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Android 2.1 for the Eris

I heard some rumors flying around of a 22nd release date. Maybe this thread can organize all of that.

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Yeah...we have all heard rumors and what not.....
Not sure there is anything we can organize or do...
Just wait until the 22nd and hope

My source at Verizon told me that via an internal email 2.0 is coming to the Eris at the end of January. They have not set a date for the release yet, but when they do, I will post an update for everyone.

acidbath5546 said:
Yeah...we have all heard rumors and what not.....
Not sure there is anything we can organize or do...
Just wait until the 22nd and hope
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Well I guess we just keep the thread open and see what happens.

I was given the Jan. 22nd date also from a Verizon Tech when I was having trouble authenticating my back in the beginning of December. She didn't say what the update would be though.

JTF2007 said:
I was given the Jan. 22nd date also from a Verizon Tech when I was having trouble authenticating my back in the beginning of December. She didn't say what the update would be though.
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The bugfix one. There is one scheduled for the 22nd, and it won't be 2.0/2.1.

ataranine said:
The bugfix one. There is one scheduled for the 22nd, and it won't be 2.0/2.1.
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Didn't they just do a bugfix a few days ago?

CPCookieMan said:
Didn't they just do a bugfix a few days ago?
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That was issued to fix one bug. The one where your phone locks up on you at the lockscreen and you have to pull the battery.
There's still one coming on the 22nd that fixes a lot of other bugs. It won't be 2.1.

ataranine said:
That was issued to fix one bug. The one where your phone locks up on you at the lockscreen and you have to pull the battery.
There's still one coming on the 22nd that fixes a lot of other bugs. It won't be 2.1.
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*sigh* I reject your reality and substitute my own.

CPCookieMan said:
*sigh* I reject your reality and substitute my own.
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Whatever you say.

ataranine said:
Whatever you say.
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It was a joke. You don't watch Mythbusters, obviously.

CPCookieMan said:
It was a joke. You don't watch Mythbusters, obviously.
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I haven't seen that show in a while. I love it though.

rooting 2.1 with sense on eris?
i hope i'm not the only one to think of this but:
if firmware 2.1 does come out on the 22nd of january, what does this mean to all the work done rooting firmware 1.5? because i'm pretty sure the problems with rooting the eris is not necessarily with fw1.5 but the sense UI thats layered on top of 1.5
even if 2.1 does come to the eris, it'll probably be a watered down version of fw2.1 because the hardware on the eris is not really optimized for 2.1 and it'll probably have a newer tweaked sense UI built upon the code from 1.5
i hope this is not a draw back but it's something to think about

It depends on the kind of attack we end up using. If we end up attacking the linux kernel directly, I doubt there will be time to plug the holes at this point. The bootloader / updater stuff, though, might be more risky, and I've been wondering about this for a while now. Guess we just have to wait and see which attacks come to fruition.

no kernel source code
i see what you're saying but htc hasn't released the source code for the kernel. i think thats what the senior members of this forum (acidbath5546, ataranine, rigmrt, etc.) are trying to get from htc through those emails. so the method of "attack" must be something else. unless of course those Mod edit: Employees at htc decide to allow us to use our devices the way we want
i'd love to contribute but i'm soo dame busy watching hulu, they've got some great stuff over there

Really, guy?
Either way, the way we're currently attacking it is like this: we know that a vulnerability was discovered on a certain date, and patched on a date after that. Fortunately, both of these dates are well after the date that the current version shipped, meaning that the target kernel must be vulnerable. Obviously this security flaw has been patched, and will do us no good in the future, but at least it's a start in our workflow.

yep
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i see what you're saying but htc hasn't released the source code for the kernel. i think thats what the senior members of this forum (acidbath5546, ataranine, rigmrt, etc.) are trying to get from htc through those emails. so the method of "attack" must be something else. unless of course those Mod edit: Employees at htc decide to allow us to use our devices the way we want
i'd love to contribute but i'm soo dame busy watching hulu, they've got some great stuff over there
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We have been trying...and Htc is sorta hearing us...
I just got word from someone at Engadget Mobile that Htc has heard us and seen the threads and emails..
And like they did on the Hero, they will release kernel code...its just a big machine over there...so we do owe them a bit of patience..
But it is good to know they heard..
Amazing what we can do as a community!
I will update as I hear more

moqadasi said:
i see what you're saying but htc hasn't released the source code for the kernel. i think thats what the senior members of this forum (acidbath5546, ataranine, rigmrt, etc.) are trying to get from htc through those emails. so the method of "attack" must be something else. unless of course those Mod edit: Employees at htc decide to allow us to use our devices the way we want
i'd love to contribute but i'm soo dame busy watching hulu, they've got some great stuff over there
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Watch the choice of words you use towards other people of any race/color/creed/nationality
If that is impossible for you, we can help you

Mikey1022 said:
Watch the choice of words you use towards other people of any race/color/creed/nationality
If that is impossible for you, we can help you
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Wow.. epic.

New HTC email...
"bigdroid" over at http://androidforums.com/members/bigdroid.html
just got this email from htc.
The update is scheduled for the first quarter of this year. Now while I can not definitively say any dates, I would expect it sometime end of January to mid February. Hopefully, this helps you.
Regards,
HTC Support

Yet another Sprint 2.1 Rumor

Just saw this pop up on my news reader figured I would share. Lets hope it is true
http://www.androidspin.com/2010/04/01/htc-hero-android-2-1-release-from-sprint-updated/

zippy-man said:
Just saw this pop up on my news reader figured I would share. Lets hope it is true
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Yeah... I saw that. Little skeptical though because once you trace the source back to handhelditems they say someone got that info from a webchat with Sprint. We all know to think twice about those! lol It does seem to line up with that April 9th update that's been floating around though. Who knows...

Hopefully this is true and not another april fools prank. It was about a week-week and a half ago they rumored it would release in the coming weeks. Fingers crossed.................

With all the sprint leaks we have been getting I think it might be getting close.
But who knows

I already have it thanks damage

good, it's about time, tired of watching people get LEAKS and then not sharing the source...

obelisk79 said:
good, it's about time, tired of watching people get LEAKS and then not sharing the source...
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don't worry, Sprint will just repackage one of the XDA roms as their own and use it as the official update

ive said it once ill say it again the april 9th update is a maintenance release to fix mms issues not 2.1

sprint hasnt told us anything beyond that

any new news on an "official" release date? im hearing either the 9th or 26th of this month? i don't get why sprint is soo tight lipped about this?
also when is the nexus & evo launching on sprint?

no ONE cares anymore
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^^^^^^^^^^
says who ?

rank78 said:
don't worry, Sprint will just repackage one of the XDA roms as their own and use it as the official update
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Once every single bug has been worked out of DamageControl, Sprint will pull it off XDA and release it.

Sporkman said:
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says who ?
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+1 i care very much tbh. id also like to know why they have not given us a firm release date for the nexus & evo.

mrinehart93 said:
Once every single bug has been worked out of DamageControl, Sprint will pull it off XDA and release it.
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with alot of tweaking to do after the initial install, yes your right.
i hope when the final comes out and we get custom roms, we won't have to apply any fixes. this is one reason im back to 1.5 for now. i have faith in the devs here, they do great work!

Why do we keep creating threads on this issue. It is a waste of space. It will come when Sprint is ready to release it. They have never given an exact date. People get so pissed because they haven't sent an update. Well guess what. When you bought your phone it had 1.5. They are not required to update it to 2.1. Either use a custom ROM or shut up and wait until it comes out.Then when it comes on don't get on here complaining about how crappy the release is.
I have Fresh 2.0d and it is working very well.
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Shut up and wait
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Developing:WarpedMetal (T minus 2 weeks)

Just got out of a sprint chat. this is what they're saying

honestly no thread can "waste space" as well we have plenty of it. I wasn't complaining nor *****ing about it. I am more happy with the legend based roms then the leaked Sprint roms but when the official Rom hits it will help with more development to fix issues and get faster roms out there. honestly if you don't like these threads the easy thing to do is stay out of them. no one is forcing anyone to read the forum or a certain posts. forums are for talking that is there main and only reason for existing.
damn I hate trolls.
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Wow, that's interesting, I dont know whether to believe it or believe the support guy/gal was confused by the question and didnt know how to answer, so he/she just gave something generic

chirag2f4u said:
Wow, that's interesting, I dont know whether to believe it or believe the support guy/gal was confused by the question and didnt know how to answer, so he/she just gave something generic
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Does Sprint use any automated responses on the chat support? I know there's quite a few companies that do, the program just selects a basic response to generic questions about that subject, and it seems like the responses that are given by these reports are way too "computery" to be coming from a human. So I'm guessing that the system Sprint's chat support uses has a list of responses pop up based on key words in the client's question.
Probably way off base, but it'd almost make sense based on how similar the responses are in all these chat transcripts.

Hope!

Here are a few quotes from good ol birdman-
KeithBlak Keith Black
@_mrbirdman_ Mr. Sir, everyone has been real quiet about the dX bootloader, and it seems some are giving up. Is there still hope?
_mrbirdman_ Stephen Bird
@KeithBlak There is hope....just you wait and see
_mrbirdman_ Stephen Bird
Im not quitting work on the Dx, I'm just not releasing anything for it until a certain thing gets released.
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Many of you were already aware that birdman was up to something interesting. I am posting this to reinforce hope in our small Droid X Community. Good things are just over the horizon.

I just want 2.1 back. I should have read further before stupidly, and blindly, just upgrading to the OTA because I could. I really hope this is what is being worked on.

he is waiting for the 2.2 sbf to modify the bootloader.. but with motorola keeping it close to chest, its hard to get a hold of.. SOMEONE SEND IT TO HIM!!

He tweeted a lone tweet last night, "certain thing". Sounds like he may have obtained the Samuel Bravo Foxtrot! Let's hope for some news soon.

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He tweeted a lone tweet last night, "certain thing". Sounds like he may have obtained the Samuel Bravo Foxtrot! Let's hope for some news soon.
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i think we need to refer to it as such for now on..
I WANT THE NEW "Sierra Bravo Foxtrot"!!

thepolishguy said:
He tweeted a lone tweet last night, "certain thing". Sounds like he may have obtained the Samuel Bravo Foxtrot! Let's hope for some news soon.
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That would be awesome.

What is it that everyone is looking for?? I like the OTA and what I can do with it.
Yeah.. I can't mess with the kernel or bootloader... but I rarely do that anyway. What I do on a normal basis.. can already be done.

MrDanger said:
What is it that everyone is looking for?? I like the OTA and what I can do with it.
Yeah.. I can't mess with the kernel or bootloader... but I rarely do that anyway. What I do on a normal basis.. can already be done.
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Everyone is looking for phone customization. What may be fine for you may not be even close to enough for others.

Does anyone know the IRC channel birdman uses? I would love to offer assistance in the cracking of the bootloader in any way I can...

InfamousDX said:
Everyone is looking for phone customization. What may be fine for you may not be even close to enough for others.
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This I understand... I was asking what more phone customization was ppl looking for?

dekend said:
i think we need to refer to it as such for now on..
I WANT THE NEW "Sierra Bravo Foxtrot"!!
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For the life of me I could not remember "Sierra" - so I went with "Samuel". Sierra Bravo Foxtrot - much better.
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What more customizations could people want?
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How about the removal of blur? Or the simple ability to flash a vanilla Android 2.2 the way Google designed it?
Not a biggie foe me- but there is a lot more people could want.

thepolishguy said:
How about the removal of blur? Or the simple ability to flash a vanilla Android 2.2 the way Google designed it?
Not a biggie foe me- but there is a lot more people could want.
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Eh, his point is you can already do that, and in his defense, he is pretty much right. However, we cannot modify the kernel, and thus cannot have a true Rom, this is something I would like to be able to do.

Once the bootloader is unlocked/bypassed we will then be able to have true built from source Rom's/Kernels and unlock the true potential of the DX. Cyanogen has said he will support the Droid X/2 once its unlocked, CCR is already building an AOSP Rom but with the Moto kernel for obvious reasons so there is hope on the horizon. A leak of the "Sierra Bravo Foxtrot" will be found, then the fun begins for everyone as we will all have a way back to safety.

CaptainTaco said:
Eh, his point is you can already do that, and in his defense, he is pretty much right. However, we cannot modify the kernel, and thus cannot have a true Rom, this is something I would like to be able to do.
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Once the bootloader is unlocked/bypassed we will then be able to have true built from source Rom's/Kernels and unlock the true potential of the DX. Cyanogen has said he will support the Droid X/2 once its unlocked, CCR is already building an AOSP Rom but with the Moto kernel for obvious reasons so there is hope on the horizon. A leak of the "Sierra Bravo Foxtrot" will be found, then the fun begins for everyone as we will all have a way back to safety.
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That's what I was looking for.
So to sum it up:
We can already customize the Droid X like any other android phone on the market (remove bloatware, theme frameworks, play with root priveleges, etc)... but some ppl are wanting more.
The ppl that are wanting more... are wanting to get to the brains (kernel & bootloader) so they can build a ROM from scratch, get some CM lovin, TRUE overclocking, BF scheduling, UV'ing, TRUE recovery, etc.
I understand that... and always understood it lol. I just always wondered why I saw so many posts asking for things that can already be done.. and have been.

Not to sound ignorant, but why is the 2.2 SBF so hard to come by?? Dosent every Verizon store in the Nation have the 2.2 SBF file in there tech support department? You think it would of been leaked by now considering the people guarding the worlds secrets are run of the mill, 12 dollers an hour verizon workers in every store you go in

Joe92T said:
Not to sound ignorant, but why is the 2.2 SBF so hard to come by?? Dosent every Verizon store in the Nation have the 2.2 SBF file in there tech support department? You think it would of been leaked by now considering the people guarding the worlds secrets are run of the mill, 12 dollers an hour verizon workers in every store you go in
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A. most of us work for Flextronics not VZW. B. make a lot more than 12 dollars per hour. C. The SBF is not on any of our PSTs, if it was you would have it.

Joe92T said:
Not to sound ignorant, but why is the 2.2 SBF so hard to come by?? Dosent every Verizon store in the Nation have the 2.2 SBF file in there tech support department? You think it would of been leaked by now considering the people guarding the worlds secrets are run of the mill, 12 dollers an hour verizon workers in every store you go in
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Motorola has a team searching the intertubes (internet) for any mention of a leaked Sierra Bravo Foxtrot and have had their lawyers send them nice cease emails to both the poster and the fourm owners warning them to remove the links and delete any uploaded software.. I have had 1 thread deleted from here just because i asked for it..
hope that explains it.
edit: I didnt mention this before.. but it was already leaked twice.. and taken down twice.

dekend said:
Motorola has a team searching the intertubes (internet) for any mention of a leaked Sierra Bravo Foxtrot and have had their lawyers send them nice cease emails to both the poster and the fourm owners warning them to remove the links and delete any uploaded software.. I have had 1 thread deleted from here just because i asked for it..
hope that explains it.
edit: I didnt mention this before.. but it was already leaked twice.. and taken down twice.
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You'd think it would be on rapidshare or something by now if that was the case. I find it really hard to believe that 2.2 sbf has been leaked at all.

Do a google search for "droid x 2.2 sbf" and look at your first couple hits.. you will see that the moderators have removed the posts because of threats they received from motorola.
as for improving our chances of finding it we need the actual file name..
Get the file name and we have just up'd our chances by 10x.

Gimpeh said:
You'd think it would be on rapidshare or something by now if that was the case. I find it really hard to believe that 2.2 sbf has been leaked at all.
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The SEMI-2.2 SBF is leaked out.. and still available. I never did see a FULL 2.2 SBF.

Aosp gb update now

@Jqueru just tweeted update to AOSP is underway. Confirmed on android-build.

Just did a checkin, and checked, nothing and im in GB.
Too many people get the kicks outta saying random things like this on twitter.

No, this time it's real:
http://groups.google.com/group/android-building/browse_thread/thread/91172a81604c8a0
http://twitter.com/jbqueru/status/15825129372131328

mattinglis said:
Just did a checkin, and checked, nothing and im in GB.
Too many people get the kicks outta saying random things like this on twitter.
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I think you've completely misunderstood what AOSP and OTA are. AOSP is basically the source code which ROM cookers (Paul O' Brien, Cyanogen etc) use to build their own ROMs. OTA is an update from, in our case Google, which updates a stock ROM to Gingerbread. Also the person who said this is in charge of the Android AOSP project so he's hardly some random person

mattinglis said:
Just did a checkin, and checked, nothing and im in GB.
Too many people get the kicks outta saying random things like this on twitter.
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aosp isnt ota. checkin is useless for aosp.

mattinglis said:
Just did a checkin, and checked, nothing and im in GB.
Too many people get the kicks outta saying random things like this on twitter.
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No, too many people don't understand what they're reading. Building GB in AOSP is the first step. That has to happen before any kind of OTA is even built, much less tested and pushed out to devices. So doing your checkin is rather pointless, because they're at step 2 or 3, and you're at about 8 or 9. And the Tweet is from an official, confirmed Google staffer.
So again, too many don't understand what they read and want to sound like they're somebody.

My bad, i do know what im doing, i just didnt read the original post properly.
thought it was another person claiming to have recieved the OTA.

mattinglis said:
My bad, i do know what im doing, i just didnt read the original post properly.
thought it was another person claiming to have recieved the OTA.
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its ok. lots of folks here are qucik to tell others off, but im used to gherjing my sdfse. just the other day i werufs the ,smbfd but not before i did a bit of sdler to my sdjgfe3. with that being said, lets all sfjher our sdgyer from the sd3fn8 servers (damn blackberries)!

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No, too many people don't understand what they're reading. Building GB in AOSP is the first step. That has to happen before any kind of OTA is even built, much less tested and pushed out to devices. So doing your checkin is rather pointless, because they're at step 2 or 3, and you're at about 8 or 9. And the Tweet is from an official, confirmed Google staffer.
So again, too many don't understand what they read and want to sound like they're somebody.
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what? google can send out an Over-The-Air update for gingerbread whenever they please. they already have the source code so why would they have to release the source to the public before the compiled rom?

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Wouldn't that be cool? Check out the latest code on your phone, compiles, installs..

greenlime812 said:
what? google can send out an Over-The-Air update for gingerbread whenever they please. they already have the source code so why would they have to release the source to the public before the compiled rom?
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Becase that's the route they've chosen to go this time. Do they have to? No. They didn't with Froyo. But with GB they're doing AOSP first.
My guess is they've got a GB device already, and don't need early OTA releases to build hype.
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Does this mean that we will have a working rom for Nexus One soon?

macsim said:
Does this mean that we will have a working rom for Nexus One soon?
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Yes and no, lol. Google will push an OTA out to N1 devices at some point. We all know that. It could start today, it could start next week. No one really knows.
Now that the source is in AOSP, ROM developers here (and elsewhere, I suppose) will begin using the source to compile custom ROMs. You may start to see those before an OTA, you may see an OTA first.
As for what works? LOL, hopefully they all do, and hopefully they'll be bug-minimalized. (Is there such a thing as bug-free??)

It means you can build your own stock ROM
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It means you can build your own stock ROM
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Question about this:
Do you not need at least a leaked ROM to extract the necessary "proprietary files" before building? Sorry if this is a noob question. Just curious.

It means they not going to waste their time with the nexus one and let us build our own rom. That mean OTA for nexus user, no time soon. We'll see a custom rom first before we see a OTA. Nexus S is their baby now not Nexus one.

Imho even a vanilla AOSP rom would be great waiting for official OTA...

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Question about this:
Do you not need at least a leaked ROM to extract the necessary "proprietary files" before building? Sorry if this is a noob question. Just curious.
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No, I don't think the proprietaries are platform-dependant

stonec11 said:
It means they not going to waste their time with the nexus one and let us build our own rom. That mean OTA for nexus user, no time soon. We'll see a custom rom first before we see a OTA. Nexus S is their baby now not Nexus one.
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+1
cheers

Hell Yeah!

Axon 7 nougat question.

I know is not allowed by ZTE but I'd appreciate if someone with the beta pm me some pics of the update need to see for my self what's in it lol

The official release is dropping by the end of the month. Can't you wait?

gumbyx84 said:
The official release is dropping by the end of the month. Can't you wait?
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I can wait of course but that doesn't mean I can't ask to see it. If someone is feeling like showing it good. If not then not other option but to wait. ✌

theres an actual chinese version of nougat beta but just the screenshots its around here in the forums not sure where but might change based on regions you never know its best to wait

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theres an actual chinese version of nougat beta but just the screenshots its around here in the forums not sure where but might change based on regions you never know its best to wait
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Yeah I saw those but didn't know how legit it was. And it was almost stock Android like many people asked for. But yeah I guess we'll see when released

Evri said:
Yeah I saw those but didn't know how legit it was. And it was almost stock Android like many people asked for. But yeah I guess we'll see when released
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yes and im also hopeful that they will keep the dark mode for our AMOLED screens or even add a dark theme in zte themes improve camera a little more and also daydream

Those in the beta program had to sign a non-disclosure agreement with ZTE. So close your eyes and imagine Nougat. That's what it looks like.

Can a moderator please close this thread? According to the NDA that somehow got posted on here, people that are a part of the beta program are not even allowed to tell people they are a part of the beta program. Fishing like this just seems to get people wound up over nothing.

jawz101 said:
Those in the beta program had to sign a non-disclosure agreement with ZTE. So close your eyes and imagine Nougat. That's what it looks like.
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try to imagine it like oxygenOS or like the custom ROMs thatd be sooo cool

Yes is weird they had to make a NDA in that case a stock android appearance would not hurt anyone

tabletalker7 said:
Can a moderator please close this thread? According to the NDA that somehow got posted on here, people that are a part of the beta program are not even allowed to tell people they are a part of the beta program. Fishing like this just seems to get people wound up over nothing.
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why would they close the thread? there is nothing illegal in here so i'd ask you to take your hate somewhere else shu shu

nobodys talking about classified stuff about nougat here we're just speculating we're going off topic now

If I was ZTE I would've done a completely public beta or leaked it myself. Hype is free marketing and for a no-carrier phone it's the only way to get people to buy.

Don't worry my good sir, the release is closer than you think.
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Can't wait for it ?

Hurrah for the imagination then at least I know I am not the only one on the hype train hopefully ZTE won't disappoint us.