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January 22nd North American 850MHz HSPA 3G Blackstone...

Saw this news story, does anyone know if it is credible? The NextG Service is on the 850MHz band which is the same as Rogers/Fido in Canada and Cingular in the US...if all this is true then one of these unlocked would be 3G Compatible in North America...Thoughts?
http://apcmag.com/iphonelike_htc_touch_hd_set_for_aussie_launch.htm
http://www.expansys.com.au/d.aspx?i=173812

Well that would suck for me because about 3 hours ago I got an iPhone because I really needed 3g already I do ally of browsing and videos but I like the touch he better....

What is the exact issue with North America and the Touch HD? I thought HSDPA was fully supported in our continent under most major providers. Just curious as I'm looking at purchasing one in the future.

Lokosis said:
What is the exact issue with North America and the Touch HD? I thought HSDPA was fully supported in our continent under most major providers. Just curious as I'm looking at purchasing one in the future.
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The Touch HD that is out now operates on UMTS 900/2100. Telstra in Australia and the North American providers (except T-Mobile) use UMTS 850.

hopefully it is just some software that HTC did. cuz we do have that option to change it to 850MHz 3G in the phone but just nothing happens to it. If a flash can fix it then it should be ok. EDGE for me is pretty fast anyways in Toronto most of the time.

b-e-a-s-t said:
Saw this news story, does anyone know if it is credible? The NextG Service is on the 850MHz band which is the same as Rogers/Fido in Canada and Cingular in the US...if all this is true then one of these unlocked would be 3G Compatible in North America...Thoughts?
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850 mHz is just one of the 2 bands needed to work on US 3G. you also need 1900 . my understanding is one band is for upload the other for download. don't get me wrong, it would be fantastic if the Aussie version was fully capable on US networks. i'll believe it when i see it. heck, expansys even has a note saying they have to confirm the 850mHz 3G band.

850/1900Mhz....
could someone please explain the upload/download at different frequencies paradigm to me?

cortez.i said:
850 mHz is just one of the 2 bands needed to work on US 3G. you also need 1900 . my understanding is one band is for upload the other for download. don't get me wrong, it would be fantastic if the Aussie version was fully capable on US networks. i'll believe it when i see it. heck, expansys even has a note saying they have to confirm the 850mHz 3G band.
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This is incorrect. With at&t you do not need both. With just 850mHz you will be more than fine.
Now with T-Mobile you would need both 1700 and 2100 not just 2100 or just 1700 both. Just more reason to hate T-Mobile.

I am ready to take the plunge and drop the $ for an HD. I also will switch my number back to at&t from verizon. I guessi cna say almost ready. I really dont want to spend $800 for no 3G

Does anyone know how hspa in Canada with Rogers/Fido works? i.e. are dual frequencies required or is 850MHz enough to get top speeds? Thanks...

Has anyone brought one into the US and had any success getting a 3G signal ?

Some carriers in the US and Canada use 850mhz such as AT&T and Rogers but they also use 1900mhz. It really depends where you live... Whiich city, state etc
1900mhz is growing in popularity in the states.

tbfl said:
Has anyone brought one into the US and had any success getting a 3G signal ?
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Doesnt work

b-e-a-s-t said:
could someone please explain the upload/download at different frequencies paradigm to me?
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I can't remember which but one is used for uploading and one is used for downloading.
cortez.i said:
850 mHz is just one of the 2 bands needed to work on US 3G. you also need 1900 . my understanding is one band is for upload the other for download. don't get me wrong, it would be fantastic if the Aussie version was fully capable on US networks. i'll believe it when i see it. heck, expansys even has a note saying they have to confirm the 850mHz 3G band.
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You are exactly right. YOu need both 1900 and 850mhz
tbfl said:
Has anyone brought one into the US and had any success getting a 3G signal ?
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Sadly, no 3G for me.

You do not need both 1900 and 850. Its only tmobile that u need both frequenes but they use 1700 and 2100. As long as u have ether 850 or 1900 (depending on what freuency ur area uses) u will have 3g with at&t.

cortez.i said:
850 mHz is just one of the 2 bands needed to work on US 3G. you also need 1900 . my understanding is one band is for upload the other for download. don't get me wrong, it would be fantastic if the Aussie version was fully capable on US networks. i'll believe it when i see it. heck, expansys even has a note saying they have to confirm the 850mHz 3G band.
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No, the *network* you use may be present on more than one frequency, but its not 850 being uplink and 1700 being the downlink.
When we talk about UMTS the downlink is around 850/1700/2100 but the uplink is always a few MHz below that. (to be pedantic, the UMTS specification specifies the exact downlink/uplink separation)
I can't imagine HTC producing a UMTS 850 phone that won't work on ATT/Rogers and Telstra . Telstra only needs the 850 band so HTC can add in whatever extra the US providers use. It will probably be the same bands supported by the HTC Hermes and other phones common to these providers.

for AT&T, you do NOT need both frequencies (850 and 1900) for 3G. They don't HAVE both frequencies in most areas. It's one or the other.
And yes, T-Mobile US sucks ass...
-Mc

Tremere said:
No, the *network* you use may be present on more than one frequency, but its not 850 being uplink and 1700 being the downlink.
When we talk about UMTS the downlink is around 850/1700/2100 but the uplink is always a few MHz below that. (to be pedantic, the UMTS specification specifies the exact downlink/uplink separation)
I can't imagine HTC producing a UMTS 850 phone that won't work on ATT/Rogers and Telstra . Telstra only needs the 850 band so HTC can add in whatever extra the US providers use. It will probably be the same bands supported by the HTC Hermes and other phones common to these providers.
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McHale said:
for AT&T, you do NOT need both frequencies (850 and 1900) for 3G. They don't HAVE both frequencies in most areas. It's one or the other.
And yes, T-Mobile US sucks ass...
-Mc
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Well I stand corrected then. This is good news then. Just need somebody in the US to buy a Telstra HD and see if it works. I guess it will be dependent on the area though. If you don't have 850mhz.

Lol i guess it took a senor member to say it for anyone to believe it. I only said it in the first page lol. Lets see what happens when the aus model comes out.

So it is decided then IF the Blackstone is introduced by Telstra and working on their 850MHz 3.5G Network THEN it has the opportunity to work in both the US on Att and Canada's Rogers/Fido...I will wait for this device, purchase it and let the board know if someone else doesn't beat me to it!
P.S. does someone think that this release may be with the Android OS for Telstra? It was the Telstra reps that were commenting at CES 2009 regarding Palm Pre and how the next Android phone that they were testing kicks it...who knows probably coincidence...

US 'Vibrant'. Will it work on UK 3G??

Hey
I'm living in the US at the minute but will be back in the UK in about a year. Looking at getting the 'vibrant' on T mobile when it comes out here in the US.
Looking at the frequencies for the phone will it work no problem with the 3G networks in the UK when I get home? it has UMTS 2100, but no 1900
Specs:
t-mobile.com/shop/phones/Cell-Phone-Detail.aspx?cell-phone=Samsung-Vibrant
I found this thread:
forum.o2.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=33787&sid=f365232aaef6942f0673dde5774cdc50
And this:
o2.com/cr/what_are_radio_waves.asp
In the UK do I only need the 2100 UMTS frequency for it to all work, or do I need a phone that can do 1900 as well? as per here - /en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands
I'm a bit confused!
I had to edit the links as being a new user the board won't let me post external links... Hopefully you can get them to work.
Thanks

You only need 2100, although you probably want 900 (not 1900) also.
I believe the T-Mobile variant is 900/1700/2100 so it should be fully euro compatible.

reuthermonkey said:
You only need 2100, although you probably want 900 (not 1900) also.
I believe the T-Mobile variant is 900/1700/2100 so it should be fully euro compatible.
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Great, I thought it would be ok, thanks for confirming

SGS & ATT

I'm looking to possibly get this as my 1st android phone - but I would like to be sure that you can get 3g on ATT in the US.
Any confirmation would be helpful.
thanks.
Edit: NM I found out the sad news

You're missing the point. GSM quad band is for 2G service only. In order to get AT&T's 3G service, you will need both 850 and 1900 UTMS/WCDMA band support. Obviously the current spec is for use outside of North America. If and when Samsung descides to bring it into NA, it has to add either AT&T's 3G band support or T-Mo (1700/2100) 3G band support.
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Just for reference.

yes you can get the i9000m version and you get full 3G coverage on both 850 and 1900 bands
don't get the i9000 version as that is only 900 and 1900 bands

kheavy said:
Just for reference.
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You don't need BOTH (850 and 1900) to get 3g. You can get 3g with just 1900mhz, but it's definitely preferable to have 850mhz and 1900mhz.
So get the i900m.

true and not true
only having 1900 band have a disadvantage
specially when you go underground or into buildings and areas outside of the big cities

AllGamer said:
true and not true
only having 1900 band have a disadvantage
specially when you go underground or into buildings and areas outside of the big cities
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What do you mean true and not true? If you read what I said, I am agreeing with you Did you not read my "but...." part?
You can get AT&T 3g with JUST 1900mhz. I didn't say it was great, but nonetheless you can still get it.

INeedYourHelp said:
What do you mean true and not true? If you read what I said, I am agreeing with you Did you not read my "but...." part?
You can get AT&T 3g with JUST 1900mhz. I didn't say it was great, but nonetheless you can still get it.
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no not really some places dont have 1900 only 850..
but you are correct in that more have 1900 than 850.. but all new att services they are putting in for 3g are 850

lgkahn said:
but you are correct in that more have 1900 than 850..
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I didn't say anything about which has more.
I am simply trying to convey the message that a phone with 1900mhz 3g can in fact connect to AT&T 3g network. I am not saying or have ever said that you can get it everywhere where AT&T provides 3g service. Jeez.

3G would not work in Europe, correct?

Hi, Just making sure this phone's 3G bands wouldn't work in W. Europe's 3G 2100 bands. Can anyone confirm? AWS is 1700/2100, which I think is upload/download. AFAIK, you would need the phone to do both upload and download in the 2100 region.

This phone works perfectly fine in europe on 3g.
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA App

apple_g said:
This phone works perfectly fine in europe on 3g.
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA App
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What makes you say that? Not that I know for sure either way, but I've just seen answers going in either direction. Some say yes, some no.
Here's what I know:
Most of W. Europe uses 3G 2100 (perhaps a little 900?).
This phone has bands listed as 1700/AWS/2100.
This phone uses Band IV (T-Mobile) which uses both 1700 and 2100 (one for upload and one for download I think).
When the phone is listed as "1700/AWS/2100", does that mean it will do both AWS *and* 1700 upload/download *and* 2100 upload/download? If so, then I'm golden. But, I think this phone only does AWS, meaning that one of the bands is dedicated to one data direction only, i.e. one upload and the other download. So, I'm inclined to believe it wouldn't work on 3G in Europe.

It DOES WORK in Europe!
The phone DOES work in Europe. I used it in Norway in December, France and Portugal in January.
The thing is be very careful no to roam data or it is going to cost you a fortune!!!
If you must roam data, take a look at http://xcomglobal.com/. I used their MiFI and simply loved it!
Hope this helps,
Q

Q.Entity said:
The phone DOES work in Europe. I used it in Norway in December, France and Portugal in January.
The thing is be very careful no to roam data or it is going to cost you a fortune!!!
If you must roam data, take a look at http://xcomglobal.com/. I used their MiFI and simply loved it!
Hope this helps,
Q
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Thanks for the reply, but did you see the H icon then, and not just the E icon while in Europe? I realize that EDGE/GPRS would work just fine for data, but 3G is still in question. Even HTC says this phone, which is equipped only with AWS (Band IV), will not work in Europe for 3G data. I'm moving to Europe soon, and I'd just as soon sell it here before I leave. Thanks...

WHat I remember is seeing an R icon to warn me about the roaming. I turn the data off almost immediately so I did not pay much attention to it. I am not back in Europe until the first week in March. I guess by then you will know the answer...

In Europe ... data not working w/ Euro SIM card
I'm in Germany with an unlocked MT4G and, while the calling feature works, the data/internet package does not. Per the carrier here (Tchibo/O2), they use the 1800 band which to my knowledge IS supported by the device.
Any ideas of why this isn't working would be appreciated ... of course more appreciated would be any ideas for a solution.
Cheers,

The phone works fine with AWS and 2100 bands.
AWS is 1700 MHz band.
The device ONLY supports AWS and 2100. It doesn't support 1800 (which doesn't even exist) or 1900 or any other bands.

This phone is quad band for voice and GPRS/EDGE data - meaning 800, 1900 for N. America and 900, 1800 for Europe. It does not support the 2100 3G band as found in Europe. 3G is only supported over the AWS band in N. America, which is *both* 1700 and 2100 simultaneously.
EDIT: It appears that the specs on this phone are somewhat ambiguous. The phone supports "1700/2100/AWS". It's not clear whether the phone supports BOTH Band I (Europe 2100) and Band IV (N. America 1700/2100). There are very sporadic reports that 3G does indeed work in Europe, and hence, Band I. There are other reports to the contrary. It could be that one group is right and one is wrong, and it could also be that there are multiple batches.

floepie said:
This phone is quad band for voice and GPRS/EDGE data - meaning 800, 1900 for N. America and 900, 1800 for Europe. It does not support the 2100 3G band as found in Europe. 3G is only supported over the AWS band in N. America, which is *both* 1700 and 2100 simultaneously.
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Please set your facts straight / upgrade your knowledge.
AWS is using frequencies in 1700-ish and 2100-ish MHz range.
But:
2100 MHz is a separate band, found in Europe, as well as in most of the world.
It's supported by this phone, regardless of AWS.
I'm using it RIGHT NOW.
And it happens to be fully functional.
When phone specs refer to frequency, they actually refer to an operating band name.
MT4G technical specs state that it supports 1700 and 2100 bands - which are IV and I, respectively.
Thus, it works in Europe, using band I.
And I'm only referring to UMTS bands, not GSM.

Jack_R1 said:
Please set your facts straight / upgrade your knowledge.
AWS is using frequencies in 1700-ish and 2100-ish MHz range.
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Nice edit! Looks like you've upgraded yourself too.
Jack_R1 said:
I'm using it RIGHT NOW.
And it happens to be fully functional.
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...while others claim otherwise. See my "edit" above.
Jack_R1 said:
When phone specs refer to frequency, they actually refer to an operating band name.
MT4G technical specs state that it supports 1700 and 2100 bands - which are IV and I, respectively.
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Wikipedia isn't so great for supporting evidence. Also doesn't explain why the manufacturer lists the 3G specs as "1700/2100/AWS". The AWS is both ambiguous and redundant if the above were true.

floepie said:
Nice edit! Looks like you've upgraded yourself too.
...while others claim otherwise. See my "edit" above.
Wikipedia isn't so great for supporting evidence. Also doesn't explain why the manufacturer lists the 3G specs as "1700/2100/AWS". The AWS is both ambiguous and redundant if the above were true.
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Yes, edited the post. My problem - sometimes the urge to make sure I'm not writing bullstuff occurs after I actually write some
I'll explain the sporadic reports: at least in part of Europe, the coverage is 900/2100 bands and not only 2100 band. In these cases, phones like Nexus One would work, but Mytouch 4G wouldn't. There is another Wikipedia link, list of UMTS carriers with their bandwidth, and you can see which countries are "affected". I remember for sure that France is.
Very few people are credible sources for reports.
First Google result for "Mytouch 4G specs":
http://mytouch.t-mobile.com/mytouch-3g-slide-phone-specifications
UMTS: Yes; Bands: 1700/2100
I don't see any mention of AWS and 1700 in the same place as 2 different bands. And I don't believe that specs should be taken from other sites, that aren't hosting official data. They're definitely not so great for supporting evidence
The phone is 100% working with 2100 band.

Fair enough. Although, it states directly on the box ----> "1700/AWS/2100". Therein lies the ambiguity and/or redundancy.

hi,
would 3G work in the UK with this phone? O2 in Uk uses 2100 W-CDMA so would it work?
Does anyone have it in the UK?
sorry if this is a stupid question.

Aiex Rlder said:
hi,
would 3G work in the UK with this phone? O2 in Uk uses 2100 W-CDMA so would it work?
Does anyone have it in the UK?
sorry if this is a stupid question.
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I use O2 in Ireland with my mt4g when I'm over there with no problems, however my O2 plan is pay as you go with no data so I cant comment on the data there.

I bought a one month PAYG data-only plan while in Sweden (Telia).
I was averaging 3-4mb downloads in areas where I got 3G reception (reception at my in-law's summer house, on the other hand, is a different matter).

I am going over to europe soon, i plan on just turning on wifi and starbucks hope all over faster than 3G

any more helpful insights anyone?

I believe you've got your answer.
The phone works with 2100 band, so you'll have 3G.

[Q] Difference btwn Carrier phone(t-mobile, AT&T etc.) & International n9005 LTE

[Q] Difference btwn Carrier phone(t-mobile, AT&T etc.) & International n9005 LTE
Hi,
I would like to know if theres a difference between a carrier phone(t-mobile, AT&T etc.) & International n9005 LTE? I try looking up the information and through the forums but I'm still kind of confuse and dont have a set answer. I know the carrier phone is n900 but other than that is there any differences? I live in the US. now but I use to have international phones in case I travel, rooting wise and etc. But after the regional lock issue, I'm not sure which version to buy now.
Thank you!!:good:

mrpug said:
Hi,
I would like to know if theres a difference between a carrier phone(t-mobile, AT&T etc.) & International n9005 LTE? I try looking up the information and through the forums but I'm still kind of confuse and dont have a set answer. I know the carrier phone is n900 but other than that is there any differences? I live in the US. now but I use to have international phones in case I travel, rooting wise and etc. But after the regional lock issue, I'm not sure which version to buy now.
Thank you!!:good:
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It is my understanding and I am sure I will be corrected that the N900T, A V etc are not region locked. Just carrier locked. Fellow forum member did a nice write up about the differences of the US Carrier versions. His name is Mircury.

As far as I know the carrier models are carrier and region locked but if you root the device you can use ChainFire's region away app and you will be able to swap out sim cards based on your location. T-Mobile just unveiled free world roaming data usage though and with T-Mobile you can use WiFi calling so if you are outside the country you can use the data and make calls on WiFi at no additional cost.

The Carrier-specific versions have a few LTE bands unlocked that the International one doesn't.

Limeybastard said:
It is my understanding and I am sure I will be corrected that the N900T, A V etc are not region locked. Just carrier locked. Fellow forum member did a nice write up about the differences of the US Carrier versions. His name is Mircury.
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ah thanks, found it, was really helpful:good:
so technically speaking international n9005LTE will not be compatible with t-mobile's 3g or 4g LTE? as the bandwidth as I see the people mention in that forum is not compatible?
I went to a store to check the phone out and a seller of the international n9005 told me the data will be running on H? would you happen to know what it means?
Thanks !

AdmiralCF420 said:
As far as I know the carrier models are carrier and region locked but if you root the device you can use ChainFire's region away app and you will be able to swap out sim cards based on your location. T-Mobile just unveiled free world roaming data usage though and with T-Mobile you can use WiFi calling so if you are outside the country you can use the data and make calls on WiFi at no additional cost.
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Ah I see, so would you assume that getting the T-mobile one will be better compare to the international n9005LTE?

mrpug said:
ah thanks, found it, was really helpful:good:
so technically speaking international n9005LTE will not be compatible with t-mobile's 3g or 4g LTE? as the bandwidth as I see the people mention in that forum is not compatible?
I went to a store to check the phone out and a seller of the international n9005 told me the data will be running on H? would you happen to know what it means?
Thanks !
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HSPA perhaps? I am not rooted or have I used Chairfires method. I have two options to prove this case, either buy a UK sim card here and put it in my phone and see what occurs or wait til I get there.
The N900T seems to okay, yes if you want to use it here on ATT or T mobile at least. With perhaps a little roaming overseas.
There is also another thread named something like Region locked, its over 100 pages, good luck!
Here you go..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2457964

mrpug said:
ah thanks, found it, was really helpful:good:
so technically speaking international n9005LTE will not be compatible with t-mobile's 3g or 4g LTE? as the bandwidth as I see the people mention in that forum is not compatible?
I went to a store to check the phone out and a seller of the international n9005 told me the data will be running on H? would you happen to know what it means?
Thanks !
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The order of speed is this: (Network/Signal Designation)
GSM/G (2G)
GPRS/G+ (2.5G)
EDGE/E (2.75G)
UMTS/3G (3G)
HSPA/H (3.5G)
HSPA+/H+ (3.75G)
LTE (3.9G)
LTE Advanced (4G)
So H is HSPA = 3.5G.
International N9005 can get the 3G signal on pretty much any frequency, including US. It's the LTE bands that are incompatible.
T-Mobile US runs LTE on the 1700Mhz band, and 3G on the 1900Mhz band.
AT&T and Verizon use the 700, 1700 and 2100Mhz band for LTE, and 850 and 1900Mhz for 3G.
Sprint uses the 800, 1900 and 2500Mhz for LTE, and 800 and 1900Mhz for 3G.
N9005 International gets:
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G/LTE 800 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600.

Limeybastard said:
HSPA perhaps? I am not rooted or have I used Chairfires method. I have two options to prove this case, either buy a UK sim card here and put it in my phone and see what occurs or wait til I get there.
The N900T seems to okay, yes if you want to use it here on ATT or T mobile at least. With perhaps a little roaming overseas.
There is also another thread named something like Region locked, its over 100 pages, good luck!
Here you go..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2457964
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yea I read through that whole forum but was just confused about the differences

ShadowLea said:
The order of speed is this: (Network/Signal Designation)
GSM/G (2G)
GPRS/G+ (2.5G)
EDGE/E (2.75G)
UMTS/3G (3G)
HSPA/H (3.5G)
HSPA+/H+ (3.75G)
LTE (3.9G)
LTE Advanced (4G)
So H is HSPA = 3.5G.
International N9005 can get the 3G signal on pretty much any frequency, including US. It's the LTE bands that are incompatible.
T-Mobile US runs LTE on the 1700Mhz band, and 3G on the 1900Mhz band.
AT&T and Verizon use the 700, 1700 and 2100Mhz band for LTE, and 850 and 1900Mhz for 3G.
Sprint uses the 800, 1900 and 2500Mhz for LTE, and 800 and 1900Mhz for 3G.
N9005 International gets:
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G/LTE 800 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600.
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Let us not forgot what other Bands the T MobileN900T has for LTE not just based on what they run here..

ShadowLea said:
The order of speed is this: (Network/Signal Designation)
GSM/G (2G)
GPRS/G+ (2.5G)
EDGE/E (2.75G)
UMTS/3G (3G)
HSPA/H (3.5G)
HSPA+/H+ (3.75G)
LTE (3.9G)
LTE Advanced (4G)
So H is HSPA = 3.5G.
International N9005 can get the 3G signal on pretty much any frequency, including US. It's the LTE bands that are incompatible.
T-Mobile US runs LTE on the 1700Mhz band, and 3G on the 1900Mhz band.
AT&T and Verizon use the 700, 1700 and 2100Mhz band for LTE, and 850 and 1900Mhz for 3G.
Sprint uses the 800, 1900 and 2500Mhz for LTE, and 800 and 1900Mhz for 3G.
N9005 International gets:
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G/LTE 800 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600.
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ok now im understanding it better, I was trying to find information through the forums but I guess I got confuse reading information here and there cause some people were saying it runs on 2g and some says 3g.
Thank alot!:laugh:

mrpug said:
ok now im understanding it better, I was trying to find information through the forums but I guess I got confuse reading information here and there cause some people were saying it runs on 2g and some says 3g.
Thank alot!:laugh:
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I think in all honesty the best speed I will get with my Note 3 N900T in the UK will be 3G. Not until they start using band 7 2600 which is still not used but reserved for future.

Limeybastard said:
Let us not forgot what other Bands the T MobileN900T has for LTE not just based on what they run here..
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I just compared the N9005, which he asked about, with the US cellular providers. Having multiple bands is lovely, but if your provider isn't using them, they're also a bit pointless
mrpug said:
ok now im understanding it better, I was trying to find information through the forums but I guess I got confuse reading information here and there cause some people were saying it runs on 2g and some says 3g.
Thank alot!:laugh:
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It can get a bit confusing, yes.

ShadowLea said:
I just compared the N9005, which he asked about, with the US cellular providers. Having multiple bands is lovely, but if your provider isn't using them, they're also a bit pointless
It can get a bit confusing, yes.
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I thought he was like me and wanting to travel.? LOL

Limeybastard said:
I thought he was like me and wanting to travel.? LOL
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Your both correct lols :laugh: I mostly live in the US but for when I do travel which is often, its nice to know what the phone can and cannot do.

mrpug said:
Your both correct lols :laugh: I mostly live in the US but for when I do travel which is often, its nice to know what the phone can and cannot do.
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Don't worry I've done my research and concluded, if you live in the USA and travel then go for the N900T. I did :good:

Limeybastard said:
Don't worry I've done my research and concluded, if you live in the USA and travel then go for the N900T. I did :good:
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lols How often do you travel? Majority of the time i'm in the US

mrpug said:
lols How often do you travel? Majority of the time i'm in the US
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Not much, but when I do travel ( excuse the pun ) I go to the United Kingdom and occasionally whilst there travel to Gay Paris.:laugh:

Limeybastard said:
Not much, but when I do travel ( excuse the pun ) I go to the United Kingdom and occasionally whilst there travel to Gay Paris.:laugh:
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haha:laugh:, at least your traveling to Paris, I know people who would love to go there but haven't got the chance yet.

ShadowLea said:
The order of speed is this: (Network/Signal Designation)
GSM/G (2G)
GPRS/G+ (2.5G)
EDGE/E (2.75G)
UMTS/3G (3G)
HSPA/H (3.5G)
HSPA+/H+ (3.75G)
LTE (3.9G)
LTE Advanced (4G)
So H is HSPA = 3.5G.
International N9005 can get the 3G signal on pretty much any frequency, including US. It's the LTE bands that are incompatible.
T-Mobile US runs LTE on the 1700Mhz band, and 3G on the 1900Mhz band.
AT&T and Verizon use the 700, 1700 and 2100Mhz band for LTE, and 850 and 1900Mhz for 3G.
Sprint uses the 800, 1900 and 2500Mhz for LTE, and 800 and 1900Mhz for 3G.
N9005 International gets:
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G/LTE 800 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600.
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So pretty much you won't be able to get a factory unlocked LTE Note 3 working on T-Mobile LTE? Please tell me I'm mistaken.