I thought the display was supposed to be the hog? - Nexus One General

Weird...3h 34m since unplugged and I'm at 52%. With Android System being the top dog...uh, hog. It's usually the Display that's on top, but today it's the Android System. Is there something wrong with my phone?

what does your battery usage say is using the most percentage wise?

SiNJiN76 said:
Weird...3h 34m since unplugged and I'm at 52%. With Android System being the top dog...uh, hog. It's usually the Display that's on top, but today it's the Android System. Is there something wrong with my phone?
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lol...how long have u used the screen in that 3h and 34m? if your phone has been on standyby then the display couldn't have used as much of the battery as ud normally expect

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lol...how long have u used the screen in that 3h and 34m? if your phone has been on standyby then the display couldn't have used as much of the battery as ud normally expect
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Well, that's just it...I have been using it...so shouldn't the Display be the one that's using like 90%...because that's how it was on stock. Last night...I took it off the charger @100...trickle charged about an hour or so...and within 5 minutes...I lost 8%!
Also, lately...it been running a bit warm.
So, I went back to stock rom....and as soon as it booted up...I checked the Battery Usage...Display 87%. Android System 6% (other ROMs would say Android System 90%, Display 9% or so). So, for some odd reason...when I use a Modded ROM it's making the System overwork itself...thus draining my battery exponentially faster.

SiNJiN76 said:
Well, that's just it...I have been using it...so shouldn't the Display be the one that's using like 90%...because that's how it was on stock. Last night...I took it off the charger @100...trickle charged about an hour or so...and within 5 minutes...I lost 8%!
Also, lately...it been running a bit warm.
So, I went back to stock rom....and as soon as it booted up...I checked the Battery Usage...Display 87%. Android System 6% (other ROMs would say Android System 90%, Display 9% or so). So, for some odd reason...when I use a Modded ROM it's making the System overwork itself...thus draining my battery exponentially faster.
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it happens bro...my 1st 10% used to drop like crazy. what u need to do is charge your phone to max, then delete the batterystats.bin file, turn the phone off, and leave it on charge for another 30mins-1hr even tho the light will say its green.
i did this and whereas before 5mins = ~6% battery drop, 5mins = still on 100%. apparantly the battery meter thing gets innaccurate over time, but overall you'll still get same battery usage, as dropping from around 85-65 will take longer to make up for the initial quick drop. I mean this in terms of numbers, not that the actual battery life is 'stronger' at 85-65. Hope you get what i mean, but i wouldn't worry about it unless you can't get through a whole day with normal use.
also try using the UVed kernel if u really want to save more battery. i use UVed and OCed and to be honest i get through a whole day easily. but each to their own

The screen basically sips power now -- it's AMOLED -- and OLED displays don't require nearly as much power as the regular LCD screens on most phones.

adam18488 said:
it happens bro...my 1st 10% used to drop like crazy. what u need to do is charge your phone to max, then delete the batterystats.bin file, turn the phone off, and leave it on charge for another 30mins-1hr even tho the light will say its green.
i did this and whereas before 5mins = ~6% battery drop, 5mins = still on 100%. apparantly the battery meter thing gets innaccurate over time, but overall you'll still get same battery usage, as dropping from around 85-65 will take longer to make up for the initial quick drop. I mean this in terms of numbers, not that the actual battery life is 'stronger' at 85-65. Hope you get what i mean, but i wouldn't worry about it unless you can't get through a whole day with normal use.
also try using the UVed kernel if u really want to save more battery. i use UVed and OCed and to be honest i get through a whole day easily. but each to their own
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Thanks man...I guess my flashing/updating/flashing/trying new ROMs...etc...kind of got me a bit on the paranoid side of things. Like uh, maybe there's a bug in this build...or something like that. LoL. Yeah...I've been flashing like crazy these last couple of weeks! Anyway, I've always wanted to try the UV/OC...guess now's a good a time as any. Where exactly is the Batterystats.bin file located...or is that the Wipe Battery under RA's Recovery?

I have also noticed this with modded roms but my experience is that my battery has actually lasted longer than with the stock rom. Since upgrading to CM I've been getting between 13-16 hours of battery life with moderate use of display and browsing. When I had the stock rom, the display would dominate but I would only get between 7-8 hours of battery life. I don't know what's going on but CM's rom improved my battery life.

"Her?"
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SiNJiN76 said:
Thanks man...I guess my flashing/updating/flashing/trying new ROMs...etc...kind of got me a bit on the paranoid side of things. Like uh, maybe there's a bug in this build...or something like that. LoL. Yeah...I've been flashing like crazy these last couple of weeks! Anyway, I've always wanted to try the UV/OC...guess now's a good a time as any. Where exactly is the Batterystats.bin file located...or is that the Wipe Battery under RA's Recovery?
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its located in /data/system. just use a file explorer with root access to delete it.
just a note, if ur a heavy user the UV/OC wont be the best option. ull get slightly faster speeds but the battery will get eaten. if ur a heavy user, then go for the UV @ stock speeds.

adam18488 said:
its located in /data/system. just use a file explorer with root access to delete it.
just a note, if ur a heavy user the UV/OC wont be the best option. ull get slightly faster speeds but the battery will get eaten. if ur a heavy user, then go for the UV @ stock speeds.
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Thanks adam18488. That did the trick! I unplugged this morning just before 6 (after plugging in totally dead @ 930pm)...listen to music for an hour at the gym...checked a couple emails...got back home and as I'm typing this @ 825...battery is still at 91%. That's also with the GPS on...but it really doesn't do damage unless it's being used by an app...so that's why I keep it on.

adam18488 said:
it happens bro...my 1st 10% used to drop like crazy. what u need to do is charge your phone to max, then delete the batterystats.bin file, turn the phone off, and leave it on charge for another 30mins-1hr even tho the light will say its green.
i did this and whereas before 5mins = ~6% battery drop, 5mins = still on 100%. apparantly the battery meter thing gets innaccurate over time, but overall you'll still get same battery usage, as dropping from around 85-65 will take longer to make up for the initial quick drop. I mean this in terms of numbers, not that the actual battery life is 'stronger' at 85-65. Hope you get what i mean, but i wouldn't worry about it unless you can't get through a whole day with normal use.
also try using the UVed kernel if u really want to save more battery. i use UVed and OCed and to be honest i get through a whole day easily. but each to their own
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Yeah my first 20% used to drop in about an hour. I let my phone die completely. As in turn itself off. Then I would boot into recovery mode with what battery I had and use "Clear battery stats". Then I would boot the phone again normal to drain the last bit of battery. After that I charged it all night with it being off.
I did this for three days and now it's running like a champ.

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I NEED HELP!!!! My battery gets empty too fast

I've been reading and readind all the post i can get and tried do deactivate al the functions i could remember but without any good results. My phone isn't rooted and it is as it came ( beside some apps I've installed). I don't know what to do more. PLEASE give me some more advices.
Thanks
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ok do a wipe and discharge the battery completely and recharge fully without the use
what. do you mean with wipe? I'm a beginner is the droid world. ..
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restored everything from factory
ok. thanks for the imput
can you give me the idea of how much time should i expect to complete charge of a nexus one battery, while using it. mine takes 2 or at most 3 h. i think ot is fast. should i be worried?
I prefer to charge it while it's off. Using it while it's charging emits more heat than usual, thus being bad for the battery :x.
You don't need to turn it off to charge it, it's true it may become warmer but it's far from being dangerous to the phone and won't harm the battery. How long is your battery lasting? You said you're new to Android so I'm not sure if you've had a smart phone before but it's typical for a smart phone to last between 8-24 hours depending on how much you use it. It will last less than that if you're streaming music and youtube all day.
yesterday my phone lasted 5 h at most. and yes i'm a newbe.
during last night after emptied
my battery i did a full charge while the phone was off. lets see today
The screen is a battery eater, avoid watching movies or playing games or it will last 5h. My N1 battery can last 4 days if I don't turn on the screen but if I turn it ON it loses 1% every 2min
For better battery results:
-Use a task manager/killer app from the Market to kill running apps
-Use Undervolted Kernel (Root needed)
-Use 2G only when you don't need 3G
-Don't use CM Roms because they eat more battery than other Roms
-So far the best Rom for battery is the Desire Rom(but still no BT)
the thing that bothers the most is that 90% of my battery use goes to tbe screen. so it doesn't matter how well i tweek my phone... do you get my point.
i don't watch movies in it. i use a taskmanager as you said, and since yesterday stop using 3G (and i think I'm seeing some diference). it's amazing when you say 4 days (with the screen tirn off) - but to me is a little hard to not using it: I bought this phone so i don't need to allways bring my laptop with me. about what you said about the roms i don't feel able to mess with that.
1. Choice of wallpaper matters. Experiment to see which ones use less battery power for you. (e.g. Magic Smoke live wallpaper is good for saving battery power.)
2. Brightness of screen setting important. NO auto. Select lowest possible manual setting & you still have plenty of light. You can raise level for those instantces when you need extra light.
3. GPS off, except when needed.
4. Seidio 3200 mah battery with provided cover is excellent. No battery longevity problems ever since using this battery. (also using other tips mentioned here)
5. Bluetooth always on, no problem.
6. Wi-Fi on when you need it.
7. 2G/3G switching unnecessary.
8. After total discharge or new battery, let charge at least 12-24 hrs. (this particularly applies to the first few cycles of battery use) After several total discharge/recharge cycles, recharge whenever. Nothing is gained by letting battery totally discharge after that. If you have correctly charged your battery to 100%, remove it, reinsert it, & find % power loss, you may have battery with leak. Replace battery.
I have tried many methods of saving battery, and by far
JUICE DEFENDER
is the best method I have tried yet.
It basically makes it so your APN(Data) only turns on once ever 15 minutes Or when the screen is on.
You can adjust settigns with pay version, but the free version is VERY good still..
Combined with the 850mv undervolted kernels I am draining maybe 3% per hour on average with some light use(regular amount for me, light for most)
I would give it a try. No risk with it.
Combined with the 850mv undervolted kernels I am draining maybe 3% per hour on average with some light use(regular amount for me, light for most)
I would give it a try. No risk with it.
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can you elaborate on that what implicated? and what do i have to? doesn't the phone need to be rooted?
I'm starting to see the light at the end of the tunel. usually by this hour I'm beginning to use my second battery charge of the day. right now I'm at 50% of the charge i made last night (after totally emptied the battery made a full charge with the phone turned of). deactivated GPS, sinc, using only 2G and a lot of self motivation to not touch the screen. it's better, but still made my order at expansys for a backup battery and a dock to use at home with the possibility to charge the spare battery.
today my battery had juice for 13h. from 9am to 10pm. it's a improvement. .. really is.
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today my battery had juice for 13h. from 9am to 10pm. it's a improvement. .. really is.
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Dude, my advice - don't worry too much about wallpaper/wifi/BT and all that.
Here's my short battery story.. I bought it 3 weeks ago and no matter what I did, it'd last me 4-6 hours and die. No matter what I did with brightness/WiFi, it made little impact on the battery life.
Now, 3 weeks later, I have:
100% stock AT&T N1
Only 3G, never 2G
100% brightness
more phone calls per day
Wifi/BT/GPS always ON
Always use live wallpaper (gray neural network)
2 email accounts on PUSH (exchange + gmail)
And my battery lasts me 8am to 10pm easy. I just charge it overnight.
So, cycle it (full, complete drain) 1-3 times, then just use it normally. It'll be much better after 2 weeks or so. Also, HTC tech recommended me to use "trickle" charge (charge it with USB, not AC).
So, cycle it (full, complete drain) 1-3 times, then just use it normally. It'll be much better after 2 weeks or so. Also, HTC tech recommended me to use "trickle" charge (charge it with USB, not AC).
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hope you're right. mine is now 2 weeks old. i though that was better to charge using AC. i had another cellular some years ago and the battery got messed up because the i charged very often with the computer through usb. are you sure?
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Battery Charging Tips (Golden 100%)

Just want to share my experience of 'best' charging method that can maximize the battery life of my Nexus one.
Firstly, let me introduce my equip:
- Machine: Nexus one
- Rom: FRF91 Stock, Deodexed, rooted, busybox... (Geo411m)
- Kernel: intersectRaven's 2.6.35_AVS-925mV_CFS_20100802_1056.zip
- Control: SetCPU, Interactive: 245-960Mhz when on, and 245-245 when screen off
The key method of obtaining max. battery life is the 'GOLDEN' time from 100% drop down to 99%. Once the battery shows dropping from 100 to 99%, the dropping speed is quite stably fast onwards
So, how to retain 100% longer before dropping to 99%? Below are the steps that really work for me:
1) Charge the phone to green light, some where between 90% and 100% (say: 95%)
2) Disconnect USB charging cable
3) Turn off the phone
4) Connect USB charging cable and charge the phone, it should show orange light
5) Set a timer, remember to *ONLY charge the phone for around 20-25mins*
6) The concept is NOT to charge the phone until you get green light. In order words, you need to charge the phone from 95% for 20-25mins where the light is kept ORANGE with the phone turned off!!!
7) After 20-25mins, disconnect USB cable and power on your nexus phone
8) You are done and the battery should last longer before dropping to 99%
9) Time in step (5) depends, you need to trial-&-error
For my experience, I normally charge the phone before I sleep and disconnect the charger. In the morning when I get up, it usually shows around 95% of battery. Then, I power off the phone and charge it. And then I take breakfast, bla bla bla ~ and after around 20mins, disconnect the charger and go to work. The battery can retain 100% for around 30mins of continuous web browsing, facebooking... and when I reach my office, sometimes, the battery still shows 100% !!!
So, above is my experience of how to maximize the 100% retaining time.
Please feel free to try and share with us whether it really works for you
Great advice.
Personally, I can't really be bothered with going out of my way to be overly concerned about battery life. I don't play games on my phone -- that will change when Angry Birds is released for Android -- nor do I watch movies, and I don't really do too much web browsing. Sometimes I listen to music, but not often.
I can go 12-14 hours of normal use (mostly Twitter and text messaging) and that will put me around 45-50%. I'm never somewhere that I can't charge the phone if I need to; USB at work, regular charge at home, and a charger in the car.
All of these tips and tricks for extending battery life are neat, but why bother?
^ Well looking at your usage, and the plenty charging points, of course you dont care. However, some ppl browse a lot, play games, so every last inch of battery life means something.
I just keep spare batteries in my pockets =D
I will try your golden tips.. then I will write my thoughts.
I thank you for sharing.
Screwing up the battery meter does not get you more battery life, period, and I suspect your shenanigans here is doing that. The battery has a set capacity, it's not going to charge more than that.
The Nexus One and a lot of other modern phones with modern batteries DO NOT trickle charge, they charge to 100% and STOP charging. When the phone drops to a certain limit, it charges more. Repeat as long as it's on the charger. This is why you might see it "drop a few percent" when you pull the charger.
Yea this sounds like a huge placebo effect.
Well I just did this, been off charger for over an hour.. still 100% after over an hour and two reboots.
At 1378mAh right now, didn't get a reading straight after first reboot unfortunately.
I'm also trialing autorun killer. Disabled a free services I don't use.. seemingly increased startup time.
heya,
Don't you mean decreased startup time?
Cheers,
Victor
Yeah, that's what I mean.
victorhooi said:
heya,
Don't you mean decreased startup time?
Cheers,
Victor
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Goonish said:
Well I just did this, been off charger for over an hour.. still 100% after over an hour and two reboots.
At 1378mAh right now, didn't get a reading straight after first reboot unfortunately.
I'm also trialing autorun killer. Disabled a free services I don't use.. seemingly increased startup time.
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How do you figure out your mAh level? Spare parts only shows me mV.
Thanks
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This is placebo. In the OP you even say after it finally drops to 99% it drops fast after that. It's because the phone wasn't at 100% all that time. It was giving you a false reading from messing with the charging pattern.
The best way I've found to charge the phone is to delete the battery stats, turn the phone off, and charge it until it's green. I get a great day of battery life with the phone that way.
Ryjabo said:
Great advice.
Personally, I can't really be bothered with going out of my way to be overly concerned about battery life. I don't play games on my phone -- that will change when Angry Birds is released for Android -- nor do I watch movies, and I don't really do too much web browsing. Sometimes I listen to music, but not often. I can go 12-14 hours of normal use (mostly Twitter and text messaging) and that will put me around 45-50%. I'm never somewhere that I can't charge the phone if I need to; USB at work, regular charge at home, and a charger in the car. All of these tips and tricks for extending battery life are neat, but why bother?
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Totally agree...I just charge when & where necessary and never worry about it! Don't have the time and it seems to last long enough for me to work & play
I had already discovered this and was looking for a fool proof way but I guess you beat me to it. Happens when you traveling alot. For me, I have gotten over 1500mAh more than once..some times 100% would last me half a day too. So it's worth it, my question is whether or not this is bad for your battery? or long term battery life.
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I had already discovered this and was looking for a fool proof way but I guess you beat me to it. Happens when you traveling alot. For me, I have gotten over 1500mAh more than once..some times 100% would last me half a day too. So it's worth it, my question is whether or not this is bad for your battery? or long term battery life.
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I'm fairly sure that the Milliampere-hour (mAh) is the capacity of the battery (the amount of energy it will store). How can you get "over 1500mAh" on a 1400 mAh battery? None of you are making any sense what so ever. You can't get more energy out of a battery by charging it a specific way. If I gave you a bucket that held 10lbs of sand and you filled it with 8lbs of sand and waited a few minutes then started filling the rest slowly, it wont hold more sand. This is nothing more than a placebo effect. The only way to get more time from a battery is to reduce the amount of consumption. The only way to do that is to use your phone less or make your hardware use the battery less such as undervolting your CPU. I tried for the longest time to explain to people that underclocking your CPU does absolutely nothing. If you're still running at the same voltage you're still consuming the same amount of power.
Stop messing around with the battery and the battery stats.
Could someone please use the phone until it goes off in the evening? What percentage is shown on the batteryicon when it goes off? 20% or what?
xPatriicK said:
Stop messing around with the battery and the battery stats.
Could someone please use the phone until it goes off in the evening? What percentage is shown on the batteryicon when it goes off? 20% or what?
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Actually it's not a good idea to fully discharge the phone often.
Source: http://www.batteryuniversity.com/
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Actually it's not a good idea to fully discharge the phone often.
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I know but once isnt often.
Btw we have some great battery threads here.. somewhere.. general or accessories forums..
xPatriicK said:
I know but once isnt often.
Btw we have some great battery threads here.. somewhere.. general or accessories forums..
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Yeah, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=669497
I have been using ultimate juice defender and battery life has doubled with usual usage. Maybe this can be considered as an alternative to longer battery life
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Unique Battery problem

Sorry to start another thread on battery issues but I was unable to find a scenario like mine.
Hey everybody, Im new to the android scene, just got my vibrant less than a month ago. Before that I had an Iphone 3g. So far I like the phone but the battery life is horrible. When I surf the internet on wifi or 3g I noticed that I use like 3-5% in a matter of 5 mins. Is this normal? I consider myself to be a light-moderate user and have been getting and average of 12 hours or so on my vibrant. Also if it makes any difference when my phone is idle or being used my temperature runs around the high 80's low 90's but when being charged it drops to the low 80's or high 70's. What is going on? How can I get more 20 hours on my phone? With the iphone I used to get an easy 15 hours and still have like 40-50% remaining.
aamir123 said:
Sorry to start another thread on battery issues but I was unable to find a scenario like mine.
Hey everybody, Im new to the android scene, just got my vibrant less than a month ago. Before that I had an Iphone 3g. So far I like the phone but the battery life is horrible. When I surf the internet on wifi or 3g I noticed that I use like 3-5% in a matter of 5 mins. Is this normal? I consider myself to be a light-moderate user and have been getting and average of 12 hours or so on my vibrant. Also if it makes any difference when my phone is idle or being used my temperature runs around the high 80's low 90's but when being charged it drops to the low 80's or high 70's. What is going on? How can I get more 20 hours on my phone? With the iphone I used to get an easy 15 hours and still have like 40-50% remaining.
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Try a different rom?
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When I first got the vibrant, it had pretty bad battery life, I would lose like 25% while sleeping 8-10 hrs. So light usage would be like a day. Slowly I started to get longer battery life (2 days on light usage). Recently I could get up to like 3.5 days on real light usage. After updating to JI6, max I can get now is like 3 days. I didn't really do much and I tripled my battery life by just giving it time.
Thanks burntrat I guess ill be patient. And I must mention that I am running stock.i was just worried because my battery temperature gets colder when charging and warmer when idle or running.
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When I first got the vibrant, it had pretty bad battery life, I would lose like 25% while sleeping 8-10 hrs. So light usage would be like a day. Slowly I started to get longer battery life (2 days on light usage). Recently I could get up to like 3.5 days on real light usage. After updating to JI6, max I can get now is like 3 days. I didn't really do much and I tripled my battery life by just giving it time.
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Hey burntrat or anybody, has your battery ever acted sort of schizophrenic on you? I mean one day I leave it on standby and its drains like 1% in 7-10 hours another day I leave it on standby and it drains 18% in about 4 hours. Whats going on?
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Hey burntrat or anybody, has your battery ever acted sort of schizophrenic on you? I mean one day I leave it on standby and its drains like 1% in 7-10 hours another day I leave it on standby and it drains 18% in about 4 hours. Whats going on?
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It happens
If ur super concerned get these 2 apps
~juice defender
~ super power
My battery has been draining inconsistently lately. It drains faster in the 50-100% level. Under 50%, it feels like it drains slower while doing the same stuff.
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It happens
If ur super concerned get these 2 apps
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Juice defender doesnt work for me, but ill have to try superpower, anyways I just feel that its weird that without anything changing, my battery drains differently on different days. Burntrat I think thats normal for every phone, the last 50% always seem to drain slower.
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if your phone is draining a lot during standby or sleeping. There may be a rogue app out there or an app that didnt shut down properly. (I guess that would mean a rogue app)
ELStiko said:
if your phone is draining a lot during standby or sleeping. There may be a rogue app out there or an app that didnt shut down properly. (I guess that would mean a rogue app)
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nope task manager shows everything as clear, and if I have a rogue app why is it acting up one day and not the other? Btw it seems to skip a daybetween bad battery life
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nope task manager shows everything as clear, and if I have a rogue app why is it acting up one day and not the other? Btw it seems to skip a daybetween bad battery life
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I had the same problem, stock task manger doesn't show all of the apps.
Check ur services, go to settings apps manage apps running applications.
Or instead of that I brought the advanced task killer back to check on things
@aamir123 and burntrat: maybe you guys need to calibrate your battery? Also the stock rom usually has a lot of bloatware running in the background. Flashing a custom rom oughta do the trick.
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@aamir123 and burntrat: maybe you guys need to calibrate your battery? Also the stock rom usually has a lot of bloatware running in the background. Flashing a custom rom oughta do the trick.
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How do you recalibrate the battery?
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Try this. Download the system panel app from the market. You can set it to monitor your system and it will chart what applications are running and how much they are using the cpu. If you find you have some unnecessary bloatware running in the background download titanium backup and freeze those apps.
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How do you recalibrate the battery?
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There are a lot of different ways mentioned in different forums. Try this:
Let your battery drain all the way to the point when it turns off by itself.
Charge it while its off until its full.
Unplug it, turn the phone on, then plug it in again.
After it reaches 100, unplug the charger and turn your phone off.
Once off, plug it in and let the charging complete.
Once complete, unplug it and turn the phone on. When everything has loaded, turn the phone off (note: no charging involved in this step.)
After it turns off, charge it one last time until 100%. After this, go into recovery and clear battery info (or cache, I forget). There you go
Oh, and its better if you don't download too many apps that monitor battery usage, cpu etc. cuz they will contribute to the battery consumption.
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chikin said:
There are a lot of different ways mentioned in different forums. Try this:
Let your battery drain all the way to the point when it turns off by itself.
Charge it while its off until its full.
Unplug it, turn the phone on, then plug it in again.
After it reaches 100, unplug the charger and turn your phone off.
Once off, plug it in and let the charging complete.
Once complete, unplug it and turn the phone on. When everything has loaded, turn the phone off (note: no charging involved in this step.)
After it turns off, charge it one last time until 100%. After this, go into recovery and clear battery info (or cache, I forget). There you go
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It isn't a good idea to let your battery drain all the way to zero since it is lithium ion. I think skipping that part and just charging it when it's on to full, then off to full, then on to full, then off to full and then wiping battery stats would suffice. Also you need to have clockwork recovery to wipe battery stats.
jimmynguyen91 said:
It isn't a good idea to let your battery drain all the way to zero since it is lithium ion. I think skipping that part and just charging it when it's on to full, then off to full, then on to full, then off to full and then wiping battery stats would suffice. Also you need to have clockwork recovery to wipe battery stats.
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When the phone turns off by itself, the battery still has some juice left in it to prevent it from losing the ability to charge, if that's what you meant by not a good idea cuz its lithium ion. If thats not what you meant, then please explain why.
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When I first got the vibrant, it had pretty bad battery life, I would lose like 25% while sleeping 8-10 hrs. So light usage would be like a day. Slowly I started to get longer battery life (2 days on light usage). Recently I could get up to like 3.5 days on real light usage. After updating to JI6, max I can get now is like 3 days. I didn't really do much and I tripled my battery life by just giving it time.
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Agreed. In my case, I barely lasted 12 hours on moderate use with any of the JI6 2.1 ROMS (Eugene's, Bionix, Fusion, etc). I think after I updated to 2.2, all of the ROMS have been giving me 18+ hours on moderate-heavy use no matter what modem or kernel I use.
So where is the "unique" problem?
jimmynguyen91 said:
It isn't a good idea to let your battery drain all the way to zero since it is lithium ion. I think skipping that part and just charging it when it's on to full, then off to full, then on to full, then off to full and then wiping battery stats would suffice. Also you need to have clockwork recovery to wipe battery stats.
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This is true.
Try this, it helPed, me get like 10 more hours.
Charge till 100.
Shut down
Plug in usb until the green battery shows up and says completed our something.
Reboot
Charge for5 minutes.
Reboot
Done.

[Q] Reverting from unofficial 2.2 to stock 2.1 without losing apps and settings

I made the mistake of putting 2.2 on my mother's Epic, and she doesn't like the increased battery drain. I'd like to restore her phone back to 2.1, yet she has games on her phone she doesn't want to lose progress on. I've already done a restore to 2.1 from 2.2 on my phone but I did a complete wipe. Would rooting and backing up apps with titanium backup work?
Increased battery drain? I normally get a full day's use out of my battery on DK28. Earlier this week I was above 60 hours of uptime on a single charge.
There is a way to keep apps and settings, but it may cause issues when switching between 2.2 and 2.1. Use clockworkmod to back up the phone. Flash/Odin the 2.1 stuff. Boot back into clockworkmod and Restore->advanced restore->restore /data. You may have problems with force closes after this, but results vary and you may have no troubles at all.
Battery should be MUCH better on 2.2.
On both her phone and mine the drain on battery was pretty noticeable. She's not a big phone technical person but even she noticed it after I updated it for her.
Get mybackuppro and make a backup of just the apps she needs the data on. Then restore that back on 2.1. It will give you the option to backup the apk or the apk and data choose both.
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If you go from 2.1 to 2.2 I would highly recommend a wipe...battery life should be better.
Just wanted to further state that battery for me has been much better on 2.2
After a 8 hour day at work (phone off the charger for ~9 hours) I drop anywhere from 25-32% on average... can't really complain with that
I had substantially worse bttery life on 2.2. It seems to be a common complaint amongst many, while not an issue for others.
I'm suspecting that changes in battery life may be dependent on how you use are using the phone. I am pretty heavy user streaming radio, bluetooth, web, games and a 1 hour difference is pretty noticiable. Now if I was getting 60 hours like that other guy, I doubt I would notice an houror even two difference.
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iil said:
I had substantially worse bttery life on 2.2. It seems to be a common complaint amongst many, while not an issue for others.
I'm suspecting that changes in battery life may be dependent on how you use are using the phone. I am pretty heavy user streaming radio, bluetooth, web, games and a 1 hour difference is pretty noticiable. Now if I was getting 60 hours like that other guy, I doubt I would notice an houror even two difference.
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While some may debate on how necessary it is, have you "recalibrated" your battery? I put recalibrate is quotes because your not actually doing anything to your battery, but erasing the battery stats on the phone, thus allowing your phone to accurately read the percentage of battery left. If no "calibration" is done, it is possible that your phone may say 10% left, when you actually have closer to 30 or so (just an example).
To "calibrate" your battery, charge it up completely, boot into CWM, go to Advanced->Wipe battery stats, boot up the phone and use it until it turns itself off (dont plug it in during this time). This way the phone can accurately determine how much power the battery has left.
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While some may debate on how necessary it is, have you "recalibrated" your battery? I put recalibrate is quotes because your not actually doing anything to your battery, but erasing the battery stats on the phone, thus allowing your phone to accurately read the percentage of battery left. If no "calibration" is done, it is possible that your phone may say 10% left, when you actually have closer to 30 or so (just an example).
To "calibrate" your battery, charge it up completely, boot into CWM, go to Advanced->Wipe battery stats, boot up the phone and use it until it turns itself off (dont plug it in during this time). This way the phone can accurately determine how much power the battery has left.
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I'm in the group with the poor battery life after DK28, I will definitely give this a shot tomorrow morning after I charge up tonight, however, my issue seems to be with the display under battery use it shows to use most of my battery even with very little use of display, even with long phone calls with the display off it about equals the battery use of the phone call, hoping this will fix it for me
I went 10+ hours with 4-1/2 hours of screen on time. heavy internet, moderate text, 2 20+ minute phone calls. This was with dk28
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jojo08 said:
I'm in the group with the poor battery life after DK28, I will definitely give this a shot tomorrow morning after I charge up tonight, however, my issue seems to be with the display under battery use it shows to use most of my battery even with very little use of display, even with long phone calls with the display off it about equals the battery use of the phone call, hoping this will fix it for me
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Before you wipe your battery stats, charge to 100%. Unplug the phone, turn it off, plug back in and charge again until it says full. Then boot into recovery and wipe your battery stats.
For those that use their phone a lot, don't charge while you are playing on your phone. It makes your battery hotter and can decrease capacity. Don't keep trying to turn your phone back on after it is dead, either. That can damage capacity and possibly make the battery unchargeable.

Insane Battery Life

I'm hitting 41 hours and still have 19% battery life. I noticed it took around 10 full charges before my phone started to get this great battery life. I've been using it as normal and even listened to howard stern for a couple of hours yesterday. Talked on the phone a bunch of times around 30 texts and even used my 4g for a few minutes. I've never had an andorid phone last this long for me even when I had my Optimus S which I thought was awesome.
Anyone else getting this awesome battery life? I'll post screen shots when its about dead as I dont want to plug the phone into usb to get the pics.
Charging twice a day here. Its worse than my hero.
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Zardos66 said:
Charging twice a day here. Its worse than my hero.
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I would investigate as that shouldnt be. My shift lasts almost 2.5x my hero. I bet if I had your phone in front of my I could find out whats killing it soo fast.
Is your phone getting hot? I would do a full system wipe and start over from scratch and see if it doesnt get better after you try the things I've listed below. Note, I didnt have this great of battery life until 6 days after I purchased the phone and charged and discharged numerous times. The first few days the battery life was not good at all.
A little list of things to do, check and or disable;
1. Use spare parts and find out whats killing your battery ie partial wake usage, cpu etc.
2. Turn your window animations from all to only some animations
3. Turn off automatic display and keep it around 20-30%
4. I have auto sync off on all my appz (E-mail, Gmail, Facebook etc.). I update my E-mail and such manually.
5. Turn off data when not using it. I find data accounts for around 15-25% of juice used and thats just when on idle.
6. Only use widgets on the homescreen if you really have to (Running widgets use a lot of power over time)
7. Use Android Hackers tool from the market and it will break down how long your cpu was in a certain state. ie my cpu spent 65% at 245mhz and 28% at 806mhz.
8. Keep off 4G, Bluetooth, wirless networks for location and GPS if not using it (GPS uses less power than wireless networks and is more accurate anyway) I assigned Quick Settings to open when I hold down the search button. That makes it easy to enable/disable any of these setting within seconds.
9. Turn off google talk and make sure it doesnt sign in automatically (most people dont realise this)
10. Turn screen timeout to 15 or 30 seconds (if longer your phone can keep the display on accidentally while in your pocket if a button is pressed, wasting power)
11. Dont use a task killer unless its to kill an app you know drains your battery and therefore must be closed to save juice
12. Check your apps. Some apps keep using cpu etc because they were not programed correctly. (some appz I've found to drain my battery are; Yahoo Mail, Craigslist, AndTorrent and the market if a download is hung up. There are a few others I cant remember off the top of my head) If your phone is getting hot for no apparent reason this may be the cause.
13. Calibrate your battery by bump charging (charge your phone till its full while on, turn it off and charge till its full again. Then bump charge it around 5-7 times) Wipe battery stats if applicable. If you have a car charger, plug your phone in on the way to work to account for the little bit of drain that occurs once the phone is fully charged yet still on the charger.
Remember you can get china made batteries for very cheap. I paid $12 for 2 batteries and a wall charger off ebay. This phone uses the same batteries as the Hero and Evo by the way.
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I would investigate as that shouldnt be. My shift lasts almost 2.5x my hero. I bet if I had your phone in front of my I could find out whats killing it soo fast.
I noticed Yahoo mail and Craigs list apps I downloaded from the market have a memory/cpu leak that kills your phone super fast.
Is your phone getting hot? I would do a full system wipe and start over from scratch and see if it doesnt get better. Note to that I didnt have this great of battery life until 6 days after I purchased the phone. The first few days the battery life was not good at all.
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yahoo mail DESTROYED my battery life on my hero so i havent used it in forever...sad to see it still had that problem....also I stopped using any battery widgets that show the exact percentage (as these are usually wrong anyway) and went back to using stock browser (Miren browser, while I really liked it, was eating my...)....i now check my battery through the settings....I was having varying battery life but after recalibrating by letting it die all the way then charging it up full i most recently got like 30 hours off the charger with moderate use and got down to 10%....coulda probably squeezed out a few more hours too if i left it idle....not too bad
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yahoo mail DESTROYED my battery life on my hero so i havent used it in forever...sad to see it still had that problem....also I stopped using any battery widgets that show the exact percentage (as these are usually wrong anyway) and went back to using stock browser (Miren browser, while I really liked it, was eating my...)....i now check my battery through the settings....I was having varying battery life but after recalibrating by letting it die all the way then charging it up full i most recently got like 30 hours off the charger with moderate use and got down to 10%....coulda probably squeezed out a few more hours too if i left it idle....not too bad
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I find that Battery indicator doesnt draw much power if any as I've always used it and never had a problem. The maker of the app states it uses no extra power. I love the circular battery indicator version found in the market. Its not a widget, it stays in the upper left corner of your notification bar. You should give it a try.
Phone doesn't get hot. I've started from scratch twice, I've ##DATA# reset. I had terrible service and data speeds before I did that and it did a number on my battery. Now it'd fine, but it just drains while doing nothing.
I never use task killers or auto sync, I live with spare parts and and monitor it, no real partial wake usage to speak of. I know how to save battery, my hero get 20+ hours with use and auto-sync on.
I'm thinking my battery might be bad. Feels like your talking down to me too, captain.
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I haven't had mine a week yet, but atm I'm not getting half the battery life I did outta my Hero running AOSP's Gingerbread alpha.
I'm blaming the crap bloat that's part of the stock ROM.
With the display set to 15-20% I've got the display accounting for 69% of the battery usage. :/
Turning off sync is not an option and I feel defeats the purpose of a smart phone. Additionally, I fail to see the point in paying for 4G and not using it. (I do turn it off if I'm out of area for it or don't expect to be using much data.)
So thus far I'm disappointed in the battery life... but still think it'll improve vastly once rooted and cleaned up.
EDIT: Just did a test running Angry Birds for about 10 minutes... maybe 15. It ate up 9% of the battery in that time. Added another 1% to the display usage.
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Phone doesn't get hot. I've started from scratch twice, I've ##DATA# reset. I had terrible service and data speeds before I did that and it did a number on my battery. Now it'd fine, but it just drains while doing nothing.
I never use task killers or auto sync, I live with spare parts and and monitor it, no real partial wake usage to speak of. I know how to save battery, my hero get 20+ hours with use and auto-sync on.
I'm thinking my battery might be bad. Feels like your talking down to me too, captain.
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I'm just trying to give advice so that other people understand what to do to get the most out of the battery. This wasnt meant to be just directed to you. Sorry for trying to help you out, Captain.
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... (Miren browser, while I really liked it, was eating my...)...
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Miren's latest update last week is supposed to have "reduced battery usage". I've had no problems. Maybe time to come back to the Light..?
I was able to hit the 48 hour mark with light use.
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I was able to hit the 48 hour mark with light use.
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hey that's really impressive. I thought my 20 hours battery life was pretty good...kudos to you.
def getting better bat supply. especially from my hero which only lasted about 6-8 hours, just got my shift yesterday afternoon. from a full charge: Constant texting, facebook, Zenonia 2 (Downloaded wifi), Snes emu + 11 roms (3G), and customizing it to my hearts content. almost 12 hrs later had 20% until i plugged it up at work.
so far this thing is a golden brick to me
Just out of curiosity, how do you calibrate the battery? Just in case my battery life doesn't match the reports (I know my luck )
tatonka_hero said:
Just out of curiosity, how do you calibrate the battery? Just in case my battery life doesn't match the reports (I know my luck )
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Its under # 13 on my 3rd post.
getting great battery life isn't that surprising given you've got a 1500mah battery much like the evo and epic however 48 hours is rather impressive.
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Working on calibrating my wifes battery and damn this thing is hard to kill. Even with with everything running for 5 hours its still over 20% finally decided to bring out the big guns. Turned on navigation and the flashlight. I'll post when I see the battery life after calibration.
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Edit: Phone plugged in at 7:53pm PST. Now to see how long it takes to charge.
Edit #2: Phone finally fully charged almost an hour after my evo finished its 0 to 100 at 12:19am
Edit #3: Holy F***. This phone takes forever to die and to die. Finally on the second off charge. I wouldn't still be doing this but for the fact that its saturday.

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