odd. There are no call and reject hard keys which I find annoying.
I turned TimeScape off straight away as it was a waste.
Everything else is prety perfect for me, even the older Android OS.
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No fre GPS support like TOMTOM or similar even do the chip is there.
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What did I miss? Since when is Tomtom free? There are enough GPS packages out there:
-iGo/MotoNav
-CoPilot
-Sygic
-etc etc
You choose!
As for your other points:
-Battery will get better, I'm now getting 48 hours out of it. All smartphones suffer from this. I see some users getting amazing results with the battery. Better standby time than any of the competition. Just give it some time to break-in nicely.
-Android 1.6 .. I don't miss anything. If 2.1 was so important to have right away you should have bought the Desire/N1 (but then you wont have the good camera and spectacular design)
-Snapdragon lags, it seems to lag sometimes on the other phones too
-Phone calls work allright for me, maybe bad reception/bad sim?
-Multitouch, same as Android 1.6, you knew it hadn't MT when you bought the device, so why complain? With the 4" screen I don't miss MT, I don't game on the X10.
-Root will come, again you knew this when you bought the phone..
The X10 is the best phone I owned period. However it could give you headaches if it's not the right phone for you. However you should have noticed that when browsing specs/reading reviews/buy the phone...
I get all your points guys and I appreciate the feedback.
Slight correction: With free GPS I meant without using 3G assistance, like Igo08 for example.
But your right, the battery issue should settle in after a few more days and I really hope to adapt myself to the X10 way of doing things.
Obviously when Timescape makes the correct modifications it will kick some serious butt... BUT for now you gotta give it to me that it was presented in a way smoother way then it really is! anyhow thanks for the feedback once again.
I have to Agree with Cinner.....after 1 1/2 weeks with this phone, I still have a hard time putting it down. The battery life could better as 10 hours of life is not enough but the overall feel and UI make up for that shortfall.
The HTC magic I had was on its 3rd replacement before trading for the X10....so far no lock ups or freezing
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I get all your points guys and I appreciate the feedback.
Slight correction: With free GPS I meant without using 3G assistance, like Igo08 for example.
But your right, the battery issue should settle in after a few more days and I really hope to adapt myself to the X10 way of doing things.
Obviously when Timescape makes the correct modifications it will kick some serious butt... BUT for now you gotta give it to me that it was presented in a way smoother way then it really is! anyhow thanks for the feedback once again.
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You can use any of the Android compatible GPS applications(Sygic,N_drive,Motonav,Copilot)without 3G assistance(Turn it off)and still get a very fast gps lock.
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You can use any of the Android compatible GPS applications(Sygic,N_drive,Motonav,Copilot)without 3G assistance(Turn it off)and still get a very fast gps lock.
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Thanks for the tip, I will look into it
Well, none of them are free.
This is the only thing making me still use my 5800 XM as my main phone and the X10 as media device
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I agree with the original post.
I have been experiencing many issues too with xperia x10 and i am very disappointed with this device.
I had an HTC Hero before and when i now switched to xperia x10 it feels like going back in time. The user experience and usability of the interface is far from the HTC Sense UI. You can really feel that HTC has been testing, merging, integrating and polishing many nice widgets to make the user have a good use of the android phone functions.
As some examples, the x10 comes with 3 emails clients by default (e-mail, gmail, moxier mail), but none of them can show all mail accounts integrated in the same. Why so many applications for emails????
I have to switch from one application to the other to see all my emails from various accounts, ex gmail, outlook exchange i need to use moxier mail. It was also not possible to add IMAP with certificate to the standard e-mail client, you have to use another speciifc program (moxier mail) for direct connection to exchange server and synch. The calender had the same issue. The calendar widget only shows google calendar and does not integrate both outlook calendar and google in the same as the HTC Hero. HTC Hero provides a single email clienst which shows all the emails from all accounts, very nice, and so easy to set up, same for calendars.
When i first started the X10 phone it had very little on the start screan, no widgets really, only the timescape, which was empty, and a browser which was empty too. no music player widget. no weather widget by default either. very bad impression. HTc comes with all widgets pre-installed, the music player is really good. Xperia x10 media scape looks really bad in comparison.
Another issue was when i wanted to use TED application to see videos from TED talk, well no video at all, only sound plays back. the application worked perfectly in HTC Hero which had same android 1.6 version...hmmmm.
Another issue is the battery as well, i feel really as the battery is comsumed very fast, it lasted only 7h.
The screen and design cannot be changed either, or i havenät figured out how, it seems as you can change only the background picture of the desktop, but not the overall theme of the phone, incl sounds and colors of windows.
The white text on fading blue background color is very difficult to read, especially on the bottom of the device...so only the 2/3 upper part is readable when in menus/settings. I also have been missing the trackball.
In htc hero (and all other htc sense phones like htc desire) you can customise the phone screens and themes much more and the overall design is consistent in all places.
I also find no use of mediascape or timescape. Mediascape is a bit rudimental compared with other media player. Timescape is really unusable, since you can´t read the text over the images in the backgroud, and the smaller one have so small text as well.
Positive things? .. let me think hard ... yes 3: the sligthly large screen, the 8m camera, the accessories.
In xperia x10 you can feel that the SonyEricsson team was not really ready when they shipped this phone. I really hope that the 2.1 upgrade coming will also bring some better integration, consistency and GUI improvements as HTC does. Onother solution would be to get the htc sense rom on the x10.
This thread should be retitled to "So few issues with x10". The post preceding mine is downright laughable, not enough widgets! Are you serious? That's your niggle? This easily SE's most ready for primetime phone EVER.
no one is perfect. and this applies to cell phones. if you don't like it. sell it to someone else who will appreciate it more.
and btw. i am enjoying my new X10 VERY MUCH.
its nice that you point out some of the negative issues about the phone but dont make it sound like SE made the phone just for you and you are not satisfy with it.
email your pts to SE and hope they will improve base on your opinion
Completed my 15th day with X10. First few days I was worried about battery but all that got better as I know I was using my phone a lot more than I normally do the first few days as I am trying to customize and play with the phone. Now, it easily lasts me like any other phone I had recently (Nexus One, iPhone 3GS, X1, etc).
I feel it's the best phone I ever owned even though I have a long wishlist but mainly the ability to create playlists and also to be able to add a track to the listening queue and smart dialer. There are free apps for smart dialer but I love the look of X10 dialer so I end up going back to it even though I miss the smart dial feature.
I don't see any lag with TimeScape or MediaScape. All I notice is if I open TimeScape after several hours and I have several new updates on Twitter and Facebook, it takes time only because it is trying to download data to update the tiles. If I am on WiFi, even these downloads happen quite fast.
The only main mod I did is change the keyboard to Swype.
Yes The X10 have problems, some people can live and still love it, others just can't stand it. Nothing is perfect, if you can't live with it, just part with it really.
I love my X10 with all its quirks, just to be a little bit patient till the Pros root the device and start cooking. SE won't do any updates until they release Android 2.1, lucky if we get that by september.
i dont know what you talking about. i know some have batteri iddue but i think domthing is erong with the batteri or phone since i dont have anny problem. the only bug/ issue the phone has is bluetoth that will be fixt in a patch. yes it can take 5 - 10 sec load timescape but its not lagy at al at my phone. send your phone back for repair and it will be fixt
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i dont know what you talking about. i know some have batteri iddue but i think domthing is erong with the batteri or phone since i dont have anny problem. the only bug/ issue the phone has is bluetoth that will be fixt in a patch. yes it can take 5 - 10 sec load timescape but its not lagy at al at my phone. send your phone back for repair and it will be fixt
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I think you have demonstrated another 'out of the box' issue with the X10 in your post there ! The shoddy default keyboard included on the X10 I have updated to the HTC keyboard and that is workng fine now, though I still find the IPOD keyboard easier to use....